Officer Tatum Defends Charlie Kirk's Israel Stance Against Megyn Kelly's Mischaracterization of His Final Beliefs

[00:00] Megan Kelly, why are you doing this?

[00:06] >> Charlie was all for really robust

[00:09] discussions of very tough issues,

[00:11] including Israel and beyond. It's just

[00:14] he wouldn't necessarily lead them

[00:16] because he did have donors and he also

[00:18] was very close with the administration.

[00:20] Now, I got more evidence that I want to

[00:21] share with you real quick because for

[00:24] them to insinuate that Charlie was like

[00:26] afraid of his donors to get on stage and

[00:29] criticize Israel. [music]

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[00:42] get into this. Megan Kelly, come on in.

[00:46] I like Megan Kelly. I have always liked

[00:49] Megan Kelly. Not always. When she was

[00:51] working on Fox, I I couldn't stand it.

[00:52] When she was doing that that debate with

[00:54] Donald Trump, I I I wanted to I wanted

[00:56] her to go away. But when when she left

[00:58] the mainstream, I love her podcast. I

[01:01] listen to it all the time. I think she

[01:02] have a lot of insightful things to say.

[01:04] But for whatever reason, Megan Kelly is

[01:06] making a decision to side

[01:10] on foolery on some of these topics. I

[01:12] mean, absolutely foolery. I don't know

[01:15] why these people have a vested interest

[01:16] in recreating Charlie Kirk's belief

[01:18] systems. They like they obsessed with

[01:21] trying to He can't speak for himself.

[01:23] Can y'all let his wife talk for him? If

[01:27] Erica wanted the world to know that

[01:29] Charlie was abandoned in Israel or

[01:31] something, I think his wife has the

[01:33] right to say it and prove it. You

[01:35] everybody else that's talking is

[01:37] speculating.

[01:39] And if if Erica is not speculating, why

[01:41] are y'all speculating? And it's not that

[01:43] he changed his beliefs on anything other

[01:46] than Israel. Why are y'all so obsessed

[01:49] with Israel? People like me wouldn't

[01:50] even be talking about Israel if it

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[03:07] Protect your privacy today. So, Megan

[03:10] Kelly has decided on this topic to take

[03:14] the side of the people that have

[03:16] momentum right now.

[03:19] She will not criticize Tucker Carlson

[03:22] for the asinine things that he's done.

[03:26] She should be all over him with that

[03:29] stupid interview and all the other

[03:31] interviews that he's done.

[03:34] You can like a person and call him out.

[03:36] I like Megan Kelly, but I got to I got

[03:37] to say something about this

[03:40] and siding when she refused to say

[03:42] anything about others.

[03:44] Refuse to It's There's a difference

[03:46] between

[03:48] not want to name people and call them

[03:50] out because really it's not about the

[03:52] person, it's about what they're doing.

[03:54] It's a difference between not want to

[03:55] name a person but calling out the

[03:56] garbage that you see versus you don't

[03:59] want to name them and you don't want to

[04:00] call out the garbage. Y'all remember

[04:02] when that when Netanyahu uh that letter

[04:05] that Charlie wrote to Netanyahu came out

[04:07] and people had been lying about the

[04:09] context of it. Megan Kelly didn't say

[04:12] nothing about that. I didn't see on her

[04:14] show. She said nothing about it.

[04:17] That's interesting. No, no, no. It's not

[04:18] just interesting. People completely lied

[04:20] about the whole thing. All right, let's

[04:22] get to the Megan Kelly show. So, Megan

[04:23] Kelly goes on to insinuate, in my

[04:27] personal opinion, of this new conversion

[04:29] story of Charlie Kirk and how he was

[04:32] backstage

[04:34] as if he was telling Tucker Carlson, "Go

[04:36] for it, bro. Bash Israel in front of

[04:39] this whole audience."

[04:42] I'mma let it play. Let her statement

[04:44] come out. And then we gonna talk about

[04:45] Tucker too on this a little bit because

[04:48] either Tucker lied

[04:50] or he's talking about a whole different

[04:52] conversation that him and Charlie had.

