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Candace Owens Reveals Where Tyler Robinson Went After Assassination: FBI Ignored Credit Card Trail to Steakhouse
Candace Owens exclusively reveals Tyler Robinson drove three hours to Panguitch, Utah after allegedly assassinating Charlie Kirk, calmly ordering a medium-rare steak at Cowboys Smokehouse while texting. Despite restaurant staff identifying him and providing credit card receipts to the FBI, investigators never visited the location. Owens traces new connections between Turning Point USA insiders, the Farnsworth political family, Tyler Bowyer, and Fort Huachuca, uncovering ties spanning Arizona politics, defense contracts, and child sex trafficking legislation. She updates the assassination timeline and questions why federal investigators show no interest in following obvious leads that contradict their lone-gunman narrative.
Tyler Robinson's Post-Assassination Meal: Three Hours and a Steak
Candace Owens can exclusively confirm that Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, drove approximately three hours from Orem, Utah to Panguitch, Utah following the shooting. Robinson pulled into Cowboys Smokehouse on North Main Street, seated himself at the bar, and ordered a medium-rare steak with mashed potatoes and vegetables. Three servers were working that night, and when news broke the following day with Robinson's photo circulating after his capture 33 hours later, one server immediately recognized him as the customer from the previous evening.
The server and management huddled together, certain of the identification. Though the restaurant lacked security cameras, they verified Robinson's presence through credit card charges. Robinson had used his credit card to pay for his meal, despite allegedly attempting to cover his tracks in messages to his roommate about wanting to get away with the crime. The restaurant responsibly contacted federal investigators and filed a report, providing the literal receipt proving Robinson's presence.
What Owens finds most troubling is what happened next, or rather, what didn't happen. Federal investigators never visited Cowboys Smokehouse to interview staff, examine the scene, or check surrounding businesses for camera footage. The trail went cold immediately. According to the lawyer Owens spoke with representing Erika Kirk as the victim, investigators are supposed to be gathering information to prove their case independently. Yet there appears to be no interest in pursuing this lead that directly contradicts the narrative of a panicked shooter on the run.
The Credit Card Question and the Perfect ACT Score
Robinson's behavior raises fundamental questions about the official narrative. Here was a 19-year-old who had allegedly just committed his first murder, scaling a rooftop at a university he never attended to assassinate a political figure in broad daylight. Yet rather than showing signs of adrenaline, fear, or physical illness that might be expected from such an act, Robinson calmly drove three hours, sat at a bar counter, and ordered dinner while texting on his phone.
The servers described Robinson as not very talkative but appearing absolutely fine and normal. He seemed calm, not scared, just hungry. After finishing his meal around 9:30 p.m., he left. Staff suspect he may have gone to his grandmother's house afterward, as she lives in the Panguitch area and locals are familiar with her. Robinson's grandmother was one of the first people to speak out publicly, insisting investigators had the wrong person and that her grandson does not fire guns.
Perhaps most puzzling is Robinson's use of a credit card despite allegedly planning this assassination. Robinson had a perfect ACT score and maintained a 4.0 GPA, demonstrating exceptional intelligence and planning ability. He supposedly thought through how to scale rooftops and position himself for the shooting. Yet it apparently never occurred to him to withdraw cash from an ATM to avoid leaving a digital trail. For someone of his intellectual caliber who had never been in trouble and had no criminal record, this oversight seems inconsistent with the meticulous planning the crime would have required.
Updated Timeline: From Dairy Queen to Steakhouse
Owens presented an updated timeline of events from the day of the assassination, noting that the Dairy Queen stop must have occurred earlier than initially documented to allow the three-hour drive to Panguitch:
- 5:30 p.m. - Press conference occurs
- 5:59 p.m. - Kash Patel tweets that the subject in custody has been released, correcting an earlier erroneous tweet
- After 6:00 p.m. - First correspondence between Tyler and Lance believed to have taken place
- 6:38 p.m. (or possibly 5:38 p.m. with time zone adjustment) - Photo captured at Dairy Queen showing Robinson disposing of clothes
- Approximately 8:45 p.m. - Tyler Robinson arrives at Cowboys Smokehouse in Panguitch, Utah
- Around 9:30 p.m. - Robinson leaves the restaurant
Owens noted she is working to be more precise with the Dairy Queen timestamp, investigating whether it needs to be adjusted by an hour due to time zone considerations. The timeline suggests Robinson went to Dairy Queen shortly after the shooting to dispose of evidence, then made the three-hour journey south to Panguitch.
