Candace Owens Reflects on Charlie Kirk's Death Anniversary, Kanye West Concert, and Turning Point USA's Suspicious Behavior

[00:01] All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I

[00:03] hope everyone enjoyed the long weekend.

[00:05] You absolutely know that I did because I

[00:07] went to a Yay concert. I'm going to tell

[00:09] you all about that. Easily the most

[00:11] inspiring show that I have ever been to.

[00:14] And I saw it at the exact right time

[00:16] because I keep telling you guys, I am

[00:18] back. I feel healed. I'm fighting now

[00:21] with a very clear mind, which is good.

[00:24] Uh because in two days it will be the

[00:26] one-year anniversary of Charlie's

[00:28] passing. And I've been listening to the

[00:30] Kanye West classics. So, the forecast is

[00:33] not looking good this week. For those

[00:34] that betrayed Charlie Kirk, stay

[00:36] indoors. In fact, this just might wind

[00:39] up being the coldest story ever told.

[00:41] See what I did there? Now, Turning Point

[00:43] USA is firing up the anniversary engine,

[00:46] so to speak. First, Erica Kirk has moved

[00:48] to publish a one-year look back on her

[00:50] grief in an op-ed for the New York

[00:53] Times. And it's not exactly a

[00:55] tearjerker. I've read it. We're going to

[00:57] go through that. In addition, Blake Nef

[00:59] has shared a totally bizarre detail

[01:01] about a conversation that he had in the

[01:04] hospital shortly after Charlie was

[01:06] pronounced dead. It is not good. It is

[01:09] not going to do anything about those

[01:12] pesky rumors. We're going to talk about

[01:15] all of this. Welcome back to Candace.

[01:32] What a weekend, you guys. Okay, so I'm

[01:34] sitting at a peak of inspiration in this

[01:36] moment. In case you did not know, the

[01:38] artist formerly known as Kanye West.

[01:40] Yay. He has been touring and he has been

[01:43] selling out stadiums that are between

[01:46] 70,000 100,000 seats all over the world.

[01:50] It should be mentioned. Um he's

[01:52] essentially doing a world tour that is

[01:55] equal to Taylor Swift's era's tour and

[01:59] he's doing it amidst a total media

[02:01] blackout. That's what makes this really

[02:03] a cultural phenomenon because the media,

[02:07] they cannot stand to acknowledge the

[02:09] success of those that it attempted to

[02:11] destroy. Okay, I'm gonna say that again.

[02:13] media cannot stand to acknowledge the

[02:16] persistent success of individuals that

[02:19] they attempted to destroy. Okay? Hence

[02:22] the crash out from people online who

[02:24] dedicate their lives full-time to try to

[02:26] destroy me. They were completely

[02:28] traumatized by me living my life this

[02:31] weekend. I saw one person posted their

[02:34] conversation with Grock about whether

[02:36] it's safe for me to go to a concert at 8

[02:39] months pregnant. And Grock said, "No,

[02:42] the baby could be startled by the music

[02:44] because their hearing is developed."

[02:46] Okay. And then I saw the same people who

[02:48] told us that overwhelming happiness and

[02:52] fireworks displayed at a funeral was

[02:54] perfectly normal stuff, right? Those

[02:57] same people were then trying to convince

[02:59] us that my happiness and fireworks that

[03:02] were displayed at a Yay concert one year

[03:04] later was completely unacceptable.

[03:07] Things are just hilariously backward. I

[03:09] also wish to underscore the sincere

[03:12] stupidity of their excuse as to why

[03:15] fireworks were okay at Charlie's

[03:16] funeral. They were like, "Charlie loved

[03:18] pyrochnics."

[03:20] Yeah, I'm sure he did when he was

[03:23] celebrating. I'm sure he also loved

[03:25] birthday cards, birthday cake, candles,

[03:27] hot girls, and bikinis. That does not

[03:29] make any of those things appropriate in

[03:32] a funeral setting. It's just a bizarre

[03:34] way to try to argue that people were

[03:37] wrong for feeling weird about the

[03:39] celebratory nature of a funeral. Anyway,

[03:42] enough about that. I have to show you

[03:44] guys some clips from Yay's return to the

[03:46] stage. Here is the crowd singing

[03:48] Heartless.

[03:50] And [music] I am borrowing this footage.

[03:55] [cheering]

[04:02] >> [music]

[04:03] >> I

[04:03] >> just just look at that stadium size and

[04:05] one of my favorites. This is famous and

[04:09] the cameras which were turned on the

[04:11] crowd. Take a listen here.

[04:16] [music]

[04:21] [music]

[04:30] And both nights he closed out the the

[04:33] show with his song Runway. I'm just

[04:35] mentioning here, by the way, I'm

[04:36] borrowing this footage of people on

[04:37] Instagram. I did not record one second

[04:39] of I was just way too excited. I was a a

[04:43] a true fan. No time to be behind a

[04:45] camera lens. But he closed out both

[04:47] shows with his song Runaway. uh just

[04:51] amazing because when it starts he just

[04:53] makes one piano note and everyone goes

[04:56] crazy. He essentially has made one piano

[04:58] note famous and then he starts playing

[05:03] more notes and the the crowd just goes

[05:05] wild. Take a look at this.

[05:21] >> [cheering]

[05:32] [music]

[05:39] >> All I can say is that it was a night of

[05:41] art, moving art. There's no other way to

[05:43] express what I witnessed, what I felt.

[05:45] It was something that was uplifting and

[05:46] it further inspired me. And it's

[05:48] difficult to express to audiences what

[05:50] yay returning to Chicago during the week

[05:53] of Charlie's death anniversary meant to

[05:56] me. Uh obviously you guys know Charlie

[05:58] was from Chicago. He's very proud of

[06:00] that. He uh loved Kanye thanks to me. He

[06:03] loved the song Homecoming in particular

[06:06] which is Kanye's It was his ode to

[06:09] Chicago effectively. And it all just

[06:12] felt to me extremely providential the

[06:15] timing of it all. And I should also

[06:18] mention that Yay had not been back on

[06:20] stage in his hometown in over 6 years.

[06:22] So there was no way in the world that I

[06:24] was going to miss this show months ago.

[06:26] We started planning to attend. We were

[06:27] willing, of course, to pay ourselves to

[06:30] go, but Yay's team was like, "Absolutely

[06:31] not." They went above and beyond. We We

[06:34] had the most fantastic time. We landed

[06:36] into Chicago thinking that we'd have

[06:38] plenty of time to go to dinner before

[06:39] going to the show, but the traffic was

[06:41] insane. He he just shut down the city.

[06:43] The entire city was attending this

[06:46] concert. That's what it felt like. By

[06:48] the time we got to our hotel through all

[06:50] the traffic, we had about 15 minutes to

[06:52] drop our bags before heading over to

[06:55] Yay's hotel. And it was just such a

[06:58] beautiful and wonderful thing to see

[07:00] people just lined up outside. And

[07:02] really, they were just waiting for him

[07:04] to exit his motorcade just to cheer and

[07:07] take photos and applaud as he was

[07:09] leaving his hotel. and they just wanted

[07:12] to wave. I stopped and take and and took

[07:15] photos with um a lot of those people. Uh

[07:18] we have a lot of joint fans and it was

[07:20] exciting for me as well just to be with

[07:23] people again after a long year. I do

[07:27] have to tell you guys I had this

[07:28] terrible, terribly awkward moment in the

[07:31] lobby, in the hotel lobby. My brain just

[07:34] sort of glitched for a second. We were

[07:35] grabbing our concert passes and I'm

[07:37] speaking to someone on his team and

[07:39] suddenly I I look behind them and Kim

[07:41] Kardashian's in the lobby. I hadn't seen

[07:44] her since like pre-ivorce. I was so

[07:47] confused. I'm thinking, "Oh no, oh my,

[07:50] she's going to this concert." And you

[07:52] know, I've said some things about Kim

[07:54] and now I'm about to be in a box with

[07:57] her all night because, you know, gay

[07:59] makes up with people at random times and

[08:02] I [laughter] was just like, "Oo, I kind

[08:04] of just stared across the lobby at her

[08:06] with a half smile." Have you ever seen

[08:08] that viral staredown meme from

[08:10] [laughter] from that show? You've likely

[08:12] seen the meme. It's it's Diddy and that

[08:14] gay guy looking back and forth at each

[08:15] other. I was effectively the gay guy in

[08:18] the scenario. This is This is live

[08:20] footage of me and Kim K in the lobby.

