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Candace Owens Exposes Turning Point USA's Fabricated Super Bowl Halftime Show Viewership Numbers and Righteous Gemstones Operation
Candace Owens dismantles Turning Point USA's claim of 6 million concurrent YouTube viewers for their alternative Super Bowl halftime show, comparing the impossible metrics to actual top YouTube streams like the World Cup and India's moon mission. She calls out Andrew Kolvet and the organization for what she terms "crony capitalism" and purchased reality, drawing parallels to the HBO series The Righteous Gemstones. Owens also reveals explosive new leads in the Charlie Kirk investigation, including a potential connection between Erika Kirk's best friend Tracy Martin and a high-ranking Border Patrol official named Thomas Martin who has scrubbed his online presence, while presenting evidence that Tracy had a "bad feeling" about the UVU event on September 10th.
The Super Bowl Halftime Culture War
The Super Bowl halftime show created what internet culture calls "go slop" - a forced choice between teams. Americans were supposed to either support Bad Bunny and the NFL's performance or turn off their televisions and watch Turning Point USA's alternative "all-American" halftime show. According to some voices in the conservative movement, failing to enjoy every moment of the Turning Point performance meant you didn't love Jesus.
Owens clarifies her own position on Super Bowl halftime performances, noting she has never been a conservative stereotype on this issue. She defended Rihanna's 2023 performance when conservatives claimed she was channeling the devil, and she enjoyed the Shakira and Jennifer Lopez show. When Bad Bunny was announced, she approached it with an open mind despite not knowing his music.
Bad Bunny's Performance: The Good and the Reality
Owens acknowledges the positives of Bad Bunny's performance, particularly praising the set design that resembled a pueblo, a Spanish town with a mercado and bodega. She found it authentic to his experience and reflective of communities throughout America. The performers and dancers clearly rehearsed extensively, and the electrical line concept was clever and fun.
The downside was the language barrier. The performance was almost entirely in Spanish, preventing non-Spanish speakers from emotionally connecting with it. However, Owens points out this isn't Bad Bunny's fault - he was booked, and English is his second language. His music is exclusively in Spanish. The real question is who booked him. According to Owens' research, Jay-Z controls Super Bowl halftime performances in partnership with the NFL, and Jay-Z doesn't speak Spanish.
The raw numbers tell the story of the performance's success: Nielsen estimates 128 million people watched the Super Bowl game, which increased to 135 million viewers during halftime. Seven million additional people tuned in specifically for the halftime show, making it objectively successful by viewership metrics.
Turning Point USA's Impossible Viewership Claims
When Bad Bunny was announced, immediate backlash emerged because he had previously worn a dress - something Owens strongly opposes as emasculation rooted in what she describes as Kabalistic and satanic practices. Because of this controversy, Turning Point USA announced they would produce an alternative all-American Super Bowl halftime show, with President Trump tweeting support and Republicans across the political sphere encouraging people to turn off their TVs.
Nobody actually turned their TVs off. The viewership numbers jumped for the NFL broadcast. But Turning Point USA's claims about their own performance are where things become problematic. Andrew Kolvet stated on air that they saw over 10 million concurrent views across all social channels at one point, and claimed over 20 million total viewers.
Owens, as a YouTuber with over 10 years of experience, calls these numbers impossible fabrications. She walks through the evidence systematically. After the performance allegedly had 6 million concurrent viewers on YouTube, the video showed only 5,839 views with 175 comments but 667,000 likes - metrics that are mathematically impossible and indicate manipulation.
Comparing to Legitimate Top YouTube Streams
To illustrate how absurd Turning Point's claims are, Owens presents the official list of top YouTube streams based on concurrent viewership. The highest was India's moon mission with 8 million concurrent viewers - believable for a nation of 1.5 billion people. Turning Point wants people to believe they came in second place globally.
Positions two through twenty are all World Cup soccer matches - the biggest sport in the world. Brazil versus Croatia in the 2022 World Cup had 6.1 million concurrent viewers. Football is a sport exclusively popular in America, and Turning Point further divided that audience by marketing only to conservatives, yet they claim to have matched or exceeded the World Cup.
Owens compares the suspicious metrics to authentic Turning Point content. When Erika Kirk addressed the nation as a widow after Charlie Kirk's death - a moment when everyone was supportive and watching - that video received 4.1 million views with 36,000 comments. This views-to-comments ratio is legitimate. The halftime show claims over 20 million views but only 46,000 comments, which is statistically impossible.
As another example, Owens' own "Letter to Erika" episode got 3.1 million views with 28,000 comments - nearly the same comment count as a video claiming 20 million views.
Crony Capitalism and Purchased Reality
Owens draws a parallel to the 2024 Democratic primary, where no Democrat voted for Kamala Harris, yet the DNC machine with its massive resources simply declared her the candidate and acted shocked when she lost. Similarly, Turning Point USA now has so much money they believe they can purchase reality itself.
She describes this as the opposite of free markets and meritocracy - it's crony capitalism. People who aren't particularly impressive or smart are suddenly billionaires, with money being thrown at them while smarter, harder-working people struggle. This echoes Tucker Carlson's comments at a conference when he questioned where this money comes from and how these people become wealthy.
Even Tyler Bowyer, who Owens identifies as a sexual deviant and committed homosexual, tweeted about the performance showing two men dancing on each other, claiming Turning Point had one of the largest YouTube concurrent live streams in history. Owens states bluntly: "Everything is fake, a lot of it is gay. These are the righteous gemstones" - referring to the HBO series about corrupt televangelists.
Seth Dillon Testifies Under Oath About the Hamptons Meeting
At a religious liberty commission hearing on anti-Semitism, Seth Dillon of The Babylon Bee testified under oath. Carrie Gress, a Catholic, used the opportunity to press him on multiple topics, first questioning his stance that "Christ is King" can be anti-Semitic depending on context. When she noted that Ben Shapiro fired Owens from Daily Wire after she said "Christ is King," Dillon claimed he never said that phrase was anti-Semitic but does consider Owens an anti-Semite for saying "way worse than that." Gress responded that she listens to Owens daily and has never heard anything anti-Semitic.
Gress then pivoted to asking about the Hamptons meeting. Dillon's testimony contradicted previous clean, buttoned-up statements from attendees. He confirmed there were about 30 people handpicked and invited by Charlie Kirk personally, with the theme being "save the West" and a primary focus on the threat of Islam. However, he admitted there was "heated and spirited debate about the issue of Israel" - a significant admission since previous statements characterized it as merely a "spirited debate."