Robinson Called Out of Work Citing His Grandmother
Owens revealed another exclusive detail: Tyler Robinson called out of work on both January 10th and 11th. On the 10th, he cited needing to help his grandmother move furniture as his excuse. On the 11th, he called out very early in the morning claiming food poisoning. Robinson was working at Wild Electric in Santa Clara, Utah at the time.
The repeated use of his grandmother as an excuse, combined with his suspected visit to her Panguitch home the night of the assassination, creates a pattern worth investigating. Owens emphasized that if she had unlimited resources in the form of taxpayer dollars like state and federal investigators, she would certainly be looking into whether Robinson went to his grandmother's house that night and what she might know about his activities.
The Farnsworth-Boyer Connection: Deep Arizona Political Ties
Owens shifted focus to what she describes as an increasingly suspicious web of connections surrounding Turning Point USA insiders and Arizona political families. She has maintained from the beginning that something felt wrong about Terryl Farnsworth, the AV company operator who was at the hospital and seized the cameras. Following her initial phone call with him, Owens told her team, "That man is guilty of something."
The investigation has now revealed that Terryl Farnsworth and Tyler Bowyer go way back on a generational level. Their parents went to high school together in Chandler, Arizona. Terrell and Tyler themselves attended Gilbert High School together, graduating two years apart. These two are, as Owens describes it, "thicker than thieves."
Tyler Bowyer, as he stated at Charlie Kirk's memorial, was the youngest chairman of the Republican Party and was instrumental in convincing Charlie to move Turning Point USA's operations from Chicago to Arizona. He hosted the first Trump rally in Arizona in July 2015, which becomes significant in understanding the broader network of relationships.
The Farnsworth Political Dynasty and Defense Contracts
Terryl Farnsworth's family has deep roots in Arizona politics. His father is Dwayne Farnsworth, whose first cousins are longtime Arizona Congressman Eddie Farnsworth and Senator David Farnsworth. Eddie served as chairman of the state house judiciary committee before leaving office in 2022, while David Farnsworth remains in office.
These connections intersect directly with Erika Kirk's family. In 2014, Senator David Farnsworth introduced Erica's mother, Lori Frantzve, to the House floor regarding concerns over EMPs (electromagnetic pulses). At the time, David Farnsworth was sponsoring the bill, and Eddie Farnsworth is listed as having voted on it. Lori Frantzve was then CEO of GTech Industries. The bill passed with their support.
The Farnsworths, the Boyers, and the Frantzves have known each other since at least 2014 on paper, though Owens suspects the relationships go back further. These families have intertwined business, political, and personal connections spanning years. When Owens asked Erika Kirk how she met Tyler Bowyer, Erica initially said they met at the 2015 Trump rally because they were both standing behind Trump. Owens immediately corrected her, pointing out that Tyler himself had stated at Charlie's memorial that Erica called him asking how she could get involved, and he then made the decision to put her behind Donald Trump at that rally.
Erica later said she would look through old messages because, like Owens, she never deletes anything. She thought they might have had a connection in politics via a senator or congressman, which would align with the Farnsworth family ties.
Eddie Farnsworth and the Child Sex Trafficking Bill
Eddie Farnsworth emerges as a particularly interesting figure in this network. In 2013, while serving as chair of the House Judiciary Committee, he blocked a hearing on a bill designed to prevent child sex trafficking. The bill had bipartisan support, addressing the serious problem of child sex trafficking in Arizona due to its proximity to the border. The legislation specifically targeted trafficking of 15 and 16-year-olds.
What made Eddie Farnsworth's blocking of this bill especially controversial was his family history. Years earlier, his nephew Albert Farnsworth had been in the news for raping a 13-year-old. Despite this background and the bipartisan support for anti-trafficking measures, Eddie Farnsworth prevented the bill from coming to the floor for a vote.
Owens noted that in her entire career covering political stories, she has never worked on a single investigation where the theme of child sex trafficking has emerged more frequently. Whether it's the owners of the private planes (the 888 plane operators run an anti-child sex trafficking charity and wear Operation Underground Railroad t-shirts in their profile pictures), or Tim Ballard's Operation Underground Railroad receiving donations after the assassination, or Fort Huachuca base being caught up in a child pornography ring, the theme keeps appearing.
Fort Huachuca and the Child Pornography Scandal
Fort Huachuca, the military base that came up in witness Mitch's account of seeing what appeared to be a mission briefing on September 9th, has its own disturbing history with child exploitation. CBS News reported on how the US Army missed red flags about a civilian leader who led a child pornography ring and risked US security.
