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Candace Owens Reveals How She and Charlie Kirk Were Assigned Handlers After Kanye West's Infamous 2018 Tweet
Candace Owens exposes what she describes as a coordinated effort to control and separate her partnership with Charlie Kirk following Kanye West's April 2018 tweet declaring his support for her. Owens details the vivid dreams, energy shifts, and strange synchronicities leading up to that paradigm-shifting moment, then reveals how figures from David Horowitz to Eric Weinstein to Rick Rubin inserted themselves into their circle. She recounts the manufactured Hitler controversy, her recruitment by PragerU, and a meeting at the Simon Wiesenthal Center conducted partially in Hebrew that she couldn't understand. What Owens initially perceived as help and friendship, she now believes was a strategic operation to assign handlers and pull her away from Charlie Kirk.
The Build-Up to the Kanye West Tweet
Candace Owens believes she has had handlers since 2018. When she created her initial tribute video to Charlie Kirk, some people took theological issue when she said that the day Kanye West tweeted "I love the way Candace Owens thinks," she and Charlie freaked out because they were convinced they had somehow manifested that moment. She acknowledges this was 2018, before she was Catholic, and says it's important to discuss why they thought they manifested that tweet because it is relevant to what took place thereafter.
As Owens showed previously, Charlie was having vivid dreams throughout his entire life that he was going to die in a tragic, quick way. But especially in April 2018, he was having vivid dreams that something big was about to happen. This was in the weeks leading up to the tweet. Charlie knew and Candace felt that they were on the brink of something big.
At the time, Charlie was around 23 or 24 years old. They were doing the Fox News circuit, appearing on every show, but Owens was focused on Black Lives Matter. She felt they were lying to black Americans and it would harm them. Neither was very well known at this time. They had just gotten together the November before.
It's a fact, Owens says, that they were listening to Kanye West music every day—literally every day, especially the song "Power." Owens was telling Charlie explicitly that they had to get to Kanye West. She could tell by his music that this person did not want to be part of the system. If they could get to Kanye, she thought he would join her Blexit movement. She wanted to wake up black Americans to what she saw as a scam using their race to control their emotions. She knew that Kanye West was not part of the simulation, so to speak, and that the song "Power," as Kanye said, is a battle cry to be yourself.
Owens has an old text from Charlie dated April 13th, 2018. She wrote: "Yo, Kanye West writing a philosophy book called Break the Simulation. We need him, Charlie. He is Blexit AF." Charlie wrote back: "I love Kanye. He's my soul brother. I will find a way to him. I promise. We have to." Looking at that now, Owens says it's crazy to realize he was about to tweet her.
The Energy Shift and Mike Cernovich's Tweets
There was an incredible build-up, and they felt this palpable energy, a shifting that they kept discussing in their messages. They were saying something was happening in April. Then on April 16th, Mike Cernovich, who had not spoken to Owens or Charlie about how they were feeling, did a series of tweets about how he was speaking to friends who could feel some sort of energy shift happening. They were shocked—what was happening? How could Cernovich randomly be tweeting this?
Owens sent those tweets to Charlie. Cernovich has since deleted them, but she says you can ask him. He wrote: "A change in energy which stuns high consciousness people does not mean bad. It simply means that it's cosmic. A paradigm is shifting. Something is happening and that people get angry at me shows the shift. Why care? The energy manifests itself in different ways." He continued: "Several high consciousness people I've spoken to independently told me about feeling a shift in energy. Something is going on. It happened 2 to 3 weeks ago. I'm not talking politics or elections. It's much bigger. Energy shift."
Owens sent the tweets to Charlie and said "Charlie, what the F?" She admits she had a bad potty mouth in 2018 and doesn't swear nearly as much anymore. Charlie responded: "Yep, we felt it, too. Remember I told you the dreams got darker."