[04:54] Let's start with the bigger Kelly clip.

[04:55] Let's roll the first clip.

[04:57] >> Charlie, he was important. He was hugely

[04:59] important to the conservative movement,

[05:01] but he didn't do it by discouraging

[05:04] debate or trying to tell one faction

[05:07] they couldn't or shouldn't say something

[05:09] or not saber rattling on something that

[05:11] was like a sacred cow of the

[05:13] administrations. He [snorts] didn't

[05:15] always do it, but he wanted those

[05:18] discussions to happen. I don't think

[05:20] Charlie would be upset about the debate

[05:23] that's generally happening between, say,

[05:25] Tucker and Ben Shapiro right now in

[05:27] Israel. He would not like how nasty it's

[05:29] getting. You know, he definitely would

[05:31] not support calls to have Tucker, you

[05:33] know, people to stop watching Tucker.

[05:36] Ben's not asking for him to be

[05:37] deplatformed, but clearly he wants him

[05:39] cut out of polite conservative movement

[05:42] circles. He would not be in favor of

[05:45] that. He knew what Tucker was saying,

[05:48] including about Israel, and continued to

[05:50] invite him to turning point events. And

[05:52] so, I just wanted to tell this story

[05:54] because I think people are

[05:56] misunderstanding like I'll let her

[05:58] finish it. Give me 20 seconds. She She

[06:02] conveniently left out Nick Fuentes. Why,

[06:05] Megan? Why? Now, I'm not telling you how

[06:07] you run your show, but why did you leave

[06:09] out Nick Fuentes? You say uh Charlie was

[06:12] open for No, he wasn't. He wasn't always

[06:15] open for anybody to have a conversation

[06:17] with anybody. Charlie didn't debate just

[06:19] anybody. And he did not debate Nick

[06:20] Fees. And he said Nick Fuentes was

[06:22] vermin that he refused to debate Nick

[06:24] Fuentes. said it to I I heard him say

[06:27] it. He said it on the stage in front of

[06:30] the world and he never debated Nick

[06:32] Fuentes. Nick Fentes went on for years

[06:34] complaining that Charlie wouldn't debate

[06:36] him. He got mad at Desh Douza for

[06:40] debating Nick Fuentes. Megan, why are

[06:42] you saying this? I don't get it. Finish

[06:45] the clip.

[06:45] >> Charlie was all for really robust

[06:48] discussions of very tough issues,

[06:50] including Israel and beyond. It's just

[06:54] he wouldn't necessarily lead them

[06:55] because he did have donors and he also

[06:57] was very close with the administration.

[07:01] >> Okay, let's go to the next clip.

[07:05] >> This is got criticized by the pro-Israel

[07:08] crowd for his remarks at the turning

[07:09] point event. Charlie also had threats

[07:13] from donors thereafter saying if you

[07:15] don't get rid of Tucker Carlson like

[07:17] we're done. and he had received some

[07:19] threats about that even before Tucker's

[07:21] appearance and and he said, "Well, I'm

[07:22] bringing him anyway."

[07:24] >> And that's all been documented. This is

[07:25] kind of water under the bridge, but

[07:27] >> which which I think that it's fair to

[07:29] say that I do not think that was the

[07:30] right decision for Charlie to do. But

[07:33] Charlie is loyal and he don't want to

[07:36] get bullied. So, if you're going to

[07:38] bully him, you're going to make him do

[07:39] something whether it's right or wrong. I

[07:40] I I don't think it makes sense in the

[07:43] context of Turning Point for Charlie to

[07:45] defy the the people who have supported

[07:47] to get this fool on the stage. Like if

[07:51] we're talking about somebody else maybe,

[07:53] but he on the stage being stupid.

[07:56] So I I just disagree with that. That

[07:59] don't mean I didn't like Charlie.

[08:00] Whatever. I love Charlie, but I disagree

[08:02] with that aspect of it. I think he

[08:04] should have just left Tucker out. But I

[08:05] do understand the loyalty aspect of it.