The individual, David Rodsham, was a top civilian commander at a US air base in Afghanistan. After leaving his post, he returned to Fort Huachuca, a major Army installation in Arizona. This is the same base located just outside where Turning Point USA established its campus, directly across from Arizona Mills, which has been identified as a hotspot for child sex trafficking.
Owens was careful to emphasize she is making no connection suggesting Turning Point USA is involved in trafficking children. She is simply documenting that everywhere she looks in this investigation, themes of child sex trafficking emerge. It's a pattern she finds deeply disturbing and worth noting.
Could Eddie Farnsworth Be the Mystery Congressman?
When Owens looked up photos of Eddie Farnsworth, she was struck by his resemblance to Congressman Mark Amodei, who had initially been identified as potentially matching witness Mitch's description of a man who appeared to be a congressman at the Fort Huachuca meeting. Mitch had described someone 5'9" with glasses and grayish-white hair.
After reviewing the full 12-hour House committee video from the day in question, Owens concluded that Mark Amodei's story checks out. While he did miss the first two roll calls, he appears on camera early in the hearing, sitting in his chair. The image is blurry, but it appears to be Amodei present before the roll call. Owens stated she is not trying to make someone fit into the story but rather wants to find the right person and eliminate the wrong people.
However, Eddie Farnsworth is, in Owens' words, "a dead ringer" for Mark Amodei. When she sent Mitch a photo of Eddie Farnsworth, he responded that the man looks very familiar. The Farnsworth family also has deep military ties, which could explain presence at Fort Huachuca. Owens is not making a definitive accusation but wants to explore whether this could be a connection worth investigating further.
The September 9th Arizona Commanders Summit
Adding another layer to the Fort Huachuca angle, Owens discovered that Arizona politicians traveled to Davis-Monthan Air Force Base for their annual Commanders Summit on September 9th. This base is located in Tucson, just over an hour north of Fort Huachuca. The summit provides an opportunity for military commanders and Arizona community leaders to discuss topics impacting military installations.
While this could be coincidence, it would provide a plausible reason for Arizona political figures to be in that region on that specific date. The timing aligns with Mitch's account of witnessing what appeared to be a mission briefing at Fort Huachuca on September 9th, two days before Charlie Kirk's assassination on January 11th.
Terryl Farnsworth's Father-in-Law and the FBI Car Rental
Internet researchers discovered another connection that Owens found significant. Terryl Farnsworth's father-in-law is Thomas Bert, who ran Duncan Aviation as executive vice president and COO for 22 years before retiring in 2019. Duncan Aviation is the FBO (fixed-base operator) that rented cars for federal investigators.
These interconnections, Owens argues, are too numerous to ignore. The Farnsworth family, the Boyer family, defense contracts through Erica's mother's companies, Arizona political figures, and military installations all form a web that deserves deeper exploration. Owens emphasized that something rubbed her the wrong way when she spoke to Terrell, and she cannot let that feeling go. She believes Terrell knows more than he has disclosed.
Erika Kirk's Whereabouts: Still Seeking Verification
Regarding the ongoing question of Erika Kirk's whereabouts on January 8th at Fort Huachuca, Owens provided an update. Erica had submitted another follow-up text, but it unfortunately was not what had been requested. The issue with the first message showing a conversation between Erica and Charlie about dinner on the evening of the 8th was that the contact name was blocked out.
Owens received that message on December 28th and immediately asked for the contact information to be unblocked. She followed up four to five times before returning to podcast production, simply asking to see the contact number shown. After yesterday's episode, she received a follow-up, but it was just Charlie Kirk's contact card from Erica's phone, not the unblocked message thread that was requested.
Owens noted she is working through a third party and that Erica has been tied up with something personal, plus there were six sick kids throughout the holiday, causing delays. There has been no response at all from Brian Harpole, who was the primary person Mitch contacted Owens about regarding the Fort Huachuca meeting. There has also been no response from Dan Flood, who was not seen at Fort Huachuca but has communication with Brian Harpole.