[08:22] Take a look.

[08:28] [laughter]

[08:32] [gasps]

[08:41] I was like, "Okay, it was all fine."

[08:43] Turns out she was actually in town for a

[08:44] show that Northwest had the following

[08:46] night. It's all good. No hard feelings

[08:48] everybody. No hard feelings. All love to

[08:51] her and hers. Now from there we then

[08:54] went to the concert in the motorcade.

[08:56] Got to witness greatness. We had all

[08:58] access passes so we could actually go to

[08:59] any section in the arena. But as as soon

[09:01] as we were up in a box and I saw the

[09:03] energy and the movement of the people on

[09:05] the ground essentially just having a

[09:06] party, I looked at my husband, I looked

[09:08] at security and I was like, I got come

[09:10] on, you guys know I have to be down

[09:11] there. I just I got to be down there.

[09:13] And so I was down to crowd surf at 8

[09:16] months pregnant. It's just who I am. I I

[09:19] was so energized. It was just I I can't

[09:21] express the most. You can still go see

[09:23] the concert if you're on the fence about

[09:24] doing that. I think uh his next US date

[09:28] is maybe in Dallas. I might be wrong.

[09:31] Might be Houston. Go. Anyway, I wanted

[09:34] to to introduce this because I like I

[09:36] said at the top, there's a lot of people

[09:37] who don't understand,

[09:40] which I can understand how you don't

[09:41] understand what Yay means to the world

[09:43] and what he means to culture and why

[09:46] people like myself truly believe he is

[09:48] the greatest artist living because you

[09:51] probably have seen him through a lens of

[09:52] the media and you probably did not grow

[09:54] up with his music. And I'm going to do

[09:55] my best to very quickly explain this to

[09:57] you because it's relevant, honestly,

[10:00] it's relevant to the person that I am

[10:01] today. there is a depth to his artistry

[10:04] that even if you never become a fan of

[10:05] his music, it is good for you to grasp

[10:08] at least peripherally um why he has this

[10:11] effect and he's able to survive all of

[10:14] these quote unquote cancellations. In

[10:16] fact, um I've told you guys this story

[10:18] many times before, but when Charlie and

[10:20] I were driving up in a rental car that

[10:22] we had picked up at Denver airport and

[10:24] we had this three-hour journey up the

[10:26] mountain side to wherever we were going,

[10:28] we were just listening to music and I

[10:30] realized that he didn't know Kanye West

[10:32] music at all. And I mean like he didn't

[10:34] know difference between Kanye West and

[10:36] Jay-Z. And I was like, "Stop the car.

[10:40] This is not a thing. You are from

[10:42] Chicago." and I just sort of took him

[10:44] through the story and the journey. And

[10:46] I'm going to give you guys a crash

[10:47] course uh from that car ride

[10:49] effectively, which which turned Charlie

[10:51] into a big Yay fan. Uh he would then run

[10:54] 10 miles a day to his music and we would

[10:56] text about it all the time and just feel

[10:57] really inspired and uplifted by it. But

[10:59] I want to start with this little snippet

[11:01] from an interview that Kanye, back then

[11:03] he was called Kanye, uh gave to this is

[11:07] 2013. He he was giving an interview to

[11:10] the BBC regarding his quote unquote fans

[11:14] and this is what he said.

[11:16] >> Go listen to all my music. It's the

[11:18] codes of self-esteem. It's the codes of

[11:20] who you are. If you're a Kanye West fan,

[11:22] you're not a fan of me. You're a fan of

[11:24] yourself.

[11:26] You will believe in yourself. I'm just

[11:28] the espresso. I'm just a shot in the

[11:31] morning to get you going, to make you

[11:33] believe that you can overcome that

[11:35] situation that you're dealing with all

[11:36] the time.

[11:39] So, if you grew up listening to Kanye

[11:40] West's music, you understand that he

[11:43] really is sort of a a white hacker as

[11:46] it's referred to in the Matrix, right?

[11:48] We live in a matrix of some description.

[11:50] There's a certain computer code that's

[11:53] running that we are impacted by that we

[11:55] are meant to follow and we don't really

[11:57] know who's programming, right? We don't

[12:00] know who's writing this code, only that

[12:02] they expect us to exist mindlessly

[12:04] within it. And any person that notices

[12:07] that there is this code is perceived as

[12:09] an immediate threat. Right? Kanye's

[12:11] music represented a hacking to that

[12:15] code. He is correct. Like you listen to

[12:17] what he's saying and suddenly you start

[12:20] recognizing that. Why do I think this?

[12:23] Why am I not allowed to think this? And

[12:25] I'm going to give you an example. One of

[12:26] his first mainstream songs was entitled

[12:29] All Falls Down. It was a song where he

[12:31] laid out which was quite shocking all of

[12:33] his insecurities. Right. No artist had

[12:36] ever done this before at this stage. a

[12:39] famous person referring to his own

[12:41] shortcomings, his financial

[12:43] irresponsibility, his inability to

[12:46] pronounce certain words um in the song

[12:49] as well prior to we we all sort of had

[12:52] this idea of fame being unattainable in

[12:54] a way and then Kanye drop drops drops

[12:58] all falls down and he's calling everyone

[13:00] out and I felt very seen by his lyrics

[13:04] he was speaking about um in one in one

[13:06] verse he's speaking about a woman in

[13:08] college and And the lyrics are, "Man, I

[13:10] promise she's so self-conscious. She has

[13:12] no idea what she's doing in college. The

[13:14] major that she majors in don't make no

[13:16] money, but she won't drop out. Her

[13:17] parents will look at her funny." Then he

[13:19] says, "Now tell me that ain't insecure.

[13:21] The concept of school seems so secure."

[13:23] That was me. I had no idea what I was

[13:25] doing in college. Journalism and

[13:27] English, double major. What idea? No

[13:29] clue. I was just following the embedded

[13:31] matrix code that if you don't sign up

[13:33] for, I guess, government debt.

[13:35] [laughter] I had no money to go to

[13:36] college. signed up for government debt

[13:38] anyways. If you don't sign up, if you

[13:40] don't go to school, then you're a

[13:41] failure, right? That's just a code. And

[13:44] we don't know why we do the things other

[13:45] than insecurity. That's peer pressure

[13:48] and insecurity, which cost me about

[13:51] $150,000 in student loans. And you're

[13:55] just sort of scared that you're not

[13:56] going to fit in unless you do what

[13:58] everyone else is doing. And he's

[14:00] speaking to that. And then he has uh the

[14:02] second verse of that where he addresses

[14:03] himself and he and he says, "Man, I

[14:05] promise I'm so self-conscious. That's

[14:07] why you always see me with at least one

[14:09] of my watches. Rolies and Poshas done

[14:12] drove me crazy. I can't even pronounce

[14:14] nothing past that Versace." So he's

[14:16] talking about Versace and Rolies being

[14:18] Rolexes and Poshas being uh Cardier

[14:21] watches and he's so self-conscious that

[14:24] he he feels like he has to wear this

[14:26] stuff. He can't even pronounce Versace.

