Another Charlie Kirk Conspiracy Theory Gets Exposed With the Facts

[00:00] I'm Pastor Alan Jackson. We've had the

[00:01] privilege of partnering with Charlie

[00:03] Kirk and Turning Point USA. It was an

[00:05] honor to stand with them. All of us are

[00:07] grieving Charlie's absence, but here's

[00:09] the reality. We have an assignment.

[00:11] We're not stopping. We're going to

[00:13] continue forward with what Charlie

[00:15] invested his life in. Now, it's our turn

[00:18] to lead with faith. We're going to make

[00:20] an impact in this generation for the

[00:22] kingdom of God. We have some resources

[00:24] for you. You can go to

[00:24] allenjackson.com/charlie.

[00:27] together we're going to make a

[00:29] difference in this generation.

[00:30] Bernardet, thank you for being a

[00:32] subscriber and uh shoot.

[00:34] >> So, I just really wanted to discuss how

[00:37] can we stop all these horrible rumors

[00:40] that are going on. Um you know, the

[00:42] collectiveness of everybody being so

[00:44] hateful towards the team and to what's

[00:46] going on with Erica. You know, it's just

[00:50] very hurtful since I've been a long-term

[00:52] Turning Point investor and I love

[00:55] Charlie more than anything. So, I just

[00:58] think if we need to have somebody very

[01:00] strong to get out there and say enough

[01:01] is enough. We're continuing the mission

[01:04] of Turning Point. We don't want to lose

[01:06] a piece of Charlie in this. We want to

[01:08] support Erica at every move. Stop

[01:11] analyzing everything. Stop being

[01:13] toddlers,

[01:14] you know, stop the infighting. We have

[01:16] enough infighting in the party as it is.

[01:20] And I just think a little bit more of a

[01:22] stand should be taken because you guys

[01:23] have a very hard job. You have the

[01:25] midterms coming. Yes. Uh, yeah. You

[01:27] mentioned being an investor. I think you

[01:29] email us all the time, don't you, Bett?

[01:30] I think I see those emails.

[01:31] >> Annoying, Blake.

[01:32] >> Yeah. No, no, don't worry about it.

[01:34] Don't worry about it. I'm sorry we can't

[01:36] respond to all emails. We get a lot of

[01:37] them. I try to respond to some when I

[01:39] can. Um, but no, thank you for being

[01:41] such an interested supporter. So, so

[01:44] invested, you know, morally as well. Uh

[01:47] yeah, that's you know that's a a very

[01:49] good question and I'm glad you've asked

[01:51] it because it is it is a tough thing to

[01:53] navigate and you can see how we've

[01:57] we've worked around it because there's a

[01:59] lot of things that are so vile, so hate

[02:04] driven. So I mean just so loopy. It has

[02:07] certainly been the opinion of a lot of

[02:09] us here that it's just it's not

[02:10] productive to engage with. You're only

[02:12] giving oxygen to a fire. But I think

[02:16] it's also true after two months clearly,

[02:19] >> you know, it has not caused them to just

[02:21] go away. There's still

[02:23] >> I mean, there's people who are harassing

[02:24] Mikey. There's people harassing other

[02:26] members of our team and a lot of that's

[02:29] just

[02:30] >> Yeah. Sorry, what was that?

[02:32] >> I just kind of think that they're all

[02:33] children and in order to stop this, you

[02:36] have to smack it down for once. It's

[02:38] enough already.

[02:39] >> You know, you can't keep footing

[02:41] around it. You'll have to say enough

[02:42] with it. we've explained to you that

[02:44] this is what happened. I don't want to

[02:45] hear these lies anymore. I don't if you

[02:48] I don't want to hear you tracing all

[02:49] over whatever Candace is saying or

[02:51] whatever this one's saying. You got to

[02:53] just be firm enough to say enough. We're

[02:54] moving on. This is the way the case is

[02:57] going to go. And you know what? Pray for

[02:59] Charlie and let's get on and try to beat

[03:02] the game cuz we have the midterms

[03:03] coming.

[03:04] >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I don't want to speak

[03:06] up because I'm not Erica. I'm not, you

[03:09] know, the senior people at Turning

[03:11] Point. I technically don't have a

[03:12] position in Turning Point. I'm only with

[03:13] the show. So, I don't want to speak up

[03:15] for anyone else. I get that

[03:16] >> and I don't want to also, like I said,

[03:18] they have preferred we not give oxygen

[03:20] to really wild specific claims unless

[03:22] it's like absolutely necessary for some

[03:24] reason.

[03:25] >> What I have done is I've tried to when I

[03:28] talk about it, I talk about it big

[03:29] picture, which is there's clearly just a

[03:32] part of society that finds conspiracy

[03:35] theories really compelling. I was just

[03:37] talking about this morning.

[03:39] >> You put out a [clears throat] good

[03:39] tweet.

[03:40] >> Yeah. Yeah. I said it this morning. I'll

[03:41] just repeat some of it here where you

[03:43] see how these things work. First of all,

[03:45] people get more attached to the idea of

[03:47] some conspiracy existing than any

[03:49] specific narrative. So, they can swap in

[03:52] new things. Like, they'll throw out some

[03:53] wild idea, something obviously debunks

[03:55] it, and they just instantly slot in a

[03:58] new thing that is as crazy or even

[04:00] crazier, and they don't really pause to

[04:02] think about it. Uh, people love to say,

[04:04] "I'm just asking questions." And okay,

[04:07] it's true, you can ask questions about

[04:08] things, but what is often the case is

[04:11] they're not actually that interested in

[04:13] answers. So, you know, people ask the

[04:15] question, "Oh, was he was he on the

[04:17] phone when the shooting happened?"

