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Subscribe on YouTubeAndrew Kolvet and Blake Neff Break Down the WNBA's Latest Drama: Trans Athletes, Racial Tension, and Sophie Cunningham's Brutal Foul
Andrew Kolvet and Blake Neff dissect the chaotic state of the WNBA, where former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White have declared for the draft by identifying as women, exposing the league's contradictory stance on transgender athletes. The discussion expands to cover Sophie Cunningham's vicious on-court assault after she questioned allowing biological men in women's basketball, the rise of anti-white sentiment among players, and how soap opera-style drama has become the WNBA's only marketable product. From weak coaching to cultural petri dish moments, they explore whether the league's controversies are a cynical marketing strategy or proof that the product on the court simply can't compete.
Former NBA Players Challenge WNBA's Transgender Policy
The WNBA has become what Andrew Kolvet describes as an "absolute dumpster fire of a league" where "every woke ideology had a baby." The latest development involves former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White declaring for the WNBA draft by identifying as women, directly challenging the league's eligibility rules.
Royce White explained his decision: "Right now, I'm just having a blast in my feminine era. I never thought that I was a woman. I've always trusted the science. I thought I was a man my entire life. But after further review, I look at my personal preferences. It would appear that I am indeed sometimes identifying as a transgender woman. And I think it's only fair I get a chance to play with some of my queens here in the twilight of my career, my athletic prime."
Enes Kanter Freedom made his announcement more formally: "After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I am officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA. I am simply asking that the current rules be applied equally to everyone. The rules that represent the very values many WNBA players and coaches have publicly advocated for and I look forward to the WNBA honoring its stated principle."
The League's Legal Vulnerability
Blake Neff points out a critical weakness in the WNBA's position. Article 13 section 1A of the WNBA collective bargaining agreement states that only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA. However, the agreement never explicitly defines what a woman is through any medical or chromosomal definition.
The situation becomes more complicated because the WNBA is incorporated in New York State, where laws regarding gender identity are particularly favorable to transgender claims. Neff explains: "Federal law is getting more insane. Red state law is getting more sane, I should say. But blue state laws, California, the Pacific Coast, New York, they're as insane as ever when it comes to the trans stuff. The letter of the law in those states is all in on you're just a woman is whoever defines themselves as a woman. They don't even need to change their birth certificate. They can basically change it on the fly."
WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert sent a memo to teams addressing the situation: "I know many of you have received questions in recent weeks regarding transgender athlete participation in women's basketball. I expect this topic will continue to receive significant attention." The memo indicated the topic will be discussed by a task force of team presidents.
Sophie Cunningham's Brutal Assault After Speaking Out
The controversy intensified when Sophie Cunningham, a defender for Caitlyn Clark on the Indiana Fever, was asked whether women should compete against biological men in the WNBA. She responded: "I don't think that's fair. I love everybody, but I don't think that's fair. It's just common sense."
Shortly after her comments, Cunningham was subjected to what commentators immediately recognized as a flagrant foul by player Deon Carrington. The broadcast commentators reacted in real time:
"Face coming down trying to prevent the layup. But that is just a hard hit. That's definitely going to be upgraded I think to a flagrant two. There is wind up, there is follow through. There's potential for injury with Sophie Cunningham in a vulnerable position in the air."
The other commentator agreed: "Yeah. I mean there's no question."
Andrew Kolvet emphasized the severity: "They're saying that's definitely going to get upgraded to a flagrant two. Of course, like you have to go after the ball. There were some people on social media that were playing a clip from Caitlyn Clark that kind of had an aggressive foul, but you could tell Caitlyn Clark was actually going for the ball and missed it and hit the face. This Deon was just trying to take off Sophie's head."
Carrington's Response and Growing Anti-White Sentiment
Following the incident, Deon Carrington took to social media claiming the backlash was due to "white privilege." Kolvet identifies this as part of a larger pattern: "Not only do we have the trans issue, there is a vehement vitriolic anti-white sentiment growing amongst the WNBA players because their two biggest stars now are Caitlyn Clark and Sophie Cunningham. Both white chicks. I'm sure that doesn't feel good."