[14:29] You should uh know that young Kanye had

[14:32] aspirations to be in fashion. We'd see

[14:34] that later in his life, even if he

[14:35] couldn't pronounce the words, right? He

[14:37] couldn't pronounce Versace, but he loved

[14:40] fashion. And that in and of itself is

[14:42] meant to be a bar to entry. Like, you're

[14:44] not saying the words right. So, how

[14:46] could you be fashionable if you don't

[14:47] know that it's Versace and not Versace?

[14:50] How could you know anything about

[14:52] anything if you can't pronounce all of

[14:54] these tricky French words?

[14:57] um like um I don't I think Cardier is

[14:59] French. I don't even know if it's French

[15:00] actually. And it all really culminates

[15:02] in the song when he says, "It seems

[15:04] we're living the American dream. The

[15:06] people highest up have the lowest

[15:08] self-esteem. The prettiest people do the

[15:10] ugliest things bent on the road to

[15:12] riches and diamond rings." And that is a

[15:14] reality. I have seen that up close. It's

[15:17] what people will be willing to do to get

[15:19] to the top. What people will be willing

[15:20] to do to have money. And when you get up

[15:24] there, you sort of realize that these

[15:25] people do not have any self-esteem

[15:28] whatsoever. Um, and they they will be

[15:31] will do practically anything uh to

[15:34] maintain their popularity because they

[15:36] have such low self-esteem. That has been

[15:38] the consistent messaging of his music,

[15:40] which is why it's so funny. People who

[15:41] don't listen to it, they think he's so

[15:43] narcissistic because he just believes in

[15:46] himself. And but if you listen to his

[15:48] music, you're like narcissistic. This

[15:49] man is constantly expressing talking

[15:51] about his addictions, talking about the

[15:53] traps in life, talking about um the lore

[15:55] of women, him not doing the right thing,

[15:57] talking about his divorce, talking about

[16:00] uh the mistakes that he's made.

[16:03] Letting people know that you essentially

[16:07] have to believe in yourself is has been

[16:10] Kanye's consistent messaging. like the

[16:12] current design of the matrix is to lean

[16:14] into whatever it is that they think uh

[16:17] will make you feel too self-conscious to

[16:19] express yourself, right? It's like

[16:22] you're not allowed to run counter to the

[16:25] mainstream. You're what however you

[16:27] feel, it's not allowed to be counter to

[16:28] the mainstream. And they want you to

[16:29] feel isolated and alone. Um they tell

[16:31] you who to like, what's fashionable,

[16:33] who's cool, who's crazy. Of course,

[16:35] that's one of their favorite tools. This

[16:36] person has gone crazy. You don't want to

[16:38] be associated with crazy. So even if you

[16:40] kind of like that person, you don't want

[16:41] to express that publicly. Um

[16:45] that's that's kind of how it works. And

[16:48] why you don't belong in certain crowds.

[16:50] There's that messaging as well. So for

[16:52] me, it was why you can't like Trump.

[16:54] Well, you're black, right? Then when I

[16:57] expressed that I like Trump, it became,

[16:59] well, now you have to like Trump

[17:01] forever. Well, I don't like him anymore.

[17:02] Why can't I change my mind on the basis

[17:04] of what he's actually doing? Why can't I

[17:07] now despise all the things that he's

[17:09] doing? Oh, then you're going to get

[17:10] kicked out of this crowd. You just got

[17:11] welcomed into this crowd. You were in

[17:13] Magaland. Now you're kicked out of

[17:14] Magaland. And for a very long time, the

[17:17] media had the power to create and to

[17:20] delete people with what seemed like a

[17:23] Department of Defense level budget. Now

[17:25] that we know that they engage in this

[17:26] sort of stuff, uh the media has always

[17:30] operated as the real digital assassins.

[17:34] And that really is until Yay. No one

[17:38] faced that enemy harder than Yay did.

[17:40] Not many people understood what he was

[17:42] doing. Many people still do not

[17:43] understand the battles that he fought.

[17:45] It's very difficult to understand it

[17:47] outside of his music. Like I said, uh he

[17:49] has never been accused of being a great

[17:51] order. So when he sits down for

[17:52] interviews, it sometimes a lot of times

[17:54] goes very sideways. But if you followed

[17:57] his music, you understood it. And I

[17:59] stressed this to Charlie that it's all

[18:02] about learning that as you climb the pot

[18:04] of co gold that they're going to offer

[18:06] you for your soul or to stop growing at

[18:09] a certain level gets bigger. And it also

[18:12] comes with bigger guardrails. And it's

[18:14] hard not to say yes to that. Kanye

[18:17] started as a Grammy award-winning

[18:18] producer. He was making beats for the

[18:21] biggest artists in the world. And then

[18:23] he said, "I want to be a rapper." And he

[18:25] was told, "No, keep making beats. This

[18:27] is where you are. you're great at this.

[18:29] And he said, "I don't accept that." No.

[18:32] Um, and he went on to become a

[18:33] Grammy-winning rapper. And he was a

[18:35] rapper and decided that he wanted to get

[18:37] into fashion. And he was told, "No,

[18:39] you're an artist. You're at the top of

[18:40] your game. You have everything. You

[18:42] don't belong in fashion." But he didn't

[18:44] accept that no. And he did it anyways.

[18:46] And then he created a billion dollar

[18:49] brand of sneakers, Yeezy. And then came

[18:54] even bigger offers, the Adidas and the

[18:55] Gap deals, and they were worth billions.

[18:58] And all Yay had to do to maintain that

[19:01] was to shut up about politics. And

[19:05] that was a pretty I mean, I would say

[19:09] that that's an offer that most people

[19:10] would take. Don't express just don't

[19:12] express that you like Trump. Don't talk

[19:15] about Jewish power in Hollywood or the

[19:17] messages that certain Jewish people in

[19:19] your life are sending you and you can be

[19:21] a billionaire.

[19:23] I've been in the room with those sorts

[19:25] of offers. Not billions ever offered to

[19:27] me, of course, but I definitely said no

[19:30] to a lot of millions. I've told you that

[19:31] story. It was when Kanye tweeted that he

[19:34] was about to go defcon, defcon 3 on some

[19:37] Jewish people in his life. And the

[19:39] amount of peer pressure that anybody who

[19:42] had a platform faced, make a statement

[19:44] about Kanye, call him crazy, say

[19:46] something is wrong. I remember sitting

[19:49] in that conference room. I had nothing

[19:50] to do with the statement. literally

[19:52] nothing to do with it. And despite

[19:54] everyone in the world condemning him,

[19:56] they needed me to make that statement

[19:57] because they knew I was friends with

[19:58] him. And they just wanted a simple

[20:01] message that, you know, the copy and

[20:02] pasted. I I do not abide by

[20:07] anti-semitism and all of its forms and

[20:09] what Kanye is doing is wrong. And so

[20:11] many people who were in his life made

[20:12] that statement. Uh, and I didn't. And so

[20:16] the consequence that I faced at the

[20:17] Daily Wire after a very heated

[20:20] conference where literally the co-CEO

[20:23] banged his fists was like, "Why won't

[20:25] you do this for us? Don't you realize

[20:27] how hard this is for Ben that you won't

[20:29] make a statement?" Like

[20:31] I look back on that. Could you imagine

[20:33] if I had uh sold Kanye out for Ben

[20:35] Shapiro? It's like it's funny to reflect

[20:37] on. But I held the line and um I lost

[20:41] millions because of it. Yeah. They

[20:42] changed my contract because of it. said

[20:44] they needed to build trust with me. So,

[20:48] they edited the contract and put in a

[20:50] different clause because of what Kanye

[20:52] said.