Dillon acknowledged that Charlie Kirk himself said in that room that not being sufficiently supportive of Israel could be ruinous for someone in his position, and that criticizing Israel would lead people to try to denigrate and destroy you by calling you anti-Semitic. This confirms what Max Blumenthal originally reported and what Owens stated: Charlie was being pressed by Zionists about his shifting position on Israel, things got heated, and Charlie was stressed.
Dillon then claimed Owens "lied about a situation like that and tried to portray it as though the Jews were trying to blackmail Charlie," resulting in death threats. He stated that Owens put his face on a movie poster for "I Know What You Did Last Summer," suggesting he had a role in Charlie's murder, which led to someone trying to kill him and his family.
The Truth About What Happened in the Hamptons
Owens responds by pointing out the absurdity of claiming victimhood over a humorous thumbnail. She never said anyone was blackmailed - Charlie Kirk himself used the term "morally blackmailed" to describe how he felt about his position on Israel. Clips exist of Charlie speaking about feeling morally blackmailed.
Initially, Seth Dillon and others characterized the Hamptons meeting as a lovely, spirited debate. Now under oath, he admits it got heated. Owens asks why it would get heated if Charlie's position on Israel wasn't shifting. If he just loved Israel and everyone agreed, why the heated argument?
Everything Owens reported was true: it got heated, Charlie was pressed, he was stressed about what happened, and this stress spilled over into his conversation with Megyn Kelly. Both Kelly and Tucker Carlson told the truth about how Charlie was feeling. Owens also confirms that Benjamin Netanyahu did call, which Erika Kirk denies but Andrew Kolvet has acknowledged by saying Netanyahu offered to take Turning Point to the next level.
Charlie Kirk was so done with Israel that he didn't even want Netanyahu on his radio show when the Israeli Prime Minister was doing podcast rounds. The only reason to lie about all this, Owens argues, is because there's something to hide - it feels like motive. An honest person would say, "Yeah, I got into an argument with him. I wish that wasn't the last time I saw him."
Owens can now confirm that on June 18th, Charlie Kirk went to the White House and went head-to-head with Benjamin Netanyahu and his associates who wanted more American military action in Iran. Charlie argued that the base would hate this and convinced Trump to keep it as a limited operation - what became Operation Midnight Hammer. Tucker Carlson spoke about how Charlie stood up for Americans and their promise of no wars. The very next day, June 19th, Erika Kirk purged 126 posts from her Instagram.
Major Break in the Investigation: Thomas Martin Connection
Mitch Snow, who dealt with the full force of Andrew and Erika's PR machine after they dug up his past and claimed he was a habitual liar, has not moved his story one inch. He remains certain he saw Erika Kirk on the evening of January 8th at Fort Huachuca leaving a hotel with a Kash Patel lookalike. After seeing Erika, he claims he stumbled upon what appeared to be the conclusion of a military briefing before a mission in a borrowed building used by the Joint Task Force Southern Border Unit.
Owens introduces Tracy Martin, Erika's best friend for over 15 years. They've done everything together - Tracy runs Romanian Angels, Erika modeled for her clothing brands, and their families are close. Tracy is also close to Erika's stepfather's family. Owens had trouble learning anything about Tracy's husband, Thomas Martin, which was unusual given his build that looks military-esque.
A potentially explosive tip came in: There is a Director of US Border Patrol and Chief of Staff of the Southern Command in Tucson named Thomas Martin. He's been based in Tucson since at least the 1980s when he was just an agent at the border, steadily climbing the ladder. This Thomas Martin has gone through great lengths to completely wipe his public presence. His LinkedIn profile shows "Thomas Martin, Director, US Border Patrol, location: greater Tucson area" but clicking it leads nowhere. Zoom Info shows he was Deputy Chief Patrol Agent at the Department of Homeland Security - the same department for which Erika's mother has extensive contracts.
Owens found Thomas Martin mentioned in a 1985 lawsuit reported in the Times Union. The article discusses the Sanctuary Movement trial, where a man picked up a hitchhiker and began smuggling humans across the border and hiding them in churches. Pastors and priests from Southside Presbyterian Church, along with Roman Catholic priests, a nun, and six church lay workers, were going on trial in Tucson for concealing illegal aliens.
Agent Thomas Martin wrote to his superiors arguing they shouldn't invade these churches because it would become a talking point that the US government thinks nothing of breaking down church doors to "drag Jesus Christ out to be tortured and murdered." This Thomas Martin has been living in the Tucson area for decades, at least until 2011 when records show him working with Southern Command.
Owens clarifies this is not Thomas G. Martin who works in Border Patrol in Buffalo, New York - that's a different person. She requests tips about the Tucson-based Thomas Martin at moretips@candaceowens.com.
Tracy Martin's Premonition About September 10th
Owens received a solid tip that Tracy's daughter is actually Erika's assistant. Most shockingly, Owens has text messages from September 11th showing that Tracy told friends her daughter was supposed to be at UVU on September 10th, but Tracy had a bad feeling about it. Erika's best friend had a divine intuition that her daughter shouldn't go to UVU, so she stopped her from going.
If Tracy had such a strong premonition that she prevented her own daughter - who may be Erika's assistant - from attending, why didn't she share this warning with Erika about Charlie not going? Why didn't the assistant mention to Erika that her mother said she shouldn't go because something bad might happen? Then something bad did happen. Tracy's intuition was correct, but only her daughter was protected from it.
Owens concludes: "I don't know what's going on, but I know that it is not what they are telling us is going on."
Street Light Interference and Charlie Kirk
Some people tried to make an issue of Owens mentioning that lights would flicker around Charlie Kirk, calling her a witch. Both she and Erika Kirk have confirmed this phenomenon in their recollections. Owens points out this is a real condition called SLI (Street Light Interference), a documented phenomenon where people claim to cause street lights to turn off or flicker upon approach. It's also associated with photosensitive epilepsy, where seizures are triggered by flashing, strobing, and flickering lights.
