An Inside Look at The Investigation Exposing Somali Fraud in Minnesota

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[00:41] We are very fortunate to have the man

[00:45] behind the biggest story in the country

[00:48] for the last couple of uh days. That is

[00:50] Nick Shirley, independent journalist. Uh

[00:53] he's doing amazing work. Nick, welcome

[00:55] back to the Charlie Kirk show. And I

[00:57] have to tell you that you uh and I want

[01:00] our audience to know you were the last

[01:02] live guest on the Charlie Kirk show

[01:04] before the news uh happened uh on 910.

[01:07] And so, uh, sort of a tragic reminder,

[01:10] but I'm just so pleased to see how, uh,

[01:13] well you're, uh, you're doing and and it

[01:15] brings brings us all joy to see to see

[01:17] the good work, uh, that you're doing in

[01:19] Min Minneapolis and and beyond.

[01:22] >> Thank you. It's been a crazy past few

[01:24] days as we've been uncovering what could

[01:26] potentially be one of the largest fraud

[01:28] scandals in American history out here in

[01:30] Minnesota.

[01:32] >> Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, you

[01:33] call it chasing pirates. you uh you know

[01:36] I I have to ask you how did you get

[01:39] turned on to this story in in the first

[01:41] place, Nick?

[01:44] >> Well, I've known about the fraud taking

[01:46] place for a very long time. Ever since

[01:47] last June, I made my first visit to

[01:49] Minnesota kind of documenting how what's

[01:52] been happening inside of the state. And

[01:54] then a lot of the locals were telling me

[01:56] about the fraud that was taking place

[01:57] within the daycarees, the the also have

[02:00] their houses where they're running home

[02:01] healthcare businesses out of. But I

[02:04] could never I I couldn't dedicate the

[02:07] time to be able to get all the

[02:09] information with everything else I have

[02:10] to do with my YouTube channel. And so I

[02:14] was very fortunate when this man by the

[02:15] name of David reached out to me and me

[02:17] and him were able to collaborate and he

[02:19] was able to go out and get the numbers

[02:21] as he's been looking into this fraud for

[02:23] years now. So it was a joint effort and

[02:26] I was super happy to be able to amplify

[02:28] his voice and his work that he's been

[02:29] able to do.

[02:30] >> Yeah.

[02:30] >> And uh with my work as well.

[02:33] >> Yeah. Tell us more about David. Who is

[02:35] he? And uh you know, how do people

[02:37] follow him? Follow his work as well. I I

[02:40] was trying to look around. I didn't see

[02:41] much on him.

[02:44] >> He's just a local legend. Just plain and

[02:47] simple.

[02:48] >> He's a lifelong local legend in

[02:50] Minnesota. And uh we have to keep him

[02:53] pretty, you know, like can't say too

[02:55] much about him because people are even

[02:57] recognizing him out in places and I

[02:59] don't want anything to happen to David.

[03:00] So, uh, he's just a local legend that

[03:02] cares a lot about his city, wants the

[03:04] best for his city, and is sick of seeing

[03:07] American pirates

[03:09] steal money from hardworking taxpaying

[03:11] citizens here.

[03:13] >> Yeah, that's amazing. So, so Nick,

[03:17] first question, uh, second question

[03:19] rather, is what has, uh, what has it

[03:22] been like to see the attorney general of

[03:24] the United States, uh, tagging you in

[03:26] posts? The FBI is responding. Did you

[03:31] have any inkling when you were doing

[03:32] this investigation that it had this

[03:34] potential?

[03:37] >> I knew it had a lot of potential and I'm

[03:40] super happy to see it how people are

[03:42] reacting to it now. And it's also very

[03:44] sad to see how people are trying to like

[03:47] justify the fraud. It's pretty hilarious

[03:49] actually. But it's actually amazing how

[03:52] the Trump administration because this is

[03:53] a great opportunity for them to go in

[03:55] and really show people, okay, we're

[03:57] paying attention. like it

[04:01] journalist and it did more than all

[04:04] other mainstream networks in one day.

[04:07] >> What do you make of this Washington Post

[04:10] reporter? I I'm sure you saw this where

[04:12] he he suggested that you deserve to have

[04:15] someone pull a stand your ground on you

[04:17] because you show up at these businesses.

[04:21] >> Well, I never tried to go inside of any

[04:23] of the businesses. I never forced my way

[04:25] into any of the businesses. I simply

[04:27] just asked if I could enroll a child

[04:30] just like a typical operation like just

[04:32] a typical operation that a parent would

[04:34] go to one of these daycare centers. So I

[04:36] wasn't putting in force or anything. I

[04:38] was simply just asking can I put my son

[04:40] Joey into daycare

[04:43] >> and it could answer that question. Well,

[04:45] yeah,

[04:46] >> I think that's people are noticing the

[04:48] quality learing thing, but I think that

[04:50] is actually probably the best the best

[04:52] part of the montage for me is when you

[04:54] just ask, "Can I enroll a child here?"

[04:56] and the person immediately responds,

[04:58] "Why?"

[05:00] >> Yeah. Why?