[20:53] But you have to think about that uh and

[20:55] think about yourself and if you were yay

[20:59] and you were offered billions and all

[21:01] you had to do was shut up to maintain

[21:03] it. So, be somewhat controlled. How many

[21:07] of you guys honestly would have

[21:08] acquiesed to that? probably a lot of

[21:10] people

[21:12] at maybe at this level where I'm at, the

[21:15] ask is simply um say nothing about

[21:19] Charlie Kirk's assassination

[21:21] or

[21:23] say something and pretend to be

[21:25] overwhelmed by the evidence that this

[21:28] one person did it in action alone and

[21:31] we'll give you millions, hundreds of

[21:32] thousands, who knows what the what the

[21:33] number is. Would you do it?

[21:36] I think people are doing it for a lot

[21:38] less. We know that Charlie faced that

[21:41] moment in his own life. I know he did. I

[21:43] know what Andrew told me. BB offered to

[21:46] take Turning Point to the next level.

[21:48] You You can only imagine

[21:51] the weight of what Charlie was facing in

[21:54] those final weeks of his life when he

[21:57] was at a table and offers were made to

[21:59] him. And I think we all know that he

[22:01] said no. He said no. Like Yay said no.

[22:04] Yay. Let it all burn to the ground. I

[22:06] never get tired of telling the story,

[22:07] but when those decisions were made and

[22:08] when Adidas and Gap pulled their deals

[22:10] back and he was no longer a billionaire,

[22:13] I was in tears. Seeing someone that

[22:15] you've looked up to your whole life who

[22:17] has fought and won various battles,

[22:19] really the only battle is just to to be

[22:21] himself suddenly have everything

[22:22] stripped away from him in a moment,

[22:25] including his marriage, right? The

[22:26] demise of his marriage happened at the

[22:28] exact same time. I just felt tremendous

[22:32] sadness.

[22:33] And when I spoke to him on the phone and

[22:35] I am talking I spoke to him within hours

[22:38] of that public announcement of Adidas

[22:40] making that public announcement. I will

[22:43] never forget what he said.

[22:45] He said, "I'm finally free."

[22:50] [snorts]

[22:51] I thought he was going to be upset and

[22:52] he said, "I'm finally free."

[22:54] And I always reflect on the weight and

[22:56] the courage of that statement and how it

[22:58] shaped me. Uh, of course, a year and a

[23:00] half later, it is exactly what I would

[23:02] refer to in my own mind and what I would

[23:05] tweet. Uh, when it was announced that I

[23:08] was parting from the Daily Wire, aka

[23:10] fired, I tweeted, "The rumors are true.

[23:13] I am finally free. I just wanted to be

[23:16] free. Take it all. Do what you do. Have

[23:18] the media matrix lie. Paint me as some

[23:20] villain because I said genocide is

[23:22] always wrong. ban me from Australia

[23:24] after that uh Zionist lobby of Australia

[23:27] getting me banned like I'm some threat

[23:30] to society because in politics you have

[23:32] to be pro- Israel or get destroyed and

[23:34] have your character destroyed. Um yeah,

[23:37] I had the courage to believe in myself

[23:40] and to rebuild because yay had the

[23:43] courage before me and that's what he

[23:45] means to culture and to so many people

[23:48] and boy did he rebuild and that's really

[23:51] what the concert was about. It was just

[23:53] against all odds. He had the ability to

[23:56] not sell himself out. And he resurrected

[24:00] his own career.

[24:02] Yay actually shared this meme which was

[24:04] created by one of his fans online of of

[24:06] what it felt like to those who had

[24:09] followed his story and then watched his

[24:11] return to Chicago with so many um other

[24:16] artists by his side bring brought on

[24:18] stage or in the audience like I was just

[24:20] supporting him and their take on it was

[24:22] Avengers style. Take a look at this. I

[24:24] love it.

[24:40] Avengers

[24:47] assemble. [screaming]

[24:49] This is so great.

[25:00] I just love that it's it is that he beat

[25:02] he beat cancel culture. You can't never

[25:04] take that from him. No one thought he

[25:07] was coming back after uh the last couple

[25:10] of years and how quickly he came back. I

[25:13] do also love that it's the Avengers, not

[25:16] the revengers,

[25:18] because there's an important distinction

[25:19] between the words avenge and revenge.

[25:21] And the latter, revenge, signifies a

[25:24] personal vendetta, personal malice,

[25:26] vigilante justice in a sense, wherein

[25:29] you're sort of taking the law into your

[25:30] own hands. Like there's an inherent

[25:32] anger and a selfishness in that pursuit.

[25:34] But to avenge something is different,

[25:36] right? It's cleaner. It's not angry.

[25:39] It's the restoration of moral order.

[25:42] like a a defense of the helpless. And I

[25:45] feel like in this moment, we are

[25:47] collectively avenging the public

[25:50] execution of Charlie Kirk. And I've

[25:52] said, I'm not angry anymore. I still

[25:56] would sit down with all of the

[25:58] characters in Charlie's life who I think

[26:00] are moving suspiciously. I wake up and I

[26:03] am happy every day because I think that

[26:05] it has brought people from both sides

[26:07] together like on this team of Avengers.

[26:10] Um, we all sense that what we're doing

[26:14] is about restoring moral order. That

[26:17] what happened on September 10th of last

[26:19] year cannot stand and it won't stand.

[26:23] And we all sense that and know now that

[26:26] the Department of War is seeking revenge

[26:29] on us for doing so. Revenge is not going

[26:32] to cut it. Anger is not going to cut it.

[26:35] Truth is going to wind the day. And I

[26:38] have a strong hunch, as I always have,

[26:40] that we are going to win this thing. Um,

[26:42] by the way, I love watching this clip on

[26:44] rewind because every time a new Yay song

[26:46] dropped, I would just be singing it in

[26:48] the back seat, distracting Charlie from

[26:51] driving. Here's another very quick

[26:53] installment in the Candace culturing

[26:55] Charlie chapters. Never ending chapters.

[27:02] [music]

[27:12] too many great moments. Um, a lot that

[27:16] I'm bringing up from the archives and

[27:18] I'll be sharing on September 10th and

[27:21] just seeing gay back on stage. There's

[27:23] just so much that has just come full

[27:24] circle. And even my introduction to the

[27:28] world uh to the cultural world, Charlie

[27:31] was with me, right? He was with me when

[27:33] I met Yay. He was by my side. He made it

[27:36] into the Yay documentary that was

[27:38] released last year. Um, when Yay

[27:41] introduced me on TMZ, Charlie was there.

[27:44] I mean, you can see him in the

[27:46] background if you watch the full

[27:48] interview and Yay is talking about the

[27:51] ever relevant topic of being

[27:54] intentionally deplatformed. me at the

[27:57] time. I was not being platformed by the

[27:58] hip-hop world because I didn't fit

[28:00] neatly into the box of what a black

[28:03] person was supposed to be. And uh I love

[28:06] this moment. Take a listen.