[08:08] I I understand that point. It's not I'm

[08:10] not missed on that point. Roll it.

[08:13] >> I'm showing it to you for a different

[08:14] purpose. Tucker on that broadcast said

[08:18] the following about his backstage

[08:20] conversations with Charlie before he

[08:22] went out there.

[08:23] >> Hold on. Now, I want y'all Hold on. Let

[08:26] it get to him real quick. Let it

[08:30] >> Now, I want y'all to pay attention to

[08:31] this. This is This is very important to

[08:33] acknowledge.

[08:35] Either Tucker completely lied about this

[08:39] or Megan Kelly and Tucker in this clip

[08:42] that she played is unrelated.

[08:46] One of the two happened because what

[08:49] Tucker is getting ready to describe is

[08:52] nothing near

[08:54] what Megan Kelly is showing in this

[08:56] clip. I don't know why she's trying to

[08:58] put this together. She could just talk

[09:00] about something else. Why you trying to

[09:01] put this together? It actually looks

[09:03] like Tucker brushed Charlie off.

[09:07] It looked like he was like, "All right,

[09:10] I'm talking to somebody else. What? All

[09:12] right, whatever. Go for it." Max. Max,

[09:15] wait till I show you. Wait till I show

[09:17] you guys. Wrote this clip

[09:18] >> at speech that I gave in July. We had a

[09:21] conversation about this backstage right

[09:24] before I went on.

[09:25] >> Right before you.

[09:26] >> And I was fulminating and getting all

[09:28] red in the face like I often do to my

[09:30] shame. And I was mad thinking about this

[09:32] and thinking about uh the effort by the

[09:35] neocons in the United States to draw us

[09:37] in to another forever war with Iran.

[09:41] It's not a defense of Iran, of course.

[09:42] It's merely an acknowledgement that

[09:43] we've done this before.

[09:45] >> Pause.

[09:46] >> But just admit you were wrong, you

[09:47] idiot.

[09:49] You and all these other fools

[09:51] fearmongered us in we're gonna get into

[09:53] Iran war. Trump said he wasn't going to

[09:55] do it.

[09:57] you fake MAGA people who who supported

[10:02] Trump and then you turn your back on

[10:03] Trump because it has something to do

[10:04] with Israel. It's they turned on him

[10:08] because of they weren't wor worried

[10:09] about the Iranian war. We they know we

[10:11] weren't going to start a war. He killed

[10:13] Solommani in cold blood and laughed at

[10:15] him and Iran didn't attack us. They know

[10:17] better. They don't want that smoke with

[10:19] us. And so when Donald Trump made the

[10:21] strategic uh decision to do what he did,

[10:24] we know we weren't going to get into

[10:26] war. I told y'all we weren't going to

[10:27] get into war. He know we weren't going

[10:29] to get into war. But they hate Jews in

[10:31] Israel so much that they are willing to

[10:33] turn on Trump over this that never

[10:34] happened. When is he going to apologize

[10:37] and say I was wrong. I was completely

[10:39] wrong. I had no evidence that it was

[10:41] going to happen. I just said it anyway

[10:43] to fearmonger because I hate Israel.

[10:46] Wrote a clip

[10:47] >> happened in Iraq which uh you know we we

[10:50] entered into uh at the behest of those

[10:53] same foreign policy strategists. Um, and

[10:56] >> Trump wasn't work. And so I was going on

[10:59] at some length backstage with Charlie.