The Night Before Kanye's Tweet
On the eve before Kanye West tweeted them—still in April, April 20th, the evening before—Charlie messaged Owens saying he was on a run blasting Kanye West and that they were on the brink of something big and this was their time. The message read: "I'm listening to Kanye and just running my streets. Are you ready for the war that's coming? We're going to fight. We're going to win. They will lose." Owens replied: "So exciting. It's our time." He said: "Yes."
The next morning, Owens woke up to news of the tweet and said "Please pick up" because she was shaking. Charlie wrote back: "I am freaking the F out." When she says you had to be there, they were certain they had manifested it. It was freaky. They were freaking out asking how this was real, how they knew, what was happening in the world.
Kanye sent the now infamous tweet: "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." Everything for Charlie and Candace changed in the blink of an eye in that moment. Retrospectively, it would never be the same again. It was indeed a paradigm shift.
Scott Adams' Analysis of the Tweet
Owens mentions that she and Charlie both watched Scott Adams. She didn't know who he was at the time—she was very green and not an overtly political person. But she remembers vividly watching him draw on a board and explain to his many followers that something much bigger had taken place and that people needed to pay attention to this tweet for almost cosmic reasons.
Scott Adams said: "What did he tweet? He tweeted, 'I like the way Candace Owens thinks.' Seven words. And he ripped a hole in reality with seven words. Because Kanye is supposed to be over here. And Candace is supposed to be over here. And they're not ever supposed to say the other one said something, right? That's not supposed to happen. But Kanye did it anyway."
Adams continued: "Whatever you want to say about Kanye, his politics, and I don't even know what his preferred politics would be... but he did something that you could rarely see. He actually just altered reality. He just made the entire conservative Twittersphere just go something like this. It's like your head just went 'Huh?' What did I just see? Did I really see this?"
Adams concluded: "The story is that these two people that shouldn't be in the same conversation in seven words, Kanye just changed that. And he just freed a lot of people from a mental prison. Kanye, in seven words, unlocked a mental prison. And he's bringing you to the golden age."
Owens looks back on that clip and finds it fascinating.
The Handlers Enter the Picture
From that moment onward, Owens believes she and Charlie were assigned handlers. This is an expression Kanye used to say—"have a handler." She thought he was just saying that, referring to Hollywood. She now very much believes that she has had handlers since 2018, and that things were done intentionally to pull her and Charlie apart.
Owens tweeted back at Kanye saying "Please take a meeting with us." Before she could hear directly from Kanye's people, she heard from David Horowitz of the Freedom Center. He was the one who first invited her when she was going viral on YouTube to speak at his conference. Owens notes that he is the father (or stepfather) to Andreessen Horowitz, the one that Benjamin Netanyahu is insisting should be part of the group that buys TikTok because they think it's important for warfare—psychological warfare in the future.
Horowitz was very nice in his message, saying his son knows Kanye and he would like to facilitate that meeting. Suddenly, they got Eric Weinstein involved, and he reached out, pretending he wanted to be a friend to Owens. She says he's a bad person and learned that very quickly. But at the time, Charlie and she were pro-Israel, which she thinks is relevant, and they were just so amazed by the tweet that they thought all these people really did just want to help.
Another player was Rick Rubin—the big music industry Rick Rubin—who also got into the mix and wanted to facilitate certain meetings. Owens took it again as a sign of help.
Changes at Turning Point USA
On the Turning Point USA side, Tyler Bowyer—who Owens says she could do a whole episode on, as he's more relevant than she can fit into just one episode—was the only person with Charlie before. He introduced Charlie to every person Charlie knows. Boyer started hiring a bunch of people, telling Charlie they needed to hire bigger and more professional money raisers, PR people like Andrew Kolvet, and so on.
It felt like at every moment there were forces trying to say "This is not allowed to happen." Kanye's handlers were telling him he wasn't allowed to be involved in politics, and he was getting angrier and angrier about that. This was in the time of Kim Kardashian and Kanye. She wanted nothing to do with it. Owens has been to their house. Political friends were telling Charlie and her not to get involved with Kanye because he's crazy, that they were on a trajectory and shouldn't speak to Kanye because it would backfire. Owens responded: "No, we dreamed this. We want him to be a part of Blexit. This is exactly what we wanted."