[28:08] >> Okay, so Ebro, I FaceTime and I'm there

[28:12] with Candace, right? And Ebro starts

[28:13] bringing up these his version of facts,

[28:16] right? And Candace has facts. She's

[28:18] researched, right? Candace Owens has

[28:20] facts. She's researched. And then

[28:23] Candace just pulls out her Jedi

[28:24] lightsaber and just, you know, chops

[28:26] Ebro's head off with facts. The Ebro

[28:28] FaceTimes me the next day and he's

[28:31] talking about the scoop scoop and poop.

[28:32] You want to talk about music now? I

[28:34] said, "Yo, you going to have Candace on

[28:35] your show?" He's like, "No, I'm not.

[28:37] She's mean, so you're going to stifle

[28:39] her voice, Ebro. You You're choosing to

[28:42] enslave people's minds. You're choosing

[28:44] to not let the truth be free."

[28:48] >> I just love that. And it's so funny now

[28:49] to see so many corporations and people

[28:52] that I've worked with in politics try to

[28:54] take credit or in the sort of backhanded

[28:58] way. I created Kiso. I helped to create

[29:00] the monster like deranged former CEOs

[29:03] and people. I worked with her. So I have

[29:05] some inside uh scoop on who she is. No.

[29:08] No. None of you created me. None of you

[29:10] contributed to creating me. And

[29:12] actually, if there was one person who

[29:14] could say that, he would never utter

[29:15] that statement, and that would be a like

[29:17] there, it's funny because I said that

[29:19] there there's no Candace without

[29:21] Charlie. And in many ways, there was no

[29:23] Charlie and Candace. When the the real

[29:27] storm happened and um we both were given

[29:31] this jet fuel in our careers, it was

[29:33] because of Yay. Anyway, um that's all I

[29:37] want to say about that. Just to share

[29:38] what was on my heart, my mind, and uh

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[32:58] Okay, so for months now we have been

[33:00] asking Blake Nef what feels like a very

[33:03] simple question. Where did he go after

[33:05] he landed into Salt Lake City aboard

[33:08] Charlie's jet on September 10th? Because

[33:11] despite flying in with Charlie, we know

[33:13] that Blake got into the second rental a

[33:17] Denali with Danny Phillip, perhaps some

[33:21] other people because Blake then arrived

[33:23] to the event from the back seat as if

[33:25] someone else had been sitting in the

[33:26] front seat. We know that neither Danny

[33:29] or Blake attend the restaurant event

[33:32] that morning.

[33:34] uh where Charlie gave an interview and

[33:36] we know that Blake cannot account for

[33:38] where he was. He says he was keeping

[33:41] time or something of that nature. He

[33:43] didn't even remember who he was with. He

[33:44] had to be reminded that he was with

[33:46] Danny who was driving the vehicle. Uh

[33:49] which is strange because apparently he's

[33:51] been keeping account of my vacations. He

[33:54] he's really crashing out the these days.

[33:56] He tweeted this. He hasn't been doing a

[33:58] very good job of keeping track of them,

[33:59] but he did tweet this um over the last

[34:01] couple of days. Candace finds it

[34:03] implausible and ridiculous that Charlie

[34:05] would be excited about his largest

[34:07] campus tour ever because it was also his

[34:09] job. Somehow I am not surprised that

[34:11] Candace seven vacations a year Owens

[34:15] can't imagine someone liking work.

[34:19] Okay. So, I understand that it could be

[34:22] hard for a 36-year-old incel who has no

[34:26] prospects, no family, no kids to imagine

[34:30] that someone might prioritize their

[34:32] family and their friends uh above

[34:34] podcasting. But just to set the record

[34:36] straight, if you're going to avail

[34:37] yourself to tracking my time spent

[34:39] traveling, please put your best foot

[34:40] forward, Blakey, and do it accurately.

[34:42] Thus far this year, we've taken a total

[34:44] of three vacations. our family holiday

[34:45] to Spain, our partial family trip to

[34:48] Russia because we didn't take the

[34:50] youngest um because of the intensity of

[34:52] the flight, and my 7-year anniversary

[34:54] trip to Iceland fishing with my husband.

[34:56] And for clarity, if Charlie's death has

[34:59] taught me, and I hope everyone back at

[35:01] home anything, I probably didn't take

[35:04] enough time off, right? Charlie rarely

[35:06] took time off. We have obviously tracked

[35:09] all of his dates, all of his

[35:10] appearances. He was hardly home. He gave

[35:13] everything to build the very

[35:15] organization that now seeks to lie about

[35:17] who he was and actually seeks to make

[35:19] him appear as though he himself was a

[35:21] liar. They've not been honest or

[35:23] forthcoming about what he was up against

[35:25] in his final days, what his struggles

[35:26] were, who he was fighting. Uh and yeah,

[35:31] he he fed that monster. I'm not going to

[35:34] make the same mistake of thinking that

[35:36] bigger somehow means better. I think my

[35:38] team uh is trustworthy. That's why I

[35:42] like to keep my team small. I think

[35:44] that's the benefit of having a small

[35:45] team is that you have a people that you

[35:48] know and they're going to continue to

[35:50] get time off because they work hard when

[35:52] we're on air. I expect 100% from them

[35:55] when they are here and then I expect

[35:56] them to enjoy their real lives. Outside

[35:58] of me, I don't do the Erica Kirk, you're

[36:00] my family thing. I'm not their family.

[36:02] Um, and they should go home to their

[36:05] families, work hard, and live a good

[36:08] life, especially after this year, right?

[36:10] this has been the most emotionally

[36:12] taxing year of my life. They have stood

[36:13] by me through that. Uh and so Blake,

[36:17] you're just sort of off the mark uh with

[36:19] trying to tell people that somehow they

[36:22] should be wanting to dedicate their

[36:23] lives more in the way that Charlie did.

[36:26] And clearly clearly judging by your

[36:28] actions, the things that you have said,

[36:30] you were not worth that investment.

[36:33] Also, I have to draw you guys your

[36:35] attention to this. This is wacky. Okay,

[36:37] so they're all sort of giving these

[36:39] interviews right now coming up upon the

[36:41] one-year anniversary. And Blake Nef

[36:42] spoke to Desireette News, which is in

[36:46] Utah. It's like a local news in in Utah.

[36:49] And here's what it says. It says, "Nef,

[36:52] we did a I guess it's supposed to be

[36:52] like a profile piece. Nef remembers

[36:55] sitting in the waiting room at the Oram,

[36:57] Utah hospital where Kirk was taken on

[36:59] September 10th and talking about how

[37:02] podcaster Candace Owens would react to

[37:05] Charlie's death. He said Charlie was

[37:08] aware of Owens's theories about Francis

[37:10] first lady being transgender as well as

[37:13] what he described as weird stuff about

[37:15] Jewish cults and that some of her views

[37:17] were part of the reason that TPUSA had

[37:19] become less involved with Owens around

[37:21] 2024.

[37:23] Now they're quoting him. Someone said

[37:26] Candace is going to have an extreme

[37:28] reaction to this. And instantly I was

[37:30] like, "Yeah, yeah, she will."

[37:36] I'm sorry. What?

[37:39] I want to remind you guys, I don't know

[37:41] this creature. I've never met Blake Nef.

[37:43] I have. He has never He He doesn't know

[37:45] Charlie the most of everyone in this

[37:46] story. He has spent the least amount of

[37:48] time with Charlie. He himself says that

[37:50] he didn't join Charlie's team until what

[37:53] was it mid 2023. So he knew Charlie for

[37:55] a year and a half. I did. I never came

[37:57] across him. He's out in Arizona. I'm in

[37:58] Tennessee.