[11:01] >> And I said, uh, you know, probably not

[11:04] going to talk about that. I'm not going

[11:05] to torture you. I know your donors hate

[11:07] this when I say that. Um, and also

[11:10] Epstein was in the news and it was clear

[11:13] to me that,

[11:14] >> you know, Epstein's probably not like a

[11:15] MSAD agent or something, but Epstein

[11:18] clearly had contact with Israeli

[11:19] intelligence and American intelligence

[11:21] and French intelligence, but the only

[11:22] one you're not allowed to talk about is

[11:24] Israeli intelligence. But it's it seemed

[11:26] true to me and I had done uh some work

[11:28] on that and I knew a bunch of people

[11:30] pretty close to that story. So So I

[11:32] thought that and I said that to Charlie

[11:33] and I said, "But I'm not going to say

[11:34] that because I don't want to make your

[11:35] donors mad. I know it's just going to be

[11:37] like an endless

[11:39] flurry of texts telling you to stop or

[11:41] you're going to lose a bunch of

[11:43] funding." And he looked at me, I'll

[11:45] never forget it, and said, "Go all the

[11:48] way. Do it. Go all the way." I said,

[11:50] "Man, I you know, a lot of things I can

[11:51] talk about. I don't need to talk about

[11:53] that." and he said, "Do it." So, I did

[11:56] it.

[11:57] >> Now, now

[12:00] maybe I'm but

[12:03] this is a whole He said, "I'm back there

[12:08] fuming.

[12:09] I'm back there turning red in the face.

[12:12] They had a full conversation." And then

[12:14] Charlie tells him, and he's never going

[12:16] to forget, "Go for it." Now, let's look

[12:20] at the clip that Megan Kelly is showing

[12:22] because

[12:24] this GoFool Max,

[12:27] I mean, they must be talking about two

[12:28] different conversations because this Go

[12:30] Fool Max backstage before he speaks is

[12:34] nothing like what we f to see in this

[12:36] video. Roll the clip.

[12:38] >> And here's the thing, Stu. I was

[12:40] recently going through some old pictures

[12:43] to find one of me and Charlie that I

[12:45] knew we took at that event. And not only

[12:49] did I find pictures of me and Charlie,

[12:52] >> but I found a video of me, Tucker, and

[12:57] Charlie

[12:59] speaking backstage right before Tucker

[13:02] went out.

[13:03] >> Tucker and I were talking. Charlie came

[13:06] over and interrupted for just a second.

[13:10] Him on this tape, which I've listened to

[13:11] many times. is very clear on my phone,

[13:13] less clear here probably as we play it,

[13:14] but he says to to Tucker, "Go Max." He

[13:18] interrupts the conversation because he

[13:20] has to say to Tucker something. And what

[13:22] was so important to him to tell Tucker

[13:24] was go Max. Here it is. Hold on. Hold

[13:28] on. Time out. Time. Hold on. Okay.

[13:30] [laughter]

[13:33] He said this is what Okay, look. Go Max.

[13:37] That mean that this happened before

[13:40] Tucker went on stage. Right. Tucker was

[13:43] saying he was in this deep theological

[13:45] conversation with Charlie Kirk before he

[13:47] went up on stage.

[13:49] Right here, Megan Kelly is saying that's

[13:51] her and she's talking to Tucker. So when

[13:54] is this Charlie Kirk conversation

[13:55] happening? I'm not saying it didn't, but

[13:57] this don't match what he was saying. Now

[14:00] watch Tucker cost in the way he treat

[14:02] Charlie Kirk. He's talking to Megan

[14:05] Kelly.

[14:06] Charlie comes up. I I want you to fir

[14:09] We're gonna play this video maybe twice,

[14:11] three times. First, I want you to listen

[14:15] to what Charlie said, the go Max thing,

[14:18] right? Cuz it's B. You can barely hear

[14:20] it, but that's what he says. And then I

[14:22] want you to watch it again a second

[14:23] time. And I want you to just watch

[14:25] Tucker's

[14:27] expression with Charlie.

[14:29] Roll the clip.

[14:36] Go back, bro.

[14:38] It's like he didn't even, you know, when

[14:40] you talk to somebody, you like like when

[14:42] when Charlie and I got to tell y'all

[14:44] this. Charlie said something to me

[14:46] backstage very similar to this.

[14:49] Let's play it again. Just watch Tucker's

[14:51] reaction. Can you make it full screen

[14:54] that that picture? Cuz I want y'all to

[14:56] see this. Watch Tucker's reaction to

[14:59] Charlie.

[15:01] Is he interested or not interested? The

[15:03] question wrote a clip.

[15:04] >> Here it is.

[15:13] >> It's quick. It's just happened.