The Spiritual Pull to the UK
At the exact same time, Owens felt—and the story has been told many times by both Charlie and her—that out of nowhere, she got this spiritual pull that she needed to go to the UK. Charlie and she had no business in the UK at all. There was no reason to go to the UK, nothing happening there. She has the messages where she's saying "Charlie, we should go to the UK. I don't know why. I just have the vibe we need to go to the UK. We need to go to London." And they did go, in the future.
Kanye's Pressure and Distancing
First, dealing with the pressure cooker that kept happening between Kanye, Owens, and Charlie: In October, after Kanye had helped her start designing the logo for Blexit, Kanye's pressure cooker got too hot. Basically, they told him he would lose everything—his marriage, everything—if he didn't abstain from politics after he notoriously went to the White House in the MAGA hat. He needed to distance from them and from Blexit, and he cracked.
The headline read: "Kanye West distances himself from Blexit and Trump. He says, 'I've been used to spread messages.'" Kanye never wrote this statement, Owens says—one of his handlers did. But he said: "My eyes are now wide open and I now realize that I've been used to spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative."
That was not the most honest interpretation of things, Owens reflects. She's grateful she called Mike Cernovich and asked why Kanye was doing this, why he was saying this when she had pictures of him standing over the guy directing him on what he thought was cool with the logo. Should she drop them? Cernovich gave her sound advice and said "Don't. You have no idea what he's going through." She's grateful to Cernovich for that because she now knows what Kanye was going through and what that pressure is like when they come for your family and everything, and all you have to do is disavow this or that and everything will go back to normal. She totally understands why Kanye had to say that.
Meeting Her Husband
Owens thinks she was saved by this weird pull she had to go to the UK. It was, she now realizes, an unexpected anomaly. Her husband, how she met him, this unplanned trip on nobody's calendar that nobody was setting up. She just told Charlie to get a meeting with whoever, make anything happen, because she needed to be in the UK. She thought something good would happen if they went.
The person Charlie reached out to was John and Iryna Mappin—the lone donors who wrote that beautiful letter that has impacted the world, true friends of Charlie who stood up and said what Turning Point USA is doing is wrong. They had an event, and Owens first laid eyes on her husband. She has told people the truth: when asked why she got engaged after 18 days, she says it's inexplicable. She looked at him and felt like she had already known him. It felt exactly like seeing a sigh of relief. She needed to go with him.
The Hitler Controversy
Two months later—after that December event in London where she met her husband and convinced Charlie to let her take his credit card and book the flights while John and Iryna made the event happen—something really strange happened in February. Someone, she believes at BuzzFeed, cut a clip of a video from the Q&A portion of that UK event. This is over two months later. They stripped the question that was asked of her.
This was the scandal. Someone asked her: "Candace, you describe yourself as a nationalist. That is sometimes a dirty term because people don't like the word nationalism." She answered by saying that's because they wrongly attributed it to Adolf Hitler and he wasn't a nationalist. She didn't even mention Jews at all.
She said: "I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism. I think that the definition gets poisoned by leaders that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. So when you think about whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about in at least in America is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. Problem is that he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. That's not nationalism to me. I don't really have an issue with nationalism. I really don't. I think that it's okay. It's important to retain your country's identity."
Owens knows these online campaigns are inorganic and that what happened was a hit. They pulled the clip and then a bunch of articles said she supported Adolf Hitler and that she said if Hitler had just wanted to make Germany great again, then okay, fine. No context again. It was a severe cancel culture attack saying she supported Jews being killed in the Holocaust. It was insane.