The Coach's Shocking Defense of the Opposing Player
What made the situation even more remarkable was Indiana Fever coach Stephanie White's response. Rather than defending her own player, she defended the player who committed the foul:
"One of the things about Deon is that she's going to play her butt off, man. She's going to compete. Nobody's going to go walking in for a layup. And so I'm not I don't oppose the hard foul. But I also don't think that she intentionally went for the head."
Blake Neff expressed disbelief: "I can't imagine seeing that. In the NBA, you would never see that."
Kolvet was even more critical: "What an absolute abysmal coach. They always say like, oh, there would be no wars and the world would be great if women ran the world and all this stuff. The WNBA is a walking talking indictment of that perspective. They have weak, feckless women at every turn in that league and it is run to the ground. It is the worst run league you could ever imagine and they make a fool out of themselves almost every day, almost every week."
Is Drama the WNBA's Only Marketable Product?
Blake Neff offers a contrarian take on the situation: "Are they getting it wrong, Andrew? Because we have talked about the WNBA four weeks in a row and there will probably be a fifth week after this. They are getting us to talk about it. The only thing worse than not being talked about is not being talked about. They are selling their product."
Neff elaborates on why drama works for sports: "We follow sports because they create drama. They give us storylines. They give us characters. They give us soap opera clashes. That's how the NFL works. That's why the NFL has people following the draft. They have people following training camp. The WNBA is hitting it out of the park on the drama sector. Who knew women would be good at doing drama?"
Andrew Kolvet eventually concedes the point: "Since the product of the WNBA is so terrible and unwatchable, this is their only alternative to make it interesting. Since the product itself cannot stand up, okay, fine. It will literally just become a cultural petri dish for every issue of the day. That is the only product here that's acceptable apparently. But I would not want this for men's league. I just want to watch Scottie Scheffler hit the ball into the hole. I just want to watch Shohei Ohtani throw 101 miles per hour and then hit a grand slam. That's what I want from those leagues. I want those leagues to be an escape. This is not an escape. This is like throwing every cultural issue straight into your face."
The Future of the WNBA
Blake Neff admits the league has captured his attention despite his initial resistance: "Congratulations to the WNBA for getting me to voluntarily look up what is going on in the WNBA. I've always resisted this. I've resisted knowing any of the team names or any of the players, even if they have names like Deon Mustard. But they're winning me over. I want to see the drama. I want to see the feud. I want to see how the trans thing shakes out. I want to see how the Cunningham war shakes out."
Andrew Kolvet suggests they might attend a game when the Indiana Fever returns to Phoenix, joking they could "wear XXXY shirts" and "creatively contribute to the discussion."
The conversation raises questions about whether the WNBA's transformation into a cultural battleground represents the league maturing into something legitimate, or whether it reveals fundamental problems with both the product on the court and the leadership guiding the organization.
Video Transcript
The NBA is pretty terrible. I will say
the finals with the the Knicks was
actually pretty fun. I didn't watch
them.
>> But there is there is one league that is
worse than the NBA
>> and that's the WNBA. What an absolute
dumpster fire of a league. It's like
every woke ideology had a baby and they
all popped out into the WNBA and it
becomes this constant content cycle
because they do one stupid thing after
the next. But interesting new
development in the WNBA saga and that is
that men have decided that they are
women and they have changed their
pronouns and they are going to call out
the WNBA for their hypocrisy and the
insanity of their own ideology. And that
is Andis Caner Freedom and Royce White,
two former NBA players have declared for
the WNBA
draft and it is glorious. sat too.
>> You know, right right now, I'm just I'm
just having a blast in my feminine era.
I never thought that I was a a a woman.
You know, I I I've always trusted the
science. I thought I was a man my entire
life. But, you know, after further
review, I I, you know, look strong look
at my my personal preferences. It would
appear that that I am indeed uh uh
sometimes identifying as a transgender
woman. And I think it's only fair I get
a chance to play with with some of my
queens uh uh here in the twilight of my
career, my athletic uh prime.
>> Man, former not to be outdone.
>> Oh, yeah. You do the other clip. Do the
other clip.