Many people in the comments of Owens' episode about the GATE program shared similar experiences. Owens also addresses criticism about discussing Charlie's "third eye," clarifying that Charlie spoke to her about this in 2018 and she has it in writing. The conversation, which she interprets in the context of the pineal gland rather than anything demonic, was part of what ultimately brought Charlie to the Christian faith after he had a bad experience with a coach or spiritual advisor he was working with at the time.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Monday. As you know, the Super Bowl was last night. And look, this is what the kids are terming go slop. What that means is that you were supposed to pick a side. Pick a side. Whose side are you on? Were you team Bad Bunny? If so, you're supposed to come out and away hating the racist right. Maybe you were uh team Turning Point USA. Did you oblige and turn off your television sets, open your laptops, and watch the alternative halftime performance? Which the word on the street is if you did not enjoy it, if you did not enjoy every moment of it, then it's because you don't love Jesus. Of course. Of course. Every single time. That's the new turning point talking point. Uh so, welcome back to Candace. Okay, so you guys can actually check the records on this one. I am not, nor have I ever been a conservative stereotype when it comes to the Super Bowl halftime performance. I feel like it's a bit of a fad now on the right. You watch the Super Bowl for the sole purpose of complaining about the halftime performance and why it didn't live up to what you think that it should be. I notoriously defended Rihanna back in 2023 when she was literally just wearing red and conservatives made it seem like she was trying to channel the devil. She was actually pregnant and wasn't even moving around that much. Uh I'm also a Shakira stand so I thought her and JLo had a fun halftime performance. I'm not really one of these people who are naturally averse to culture. I also like and listen to Spanish music as you guys know Mark Anthony. That's why I had to come out for my boy uh when they were saying stuff about him and what he did at a wedding after 11 p.m. No, he should not be responsible for that as Latino man. I like the old school stuff. Uh Aventura uh the old Mark Anthony music. I grew up listening to all of it. So, when Bad Bunny was announced for the Super Bowl, I was like, "Okay, let's see what he does." I do not know one Bad Bunny song. I'm going to be honest. I've been very clear with you guys. I am not cool or hip anymore, just like I don't know any of Sabrina Carpenters's music. I'm not trying to stay up with the culture, but I know enough to know that he's very popular. Okay. Now, um the pros of his performance, going to say something good about it. Uh, I actually thought the the set design was really cool. It's it was one of the cooler ones that I've seen in a very long time. I loved that it looked like a little pueblo, little Spanish town that the Mercto, the bodega. And to be clear, it I think it felt obviously very authentic to him and how he grew up, but not just to him and how he grew up, but also in America. If you guys don't know that, this is how a lot like that looks familiar to me and the way that I grew up, like you know the uh the corner of Bodega. It's a it's a real thing. And I thought very obviously uh that that's what he was trying to convey is his own experience because that's what artists do. Um and by the way, like I said, all around the United States, these communities exist. The performers and the dancers did a very great job. You could tell that they rehearsed a lot. They were not just winging it. And I actually quite enjoyed the little electrical line thing that they were doing. I thought it was clever and it was fun. Now, the downside is that it was not in English. It was not in English and therefore the audience could not emotionally connect. If you were not a Spanish speaker, you could not emotionally connect to that performance. It was really all in Spanish save for uh Lady Gaga's portion when she was sort of doing the Bad Salsa, which was very American. You know, she wasn't exactly Hips Don't Lion. And uh I was like, "Okay, now is that Bad Bunny's fault?" Obviously not because he was booked and he is very clear English is his second language. If you watch his interviews he kind of speaks Spanglish. He's learning more English now. His music is exclusively in Spanish. So the expectation who who are you actually upset with for booking his performance? I agree that it would be nice to have um an Englishspeaking halftime. That makes sense because every the majority everyone actually in America should speak English. But he didn't book himself. Okay. Actually, I looked into it. The person that controls who gets to perform at the halftime is Jay-Z. For some reason, Jay-Z in partnership with the NFL, Jay-Z doesn't speak Spanish, but Jay-Z booked him. And for a very long time, it's been clear that Jay-Z's got some sort of a relationship with the feds. I tend to believe a lot of the stuff that Kanye said. And so, like I said, this feels a bit like let's get both sides waring with one another. Now, in terms of whether or not this was a successful performance, well, we'll just look at the raw numbers here. Neielson estimates that 128 million people watched the Super Bowl game last night, forgetting the halftime performance. That number increased to 135 million viewers during the halftime performance. So, people got up and were like, I don't want to watch the, you know, I'm not watching the whole uh Super Bowl match, but I'm going to go ahead and tune in to the halftime performance because people are always outraged the next morning. and I want to know what they're speaking about. So, seven million more people began tuning in to watch the halftime performance according to the early reports. So, Bad Bunny objectively, whether you like him or not, he had a successful Super Bowl halftime performance in terms of the metrics. This means uh that the I would say unnecessary Super Bowl political lines that were drawn by Turning Point USA was not successful in terms of drawing people away from the NFL's viewership. Now, in case you missed it, when Bad Bunny was announced, there was immediately backlash because he has worn a dress. Something that I am very against because to me it is obvious why they find these men and they put him in dresses. This gets into theology regarding which he's probably not aware of. If I'm being honest, if I sat down with Bad Bunny and I spoke to him about where this comes from and why they are putting him in a dress to emasculate him, he's not recognizing this as somebody else's faith. It is. I find it to be wrong. Um it is in essence cobalistic and satanic. We've discussed that. But this is the reason that people were immediately outraged. So everyone was saying, "Oh, it's very obvious what he's going to do. He's going to make the show unnecessarily gay." And because of that, Turning Point USA announced that they would produce an alternative quote unquote all-American Super Bowl halftime show. and President Trump tweeted. They had very uh people all across political sphere on the Republican side were tweeting about, "Hey, turn your TV off." No, nobody turned their TV off. We can say no one did that actually. The numbers jumped. Okay, but this was their reason that they went into this. Now, Bad Bunny did not in fact wear a dress at the Super Bowl. He didn't, which like I said, I'm very against that. Um I I don't think we should be intentionally emasculating men. So, that leaves us with Turning Point USA's performance. Now, we should be clear, it was a pre-record, okay? So, Bad Bunny was performing live. Turning point USA pre-recorded, I think a couple of weeks ago. Um, and so they had time to edit and to present this. Now, I'm going to park aside the artists who actually performed. Uh, Kid Rock, Lee Bryce. I actually want to be clear, I love Lee Bryce's music. I went to a Lee Bryce concert here in town. So, this is not meant to be a commentary on them, but rather at the audacity of what Turning Point USA did as an organization. Turning Point USA is effectively now running Camala Harris's presidential campaign. Okay. Uh, no one, no Democrat voted for Camala Harris, voted for Biden, and then they just said, "Here, uh, now you get Camala, and we're running her against Donald Trump." But Democrats had to accept that because the DNC machine just had so much money, and they were like, "We're just going to make her a thing. That's it." and they ignored the true metrics and just said this is it and then they acted a gasast and shocked when Kamala Harris did not win. Turning Point USA now has so much money that they believe that similarly they can afford to outright purchase reality. They want you to believe this is unbelievable. I'm going to walk you through how absurd this is. That when they aired this halftime performance, 6 million concurrent viewers tuned in. Just so you understand what that means. 