[38:01] You're having a conversation about how

[38:02] Candace will react and conspiracy

[38:05] theories while you're sitting in the

[38:06] hospital and you just found out that

[38:08] Charlie's dead. Why are you not a

[38:10] conspiracy theorist in that moment? This

[38:12] is in the middle of the manhunt. Nobody

[38:14] knew anything. You guys are already

[38:17] having conversations

[38:19] about how other people are going to

[38:21] react rather than reacting yourselves

[38:24] and going, "Who could have done this?"

[38:27] Does that make sense to Is there

[38:28] something very wacky and bizarre about

[38:30] that conversation that he's now

[38:32] admitting to? He won't name the person,

[38:34] which makes me think usually when he

[38:37] develops his amnesia, it's usually about

[38:39] Danny Phillip for some reason. Maybe

[38:41] it's about someone else. I don't know

[38:42] that for a fact, obviously. But that's

[38:44] their conversation. Oh, Candace is going

[38:47] to have a reaction to Charlie being

[38:51] murdered.

[38:53] Candace is going to have a very strong

[38:55] reaction to Charlie being murdered.

[38:58] I'm sitting in the waiting room. That's

[38:59] the first thought. This girl that I

[39:00] don't know is going to have a strong

[39:03] reaction. Why are you not having a

[39:05] strong reaction? Why are you not in that

[39:07] moment going, "Oh my gosh, who could

[39:09] have done this? Who were his enemies?"

[39:11] Um, what did he say last night? Blake,

[39:13] why didn't you say, "Oh, well,

[39:16] Andrew says that Charlie was worried

[39:19] someone was going to kill him. Who could

[39:20] this who could have done this? Why are

[39:23] you guys not imagining the scenarios,

[39:25] coming up with answers? Why does it feel

[39:26] like you already know it's not a

[39:28] conspiracy

[39:30] as Charlie's in the hospital? This is

[39:32] very odd. This is a very odd admission

[39:34] from Blake that they were worried about

[39:36] me. And there's a reason they were

[39:38] worried about me because they should

[39:40] have been worried about me.

[39:43] They knew that I would never bend the

[39:44] knee to this.

[39:46] I would never bend the knee to a dumb

[39:50] story, the cookie cutter story that

[39:52] someone climbed on a rooftop who had

[39:54] never committed any even petty crimes in

[39:57] their life who took just one shot out of

[40:00] just pure confidence, not even a couple

[40:02] of shots to make sure they hit him and

[40:04] then scaled the rooftop. So maybe that's

[40:07] why they were concerned. It it started

[40:08] to feel like

[40:12] Blake for some reason had confidence

[40:16] and knew that I would not trust the

[40:20] science on Charlie's assassination.

[40:22] That's what I get from that admission.

[40:26] Canis is not going to just trust the

[40:28] narrative and the science. I really do

[40:30] wonder who he was speaking to. Blake

[40:32] always says too much because Blake wants

[40:34] to be a star despite the fact that he

[40:36] has no talent. And I find that admission

[40:38] to be strange. In other news, uh Erica,

[40:42] if you have not seen it, released an

[40:45] op-ed in the New York Times, uh a

[40:48] one-year look back on her grief, which

[40:50] we kind of never saw displayed publicly.

[40:53] The contrary, we just saw an Erica who

[40:55] wanted to move on to be the CEO, but now

[40:57] she's writing an article about her

[40:59] grief. And I'm going to be honest with

[41:00] you, it's another terrible installment

[41:02] in the never- ending book of PR

[41:04] blunders. Let's start with the fact that

[41:05] she's even doing this in the New York

[41:07] Times. Like, and it's behind a payw

[41:10] wall. Okay. Uh she just continues to

[41:14] partner with a publication that her

[41:17] deceased husband hated. This was the

[41:19] first publication she partnered with.

[41:20] She opened their apartment to an

[41:24] in-person interview and sat down with

[41:26] them. What was it, two days after

[41:29] Charlie's assassination? Charlie never

[41:31] wrote an op-ed for the New York Times.

[41:32] His opinion of them is long documented

[41:36] all throughout his career. Um, he

[41:38] perceived them as what they are, a

[41:40] fixure, a fixture of the the deep state

[41:42] apparatus. He registered himself as

[41:46] opposed to their perspectives. Um, and

[41:49] he would read the New York Times so that

[41:51] he knew what their perspectives were.

[41:52] Take a listen to one of many clips, like

[41:54] I said, they're endless, where that you

[41:56] could find Charlie Kirk speaking about

[41:59] how and why he consumed the New York

[42:02] Times and how he consumed the New York

[42:03] Times. Take a listen.

[42:05] >> So, there's a new story out of the New

[42:07] York Times, and I'm not really sure what

[42:09] to make of this. It's possible the New

[42:10] York Times is actually telling the

[42:12] truth. I have the New York Times right

[42:14] here. I read it so you don't have to.

[42:15] Every morning I'm reading the New York

[42:17] Times,

[42:18] the paper of record.

[42:21] I always uh I always get a kick out of

[42:24] it. The New York Times.

[42:27] All the news that's fit to print. That's

[42:28] right there on on the New York Times. I

[42:31] get some really nasty emails. Charlie,

[42:33] why do you read the New York Times?

[42:34] Because I I want to know what the

[42:35] Intelligencia is saying. It's also the

[42:37] the I think it has the most circulation

[42:39] of any newspaper in the country.

[42:40] Actually, the Wall Street Journal might

[42:41] have more, but anyway, you should know

[42:43] what the other side is saying.

[42:46] >> Always same perspective that he held.

[42:48] Somehow immediately that was something

[42:49] she reversed course on and felt

[42:51] comfortable having them in her home.

[42:52] Okay, fine. So, right off the bat, we're

[42:54] just going why is this in the New York

[42:56] Times? Why is it behind a payw wall and

[42:59] why can't you just do anything that

[43:00] feels normal and as Charlie was? I guess

[43:03] you've been honest. It's just turning

[43:04] point 2.0. It has nothing to do with

[43:06] turning point 1.0. It's a totally

[43:07] different organization. It's

[43:08] unattainable. You work with the

[43:09] Department of War. You work with the

[43:10] deep state apparatus. You are their

[43:12] emotional asset. We get it. It just

[43:14] feels like you're laying it on thick and

[43:15] like maybe you could have just published

[43:17] a Substack here that if I'm running your

[43:19] PR, hey, just do a Substack about how

[43:21] you feel. Don't put it behind a payw

[43:22] wall. What you've learned about grief,

[43:24] okay? And you get into the article and

[43:26] you're like a couple of lines down and

[43:29] she's once again mentioning the Vance

[43:31] family. This has felt like one long

[43:34] promotional event for the Vance family.

[43:37] It's like the deepest thing that she can

[43:39] only reach so deep as what Usha Vance

[43:41] said to her on the plane, right? And she

[43:45] remarks and

[43:48] it's September 11th, 2025, a day after

[43:50] my husband Charlie Kirk was shot and

[43:52] killed. The past 24 hours feel like a

[43:54] fever dream. As I land in Phoenix from

[43:56] Utah and return home, I get out of the

[43:57] car and my kids run into my arms. They

[44:00] have no idea where I was or what I was

[44:01] doing. They care only that I'm home. As

[44:04] I walk to the front door, there's a

[44:05] tightening in my chest I don't

[44:06] recognize. Is this what grief feels

[44:08] like? I sit on the couch where Charlie

[44:10] sat two nights ago watching the Cubs

[44:12] with our kids. I feel a wave building

[44:14] inside of me. I know it's about to

[44:16] crash. I don't know how I'm going to do

[44:18] this. I told Second Lady Usha Vance

[44:20] earlier that day and she held my hand

[44:22] and she said, "You know, when you're on

[44:24] an airplane with your kids and you're

[44:25] going to land in 15 minutes, but the

[44:27] kids are going crazy, screaming,

[44:28] throwing things, and then the plane

[44:30] lands and the kids relax and everything

[44:31] is fine again. That's how it will be.