>> Yeah. All right. S three. This is from
Andis Caner Freedom.
>> After careful consideration and
reviewing the current eligibility
guidelines, I am officially declaring
myself a WNBA prospect. If simply
declaring who you are is all that's
required, then I meet every single
requirement necessary to compete in the
WNBA. I am simply asking that the
current rules be applied equally to
everyone. The rules that represent the
very values many WNBA players and
coaches have publicly advocated for and
I look forward to the WNBA honoring its
stated principle.
>> I have so many things to say about this.
Uh first of all,
>> okay, go for it.
>> We say we say like two former NBA
players. Royce White wasn't even an NBA
player. He played in the National
Basketball League of Canada, which
exists apparently. And what I really
want him to make it cuz I just I suspect
this retired guy who was in a league
you've never heard of, would just still
absolutely annihilate the WNBA. And it
would be fun to see confirmation of
that. But I'm looking here. I also wish
this had happened a couple years ago
because I think if they'd if they dared
to do this in 23 or 24 at the at the
peak of the push back where the main
advocates of the trans lunacy were still
maximally allin on it. It it would have
been most glorious. But I'm looking here
uh article uh it looks like article 13
section 1A of the WNBA collective
bargaining agreement states that only
players who are women are eligible to
play in the WNBA. But they never asked
themselves a very important question,
Andrew. And I think you know what that
question is.
>> What is
>> what is a woman?
>> A woman, it doesn't explicitly define
what one is through any medical or
chromosomal definition. And so they're
stuck. And on top of that, I believe the
WNBA is incorporated in the state of New
York. And that's going to that could
make a big difference here cuz federal
law is getting more insane. Red state
law is getting more more sane, I should
say, getting more sane. But blue state
laws, California, the Pacific Coast, New
York, they're as insane as ever when it
comes to the trans stuff. And so I think
these two players, Royce White and Caner
Freedom, they have they've discovered
the weak point, which is these guys,
the letter of the law in those states is
all in on you're just a woman is whoever
defines themselves as a woman. They can
They don't even need to change their
birth certificate. They can basically
change it on the fly. You have to
respect their gender identity. I think
the WNBA is going to be having a very
interesting league meeting about this
and they may have to make an
announcement that uh is not in accord
with the with the fine-tuned points of
leftwing uh leftwing rules right now.
>> Well, that's right. Right. WNBA
Commissioner Kathy Inglebert sent a memo
to teams that addresses ongoing
discussions around transgender athletes
in women's basketball. She says, and I
quote, "I know many of you have received
questions in recent weeks regarding
transgender athlete participation in
women's basketball." And I expect this
topic will continue to receive
significant attention. Angelber Angleber
Engelbert wrote in the memo which was
sent Friday afternoon and obtained by
the Associated Press and ESPN. I wanted
to reach out to share how we are
approaching these conversations at the
league office and to thank those of you
who have responded to questions from the
media with thoughtfulness and
professionalism. The memo said the topic
will be discussed further by a task
force of team presidents. They need a
task force to to decide what a woman is.
By the way, then there's that French um
transgender woman and apparently
uh this player is crushing and is open
to playing in the WNBA. So they've got
this this thing is coming to a head. It
is a checkmate move by Royce White and
Enis Caner Freedom and I totally endorse
it. Now it's worth saying that this
whole conversation started because
Sophie Cunningham, a pretty tall blonde
uh player who was getting very popular,
by the way, because she was Caitlyn
Clark's defender on the same team. It's
like all of all of the WNBA's issues are
like right in Indiana with the Indiana
fever. don't know all the teams names,
but I know that one. Sophie Cunningham
was her defender. And then she was asked
like, "Do you believe that women should
be uh playing against men at the WNBA?"
And she just said, "Yeah, I don't think
that's fair. Like, I love everybody, but
I don't think that's fair. It's just
common sense." Well, this became a huge
controversy. Everybody's talking about
it over there. And now she's got a
target on her back. So, she was the
defender for Caitlyn Clark, but now she
she's getting fouled like like she's a
dude. It's it this this would make the
1980s like Pistons Bulls rival rivalry.