6 million people at the same time were watching this around the world. That's what concurrent viewership means. So, they decided to tune in to this Super Bowl halftime performance. And I want you to listen to to that straight from Andrew Kovvat's mouth. Let's bring that clip in, Don, if if you can. >> Andrew, I watched your show. It was great. How did you do? Do you have a sense in how many people watched? >> Yeah. Uh, it was a kind of blew our minds actually a little bit, Brian. And we, you know, we saw at one point across all the different social channels, we saw over 10 million concurrent views. So, that was adding up all of Rumble and all of uh our partners uh just on the social side. So, and now we the numbers keep trickling in. I mean, right now as I'm sitting here, YouTube's numbers keep updating, keep updating, and uh so we're trying to put it all together. What I can safely say is that we are now over 20 million viewers across just social. So, we haven't even gotten our our partner broadcasters uh their analytics. As you know, sometimes the ratings take a little while, but that's 20 million uh viewers. And we don't know how many people were gathered together, three, four, 10 in a room watching together. So, we're we're going to try and put our a final number on that when we can. What we can safely say is over 20 million Americans tuned in to the All-American halftime show tonight. >> That's what he can safely say. Now, for people who have been on YouTube, YouTubers so to speak, like myself, for more than 10 years, I was just in awe that they were going to try to to sell this, that they were going to do what he did with his face and just lie and pretend that 6 million uh I think he even at one point says 10 million, but he says 6 million concurrent viewers they had on YouTube alone. Okay, if you know YouTube at all, that's just not true on its It's actually I laughed when I saw I was like, this is this is actually crazy. I can't believe they're actually going to try to pull this off. And I'm going to walk you through this. So, you don't even have to have um my background on YouTube to understand why this number is impossible. First and foremost, you can just do this test. What do we have right now? We have 95,000 people that are watching this show. As soon as this show concludes, I want you to see how many views uh YouTube is going to instantly give it right away. It's probably going to be something like 200,000 to 300,000 views right away as it continues to tabulate. This is a screenshot of their viewership after 6 million people tuned in concurrently at the exact same time. So that six million people watching like we have 95,000 people watching right now on YouTube. as soon as they finished. Look at the that 5,839 views um with 175 comments. That is an impossible metric. But 667,000 likes, this is made up. But again, like I said, maybe you're not familiar with how YouTube works. So allow me to present it to you another way so you can really drill into your head how despicable this organization has become. Uh and there just no association with the truth. So, I'm going to present to you now the official list of the top YouTube streams based off of concurrent viewership. We're going to go through this list so that you fully appreciate what you are being asked to believe. Everything is a rich man's trick. That's what's happening right now. This is the highest live concurrent viewers on YouTube. These were the events. Um, number one was in India. That is a a nation of 1.5 billion people. They had a moon mission and 8 million people in India tuned into it. That is believable. Okay. Turning Point wants you to believe that they're number two now. Okay. The next two through 20 are all proper football, meaning soccer in America events. Uh you can see it's it's the World Cup, which is it is the biggest sport in the world. And when people streamed it, it looks like the 2022 World Cup comes into the second spot. Brazil versus Croatia. When it was streamed on YouTube, 6.1 million people tuned in. Again, this is the biggest sport in the world, soccer. They're trying to tell us that football, which only has a hold in America, this is a sport literally for America. And then Turning Point USA comes and they divide the fans by saying, "We're doing just a conservative halftime sport." So they even have their potential uh to appeal to half of the football people that are watching football. And then on top of that, the people who are divided because they just don't like what Turning Point USA has become since Charlie was assassinated and that their l their loose association, their loose relationship with the truth since Charlie was assassinated. They want you to believe that in spite of all of that, they are now they're they're number two. They broke the record. So bye-bye football around the world. It's now Turning Point USA. 6 million people turned in live to watch their their Kid Rock and Lee Bryce and um there was a couple of other artists that were involved with performance pre-recorded performance. Okay. Now, my understanding in looking at this is that this is it. They're going to force they're going to force Erica on us. Like I said, this is the Camala thing. There's absolutely nothing we can do about it. We just got our hands up. We are literally victims here. They have the money. They have the power. and we're going to shut up and and we're going to take it and we're going to have to accept this audacious polling. We're it's going to be Andrew Coat up on Fox News. Like, it's amazing. She is more popular than Cristiano Ronaldo. It's They just The internet loves it. YouTube loves her and we're amazed that we pulled this thing off. That's the vibe. Okay, we no longer live in a barrier. And Turning Point USA are effectively the righteous gemstones. Now, if you don't like Erica, then it's because you don't like Jesus. If you don't like what Turning Point's Become, it's because you do not like Jesus. This is our new purchased reality. And I want to really drive this point home to you uh to I can't even think of how many times I could underscore how absurd what they presented here is. And as a YouTuber, this offends me. People who actually put in hard work, try to produce a show, you should be offended by this. Okay, I would guess that the most authentically watched event for Turning Point USA's YouTube page happened right after Charlie Cook got assassinated. Remember Erica first addressed the nation and she did this in Charlie's studio. Nobody, everyone was rooting for her in this moment um waiting to see what she was going to say as the widow. If you go online right now, her address as a widow to the nation has 4.1 million views on Charlie Kirk's YouTube channel. It also has 36,000 comments. Okay, so 4 million views, 36,000 comments. If you know YouTube, that's right. They didn't fake that. That's real. I want you to compare that to the Turning Point halftime show, which just like Biden's vote in 2020 when we slept, um, a bunch of more views came in on YouTube. He just they they were like people were like I love it even more in the middle of the night. Um that now has over 20 million views and yet only 46,000 comments. It's impossible. It's just it's it's literally made up. Like I said, you know that the Erica address is an authentic representation