[44:34] Just get through the next 15 minutes.

[44:36] Her words are seared into my heart.

[44:38] They're not just seared into your heart.

[44:39] They're seared into the first speech

[44:41] that you gave. They're seared into uh

[44:43] the conference call that you said at

[44:44] Turning Point USA. We just keep hearing

[44:46] this over and over again. And we're at

[44:48] the one year anniversary and I'm

[44:49] thinking when I open this like surely

[44:51] they hired someone you like who could

[44:54] put something that's a tearjerker

[44:55] together. we're going to read this and

[44:57] we're going to see a side of Erica that

[44:58] we haven't seen and not something that

[45:00] constantly feels like an advertisement

[45:02] for someone else and feels political and

[45:04] controlled. You're not getting that from

[45:06] this article. It's everything you've

[45:07] already heard. In fact, I think that if

[45:10] you had challenged chat GPT to write

[45:13] something more emotional, chat GP GPT

[45:16] could have risen to the moment without

[45:18] question. Without question. It would

[45:20] said, "This is stuff you've already

[45:21] said. You could have back forth

[45:22] conversation with Claude. the stuff

[45:24] you've already said. I would probably

[45:25] try to reach a little deeper. Um, they

[45:28] have seen this surface level of you. We

[45:31] we know you love Vance. You you opened

[45:34] Amfest and said, "We got to get Vance

[45:36] elected. He's defending. We get that.

[45:39] Can we maybe something Charlie said to

[45:41] you that stuck with you? Maybe something

[45:42] else you learned beyond that first day

[45:44] from the second lady aboard another

[45:46] private plane talking about previous

[45:48] private planes that you were on because

[45:50] they always traveled private. Charlie

[45:52] was traveling private to all of his

[45:54] events, right? We know this. So, she's

[45:56] like, "The last 15 minutes like it's

[45:57] supposed to be relatable when you're

[45:59] flying private. You're on Air Force 2.

[46:02] This is like the not the most relatable

[46:04] thing that you could share." And then

[46:06] she goes on and she it's just it's just

[46:08] a regurgitation of everything she's

[46:10] already said. She wants you to know

[46:12] she's not angry at God. Yes, we got all

[46:14] of this from the Jesse Waters interview.

[46:16] She writes, "Grief is strange. Time

[46:19] continues even when every part of you

[46:21] wants it to pause or better yet rewind.

[46:23] But the people we love who have passed

[46:25] on would not want us to spend the rest

[46:26] of our lives trying to rewind. At first,

[46:29] I needed to survive the next 15 minutes

[46:31] again. Here we are. Thank you, Vance

[46:34] family. Over time, I've realized that

[46:36] Charlie would want me to live them. Over

[46:39] time, you were living within

[46:43] six days laughing at emojis.

[46:47] were laughing at emojis on a Zoom call.

[46:49] I thought you were in bed, that you you

[46:51] couldn't sleep, that you couldn't eat,

[46:55] potentially had to drug yourself to

[46:56] sleep. You were just giggling at emojis.

[46:59] And then you told us that told Jesse

[47:02] Wars interview that you didn't even need

[47:04] a sleeping pill. You didn't even need to

[47:05] take melatonin. You just like fell

[47:07] asleep because you knew God had you. And

[47:09] she stresses that. Over time, I've

[47:11] realized Charlie would want me to live.

[47:13] Occasionally, I'm asked whether I'm

[47:15] angry at God. I say no. My husband was

[47:18] one of one. I was blessed to be his wife

[47:19] and I understood his assignment here on

[47:21] earth. Again, this is a regurgitation of

[47:22] the speech that she gave on stage. So,

[47:25] what's the purpose of this? What is the

[47:28] purpose of this other than to make money

[47:30] for the New York Times, which is a part

[47:32] of the deep state apparatus factually

[47:34] speaking? Operation mockingbird. The New

[47:36] York Times was involved in that after

[47:38] they committed another a different state

[47:40] assassination, the assassination of JFK.

[47:43] So, here she is helping them get

[47:44] signups,

[47:47] running counter to how her husband felt

[47:48] about this publication.

[47:51] She closes this.

[47:53] I'm not kidding. This is the last these

[47:54] are the last three lines.

[47:58] I will tell you what a dear friend,

[47:59] she's saying, and to put this in context

[48:01] of if you are living through grief, I

[48:03] won't tell you what to feel or that

[48:05] tomorrow will be better than today. I

[48:07] will tell you what a dear friend told

[48:09] me. just get through the next 15

[48:12] minutes.

[48:13] Vance, Vances, Vance. One day, maybe

[48:17] when you least expect it, you'll start

[48:18] to see those 15 minutes hold more than

[48:19] just grief. The grief is there always,

[48:22] but so is the beautiful gift of life.

[48:24] And like I said, you can read this

[48:25] article in its entirety. I was expecting

[48:28] that they would have hired someone who I

[48:31] don't know like Nicholas Sparks.

[48:34] Nicholas Sparks is available, right? I

[48:35] haven't know if he's written a recent

[48:37] book. Notebook was beautiful. They could

[48:40] have they've got a lot of money. I don't

[48:41] know why the Department of War hasn't

[48:42] used Nicholas Sparks to write this and

[48:44] then we would go okay like maybe she was

[48:46] just being weird and roboty and like

[48:49] this is you learn nothing about Charlie

[48:51] in this. It feels just very fake like I

[48:57] said very surface. There's never any

[48:58] substance to anything and they had an

[49:00] opportunity to do that. Uh even after we

[49:03] have to get through the fact that it's

[49:05] the New York Times and it's behind a

[49:07] payw wall and they missed it. So, this

[49:09] was another missed opportunity from

[49:10] Turning Point USA. Um, but we'll see

[49:13] what we're looking forward to whatever

[49:15] it is they're going to put together for

[49:18] Friday um uh at U Thursday, pardon me at

[49:22] UVU. I I guess I don't know who's been

[49:25] listed as speaking at that event. I

[49:27] think Glenn Beck. Is Erica speaking

[49:29] there? I don't know. We will continue to

[49:31] follow. We'll be right back after a

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[52:43] uh to dropping some figurative bombs on

[52:46] the narrative that we have been told um

[52:49] from the Fed sloppers, so to speak. top

[52:52] comments from last episode. We did this

[52:55] obviously thank thanks to text messages

[52:58] being released. We were able to reveal

[53:00] that for whatever reason Charlie was

[53:02] sending messages that they're going to

[53:04] kill him when he was on this Zoom call

[53:08] with Israel with Israeli officials as

[53:11] Frank Turk termed them. That came from

[53:13] Frank Turk. There were two Israeli

[53:15] officials. We know like from Israel.