Charlie and she were very new and this was very scary. They were coming upon a high point and wondering why people wanted to destroy them. At the same time, the Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a statement against her comments. It was heavy. It was so heavy. She laughs in retrospect because she thought it was all real. She didn't realize this was a matrix of people who wanted to pull her and Charlie apart. They wanted to put pressure on him so donors would pressure him and say "She's supporting Hitler. It's such a bad look." Then they would find her broken and scared and upset, saying she didn't know how Jewish people could think she would support Hitler.
PragerU and the Simon Wiesenthal Meeting
Despite this, the hand that came out to Owens and offered her a job was PragerU. PragerU offered her a job in early 2019, saying they knew she didn't believe these things. At the time she thought they were just being friends. She doesn't know what to think anymore.
Marissa Streit, the CEO, has never shied from telling people that she worked intelligence in the IDF in Israel. Owens took the job with them. Charlie and she still climbed together, but they were also working apart at the same time. They kept doing the campuses and campus tours, but she was officially working for PragerU.
One of the first things that happened—it feels to Owens like "we can save you, but here's what you have to do"—was Marissa took her to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Again, Owens was so grateful. She was asking who she had to say sorry to so they would know she didn't hate Jews. There was some chief rabbi-looking character, and he and Marissa spoke in Hebrew. Owens didn't understand a word of what was said in front of her. Then they left and everything was fine. Her reputation was restored temporarily.
The Military Operation
Throughout the timeframe thereafter, Owens did her show. Her first episode with PragerU was in March. Charlie was still climbing. Turning Point USA became a behemoth. Owens remembers speaking at their conferences and saying they were now running like a military operation. It was so efficient, on time, tactical. She did not realize at that time how prescient that thought would become.
Video Transcript
From that moment onward, Charlie and I
were assigned handlers. I now very much
believe that I have had handlers
um since 2018. I had mentioned to you
all honestly that something was
happening in April of 2018. A lot of
things actually were happening in April
of 2018, but of course hindsight is
2020. And I'm going to share some things
with you. I don't know what everything
means, but I know that it means
something.
Back when I did my initial tribute video
to Charlie, some people uh took issues
theologically when I said that the day
that Kanye West tweeted, "I love the way
Candace Owens thinks." Charlie and I
freaked out because we were convinced
that we had somehow manifested that. I'm
aware I received tons of emails. This
goes against
Christian doctrine.
This was 2018. I was not a Catholic, and
I think it's important to discuss that
and why we thought we manifested that
uh because it is extremely relevant to
what took place thereafter. I have to
explain that moment to you.
As I showed you yesterday, Charlie was
having a lot of vivid dreams. Dreams
that he said he had throughout his
entire life that he was going to die in
a really tragic quick way, but
especially in April he was having vivid
dreams that something big was about to
happen. This is in the weeks leading up
to the tweet, okay?
Full stop. Charlie knew and I felt that
we were on the brink of something big.
Okay, you guys remember we were young.
I'm a lot older than Charlie. Oh, was
Charlie 24 at the time? Maybe even maybe
even 23 years old at the time.
And we were doing the Fox News gambit,
every show on Fox News, but I was really
just focused on BLM, Black Lives Matter.
I felt they were lying to black
Americans and it was going to harm us.
Neither one of us was very well known at
this time. We had just kind of gotten
together
um the November before.
And it is just a fact that we were
listening to Kanye West music every day.
I mean literally every day, especially
the song Power, okay? I was telling
Charlie
explicitly, we have to get to Kanye
West. I can tell by his music, this is
what I'm saying to Charlie, I know these
lyrics inside and out, this person does
not want to be a part of the system. If
we can get to Kanye, I think he'll join
my Blexit movement. I've got to wake up
black Americans to this scam
that they're using our race to control
our emotions,
which now to me seems so molecular cuz I
see how much bigger the issue is, but
I just knew that Kanye West was not a
part of the simulation, so to speak, and
that the song Power, as Kanye said, is a
battle cry to be yourself because of the
lyrics, and I have this old text that
I'm going to show you from Charlie. This
is April 13th, 2018. This is what I said
to him, just so you can kind of get the
vibe of what was going on. I said, "Yo,
Kanye West writing a philosophy
philosophy book called Break the
Simulation. We need him, Charlie. He is
Blexit AF." And Charlie wrote back, "I
love Kanye. He's my soul brother. I will
find a way to him. I promise. We have
to."