of views because of the views to comments ratio. I'll give you an example. My last episode, Letter to Erica on YouTube that got 3.1 million views. It has 28,000 comments, so almost too close for a 20 million view video. Now, why does this actually matter? Why am I spending time uh speaking to you about this? Because it is such a perfect analogy for what this organization has become, wealthy, corrupt, and dishonest. just to our faces. It It is to me so reminiscent of everything Tucker said when he got onto stage at SAS, when the donors, the Jewish donors got angry, when he questioned exactly where this money is coming from, how these people are becoming billionaires, people that are not impressive, that are not smart, are suddenly, we just learned that they're billionaires. Money is being thrown at them and there are people who are smarter than them, who work harder than them. And he is essentially saying we no longer live in a meritocracy meritocracy. This is just a fiction, a total fiction. And I also want to stress here that what upsets me about it is it's exactly everything that Charlie Kirk hated. When we were hitting the ground, we were talking about the need for free markets. This is not an example of the free markets. This is an example of crony capitalism. It's corny capitalism. They're just you're going to take it. This is what we we're we're we're bigger than Christian Ronaldo. We don't know why. It's just al you had like uh Alex Clark shamelessly tweeting everyone said we were over. But look at this. 100 million views. It's just fiction. So fiction that even Tyler Boyer, who happens to be a sexual deviant and also a committed homosexual part-time, is tweeting this out from Bad Bunny's performance. He actually tweeted this. Why is Turning Point USA? um and and it's he wrote why Turning Point USA ended up with one of the largest YouTube concurrent live streams in history tonight and he shows something he probably likes if I'm guessing um this moment of two men dancing on each other and of all people to to tweet this it's Tyler Ber it is Tyler Ber everything is fake a lot of it is gay these again are the righteous gemstones and we are looking at to me fake Christianity it's it's it's like Christianity Inc. Which brings us back to Fort Wuka. By the way, something big for you. You will recall that Mitch Snow, the man who had to deal with the full brunt of Andrew and Erica's PR machine. Um, they were digging up his past, claiming that he was a habitual liar. Mitch was certain. He was certain, and I want to be clear, he also hasn't moved his story since, not one inch. He was certain that he saw Erica Kirk on the evening of the 8th at Fort Wuga leaving a hotel with a Cabbat Phillips lookalike. He has not adopted he has not adapted that story. Um despite the undue harassment that he received in particular after seeing Erica on the evening of the ETH, he claims that he stumbled upon what appeared to him to be the conclusion of a military briefing right before a mission taking place in a borrowed building site for the joint task force, the Southern Border Unit. and he was a border unit and he was surprised. He saw a guy wearing the JTF thing. I think he said it was JTF 10, the 10th Mount Mountain Brigade. He's like, "Oh, where are you guys? I thought this was like disbanded. I used to be on this this same task force, southern border." And they're like, "No, actually, we're in this building." And you should know that the that joint task force initially was formed in Tucson, Arizona. Well, here is a rather explosive lead. And I'm going to say this is a lead. I'm going to cage this. It's a possibility that this does not pan out, but I'm putting this out here because I'd like a confir confirmation one way or the other. Last week, we introduced you guys to Tracy Martin. Remember, Tracy Martin is Erica's best friend for over 15 years. How close are Erica and Tracy? They've done everything together. Tracy says Romanian Angels. Uh Erica modeled for her clothing brands. Uh all of it. These two and their families are close. She's also close to Lorie. Um, and she's close to Erica's stepfather's family. If if pictures are telling us the right story, and I told you guys last week that I was having trouble learning anything about Tracy's husband, a man named Thomas Martin. It was unusual to me. He's got quite a build. He looks kind of military-esque to me, but they are also involved in fitness. They ran gyms. Well, we received this interesting tip, and I'm going to again stress that it is just a tip at this moment, but it's potentially explosive. There is a director of US Border Patrol, also chief of staff uh of the Southern Command in Tucson named Thomas Martin. He's been based in Tucson, Arizona since at least the 80s when he was just an agent down at the border. Uh and he has steadily climbed up the ladder. Uh, but this particular Thomas Martin has gone through great lengths to completely wipe his public presence. I'm going to show you the what's left of the LinkedIn link. You can actually click it. You can see it says Thomas Martin, director, US Border Patrol, uh, experience lo location, greater Tucson area. Uh, okay. We we click that that just is disappeared. Okay. Same looking at Zoom info, we were again able to find this sort of relic. We found that he was deputy chief patrol agent at the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Homeland Security for which we know Erica Kirk's mother also is involved extensive contracts with the Department of Homeland Security. Uh says that he's been in Customs and Border Protection for 9 years. I'm assuming that's going to continue with the Department of Homeland Security, but again, we don't know because this has been wiped. Okay. And uh so I started crawling through some newspapers trying to find this person's face. Interestingly enough, we know uh like I said, he's been stationed in Tucson, Arizona, that Thomas Martin on Border Patrol at least since 1985. We know this because he was actually mentioned in a lawsuit as a young agent, a lawsuit. And the the content of this lawsuit is impressive. This is an old newspaper article again from October 21st, 1985. It appeared in the Times Union and it says, "The sanctuary movement is on trial. It tells us the story of this guy who um picked up a hitchhiker and there a movement was born and to begin smuggling humans across the border and hiding them into churches. I kid you not. Kid you not. It tells us that these pastors as well as priests were working together. Southside Presbyterian Church, two Roman Catholic priests, a nun, and si six church lay workers were all going on trial in Tucson for concealing illegal aliens. And um this nice mention that we get of Thomas Martin, we learn that Thomas, agent Thomas Martin of the Border Patrol was writing to his superiors. Essentially, the argument that he's making is we act we shouldn't invade these churches because then it's going to become a talking point that oh look at the big bad like you know ICE agents that are invading churches and we shouldn't do that. So, I'm going to direct quote because he testified and it he said um he wrote to his superiors, quote, "A ploy is going to be border patrol baiting in order to demonstrate to the public that the US government thinks nothing of breaking down the doors of their churches to drag Jesus Christ out to be tortured and murdered." So, he's saying if we do this, it's going to be, if I'm to understand this, it's going to be a talking point. So, he's making the argument that we shouldn't do it or it's going to be a talking point again. Where is this Thomas Martin? And I want to be clear because you guys send tips. This is not Thomas G. Martin. If you're doing a basic search and finding another Thomas Martin who works in Border Patrol up in Buffalo, New York, his name is Thomas G. Martin. That is not the same Thomas Martin that has been in Tucson. We've obviously already investigated the obvious lead there. Uh, please do not send us any tips about Buffalo, New York, and the other Thomas Martin. But regarding this one, please do. Please do send us tips to uh tips uh more tips, pardon, canowens.com because we'd like to know maybe somebody