[15:16] [clears throat]

[15:18] >> Whoa.

[15:19] He said go Max. You know what I saw in

[15:22] that video? Go back one more time. This

[15:25] is what I saw in that video. Full

[15:28] screen. They don't need to see my

[15:30] beautiful face. This is what I saw in

[15:31] that video. I saw that Charlie wanted to

[15:36] have it. Stop. Pause here. Charlie

[15:39] wanted it on record that he told Tucker

[15:42] to go Max. If you look at it, there's a

[15:46] person set up clearly

[15:49] this that's filming

[15:52] this interaction.

[15:54] When Charlie says what he says, he

[15:56] looked directly at the camera. And I I I

[15:58] don't know if it's because he's he

[16:00] orchestrated this because Charlie does

[16:01] stuff like this. Obviously, you want to

[16:02] go viral. They want to have these

[16:03] moments. This is what they do. There's

[16:04] nothing wrong with it. But I think

[16:06] that's what this was. This was a video

[16:09] of Charlie saying that him wanted on

[16:11] camera that he had a moment to tell

[16:14] Tucker to go Max, but unfortunately

[16:16] Tucker was not interested enough to give

[16:18] him the time of day and he just blew he

[16:21] kind of kind of like uh whatever. And

[16:22] went back to having a conversation with

[16:24] Megan Kelly. Roll the clip.

[16:32] It's like he kind of wanted the more of

[16:34] a conversation, didn't it? It's like

[16:37] It's like he said, "Go Max and he kind

[16:39] of stood there and was like,

[16:41] am I going to talk to Megan Kelly and

[16:42] all and then Tucker just turned didn't

[16:44] even pay attention to him to be honest.

[16:46] He kind of blew him off." Now, why do I

[16:49] bring this up? Because I think Megan

[16:50] Kelly is is insinuating something

[16:53] because she has to be on this side of

[16:55] it. She can't be on the Ben Shapiro side

[16:58] because that's not where the momentum is

[16:59] at. The momentum is not with me, Ben

[17:02] Shapiro, and other Zionists. We don't

[17:04] have momentum right now. People are

[17:06] hating us right now, but it the tide

[17:08] will turn, trust me. But the momentum is

[17:11] on that side. So, she needs to

[17:12] capitulate capitulate to that side.

[17:16] Charlie Kirk backstage said a similar

[17:18] thing to me. He came off stage. I'm

[17:21] getting I'm setting up cuz when when you

[17:23] come off stage, they set you up with the

[17:24] mic and they prep you. So when he come

[17:26] off, they let you go on. He comes off

[17:28] like he always do when I see him

[17:29] backstage and he says something to me.

[17:31] I'm like, "What's up, bro? Good to see

[17:32] you." Or whatever. And he go, "Are you

[17:34] going to talk about Israel?" I mean, not

[17:36] Israel. You going to talk about uh um

[17:37] Epstein? And I say, "Of course." You

[17:40] know, I don't care what they want me to

[17:42] talk. I'm going to talk about what I

[17:43] want to talk about. But he mentioned it

[17:45] and I was kind of confused because I was

[17:47] like, I didn't think it was a big deal.

[17:48] But he's like, "You want to talk about

[17:50] Epstein?" I'm like, "Yeah, of course."