It's crazy to look at that and realize
that he's about to tweet us about to
tweet me.
So, there was this incredible build-up,
and we felt this palpable energy,
a shifting almost that we kept
discussing in all the messages. We're
like, "Something something's happening
in April. Something's happening."
And then on April 16th, Mike Cernovich,
you might be familiar with him, he does
this series of tweets having not spoken
to me or Charlie about how we were
feeling, saying that he was speaking to
a lot of his friends who could feel that
there was some sort of an energy shift
energy shift happening.
So, you imagine, we're like, "What?
There is something definitely happening
here. How could Mike Cernovich randomly
be tweeting this series of tweets?" It
shocked me. So, I sent those tweets to
Charlie. I'm going to show you that now.
These are from Mike Cernovich. He has
since deleted these tweets, but you can
ask him.
He wrote, a change in energy. This is
Mike Cernovich. A change in energy which
stuns high consciousness people does not
mean bad. It simply means that it's
cosmic. A paradigm is shifting.
Something is happening and that people
get angry at me shows the shift. Why
care? The energy manifests itself in
different ways. He goes on to say
several high consciousness people I've
spoken to independently told me about
feeling a shift in energy. Something is
going on. It happened 2 to 3 weeks ago.
I'm not talking politics or elections.
It's much bigger.
Energy shift.
I saw this and I obviously screenshot I
sent it I sent the tweets to I'm not
screenshot I just sent the tweets to
Charlie and I said, "Charlie, what the
F?" I had a bad potty mouth in 2018.
Going through these tweets, I realized
that. I I don't swear nearly as much or
at all anymore.
And then Charlie said, "Yep, we felt it,
too. Remember I told you the dreams got
darker."
Again, I'm painting a picture here of
what was going on. It we're going to you
know get deeper here on what transpired.
On the eve before Kanye West tweeted us.
Again, we are still in April. This is
April 20th. The evening before Kanye
West tweets me. Charlie messages me and
he says, "I'm on a run and I'm blasting
Kanye West and we're on the brink of
something big and like this is our
time."
I'm going to show you that tweet. Night
before.
I'm listening to Kanye and just running
my streets. Are you ready for the war
that's coming? We're going to fight.
We're going to win. They will lose. I
said, "So
exciting."
It's our time. He said, "Yes." And then
the next
morning, as you can see, I woke up to
news of the tweets and I said, "Please
pick up." cuz I was shaking. And then
Charlie wrote back and said, "I am
freaking the F out."
When I said to you guys you had to be
there, we were certain we had manifested
It was It was kind of freaky. That's the
right word. We were freaking out going,
"How is this real? How did we know? What
is happening right now in the world?"
And yeah, Kanye sent this now infamous
tweet.
I love the way Candace Owens thinks.
I want you know this.
Everything for Charlie and I changed in
a blink of an eye in that moment.
And retrospectively, it would never be
the same again.
It was indeed a paradigm shift. I
mentioned to you guys yesterday that I
remember that we both watched Scott
Adams. I did not know who he was at this
time. Again, I was very green and I'm
not an overtly political person.
So, I didn't know who Scott Adams was,
but I remember vividly watching him draw
on a board and explain to his very many
followers
that something much bigger had taken
place and that people needed to pay
attention to this tweet for almost
cosmic reasons. Let's take a listen to
what Scott Adams said on that day.
What did he tweet? He tweeted,
"I like the way Candace Owens thinks."
Seven words.
And he ripped a hole in reality
with seven words.
Because Kanye
is supposed to be over here.
And Candace is supposed to be over here.
And they're not ever supposed to say the
other one said something, right?
All right? That's not supposed to
happen.