worked with this Thomas Martin. Again, we know that he's been living in the Tucson area for decades, decades, at least up until 2011. I can find a record of him um working with the Southern Command and that is interesting. Lastly, I've also received a solid tip. This is shocking that Tracy's daughter is actually Erica's assistant. I'll put in allegedly there because we've got to confirm that information, but um the source knows these people. And remarkably, this is the shocking part, and this I don't have to put in allegedly because I have text messages from September 11th. Tracy told friends that her daughter possibly Erica's assistant was supposed to be at UVU on September 10th, but Tracy had a bad feeling about it. Wait, Erica's best friend, had a bad feeling about what was going to happen on September 10th. Yep. And so, she stopped her daughter, Erica's assistant, from going. Tracy had a divine intuition that her daughter should not go to UVU, but she didn't share that with Erica about maybe maybe she should have said her husband shouldn't have gone to UVU. Maybe if you would share that, it's your best friend. Maybe did Erica talk to her alleged assistant about that? Hey, maybe we shouldn't go. Uh my mom's saying I shouldn't go because she has a bad feeling something bad's going to happen and then something bad does happen. And it's like, you know, thank God Tracy didn't send her daughter because she had a bad intuition. But did she share that with Erica? Does that sound right to you guys? Is that tracking for you guys at all? Look, I don't know what's going on, but I know that it is not what they are telling us is going on. Okay, I'll leave it at that. We will take a quick break and be back after some sponsors. All right, you guys. Thanks to you. Last year, Preborn helped rescue over 80,000 babies. And today, you can help save even more. Every single day, thousands of women hear the same devastating lie. That abortion is their only option, that they're alone, and that there's actually no hope. But everything changes the moment a mother in crisis walks into a pre-born network clinic and sees her baby on an ultrasound. That one moment doubles her chance of choosing life. 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I had mentioned to you guys a while ago that on June 19th, Erica purged her Instagram of a lot of pictures, 126 posts she deleted. And I had wondered what drove that. Why would you delete 126 posts off of your Instagram page? And when I did my master timeline, I realized that this was the time when things were really heating up with Israel and Iran. I had mentioned that to you in the past. And I had wondered to myself if she had moved to do that after Charlie beat BB Netany and Yahoo in a debate and all of his his Zionist thugs at the White House and he had convinced Trump that he should have uh just a limited military ex not exercise a li limited military operation in Iran which ended up being operation midnight hammer. Well, I can now confirm that the date that Charlie went to the White House went to the White House and went up like toe-to-toe with BB Net and Yahoos and his thugs who wanted more action in Iran and he won was on June 18th. So to make that very clear, on June 18th, Charlie goes headtohead with the Zionists and BBNet and Yahoo who are trying to convince Trump that there needs to be more um more action in Iran, that America should get behind. Obviously, Charlie's in there saying like the base is going to hate this. Don't do that. That's a very bad idea. And Charlie wins. Tucker spoke about that. You can go find the clips of Tucker speaking about the fact that Charlie spoke up for America. Really spoke up for Americans and said, "Don't do this. You know, you promised no wars. Keep this as a limited operation." That's June 18th. The very next day on June 19th, Erica purges her Instagram. She deletes 126 posts. I I had wondered if that was the way it went, that uh Charlie pissed off BB and then Erica purged her Instagram. I don't know what to make of that, but I wanted to give you guys that data point um which is from our master timeline. Okay, switching gears here. Not entirely. Something else that's on our master timeline is of course this this Hampton's thing which it was so strange. There were so many lies that came out of this. Me also credit to Max Blumenthal broke this story that Charlie had had this as we had described it a very heated confrontation um and he was being pushed by Zionists about his shifting support for Israel. They all came out and gave these clean buttoned up statements saying that wasn't true. It described it as oh we were it was just like you know tossing some ideas to him and Charlie said well it was just like a spirited debate they said and I said no Max Blumenthal said no as well that's not what went down in the Hamptons. No they were pressing Charlie. He was stressed out by it and things got heated. He was being yelled at. They always disputed this narrative. Well enter in this hero Carrie Peen Bowler. Um and she's she is Catholic. I'm going to state that because it's just Catholic ganging right now. This morning there was a religious liberty commission hearing on anti-semitism and Seth Dylan gets up there of the Babylon B. He was the chief him and Natasha were the chiefs of pressing Charlie uh Charlie in the Hamptons. Okay. And Seth Dylan's just supposed to be the funny guy testifying from the Babylon about the rise of anti-semitism and what are we going to do? And Carrie took it as an opportunity since he's under oath. When you testify, you're actually under oath to ask him about a variety of topics. First and foremost, she presses him because he was also one of the chiefs of Christ as King is anti-Semitic. And she questions him on that perspective. Let's take a listen to what she had to say. >> On their social media platform, would you label that an anti-semitic if you're looking into the context of what they're saying or if they just say it Christ is king? Like >> it could be. You have to look at the context. >> But I would say that's anti-Christian if you're analyzing why I'm saying Christ is king. >> No. Saying saying the phrase Jesus Christ is not taking the Lord's name in vain unless you're doing it in a certain context, right? There's context matters. >> Yeah. So going back to Candace Owens when she worked for Daily Wire, your friend Ben fired her because she said Christ is king. >> And I never said that what she said was anti-semitic. >> Okay. But you're calling her an anti-semite. >> Oh yes, because she said way worse than that. Okay, let's move on because everyone seems to be obsessed with Candace. My last question, why were you at the Hampton? >> Can you can just Why were you at the Hampton? >> Were any Do you think that anything Candace has said is anti-Semitic? >> Um, no, I don't. >> Nothing ever. >> That's interesting. >> I mean, I listen to her daily. >> You should look up more. >> I haven't heard one thing out of her mouth that I would say is anti-Semitic. >> He is just dripping off of him like the evil, the dishonesty. He then goes on to say a bunch of things that I never ever ever said, of course, because they have to just make things up. And he's like, "No, she now says outwardly how what she thinks about Jews, and there's no separation between Zionists and Jews." Yes, there is. Half the time I'm attacking these Christian Zionists for the exact same reason where they're trying to sell to us racial supremacy, which is really just Israeli supremacy, right? Because and telling us that if we don't worship Israel, it's problematic. And gratefully, she gets up and she calls him on that. She's like, "What are you what are you even speaking about?" And so then she, as you see, she's kind of setting the groundwork for it. She decides to move to the topic of the Hamptons. And here is what Seth Dylan had to say. The Hampton's meeting was a retreat called by Charlie. It was it was it was uh I don't know if many of you are familiar with this. So, I give you a little context, but um there was a claim that was made that an intervention was staged with Charlie where people pulled him into a room um in a very aggressive manner, pressured