[05:04] >> Yeah. So, Nick,

[05:05] >> yeah, they it's like so obvious. And the

[05:07] qual whole thing with the Quality Laring

[05:09] Center, too. It's hilarious because

[05:11] while Somali were busting in children,

[05:15] the the commissioner of uh I think CH

[05:18] some one of the the department of

[05:21] children or something. She was on a live

[05:23] stream at the same time talking about

[05:24] how they closed the daycare a week ago.

[05:28] So they had the Somali busting in

[05:30] children trying to cover up. Meanwhile,

[05:33] the lady who's in charge is saying they

[05:35] closed the daycare a week ago.

[05:36] Meanwhile, the video had been filmed

[05:38] more than a week ago. So, and I posted

[05:41] the original video of me outside the

[05:42] daycare about a week ago, and then I was

[05:45] able to produce the entire documentary

[05:47] when I was at home for Christmas.

[05:50] >> Um, Nick, you've been pretty uh loud on

[05:53] your social media about the fact that

[05:55] you think Tim Waltz uh needs to be held

[05:58] accountable for this. What in your

[06:00] reporting has led you to believe that

[06:02] the complicity here or the culpability

[06:04] goes all the way up to the top in the

[06:06] state of Minnesota?

[06:10] >> I think $9 billion is a lot of money.

[06:12] And so if the governor is knowing that

[06:17] all this money is going out, I think the

[06:20] governor should know about $9 billion

[06:22] being sent to these welfare programs and

[06:25] these other businesses fraudulently. And

[06:28] then there's nobody at the businesses.

[06:31] >> Yeah. In these neighborhoods, Nick, you

[06:34] you made some comment. I think it was on

[06:35] Fox News where you were saying that this

[06:38] whole racket is kept alive by the fact

[06:40] that these politicians need the Somalian

[06:42] votes at this point. They've become a

[06:44] huge voting block within the state of of

[06:47] Minnesota. When you're walking through

[06:49] these neighborhoods on the ground, does

[06:51] what what percentage of the population

[06:53] does it feel like is Somalian? Are these

[06:55] neighborhoods almost entirely Somalian

[06:57] now? They've kind of moved in or is it

[07:00] 50/50? What's what's it feel like?

[07:03] >> Like 95% in certain neighborhoods

[07:06] throughout Minneapolis.

[07:07] >> Wow.

[07:08] >> Especially in like areas like Cedar

[07:09] Riverside. I mean, a lot of these

[07:11] apartment complexes, I said on Fox, but

[07:14] a lot of these apartment complexes,

[07:15] white people, white people and anybody

[07:17] who's not Somalian have been pushed out

[07:19] of these apartment complexes because

[07:21] they claim that people are Islamophobic

[07:23] or racist and they're able to get the

[07:25] landlords to then kick them out because

[07:27] of those claims. And so, you have entire

[07:29] apartment complexes that are full of

[07:31] Somali people. They're not even making

[07:34] money. 81% of the population, the Somali

[07:36] population here in Minnesota, lives off

[07:38] of welfare.

[07:40] These people have four wives

[07:43] and they run these daycare companies.

[07:45] I'm doubt they're paying their wives.

[07:47] And so then those wives are able to also

[07:50] claim welfare while they're receiving

[07:51] millions of dollars from the government.

[07:52] It's a huge It's like a like the roots

[07:54] are deep in this fraud.

[07:56] >> Yeah. Um I'm going to play a clip from

[07:58] Tim Waltz here, Nick, and have you

[08:00] respond to it where he uh he's accusing

[08:03] the Trump admin of white supremacy 120.

[08:06] This is what happens when your own

[08:08] federal government wages war against

[08:09] you. This is what happens when they

[08:11] target communities for their own

[08:13] benefit. This is what happens when they

[08:15] scapegoat. And this is what say happens

[08:17] when they no longer hide the idea of

[08:19] white supremacy. When you hear the vice

[08:20] president of the United States talk

[08:22] about now white people won't have to

[08:23] apologize for being white. That's never

[08:25] happened once in my whole damn life. And

[08:28] I think everybody in this room knows

[08:29] what they're doing. So we're here today

[08:31] to say enough of this. We're here today

[08:34] to stand that Minnesota will protect

[08:35] their neighbors.

[08:39] >> Nick, what do you make of his

[08:40] >> total panic?

[08:41] >> Yeah, go ahead.

[08:43] >> Was in total panic.

[08:45] >> He's in total panic right now. He

[08:47] doesn't know what to do because he knows

[08:48] the fraud's catching up. He's trying to

[08:50] run for reelection. Meanwhile, he's

[08:51] probably trying to decide whether or not

[08:52] he should resign to try not take

[08:54] accountability for what's happening. And

[08:56] then he's going to blame the white man.

[08:59] >> Like, what's he thinking? It it really

[09:01] Tim Walls always strikes me as he's like

[09:03] a time warp from

[09:06] 2015 or 2017.