It like it's that kind of foul that we
see here. This is from Dane Carrington.
No, it's not a mustard. This is a real
person's name. Dane, check out this
foul. Saut six
>> face coming down trying to prevent the
layup. But that is just a hard hit.
That's definitely going to be upgraded I
think to a flagrant too. Ryan, I
>> I think that is going to be a flagrant
too. There is line wind lined up. There
is follow through. There's potential for
injury
>> without Sophie Cunningham in a
vulnerable position in the air.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah. I mean there's no question.
>> First of all, she made the basket and
won. And they're saying I mean that's
just immediate reaction from the
commentators. They're like that's
definitely going to get upgraded to a
flagrant too. Of course, like you have
to go after the ball. And there were
some people on social media that were
playing a clip from Caitlyn Clark that
kind of had an aggressive foul, but you
could tell Caitlyn Clark was actually
going for the ball and missed it and hit
the face. This this Dane was just trying
to take off Sophie's head. And then she
runs to social media and says, "Oh, it's
white privilege." That's her reaction to
one of the most flagrant fouls in WNBA
history. Uh, I think we have a problem
here. And I think we know what it is.
So, not only do we have the trans issue,
there is a vehement vitriolic anti-white
sentiment growing amongst the WNBA
players because their two biggest stars
now are Caitlyn Clark and Sophie
Cunningham. Both white chicks. I'm sure
that doesn't feel good.
>> Well, so this is where I I I kind of
make it very funny to me because we were
dunking on the WNBA, the league where
they can't dunk, but this actually makes
it far more interesting to me. I don't
really care about I don't really like
basketball as a sport that much and I
definitely don't care about the the
women's version of it. But but that is
not the only reason that we follow
sports, Andrew. We follow sports because
they create drama. They give us
storylines. They give us characters.
They give us soap opera clashes. Like
that's how the NFL works. That's why the
NFL has people following the draft. They
have people following training camp. You
have those crazy players who are
arriving at practice in hot air balloons
like uh Antonio Brown did once I believe
or Chad Chad Johnson changes his name to
Chad and go. Those are all reasons that
we follow sports and the WNBA is hitting
it out of the park or getting the dong.
I don't know making the three-point
shot. Choose your idiom of choice. They
are absolutely crushing it on the drama
sector. Who knew women would be good at
doing drama? Who who could imagine that?
And that is what is like standing out to
me about this. So it's not even just the
fowl. It's not even just that Sophie
Cunningham is getting attacked for her
views. It's they're they're finding all
the ways to make it exciting. So what
really made that story crazy, for
example, in dude sports generally the
coach will come out and regardless of
what his player did, he's he's in the
paint for his guy. He's going to defend
his player. He's going to make excuses
for them. In the WNBA, the coaches make
excuses for the opposing players. Let's
do that. This is the fever coach
Stephanie White defending Dejon Mustard
Carrington after she mugged Sophie
Cunningham. Clip five.
>> One of the things about Nay is that
she's going to play her butt off, man.
She's going to compete. Nobody's going
to go walking in for a layup. And so,
um, I'm not I don't oppose the hard
foul. Um, but I also don't think that
she intentionally went for the net.
>> I don't think she intentionally did it,
but also if she did, I'm fine with it.
You get to mug my own players, possibly
injure them. That That's insane to me.
And I can't I can't imagine see that.
>> No, never. In the NBA, you would never
see that. First of all, second of all,
what a absolute abysmal coach. And this
is the this is the big reveal, Blake.
And I'm I'm going to say something
sexist here. I'm sorry, but they always
say like, oh, there would be no wars and
the world would be great if women, you
know, ran the world and all this stuff.
The WNBA is a walking talking indictment
of that perspective. They have weak,
feckless women at every turn in that
league and it is run to the ground. It
is the worst run league you could ever
imagine and they make a fool out of
themselves almost every day, almost
every week. Which Blake likes to make
fun of me because we talked about the
WNBA on the show the last like every
week for the last four weeks. But
there's a reason because this is these
are not easy. These are not hard calls.
These are layups. To use the idiom,
these are layups and they're still
getting it wrong because they're a bunch
of idiots. Like this, you need some
leadership in this league.