[53:17] Then we know that Rabbi Wiki was on the

[53:20] FaceTime call. Uh, sorry I'm saying

[53:22] FaceTime. I meant Zoom call because he

[53:25] was in Arizona at the time. Uh, we've

[53:27] got Josh Hammer and we're supposed to

[53:29] believe this massive call which came on

[53:31] the heels two just two hours after

[53:33] Charlie said he was abandoning the

[53:35] pro-Israel cause. And no, he was not

[53:37] kidding. It was not tongue-in-cheek

[53:38] because I spoke to his wife about it and

[53:40] she never said that he was kidding or

[53:41] that it was tongue and cheek. She

[53:42] admitted that that happened. She was

[53:44] getting her nails done uh when this was

[53:46] going on. That story is now changing. We

[53:48] know it wasn't tongue and cheek because

[53:50] Andrew Kovc gave that conversation to

[53:52] Tulsi Gabbard's office. So we clearly

[53:54] knew and thought that there was

[53:56] something that should be explored about

[53:58] the nature of that conversation.

[54:00] Otherwise, you wouldn't give it to Tulsi

[54:01] Gabbard's office if everybody's joking.

[54:03] You had a friendly conversation

[54:04] thereafter.

[54:06] That was not the case. Turning Point

[54:08] continues to speak and we continue to

[54:09] timeline. Anyway, top comments from yes

[54:12] from last episode regarding that from

[54:13] the audacity. They wrote, "The only

[54:15] reason you don't tell your spouse that

[54:17] you're afraid of something like being

[54:18] murdered is because you don't trust

[54:19] them." And yes, it's relevant that Erica

[54:22] when she g gave interviews thereafter

[54:24] said that Charlie was just excited the

[54:26] night before. Weird for him to be

[54:28] fearful that he was going to die, but so

[54:30] excited that he couldn't sleep. I feel

[54:32] like maybe there was something else

[54:34] going on there. No, I do not believe

[54:37] that Charlie was excited about doing a

[54:38] UVU event. I'm sorry. I've done too many

[54:40] tour stops him. traveled with him too

[54:41] much to believe that he was that excited

[54:43] about something that he's always done

[54:45] and that it would cause him not to be

[54:47] able to sleep. That's that's a high

[54:48] level of excitement uh for an adult to

[54:51] experience for something that he's

[54:53] always done at a place that he already

[54:54] did it at. He already had done a UVU

[54:56] stop

[54:57] >> [snorts]

[54:57] >> uh multiple times throughout his career.

[54:59] This was nothing new. Anyway, we are to

[55:02] believe that Erica had no idea that he

[55:04] had any fears the night before. I find

[55:07] that very hard to believe and I know

[55:09] that you guys do too. Noah writes, "The

[55:11] fact that Charlie sent those messages

[55:12] while on Zoom with Israel is absolutely

[55:14] bone chilling. It sent a shiver down my

[55:16] spine." It should. It does to me as

[55:18] well. It is another piece of course in

[55:21] this puzzle. And it certainly does not

[55:26] register as true to me that Charlie had

[55:28] to speak to Israeli officials at 4:00

[55:30] a.m. in the morning, their time, to help

[55:32] him with debate. Charlie was pretty good

[55:34] at debating. I don't think he needed

[55:36] this much help from so many people. It

[55:39] just doesn't make any Frank Turks on the

[55:40] call like is he is he some grand

[55:42] debater? Is he known to be a phenomenal

[55:44] debater? It's just all such a nonsense

[55:47] that many people giving tips on debate

[55:49] and also you know he like Josh Hammer

[55:53] said he just was really interested in

[55:54] Josh Hammer's book. He just he wanted to

[55:56] know more about that comments on today's

[55:59] episode. Uh this user writes, "Keep

[56:01] going. You've got this. Love from

[56:02] Stanford, Connecticut, my hometown.

[56:03] Thank you. Love to see you guys here. Uh

[56:06] Ali writes, "Andrew Judith Kovette tried

[56:08] to make an excuse for the fireworks at

[56:10] the memorial and said, quote, "The team

[56:12] set that up and Erica didn't know."

[56:14] Well, did they also force her to wear a

[56:16] sparkling pants suit? Yeah, I think she

[56:19] got the message and the theme and she

[56:21] chose her attire accordingly. M. Sanders

[56:24] writes, "Please consider pre-recording

[56:26] shows to get us through your maternity

[56:27] leave. Then withdrawals are going to be

[56:29] a whole Vive Crisis King. I will be

[56:31] announcing soon who is going to take

[56:34] over my show three days a week while I

[56:37] am on maternity leave. I'll probably

[56:39] make an announcement next week. I think

[56:42] you guys will be happy uh with my

[56:44] decision. M Sanders, oh, I just read

[56:47] that. Uh, this user writes, "Salem Media

[56:49] Waterstone is releasing a Charlie Kirk

[56:51] documentary with an alleged unreleased

[56:53] interview filmed shortly before

[56:55] September 10th called Can Youar Me Now

[56:58] on September 10th of this year." Yeah,

[57:01] Salem Media and Water St. um they are

[57:04] acquiring Salem Media. That's

[57:06] interesting because we know that Salem

[57:08] Media is behind or the the Faradox the

[57:12] filings immediately after Charlie died.

[57:14] We went over that in an earlier episode.

[57:16] uh the Israeli foreign minister getting

[57:18] involved in spending money in America to

[57:21] give us the October 7th experience to

[57:23] tether Christians further. Their

[57:25] apparatus has been Salem Media and they

[57:28] gave that money because they wanted to

[57:29] see results. Brad Parcale I believe was

[57:32] on the board of Salem Media or he was at

[57:34] least um an executive at Salem Media who

[57:36] brought this forward. So I will assume

[57:40] that that is going to be Israeli

[57:41] propaganda just judging by the faradox

[57:45] faith by works LLC and the like. Lin

[57:49] Maria writes, "Though we mourn and

[57:50] grieve, Charlie Kirk is finally free." I

[57:53] love that. That is beautiful and well

[57:54] said. And like I said, he died with his

[57:56] soul intact because I know whatever he

[57:57] was offered, he said no to. I don't give

[58:00] a dam writes. Blake Nef would call a hot

[58:03] dog a sandwich and then wonder why

[58:04] nobody invites him to the deli.

[58:08] >> [laughter]

[58:10] >> Just love that. Jessica Coats writes, "I

[58:12] basically checked myself out of the

[58:14] hospital to make sure that I did not

[58:15] miss your show. I just walked in the

[58:16] door. Battle bun ready." I see. Keep

[58:19] going, Max. Candace, we No. No. Well, we

[58:22] will definitely be able to pull out some

[58:25] threads this week, as we should, leading

[58:27] up um to the one-year anniversary of

[58:32] Charlie's passing. and we're going to be

[58:34] hit with just I can't even imagine how

[58:36] much money they are going to be spending

[58:38] on attacking me as they always do when

[58:41] they should be focused on just getting

[58:42] to the truth. Um they are now working

[58:44] with it just seems like now they're

[58:46] working with like drug addicts like I

[58:47] don't know their new pocket of

[58:49] influencers just seems remarkably

[58:52] trailer trash in my view. Um like I said

[58:54] you sense their desperation. They know

[58:56] nobody believes them. Nobody certainly

[58:58] believes that they're carrying on

[58:59] Charlie's legacy in any fashion um in

[59:02] any manner or fashion because they just

[59:04] seem to do everything that runs counter

[59:06] to what Charlie expressed his desires

[59:08] were publicly. And um yeah, so it's

[59:12] going to be a week. Buckle in. [snorts]

[59:14] We have a lot of stuff to share and uh I

[59:17] look forward I look forward to it and I

[59:19] certainly will be getting into the

[59:21] Charlie and Candace archives which has

[59:24] been a very emotional journey. I will

[59:26] leave it at that and we will see you

[59:29] guys tomorrow.

[59:34] [music]