But Kanye did it anyway.
Kanye
knows history doesn't repeat. He's not a
prisoner of the mind. He knows that the
problem is not the solution.
Whatever you want to say about Kanye,
his politics, and I don't even know what
what his preferred politics would be.
I'm not even sure what party he would
run for it if he ran for president at
this point, whatever else you want to
say about him, and I don't know enough
about his actual, you know,
management skills or or political
ability,
uh, but
he did something that you you could
rarely see.
He actually just altered reality.
He just made the entire conservative
Twitters- Twittersphere just go
something like this.
It's like It's like your head just went
"Huh?"
What did I just see?
Did I really see this?
Now, forget about,
you know, which which of these views you
like the best.
That's not even the story. Forget about
whether you think Candace has everything
right or everything wrong. That's not
the story.
The story is that
that these two people that shouldn't be
in the same conversation in seven words,
Kanye just changed that.
And he just
freed
a lot of people from a mental prison.
Kanye,
in seven words,
unlocked a mental prison.
And he's bringing you to
the golden age.
I look back on that and I find that clip
to be really fascinating. And here's
what I would tell you that happened
thereafter in short order cuz it was
definitely something. I believe, and I'm
saying this retrospectively, that from
that moment onward, Charlie and I were
assigned handlers. Okay, this is
expression that Kanye used to say, "Have
a handler." I thought that he was just
saying that. I thought that he was
referring to just Hollywood. I now very
much believe that I have had handlers,
um, since 2018.
And that things were done intentionally
to pull me and Charlie apart. Now, I'm
going to tell you how I remember it in
no particular order, okay? I tweeted
back at Kanye and I said, "Please take a
meeting with us." And
before I could hear directly from
Kanye's people, I heard from David
Horowitz of the of Freedom Center. He's
the one that first invited me when I was
going viral on YouTube to speak at his
conference. You should also know that he
is the father to Andreessen Horowitz,
the one that Bibi Netanyahu is insisting
should or stepfather to.
He wants Andreessen Horowitz to be a
part of this group that buys TikTok
because, and this is relevant, they
think it's important for warfare,
psychological warfare in the future.
It's relevant.
He
was very nice in his message to me,
said, "Oh, my son knows Kanye, and I
would like to facilitate that meeting."
Suddenly, they get Eric Weinstein
involved, and he reaches out. And he
pretends that he wants to be a friend to
me. He's a bad person, I can tell you
that right away. And I learned that very
quickly, but at the time, Charlie and I,
A, we were pro-Israel, that's I think
kind of relevant, and we were just so
amazed by the tweet that we thought all
of these people like this was just our
moment, as in they really did just want
to help.
Another player in this was Rick Rubin,
yeah, the big music industry Rick Rubin
also got into the mix and wanted to
facilitate certain meetings. I took it
again as a sign of help. On the Turning
Point USA side, Tyler Boyer, who I could
do a whole episode on. It's actually
he's he's more so relevant that I I
can't fit him into just one episode. He
was with the only person that was with
Charlie before. He introduced him to
every every person that Charlie knows.
He starts hiring a bunch of people,
telling Charlie that we need to hire
bigger and more professional money
raisers, PR people like Andrew Cole,
that you name it.
And it feels like at every moment there
were forces that were trying to tell us,
"This is not allowed to happen. Kanye's
handlers are telling him Kanye's got a
team of people telling him he's not
allowed to be involved in politics. And
he's getting angrier and he's getting
angrier about that. This is in the time
of Kim Kardashian and Kanye. She wanted
nothing to do with it, okay?
I've been to their house
and pol- political friends are telling
Charlie and I don't get involved with
Kanye cuz he's crazy. You guys are on a
trajectory. Don't speak to Kanye. It's
It's going to backfire in your face. And
I'm like, "No, we dreamed this. We want
him to be a part of Blexit. Like this is
exactly what we wanted."
At the exact same time, I felt and
you've heard the story very many times.