>> Are they getting it wrong, Andrew? Are
they getting it wrong? Because we have
talked about the WNBA four weeks in a
row and there will probably be a fifth
week after this. They are getting us to
talk about it.
>> Talking about the product
>> and the only thing worse than
>> talking about the product,
>> not being talked about is not being
talked about.
>> They are selling their product. I have
never watched a WNBA game.
>> No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. This is why
Caitlyn Clark was such a boon to that
league because everybody wanted to see a
woman, Caitlyn Clark, hit threes like a
dude. It was the first product on the
court that was like, it's the product on
the court. We're actually interested in
watching the product on the court. This
is all like soap opera drama. This is
all like and and yeah, to your point,
like the culture is kind of going that
way and that's just going to happen more
and more. We're we're less interested in
facts and reality and we're more
interested in conspiracies and like
daily soap operas bane of my existence
for the last 11 months. But that's not a
good sign for culture and that's what
made Caitlyn Clark exceptional. But then
now Caitlyn Clark is weak too. She's
basically refusing to take a stand on
any of this stuff. She just wants to
ball. I get it.
Hold on. Let me push back on that. You
were saying Caitlyn Clark is great
because she was just a great player
succeeding on the court. But now, now
you're saying she's weak cuz she's not
engaging with the soap opera drama.
Admit it, Andrew. You love the soap
opera drama in the WNBA. You want all of
the players to be heroes, to be
villains, to be to you want the combat
on social media. That's what we crave.
That's what is making this league
succeed now. They We basically need all
the players to have opinions on every
issue. I want I want a WNBA player to go
out and say we should ban late term
abortion and get like a hard foul over
that one. I want a WNBA player to take a
position on I want them all to have
positions on the Iran war, on Ukraine.
They should have positions on on
tariffs, trade, everything. They should
have We should know all of their
favorite TV shows.
>> Maximize the drama.
>> I'm going to augment my position, Blake.
I'm gonna augment my position. Since the
product of the de WNBA is so terrible
and unwatchable, this is their only
alternative to make it interesting. So,
I will agree that since the product on
itself cannot stand up, you sell
tickets. They're still losing money, I'm
pretty sure. Then, okay, fine. This will
be we it will literally just become a
cultural petri dish for every kaj dour
of the day. That that that is the only
product here that's acceptable
apparently. And I mean, but I would not
want this for men's league. I just want
to watch Scotty Sheffller hit the ball
into the hole. I just want to watch, you
know, show Otani throw 101 miles per
hour and then hit a grand slam. That's
what I want from those leagues. I want
those leagues to be an escape. This is
not an escape. This is like throwing
every cultural issue straight into your
face, you know, like, and I don't think
that's a good thing, but whatever. Here
we are. And it is the only thing worth
talking about because the product on the
court is abysmal.
Okay. I I [laughter]
>> nothing to say there.
>> All All I will say is the WNBA like it's
it's it's embarrassing for me to admit
this. Congratulations to the WNBA for
getting me to voluntarily
look up what is going on in the WNBA.
I've always resisted this. I've resisted
knowing any of the team names or any of
the players, even if they have names
like Deon Mustard.
But they're winning me over. I want to
see I want to see the drama. I want to
see the feud. I don't really watch TV,
but this is a TV show equivalent that
I'm kind of interested in following.
Like I want to see how the trans thing
shakes out. I want to see how the
Cunningham war shakes out.
>> Kind of won me over, Andrew. I can't
wait till next week's segment.
>> If they come to Phoenix, we got to get
tickets. The Indiana Fever come back to
Phoenix. We got to get tickets. Okay,
that's that's what we're gonna do. and
we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna, you
know, not throw uh sexual items onto the
court. That was one of the more recent
fads. Uh we're we could wear XXXY
shirts. We got to find a way to be, you
know, to creatively contribute to the
discussion. What do you guys think about
the WNBA? Are you now intrigued? Are you
now watching it? Is this the WNBA
maturing into a legitimate sports
league? Do you think that the WA needs
male leadership to gl put it on the the
glide path to something more legitimate
or is it already there? Is this the best
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