The Stories Candace Owens Has Broken
In response to critics who claim she presents no evidence and is just "going on vibes and a dream," Owens compiled a list of stories her show has broken on the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation:
- Charlie's text messages showing he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause 48 hours before assassination, despite widespread lies about this fact
- Photo of Tyler Robinson at Dairy Queen on the day of the assassination
- Tyler Robinson's visit to Cowboys Smokehouse that evening (today's revelation)
- Tyler Robinson likely avoided traffic lights
- Tyler Robinson called out of work on January 10th (citing helping grandmother move furniture) and January 11th (citing food poisoning)
- Charlie's Catholic considerations, attendance at mass, praying the rosary, dying wearing a St. Michael pendant, and having a private Catholic funeral mass
- Terryl Farnsworth's strange behavior moments after the assassination
- No blood on the back of Charlie as he went down, proving the bullet did not pass through
- Photos from inside Charlie's SUV after assassination
- The FBI did not impound that vehicle
- The FBI seized cameras inside the hospital
- The FBI blocked Dr. Troder from returning to his operating room, and a phone call was placed to DC (still investigating who received it) which then allowed Dr. Troder to return
- Andrew Kolvet lied about the "Superman neck" quotation, which never came from Dr. Lee Troder but allegedly came from Erica in a moment of upset
- Charlie texted Dan Flood and Andrew Kolvet the night before saying he was afraid "they" were going to kill him (confirmed by Erica to Owens)
- Netanyahu called Charlie to make an offer to take Turning Point to the next level (disputed by Erica, but confirmed by Owens through a separate source from Andrew Kolvet)
- Fort Huachuca military police report backed up with evidence that Mitch was telling the truth about September 9th
- Egyptian planes tracking Turning Point Faith
- Bomb dogs failing to detect the recently discharged weapon on September 10th, with feds then directing rookie police officers to find it
- Massive check coming to Turning Point USA from Pierre (possibly Pierre Falconee)
Owens emphasized that when it comes to receipts and evidence, her show has been presenting substantial material while receiving no credit. She clarified that she doesn't want credit but rather wants the case solved. She does not believe Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk.
The DailyWire+'s New Show: Stalker Ex-Boyfriend Energy
Owens addressed the DailyWire+'s announcement of a new show called "In the No No" hosted by Maddie, which appears designed specifically to mock Owens and Tucker Carlson. The show's title is a play on Owens' podcast name, and promotional material shows the host taking Owens' clips out of context to make them seem weird, including dramatizing a segment where Owens discussed the history of Utah's state flag and its beehive symbol.
Owens described the DailyWire+'s continued focus on her as exhibiting "stalker vibes" and "psycho ex-boyfriend" energy. She noted this is not normal employer behavior and that nothing that has happened since she left the company has been normal, from the public "town hall" explaining her departure to the ongoing attempts to interfere with her career and relationships.
She emphasized this has nothing to do with the new host Maddie, who is just the latest person recruited for the role. Owens said she hopes it works out for Maddie but that the issue is an employer that can't move on. The DailyWire+ has been in a casting rut trying to find a replacement for Brett Cooper for over a year, and rather than focusing on original compelling content, they've created a show based entirely on someone they fired.
Owens listed the pattern: sending interns to stalk her at events, trying to get her canceled from speaking engagements, attempting to buy her friends, and now creating an entire show centered on mocking her. She directly addressed Ben Shapiro, asking him to move on for his own mental health and stating that employers should not be allowed to engage in this behavior. She described feeling increasingly uncomfortable with what she perceives as a dangerous level of obsession.
Brigitte Macron's Harassment Lawsuit: Prison for Retweets
Owens drew attention to a chilling case in France where Brigitte Macron has successfully prosecuted people for what she deems harassment. Eight men and two women between ages 41 and 65 who retweeted content about Brigitte Macron's gender have been sentenced. Eight received suspended sentences between four to eight months, while a ninth was sentenced to six months in jail for not attending the hearing.
Three individuals described as "instigators" were ordered to have their social media accounts suspended for six months. All defendants were ordered to attend an online course on hate speech and collectively pay Brigitte Macron approximately $12,000 in "moral damages."
The critical issue, Owens emphasized, is that Brigitte Macron is not arguing these statements are untrue. She is arguing that her feelings are hurt because people know she was born with a penis. The court accepted the argument that the tweets were malicious, degrading, insulting, and intentionally harmful to Brigitte, regardless of their truth value.
Owens connected this directly to the lawsuit against her in Delaware, arguing that evil people getting caught doing evil things still have enough power to pass legislation and establish new laws to prevent exposure. The goal is to make people fearful of telling the truth about things that have actually happened. She urged everyone to pay attention to every filing in her Delaware lawsuit, suggesting federal collusion to introduce new speech laws in America.