[17:51] He like, "Go all in." like like go all

[17:54] in, bro. Like cuz I can't do it. Go all

[17:57] in. And the way and I think none of it

[18:00] obviously until he dies and then

[18:01] everybody's making this stuff up about

[18:03] his death. And the way I took it in the

[18:06] moment was that it was obviously the

[18:09] biggest controversy at the time was

[18:11] Epstein. The fact they was bull corning

[18:13] around with the foul. Donald Trump was

[18:14] being weird about it. He was doing all

[18:16] this old crazy stuff blaming Republicans

[18:18] saying don't even you ain't a Republican

[18:20] if you you know if you care about this

[18:22] stuff. and after all the administration

[18:24] was putting out fake binders and all

[18:26] kind of stuff. So people were pissed,

[18:28] man. I was too. That's one of the things

[18:30] I disagree with Trump. The way he

[18:32] handled Epstein files. I just I disagree

[18:33] with him. I thought I think he messed up

[18:35] in that in that area. That's why all

[18:37] this stuff is going on. But that's what

[18:39] I I I took Charlie to represent was that

[18:42] I can't get out there and blast Epstein

[18:45] because I got all of this. I got Trump

[18:48] administration who I'm close to. I got

[18:50] Don Jr. all these people I'm friends

[18:51] with and so I don't want to get out

[18:53] there and blast this topic and make

[18:54] Donald Trump look bad. Personally me, I

[18:57] don't care. I'm not trying to make you

[18:59] look bad. I got to tell it like it

[19:01] either because Trump don't care about

[19:03] telling like it is either. So neither am

[19:06] I. I don't care. So I get out there and

[19:08] say my thing or whatever. We come on

[19:09] stage. Hey Tatum, you killed it. All

[19:11] this sort of stuff. So why are they

[19:13] trying to make it bigger than what it

[19:14] really was? Why is this Why is this push

[19:17] Why don't you just call Erica?

[19:20] Why? Why? Why can't Matter of fact, I'm

[19:22] I might talk to Erica. I I haven't been

[19:24] trying to say nothing to Erica about

[19:25] this. Her husband's dead. Like, what

[19:27] what we need to talk about this for? She

[19:29] don't She ain't mention it, so she she

[19:30] must not It must not be that important

[19:32] for her to mention. It wasn't important

[19:33] to Charlie and it wasn't important to

[19:34] his wife. That's why she ain't said

[19:36] nothing. But there's a part of me that's

[19:37] like, Erica,

[19:39] just if Do you want me to say anything?

[19:41] I won't say nothing. If you tell me, if

[19:42] you tell me something and tell me not

[19:44] tell anybody, I won't say nothing. If

[19:45] you need me to say something you can't

[19:47] say, I'll say it. I don't give a flying

[19:49] flip. I want to know like what do you

[19:52] think about this stuff that they're

[19:53] doing? Why are they characterizing

[19:54] Charlie as a certain way? Now, I got

[19:57] more evidence that I want to share with

[19:58] you real quick because for them to

[20:01] insinuate that Charlie was like afraid

[20:03] of his donors to get on stage and

[20:06] criticize Israel. Do I need to show you

[20:08] exhibit A, B, and C? I guess I do. Come

[20:11] on, pull up that clip. Clip 104.

[20:14] This is Charlie at the Patrick Bid David

[20:17] on the Patrick BDavid podcast. Now you

[20:19] tell me, does Charlie seem like

[20:24] he Now he does seem a little hesitant,

[20:27] but he said it anyway.

[20:29] Do you do it seem to you like he would

[20:32] cannot speak on this or his donors are

[20:34] going to do nothing? He did it right

[20:36] here. Wrote a clip. Netanyahu now has an

[20:39] emergency government and a mandate to

[20:41] lead. I'm not I'm not willing to say to

[20:44] go so far that saying that Netanyahu

[20:45] knew or there was intelligence here, but

[20:47] I think some questions need to be asked.

[20:49] Was there a standown order?

[20:52] Was there a standown order?

[20:55] 6 hours. I don't believe it. Israel's

[20:57] the side of New Jersey. When I took a

[20:59] helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the

[21:02] Gaza border, it's 45 minutes.

[21:04] >> Wow.

[21:05] >> 6 hours. They're live streaming the

[21:07] killing of Jews. Was did somebody in the

[21:09] government say stand down? That is a

[21:11] legitimate non-conspiracy

[21:14] question. The whole country is the IDF.

[21:18] >> The whole country is.

[21:19] >> Yeah.

[21:19] >> And you're trying to tell me that

[21:20] they're going to concerts and kabutzes

[21:22] and schools and by reports six hours.

[21:25] Let's say it's three hours.

[21:27] >> That's suspect.

[21:29] >> Go ahead, Rob.

[21:30] >> It's also not like a rightwing uh

[21:33] reporting. This is from the New York

[21:34] Times. the long wait for help.