Charlie has told it, I have told it. Out
of nowhere, I got this spiritual pull
that I needed to go to the UK.
Charlie and I had no business in the UK
at all. There's no reason for us to go
to the UK. There's nothing happening in
the UK. I have the messages. I'm like,
"Charlie, we should go to the UK. I
don't know why. I just I just I'm
getting the vibe we need to go to the
UK. We need to go to the UK. We need to
go to the to the UK."
Like we got to go to London.
And um
we did.
Uh in the future. But first, uh
dealing with this sort of pressure
cooker that kept happening between Kanye
and me, Charlie.
Uh it was in October after Kanye had
helped me to start designing the logo
for Blexit
that Kanye's pressure cooker got too
hot.
And basically, they told him that he
would lose everything, his marriage,
this, that if he didn't abstain from
politics after he notoriously went to
the White House in the MAGA hat.
And he needed to distance from us
and of course Blexit and he cracked. You
guys remember this headline. I'm taking
you back 2018. Kanye West isn't
distances him- himself from Blexit and
Trump. He says, "I've been used to
spread messages."
Kanye never wrote this statement. One of
his handlers did, but he said, "Uh my
eyes are now wide open and I now realize
that I've been used to spread messages
that I don't believe in. I am distancing
myself from politics and completely
focusing on being creative. Now,
uh that was not the most honest
uh interpretation of things, and I
reflect on it, and I'm so grateful that
I called Mike Cernovich, and I said,
"Like, why is Kanye doing this? Why is
he saying this? I have pictures of him
standing over the guy, directing him on
what he thought was cool with the logo.
Like, should I drop them?" And Cernovich
gave me really sound advice and said,
"Don't. You have no idea what he's going
through." And grateful to Cernovich for
that because I now know what Kanye was
going through and what that pressure is
like, and when they come for your family
and come for everything, and it's like,
"All you have to do is disavow this or
disavow that, and everything will go
back to normal." Uh so, yeah, Kanye, I
totally understand it. It makes perfect
sense to me why you had to say that.
Anyways, I I think I was saved. I look
back, and I think I was saved by this
weird pull that I had to go to the UK.
It was, now I realize, an unexpected
anomaly. My husband, how I met him, this
unplanned trip on nobody's calendar,
nobody was setting it up. I just like,
"Charlie, get a meeting with whoever,
make anything happen. I need to be in
the UK. I just think that like something
good will happen if we go to the UK."
And it's kind of beautiful that the
person that Charlie reached out to and
said, "Can you put together just any
place for Candace and I to speak at?"
was John and Arena Mappin, the the lone
donors
who wrote that beautiful letter that has
impacted the world, like true friends of
Charlie who stood up and said that what
Turning Point USA is doing is wrong.
Uh so, yeah, we had an event, and
obviously, I first laid eyes on my
husband, and I have told you guys the
truth. I looked at him, and everyone's
like, "Why'd you get engaged after 18
days?" I have never It's inexplicable. I
looked at him, and I felt like I had
already known him, and it felt exactly
like seeing a sigh of relief. Like, it
felt like a sigh of relief. I was like,
this is I need to go with him.
Two months later
and with that event in London far behind
us. So, that was in December that I met
my husband uh that I convinced Charlie,
took his credit card, and booked the
flights. John and Nerina made the event
happen. Two months later in February,
something really strange happened.
Someone, and I believe it was someone at
BuzzFeed, cut a clip of a video from the
Q&A portion of that UK event. This is
again over two months later.
And they stripped the question that was
asked of me. You'll remember the
scandal. What I'm about to tell you
about this is crazy. Again, I was green,
so I didn't understand why suddenly they
were sharing a clip and they were saying
that I was justifying Hitler
Adolf Hitler killing Jews. A person
asked me, Candace, you describe yourself
as a nationalist. That is sometimes a
dirty term because people don't like the
words nationalism.