Call for Information and Ongoing Investigation
Owens put out a call for anyone who operates a business around Cowboys Smokehouse in Panguitch, Utah to check their footage. There may be video evidence that business owners aren't even aware could be relevant. She invited anyone with information to email moretips@candace.com.
She also requested that if anyone has information about the Fort Huachuca meeting, the Farnsworth family connections, or any other aspect of the investigation, they should come forward. The investigation remains open and active, with new leads being pursued despite federal investigators apparently having closed the case.
Owens reiterated that this is not a normal investigation where authorities are actively gathering evidence to build their case. Instead, it appears to be a case where the conclusion was determined from the beginning, and any evidence contradicting that conclusion is simply ignored. The fact that FBI investigators never visited Cowboys Smokehouse despite being provided with concrete evidence of Robinson's presence there exemplifies this approach.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. And we will start with a question of the day. Now, imagine if you would that you were writing a Netflix series about a 19-year-old kid who had never been in trouble ever, actually. Uh he'd never been arrested, had never committed any crimes. He has a perfect ACT score, so he's also pretty brilliant. But for whatever reason, you decide that this protagonist is going to become a murderer. He's going to one day out of support for his trans furry lover. Maybe he's the furry and the other guy. I don't really know. The point is is he's going to assassinate a political figure in broad daylight who it should be mentioned that particular political figure isn't exactly known for raging against the LGBTQ community. But anyway, that's what this person decides to do, assassinate him. So, one afternoon he he scales a rooftop at a university that he never attended and he accomplishes what he set out to do. He murders Charlie Kirk. What would you expect that young man to do next? If you're just trying to to sell this as a what you would expect someone to do next logically. Well, today we are going to tell you where exactly Tyler Robinson went after he went to Dairy Queen. And it's interesting and of course it just pokes more holes in the Fed sloppy story. So welcome back to Candace All right, you guys. Before we get into this craziness, I want to tell you that this episode is being brought to you by Nimi Skincare. I am very intentional with the brands that I work with. And Nimi is one that I actually use every day because it's clean, simple skincare made right here in America with no ideological baggage, no nonsense, just products that work and align with my values. So, you can visit nimiskare.com today. Okay, let's jump into this. It was allegedly Tyler Robinson. He was allegedly acting alone on a rooftop and it is allegedly supposed to have been the first time that he ever killed a human being. So we I think most people um who are thinking through this, we naturally would expect a little bit of adrenaline, right? Maybe even the thought of what he had just done for the very first time might have made him physically ill. Like we would expect him to maybe lose his lunch, not exactly pop over to a nearby Dairy Queen to have lunch, calmly, have lunch, and just begin texting his lover. Which is why I was very surprised to learn of what Tyler Robinson did thereafter. Ready? Tyler Robinson, we can exclusively confirm to you all, drove 3 hours away um from Oram, Utah down to Pangitch, Utah. I hope I'm saying that right. A lot of the cities sound weird. I think it's Pangitch, Utah. I'm showing you a map of that distance. It is just under uh 3 hours to get there. And what was he doing there? You're probably wondering, did he meet up with somebody? No, he was alone. And what we can tell you that he did when he got there was that he pulled into the Cowboys Smokehouse on North Main Street. He grabbed himself a seat at the bar at this steakhouse and he ordered himself some more food. Specifically, Tyler Robinson ordered a steak medium rare with mashed potatoes and vegetables. There were three servers that were working that night. And then after um news exploded the following day and people began obsessively sharing of course the photo of the suspect Tyler Robinson having been captured after 33 hours. Well, one of the servers recognized him as the person that was sitting at the bar the night before. So they decided to huddle up with management and said, "No, that that person, Tyler Robinson, he was here. He was eating his steak. He was eating mashed potatoes." Management said, "Are you sure? Are you positive that Tyler Robinson? Yes, I'm absolutely sure. Well, they don't have any cameras at this restaurant. So, what they decided to do was to verify that he was in the building, not by, of course, consulting outdoor video footage, which they didn't have access to, um, but rather just looking through credit card charges because D Tyler Robinson, despite telling um his roommate how he wanted to get away with this, remember the messages? And like, oh, here's what happened. I don't want anybody to know. will make sure you delete this letter that's under the keyboard, but take a picture of it before you delete it, but read it and then destroy it. He's trying to get away with this this crime. Well, he used his credit card. That's how they found it. And so what they did was the right thing. They contacted the feds. Now, that's interesting because I would imagine that after 33 hour 3 to three hours when they sort of gloriously come