[21:37] >> So, openly he's criticizing Israel. I

[21:41] knew Charlie. Now, I I wasn't I didn't I

[21:43] wasn't talking to him like right before

[21:44] he died. So, I don't really know what

[21:46] where he was thinking about it at the

[21:48] time. I do know that he was with Josh

[21:50] Hammer and a rabbi who messaged me and

[21:53] they were on a text thread with him

[21:56] prepping him to defend Israel at UVU the

[21:59] day before he went there. So, clearly he

[22:01] hadn't abandoned Israel. openly

[22:04] criticized. I think that's a good

[22:06] question to ask. I think there's answers

[22:08] to that question. Interview people in

[22:10] the IDF. I interviewed a guy at Pastor

[22:13] Alan Jackson's church who was a a

[22:15] colonel in the IDF and he had made

[22:17] mention that he do not believe that it

[22:19] was a standown order. What happened? It

[22:21] was way more complicated than they

[22:22] thought it was. Right. They put all

[22:25] their resources uh in the north because

[22:28] they were afraid of the invasion coming

[22:30] from the north, not necessarily Gaza.

[22:32] Then they had a special holiday,

[22:34] Rashashana. I think a special holiday

[22:37] and it was it was Shabbat. So they got

[22:39] their pants all the way down

[22:42] before this attack happened. And the the

[22:44] colonel was saying that they came over,

[22:47] it was an alert went out that it was a

[22:49] terrorist attack, but they didn't

[22:51] realize the scale of it. They thought it

[22:53] was a couple terrorists that came over

[22:54] and they were combed

[22:57] um by the by the police force and other

[23:00] people in the kabuts. It was a fight

[23:01] going on. He didn't think it was that

[23:03] many people. They thought it was a small

[23:05] incursion. They didn't realize it was

[23:07] 7,000 terrorists. You know how crazy

[23:10] that is? I want y'all to put this in

[23:12] perspective real quick and I'll get to

[23:14] some more evidence. Do you know how

[23:15] crazy 7,000 terrorists are?

[23:19] A guy goes on a Virginia Tech campus

[23:21] with a handgun and kill 32 people. One

[23:24] person.

[23:26] We have seen active shooters and all of

[23:28] this. You you got the guy in Vegas that

[23:30] killed 50 people. You got the post

[23:33] nightclub. The guy killed I don't know

[23:34] 50 60 people in there. Post nightclub.

[23:37] One shooter. One club. Imagine 7,000

[23:41] terrorists.

[23:43] America.

[23:45] I hope that the guy that never happens.

[23:47] Our our our equipment and stuff is a

[23:49] little better. We don't have rashana and

[23:51] all that other stuff. So we kind of on

[23:53] alert and everybody got a gun in Israel.

[23:55] Everybody don't have a gun. just because

[23:56] they serving in the IDF, they're no

[23:57] longer in the IDF and they may not be

[23:59] carrying a gun. And this is at the

[24:00] Kabuz, too. So, these people don't even

[24:02] have a gun on them. They have guns

[24:03] stored in these places and they're kind

[24:05] of like the liberals. They love the

[24:07] Palestinian people. That's why they came

[24:09] and killed them. They invited them to

[24:11] their house. They advocated for the

[24:12] Palestinian people. And look who they

[24:14] killed first. Okay. But anyway, it was

[24:17] it was a over they they got overwhelmed.

[24:20] And the IDF guy said it was like 12

[24:22] hours before they can get it under

[24:24] control.

[24:26] You put that stuff in perspective, the

[24:28] damage that one active shooter can do in

[24:29] America, imagine 7,000. It we would have

[24:32] a tr we would have trouble combating

[24:34] that that level of force. So anyway,

[24:38] let's go to the next two. 105. This is

[24:42] just Charlie Kirk also saying negative

[24:45] things about Israel on camera. Roll the

[24:48] clip.

[24:48] >> But the fact is now BB and the Israeli

[24:51] hardight government has a mandate.