And I answered by saying, well, that's
cuz they wrongly attributed to Adolf
Hitler and he wasn't a nationalist. I
didn't even mention Jews at all. I'm
going to actually show you what I said
and I was standing next to Charlie when
I said it, which is relevant. Take a
listen.
Yeah, I agree. I I actually don't have
any problems at all uh with the word
nationalism. I think that it gets uh
the definition gets poisoned um by uh
leaders that actually want globalism.
Globalism is what I what I don't want.
So, when you think about whenever we say
nationalism, the first thing people
think about in at least in America is
Hitler. You know, he was a national
socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to
make Germany great and have things run
well, okay, fine. Problem is is that he
wanted he had dreams outside of Germany.
He wanted to globalize. He wanted
everybody to be German, everybody to be
speaking German, everybody to look a
different way. That's not to me that's
not nationalism. Um so, I in thinking
about how we could go bad down the line,
I don't really I don't really have an
issue with nationalism. I really don't.
I think that it's okay. It's important
to retain your your country's identity
and to make sure
um that what's happening here, which I
think is incredibly worrisome in terms
of the just the the decrease in the
birth rate that we're seeing um in the
UK
is what you kind of want to avoid. So,
I'm not I don't have anything problem I
have no problems with nationalism. It's
globalism that I try to avoid.
Now, I know that these online campaigns
are inorganic and that what actually
happened was this was a hit. This was a
hit. They pulled the clip and then a
bunch of people were articles saying
that I supported Adolf Hitler
uh and that I said if Hitler had just
wanted to make Germany great again, then
okay, fine. That's fine. No context
again. And it was like a severe cancel
culture attack saying that I supported
Jews being killed in the Holocaust. It
was insane.
Again, Charlie and I were very new and
this was very scary. We were kind of
coming upon a high point and going, "Why
do people want to destroy us? We don't
know what this is." And
uh at the same time, the Simon
Wiesenthal Center, and this is again
another interesting piece of this, put
me like issued a statement against my
comments. Simon Wiesenthal Center, we're
like the official Holocaust people and
this girl is obviously uh supporting
Hitler.
It was heavy. It was
It was so heavy and I laugh in
retrospect because I thought it was all
real. I didn't realize this was a a
matrix of people who wanted to pull me
and Charlie apart. That's what they
wanted to do. They wanted to put
pressure on him so donors would pressure
him and be like, "Hey, she's supporting
Hitler. It's such a bad look."
Um and then they would find me broken
and scared and upset and going, "I don't
know how Jewish people could think that
I would support Hitler." And that's what
I was saying.
And this amazing thing happened that
despite this that the hand that came out
to me and offered me a job was PragerU.
Uh PragerU offered me a job. This is
early 2019 and it was like, "Hey, like
we know that you don't believe these
things." And at the time I thought they
were just being friends. I don't know
what to think anymore. Um Marissa,
straight the CEO, has never shied from
telling people that she is
you know, in the IDF. She works She
worked intelligence in the IDF, right?
In Israel.
And I was I took the job with them and
Charlie and I still climbed together,
but we were also working apart at the
same time. We kept doing the campuses
and the campus tours, but I was
officially working for PragerU. And one
of the first things that happened
almost the way it feels to me was like,
we can save you, but here's what you
have to do, was Marissa took me
to the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
And again, I was so grateful. I was
like, who do I have to say sorry to to
so that they know that I don't hate
Jews. This is what happened. I'm telling
you, this is what happened in 2019.
And there was like some chief
rabbi-looking character and him and her
spoke in Hebrew. I didn't understand a
word of what was said in front of me.
And then we left and everything was
fine.
My reputation was restored temporarily.
Throughout that timeframe thereafter,
I'm doing my show. I think my first
episode with uh PragerU was in March. Uh
Charlie's still climbing. Turning Point
USA, as you know, became a behemoth. Uh
I remember
speaking at their conferences and saying
that they were now running like a
military operation. It was so efficient,
on time. It was tactical. And I did not
realize at that time how prescient that
thought would become.