and blackmailed him because they felt like he was straying away from his support for Israel. That was the claim. The Hampton's uh retreat and that was the Hampton's retreat was characterized that way. It was not like that. There were about 30 people there, handpicked and invited by Charlie personally. He brought us there. He stood at the front of the room with a microphone throughout the thing. Um the theme of it was save the West. His primary focus was on the the threat of Islam, the problem of Islam. Um there was heated and and spirited debate about the issue of Israel in the room, but it was debate that Charlie himself initiated and he wanted to hear different perspectives on it. Uh and so we we voiced a lot of our our perspectives. One of the things that I disagreed with him on was he said that, you know, there's if you're if you don't if you're not sufficiently supportive of Israel, you you it can be um really ruin ruinous for you in a position like his. >> Um if you criticize Israel at all, >> uh they'll try to, you know, denigrate you and destroy you and call you names, call you anti-Semitic, etc. >> Uh and it can it can ruin you. And I I said, you know, yeah, certainly that's that's true, but it can also be very costly to stand up to those people. And I'm I gave the example of my own experience where I criticized not the uh I criticized the critics of Israel and they tried to destroy me. And so, you know, we can all, you know, whine and cry about the consequences of what might happen if we say certain things, but everybody has a right to give their opinion and and say what they think. Um, so there was back and forth like that. Um, but there were many people that came out and made statements afterwards that it was completely mischaracterized. Um, and that was really evil what she did, you know, to lie about a situation like that and try to portray it as though the Jews were trying to blackmail Charlie. That resulted in death threats. >> She never said that. >> She absolutely said that. She put my face on a movie poster for I know what you did last summer suggesting that I had a role in his murder. Like I played a role in his murder. That's why someone tried to kill me and my family and got arrested in Texas. I just love Zionist. No matter what, they can be a victim. She put my name on. She put my face on a thumbnail of I know what you did last summer. An objectively hilarious thing that I did. Go me. That is fantastic. And he wants us to think that it almost led to his murder. They're just such crime. They mass murder children overseas and defend it and explain it away. Zionist, that's actually what's happening. And then you put them on a little thumbnail poster as in I know what you did last summer cuz that's punny. Okay, it is. and we're speaking about the Hamptons and now he's like, "I almost got killed. I almost died. This is so not okay. It's evil." No, what's evil is you lied and now you're adjusting your story. Everybody go back and watch the clips of them discussing what happened in the Hamptons. And she is correct. I never said that he was blackmailed. Charlie described what happened in the Hamptons as he was being morally blackmailed. And by the way, you can find clips of Charlie speaking about how he felt that he was being morally blackmailed over his position on Israel. Those are Charlie's words, not mine. And he felt he was being morally blackmailed because of what Seth Dylan did. So first, Seth Dylan's perspective was it was just a nice lovely spirited debate. Now he's changing this. And he admits that it got heated. Oh, where was that? Why couldn't you couldn't acknowledge that it got heated before, Seth? When we were saying that that was true and that's what happened. And by the way, they never want to touch the fact, even when they all came out, these carefully orchestrated uh legal type statements to be like, "Oh, nothing happened in the Hamptons." No one even wanted to touch the fact that BB Netanyahu called, which I told you happened. Everything I said was true. It got heated. Charlie was being pressed. He was so stressed about what happened in the Hamptons that spilled over into his conversation with Megan Kelly. Kudos to Megan for telling the truth about what how he was feeling. Kudos Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about how he was feeling. They were just, oh no, they told us Charlie never even flinched on Israel. Now he's saying it got heated. Well, why would it get heated? Was this some a mock debate as they tried to present like why would it get heated if if Charlie's position was not shifting? Why would it get heated? Can somebody explain that to me? If he's just he just got heated about how much he loved Israel in the room. He said, "I'm just so angry that people don't get how much I love it. I love it." And Seth was like, "I KNOW." [screaming] AND THEY got angry and hated because they both just loved Israel. That's what they wanted us to believe. It is obnoxious. They lied. They But they feel nothing when they lie. Okay? Just like Josh Hammer. That is Seth Dylan. They all lied about what happened in the Hamptons. It was heated. Charlie was pressed. I said that factually because I had eyewitness reports of exactly what happened. And it is a fact. BB Netanyahu called. Erica says he didn't offer to take Turning Point to the next level. Okay. Okay. Erica. Andrew Kovette says that he did offer to take Turning Point to the to the next level. Uh and now he wants to go back and uh not address that point again because everything I told you was true. Charlie said BB Netany and Yahoo. He didn't even want BB Netanyahu on his radio show. He was so done with Israel. Anybody care to fact check that? Did BB Net and Yahoo reach out to go on Charlie's podcast when he was doing the little the podcast rounds in July or August, whenever it was? Uh the answer is I'm telling the truth. Okay, I am telling the truth. And the only reason they are lying about this in my view is because you only lie when you have something to hide. And it feels like motive. It feels like motive. They're protecting BB and they are protecting this narrative because there's a motive. Otherwise, you just say, "Yeah, I got into an argument with him. Kind of sucked. I wish that wasn't the last time I saw him." If you were an honest person and you had nothing to hide, that's what you would say. I'd say, "Man, I really regret that those are my last words to him. Life is short. It was so stupid. I don't even really care about his opinion on Israel anymore, man. I I just feel terrible. Nope. They all said, "Kenz is a liar." And now we're slowly getting the truth about what got heated. What they were discussing, Charlie feeling, as he even describes it, morally blackmailed, telling him that it's ruinous. If you say anything about Israel, it's suddenly ruinous to your career. And Seth was fired up. Not Josh Hammer. I will say it wasn't Josh Hammer. I got all fired up in that room. Uh, it was it was Seth. And Seth, you just look like a liar. I just want you to know that you just like your whole presence there. Uh, if you guys go back and watch it, the the way he's like stumbling over his word, he's just lying. He just is lying. And I like the nice little touch of the Babylon because now that we're getting into your true guiding theology, which is not Judaism, by the way. Um, it makes perfect sense. You are you are not the funny guy at all. uh you are in my view completely unhinged and you should feel remorse for what you put Charlie through in the end. You should have come online and had some sort of a conscience about telling the public lies about your last encounter with him. But of course you don't. That just kind of seems to be uh the entire Zionist era these days. You guys do to others and then constantly pretend you are the victims including of a a poster. Hey Seth, I know what you did last summer. Okay, we will be back after a brief break. All right, you guys. As a mother, I have learned that comfort does matter. 