[24:54] >> [sighs]

[24:54] >> I got to be careful the way I say this

[24:56] to they're going to try to ethnically

[24:58] cleanse Gaza.

[24:59] >> Yep.

[25:00] >> I mean that that's and I'm I don't use

[25:02] that term lightly. Okay. They're talking

[25:05] about basically removing 2.5 million

[25:07] people from there. Okay.

[25:08] >> And honestly, they have a mandate to go

[25:11] seek justice and revenge. They do. There

[25:14] is they this idea that they need to have

[25:16] a truce or a peace treaty. That's

[25:18] morally crap after you see women and

[25:20] children be burned alive and dragged to

[25:22] the streets. But there are some serious

[25:24] questions here, Patrick. And let me tell

[25:26] you, my pattern recognition

[25:29] over the last 5 years has become pretty

[25:31] sharp. COVID, Maui fires, you know,

[25:36] Epstein. When I see a story and it

[25:39] doesn't click,

[25:41] we're our guts are usually right.

[25:45] >> All right. So, openly on Patrick B.

[25:47] David, he said that.

[25:49] And you telling me now, now here's the

[25:51] thing I want people to to understand and

[25:52] then I'm going to uh bring in one more

[25:54] clip. Charlie Kirk is very clear that he

[25:59] began to question the Israeli

[26:02] government. I know it. You should know

[26:04] it. Everybody around him knows it. That

[26:07] does not mean that he turned on Israel

[26:10] and his Zionist perspective of Israel's

[26:12] right to exist. His frustration was with

[26:15] the government, not the existence of

[26:16] Israel. People say he changed. he

[26:19] changed. No, he became more critical of

[26:21] the government. He wrote a whole letter

[26:23] to Benjamin Netany and Yahoo of his

[26:25] criticism constructively. So, there's no

[26:28] question that Charlie Kirk became more

[26:30] critical of the Israeli government.

[26:32] Charlie Kirk was on a podcast. I mean,

[26:34] he was on the stage not the other day

[26:35] saying um that he disagreed with the

[26:38] government of Israel. He disagreed with

[26:41] the fact that they are pushing LGBTQ and

[26:43] all this other crazy stuff. He disagreed

[26:45] with that. But he's he would never

[26:47] change his his belief that Israel has a

[26:50] right to exist as a Zionist. He said it

[26:52] on camera. I'm gonna find the clip.

[26:54] Let's get the last clip in. 106.

[26:57] Roll it. And Jewish donors, they have a

[27:00] lot of explaining to do, a lot of

[27:02] decoupling to do because Jewish donors

[27:04] have been the number one funding

[27:07] mechanism of radical open border

[27:09] neoliberal quasi Marxist policies,

[27:13] cultural institutions, and nonprofits.

[27:16] This is a beast created by secular Jews.

[27:19] And now it's coming for Jews. And

[27:21] they're like, "What on earth happened?"

[27:24] And it's not just the colleges, it's the

[27:26] nonprofits, it's the movies, it's

[27:28] Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like

[27:30] time for you guys to wake up and say no

[27:31] more. Draw a line in the sand. I don't

[27:33] care if you hate me.

[27:35] Now look, I agree with him a thousand%.

[27:38] Anybody with a with a brain stem can

[27:41] criticize secular Jews and understand

[27:44] that every Jew ain't the same. You

[27:46] should criticize secular Jews. Secular

[27:48] Jews just as ignorant as black folks.

[27:51] Black people still vote for these

[27:52] Democrats ain't done nothing. Secular

[27:54] Jews out there voting for Mum Donnie.

[27:57] Am I gonna get cancelled now because I'm

[27:59] No, you don't get cancelceled for for

[28:01] being rational. You get cancelceled for

[28:03] lying and pushing conspiracy theories.

[28:05] But Charlie Kirk said it openly, didn't

[28:06] he? On this show, front of the world.

[28:10] And you telling me on stage he's telling

[28:12] Tucker, "Go Max." Like he can't say

[28:14] anything. He said it. Charlie Kirk was

[28:17] openly critical of Israel. the

[28:19] government. Come on, bro.

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