[04:19] >> The answer is no. And okay,

[04:24] >> then that I guess that answer they it

[04:26] turns out they weren't terribly

[04:27] interested in an answer to that

[04:28] question.

[04:29] >> Yeah, he wasn't on the phone.

[04:30] >> Yeah. just a loss

[04:32] >> just a loss of sort of basic thinking on

[04:36] a lot of things so many things it's like

[04:38] even if this was the case who cares so

[04:41] again to use the one that we've talked

[04:42] about on the show because I think we've

[04:43] confronted that like if Mikey was on the

[04:46] phone with someone

[04:48] what like he wasn't again he was not but

[04:52] if he was like what oh the the

[04:55] conspiracy required that someone be 20

[04:57] ft away from Charlie so they could they

[04:59] could call it to say that it's done like

[05:02] this thing that was happening in front

[05:04] of hundreds of cameras. It's it defies

[05:07] rational thought which shows that so

[05:08] much of this is not happening for

[05:10] rational reasons and that's why you

[05:12] can't really debunk it. You can only you

[05:15] can respond to it but I try when I

[05:17] respond I try to just show that we're

[05:19] aware of this. We're not ignoring it but

[05:22] you also have to recognize it's not

[05:23] really defeatable through rational

[05:26] means. You just have to show. Yeah. Like

[05:28] you said, we're focused on what matters,

[05:30] which is winning elections, which is

[05:32] winning young people, which is

[05:34] converting people, pursuing the

[05:35] religious revival, doing the things

[05:37] Charlie cared about. And Charlie

[05:39] >> would be very distressed if we were just

[05:41] endlessly fighting weird conspiracy

[05:43] theories instead of

[05:45] >> doing the causes he gave his life for.

[05:47] >> And we do have Mikey on. If uh Mike, you

[05:50] have anything to say.

[05:51] >> Hi, Bernardet. How are you?

[05:53] >> How are you? You look wonderful.

[05:55] >> Good. I'm so sorry

[05:56] >> for those of you guys who do not

[05:59] >> Thank you, Bernardet. I Charlie loved

[06:01] you. And for those of you who don't know

[06:05] >> behind the scenes, Bernardet always

[06:08] would bring a gift to Charlie twice a

[06:10] year at our

[06:11] >> I see it right behind you. There's the

[06:14] football.

[06:14] >> There's one behind me and then there's

[06:16] one in his office which is the Michael

[06:18] Jordan basketball which was one of his

[06:20] highlights. So Bernardet, you are always

[06:21] such a good friend to Charlie. But I

[06:24] don't want you to feel

[06:26] >> I don't want you to feel hurt by all

[06:28] these horrible things. We know that you

[06:30] have a responsibility. You're a young

[06:31] man

[06:32] >> and I just want you to take a deep

[06:34] breath. Like I said, you know what? Let

[06:36] them spin their conspiracy theories.

[06:38] You're a good kid. You were had

[06:40] instructions to call Erica. Charlie had

[06:42] a team that jumped right in there. I

[06:45] know that team. And we just got to move

[06:48] on. We got to push the moving on and

[06:50] let's get to these midterms. Yeah,

[06:53] >> that's right. Thank you, Bernardet. I

[06:54] just I It's It's crazy. It's just I I

[06:58] remember taking the last picture I took

[06:59] of Charlie was at 12:23.

[07:02] >> Yes.

[07:02] >> Right before he was shot and I just I

[07:04] took that picture. My phone was already

[07:06] in my hand. I plugged my ears. People

[07:07] thought I was on a phone call. I wasn't.

[07:09] But

[07:09] >> I I did in fact call Erica momentarily

[07:12] afterwards. But thank you, Bernardet.

[07:14] That's very encouraging to hear from

[07:15] you. you be encouraged and you keep

[07:17] going cuz we need you and we need that

[07:20] team to take a deep breath and get your

[07:22] pants on and get running.

[07:24] >> Right.

[07:25] >> Thank you, Bernardet. God bless you. Now

[07:27] I'm just thinking of the the occasional

[07:28] times.

[07:29] >> See you guys in Marago.

[07:30] >> Get your pants on. I'm just thinking of

[07:31] the occasional times Charlie was like a

[07:33] nice shirt with like shorts on. He was

[07:35] he would occasionally have Not often.

[07:37] Not often, but it was a thing.

[07:38] >> No. But he said this too shall pass, so

[07:40] get it going.

[07:42] >> Right.

[07:43] >> Yes. Yes.

[07:44] >> Okay. God bless you, boys. And you know

[07:46] what? We always got your back.

[07:48] >> All right, we we have a we have a minute

[07:50] until

[07:51] >> Got it. Bye, Mikey.

[07:52] >> But yeah, I just I I just want to

[07:53] reaffirm, you know, Mikey, obviously you

[07:55] faced way more attention than I have or

[07:58] anyone else here has the last few weeks.

[07:59] We are all 100% behind you. This is

[08:02] gross. This is dumb. Uh and but as

[08:05] Bernardet said, "This shall