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They did not plan on Candace. I don't think evil ever plans on goodness or anything that's genuine. And my relationship with Charlie was genuine. I knew who he was. I knew who his faults were. Um, and he was just like a kid brother. That's all I can say. Who annoyed me in in many ways. And I'm sure I annoyed him in many ways. But, uh, he did not deserve that ending. GN2176 writes, "Canis, thank you for all that you are doing in this investigation. As I watch this story unfold, it appears that a book is being written about Charlie Kirk's trial leading up to a September 10th execution like St. Thomas Moore. I wonder if Charlie Kirk was also a man for all seasons. I did not know that there was a book that was being written. I'm not shocked uh about that at all. I would like to I'd be interested to learn more about who is writing that book." Jay Nichols writes, "I went back to the first post after September 10th and I had forgotten the the progression of this journey. Side note, where did you get your cloud shirt? Truth is the only thing that is undeniable. I wish I knew you personally. We could be best friends." Cut from the same cloth. I don't know which cloud shirt you're speaking about. What which cloud shirt? I would assume ah the blue sweater. I got that in London. I actually get basically all my clothes from London. I try to buy everything once a year because they have so many cute boutiques and they just have things that I I feel like are not available elsewhere. So, not bad in London. Jay Nichols writes, "I went back to the Oh, I just read that." Leslie writes, "I'm so grateful for you, your resolve, and integrity. Thank you for continuing to give us hope that truth and goodness will prevail. I'm curious. Have Charlie's parents reached out to you to validate all that you are doing to seek justice for Charlie?" No, I have not. And we are still working through some of the tips. I have not received any communication from them. I will tell you that they have always been exceedingly private. Like I have met them maybe a handful of times in the early Turning Point USA days. I know they went to a couple of events. I've never met a sister. Uh and a lot of people ask about that whether or not their silence means something. I don't They are obviously genuinely mourning having lost Charlie and they have always abstained. So that is not new. Nance the Rock writes, "Thank you, Candace, for your amazing work." Alicia writes, "I have been perplexed as to why Erica would so willingly accept the Fed slop and the trust our judicial system narrative regarding Tyler Robinson. It just hit me that of course she would accept the narrative as long as they were looking at anyone else and not her or TPUSA." What I will say is anybody telling you that questioning the people around uh who have a potentially a billion dollar motive for the person not to be there is asking you to be an idiot. They're asking you to be the kind of person that looks at 6 million concurrent viewers for a halftime special that only appeared on YouTube and basically told half of the nation fu is just as big as the World Cup. Like that's it's ridiculous. And it it feels like that's the direction of travel of of wind lately, right? Like that's that is the direction of travel that they want us to accept stupidity and to just go, "Oh, okay. That makes sense." and they can make anybody they want um a celebrity because they have power and they have resources and they have PR team and the next morning they wake up and they just have a bunch of people have Andrew Kovven on and say yep we did it we broke a world record we are contending this is literal we are contending to break a Guinness Book of World Record that's that's what they're doing if those numbers are to be believed they're they're they're going to be in the Guinness Book of World Records um and what that says is they have no faith in us they think we are stupid and easily manipulated and I'm happy that we are at least disproving them of that notion. Schlay Walt writes, "Thank you for finally calling it the righteous gemstones. I have been trying to tell everyone. I actually haven't even watched the show, but I kind of got the vibe of it. I saw uh something online that was posted. I was like, "Okay, yeah, that's that." Mhm. For sure. Uh this person Anie writes, "Candice, are you on Upscrolled? Please share your name." No, I'm not. I think someone made an account for me. I know that's like contending with Twitter. That is not the real That ain't the real Candace. So, that's what I'll tell you. AO writes, "I love that there is a clip of Erica speaking to Megan that confirms your recollection of lights flickering yet people were calling you a witch. Stay Max. PS, thank you for reading comments last week. I stand by saying that you are Charlie's David." Yeah, I saw them. They were trying to like make that fetch. Um, by the way, first off, that's a real condition. I I actually want to find it. That is a real thing that people go through and I don't know why that should shock you. Like there are all sorts of things like people who can um they see colors when they hear sounds. I don't know if they consider this to be disorders or what it is. I know Kanye has that. Um like people visually um people can hear things that are not the same. And there are a ton of people I'm going to look this up. Actually you guys wait right here. Lights flickering near you. I think I don't know if they call it a syndrome. There it has an official name. Oh, it's called SLI. is literally called street light interference which is a phenomenon a phenomenon where people claim that causes street lights to turn off or flicker upon approach or also known as a medical condition of photosensitive epilepsy seizures that are triggered by flashing and strobing and flickering lights. So, I don't know what to say to you. Like, like Erica's telling the truth, I'm telling the truth. Like, that's just a random thing to make up that when Charlie ran street lights went out, it's just real. And if you go into the comments of people on the Gate program, if you go back to our episode, uh, where we were discussing the Gate program, yeah, there's a lot of that. So, that was strange. I don't know. I didn't say I don't know. I don't even know what people were trying to convey from that. It's so strange. And then people who were going, "Oh, you're speaking about the third eye. This is demonic." Couple of things. Um, yes, Charlie spoke to me about his third eye and I have that in writing. And for those of you who are saying that that's demonic, I would like to remind you that having a conversation, if you want to call it third eye or pineal glands, you have like people uh the government that is trying to poison your pineal glands. That's a fact. If you look at fluoride, all that is very real. Uh, but to suggest that someone speaking to someone, by the way, I wasn't even a Catholic in 2018, so that was a weird thing they were trying to like push. I have the messages that that he was speaking to me about his third eye and I my guess from what I discerned in the context of that conversation was that that sort of a thing which I think his coach or I don't I don't know who that guy was that he was working with is what ultimately actually bought brought Charlie to the Christian faith. That's the context and I can show you those messages another time maybe tomorrow but he had a bad experience so there's that as well. So, I wasn't entirely clear on why I'm always in trouble for telling you the truth about what Charlie told me and which I have in writing. Like, I don't I don't I don't know what anybody was getting from that. Anyway, uh I was telling the truth. I continue to tell the truth and no one has been able to disprove me on any notion, but I saw them trying to push that like, oh, she's like summoning demons or something. I was like, or I'm telling you about a real life conversation that me and Charlie had in 2018. Anyway, you guys, um a lot to unpack. Again, if you know anything about this particular Thomas Martin, not the Thomas G. Martin who works up in Buffalo in New York, but the Thomas Martin that has been working with the Southern Command, please send us an email more tips at candacewowens.com. It would be an interesting dot to connect if so. Anyway, we will see you guys tomorrow. >> [music]