[09:08] There's just this type of person and

[09:10] he's that type of person where anything

[09:12] he doesn't like he's just going to

[09:14] instantly shut it down by pointing and

[09:17] screaming racist. And the sad thing is

[09:19] it's Minnesota so it might work. Uh,

[09:22] have you heard anything have you heard

[09:24] anything from locals in Minnesota who've

[09:27] reached out to you or sent you any

[09:28] interesting stories for follow-ups or or

[09:31] just interesting anecdotes you think

[09:33] might be good to share?

[09:35] >> Oh, I've received thousands of messages

[09:36] from people in Minnesota. Everyone's

[09:38] thankful that this fraud is being

[09:39] exposed. Nobody wants their money going

[09:41] to fraudulent

[09:44] businesses like daycarees or even have

[09:47] the having the potential that to be

[09:48] wired off to Somalia. Our money should

[09:51] stay here inside the United States,

[09:52] especially if it's tax dollars.

[09:54] >> Yep. Yep. Nick, what are you what are

[09:57] you planning on doing next? Nick, can

[09:59] you give us a a hint of what you're what

[10:01] you're currently working on? Are you

[10:03] going to stay on the fraud beat?

[10:06] >> There's a lot of fraud happening here in

[10:08] Minnesota. So, I have a part two coming

[10:10] out very soon uh of the fraud because

[10:13] there's a whole another layer of that

[10:15] that we weren't even able to put into

[10:16] this first video. And so we're working

[10:19] on that as well.

[10:21] >> Wow. I Nick, I I I hope you're staying

[10:24] safe. We have the URL down there. Uh

[10:26] blacklineguardianfund.com

[10:30] obviously uh here on this show, the

[10:33] Charlie Kirk show. We uh we take that

[10:35] very seriously and I I please, if you're

[10:38] watching this and you want to support

[10:39] Nick's work, uh help him with his

[10:42] security. Uh it's really really

[10:43] important. Blacklineguardianfund.com.

[10:47] uh please please please uh consider

[10:49] giving Nick some backing. He's got to

[10:51] stay safe out there and now his profile

[10:53] is larger than ever. So Nick, if you

[10:55] want to just mention that and has has

[10:58] your ability to do your work on the

[11:00] ground, has it changed given just how

[11:02] much your profile has increased?

[11:06] >> Yeah, it's changed exponentially. So

[11:07] with that black line guardian, it's

[11:09] actually really cool because it's just a

[11:11] essentially a nonprofit that um officer

[11:14] Tatum set up a while back and all the

[11:17] funds go directly to me. So like right

[11:18] now I have security with me and it's

[11:20] because of that and it's essential

[11:22] because people are I mean people are

[11:25] doxing my me they're doxing like members

[11:27] of my family.

[11:28] >> Yep.

[11:28] >> And so it's like actually very worrisome

[11:31] like like some Indian Indian newspaper

[11:33] did a whole entire article doxing my

[11:35] family yesterday. I was like, "What the

[11:37] heck?"

[11:38] >> Yeah.

[11:39] >> And I don't put it in my family or

[11:40] anything really like

[11:42] it's like sad. It's like, are you

[11:44] serious?

[11:45] >> Well,

[11:45] >> and I never wanted to have to have

[11:47] >> Yeah. No, as Nick, I can say as uh

[11:50] somebody who's lived through doxing in

[11:51] the recent months, it's a pretty

[11:53] terrible experience. And when the family

[11:55] gets involved, when they we start

[11:57] targeting family members, it's it's

[11:58] awful. So, uh again, please stay safe.

[12:01] Uh Nick, we can't wait for part two. I

[12:04] know you uh got to run cuz you're you're

[12:06] uh chasing pirates right now. You're on

[12:08] the road. So, uh you know, God bless

[12:10] you. Stay safe and thanks for making the

[12:12] time coming on the show.

[12:15] >> Of course. Thank you guys.

[12:16] >> Yeah. And um you know, thanks for being

[12:19] the last uh live guest uh on the show on

[12:22] 910, which is uh it's pretty creepy, but

[12:26] uh in some ways fitting seeing uh the

[12:28] great things that you're doing now. So,

[12:30] um, you know, you're you're you're the

[12:32] the baton is passed to a lot of people

[12:33] and you're one of them, Nick. So, uh,

[12:35] Godspeed, my friend.

[12:38] >> Thank you. We need carry on the legacy.

[12:40] >> Yeah, man.

[12:41] >> God bless you guys. Bye-bye.

[12:42] >> See you.

[12:44] >> Um, Nick Shirley, he's uh out literally

[12:47] right now. We were We were going to do

[12:49] it video and he he calls me and he goes,

[12:51] "Uh, hey, I can't do it because I'm out

[12:53] chasing pirates. Can I do a call in?"

[12:55] You know, we have 25 seconds here and I

[12:57] just want to throw out this point that I

[12:58] think is very important, which it's good

[13:00] for us to expose the fraud that's going

[13:02] on with these daycare and Medicaid

[13:03] things, but also we just shouldn't do

[13:07] this in the first place with people that

[13:09] we're bringing from the other side of

[13:10] the world. If they need infinite welfare

[13:12] for Medicaid, for daycare, for

[13:15] everything, they probably just shouldn't

[13:16] be here in the first place. Just a lot.

[13:19] Deport.