out and yeehaw, we got them. I would have and call me crazy. I don't know how this stuff works. I'm not an expert, right? We're not experts, but I would imagine the first thing that they would do is that they would probably just try to figure out where he'd been and maybe one way they would do that would be going through his credit card charges. I would imagine the fed federal government had that capability. They didn't do that. Instead, they were contacted days later um by this restaurant. The the server filed a report responsibly and said, "Yeah, he was here. We have the literal receipt." the literal receipt and they explained uh that Tyler Robinson was not very talkative. He seemed absolutely fine and normal and was texting on his phone. Maybe that's when he was sending more messages to his lover as he was eating a steak. He was sure hungry is what I would say, but calm nonetheless. Didn't have the jitters. He wasn't scared. He was just hungry. Now, what's fascinating to me is what happens after because again, I'm expecting that the feds would go, "Well, let us get down there. Let us get down to Panguage. Let us start interviewing everybody. Uh, let's start checking all these cameras around here to see if we've got them." No. No. That's all they did. They um sort of were obliged to call them back and just say, "Okay, what happened?" And then that's it. The TRO's cold. Now, remember I told you guys that I spoke with the lawyer. Um, this would obviously be Erica's lawyer because she's listed as the victim. And they asserted that at this part in the process, what happens next is that the investigators separate from Erica uh are supposed to be well investigating. They're supposed to be going around trying to gather more information to prove their case that this is definitely the shooter and he acted alone. I would expect that they would have gone down to this restaurant. I can tell you guys today they have not. Nobody is interested in going down to this restaurant and speaking with these employees and speaking with people nearby and seeing what they saw and learning about Tyler Robinson's demeanor because it's not that kind of an investigation, guys. This is case closed. Giddy up. That's what he was. He was just He went down and he had himself a steak after he had um some Dairy Queen. Now 3 hours is a long ride. I get it. He's probably hungry and I get that he used his credit card because I don't know. I guess he's Gen Z. He's never heard of like DVDs and stuff. They've always had the technological capabilities. He doesn't even know what cash is. He didn't even think about just going to an ATM and getting cash out to pull off this crime. He thought it through everything else. how to scale the rooftops, how to make this happen, where exactly Charlie was going to sit, but everything else kind of falls apart afterwards. All he could think about was getting food, and he decided the best way to try to get away with murder was to use his credit card. Now, parking aside the fact that he's a 4.0 student with a perfect ACT score, uh, he couldn't, that thought just never crossed his mind. It's just get take cash out. So, here is what our now updated timeline looks like from that day. It's been a while since we have revisited that and I think that we also need to revisit which we are um the Dairy Queen stop because it had to have occurred earlier than we had initially documented. It definitely happened but I think the time frame of the stop is wrong because if we need 3 hours to get from Oram down to Panguitch and I have confirmed that that happened again there was a literal receipt and the FBI knows about it um and has that in their possession. Uh then it's got to be earlier, right? It's got to be slightly earlier that he went to Dairy Queen, which would track for me because if we know that he was throwing clothes out in the Dairy Queen, that's probably going to be a little bit closer to the shooting and he's not going to hang around. So, here's what we have. We have that press conference that happens at 5:30. At 559, Cash Patel tweets that the subject erroneously tweets the subject in custody has been uh released because sorry, they had erroneously tweeted that they had him before that. And he says, "Our investigation continues. After 6:00 p.m. is when we are gauging the first correspondence to have taken place between Tyler and Lance based on the conversation that they were having. 638 is when we initially had uh when that photo was taken. That photo was captured at the Dairy Queen and I will update that for you guys. I am going back and trying to be more precise. Wondering if that needs to be adjusted by an hour. Maybe it was actually 5:38 p.m. and time zones were wrong. I'll follow up with you guys there. Um and now we can add that 8:45 p.m. That's the time approximately that Tyler turned up in Panguitch, Utah. Again, that is 3 hours away from Orum. He has a meal at the bar counter and then he leaves around 9:30 p.m. Remind you guys that he is fine. He's in a totally fine mood and he appears to be he is texting while he is eating, not speaking much to the servers. So when I spoke to the people who had reported this, they suspect and I think this is a a good suspicion, a good instinct to follow uh that he may have gone to his grandma's house afterwards because apparently that's where his grandmother is from and she lives nearby. And if you guys recall, Tyler Robinson's grandmother was one of the first people to speak out and she said, "You have the wrong person." She said, "My grandson does not fire guns. My grandson did not commit this murder." And so, since I am learning that she is from around here and that she uh is a local and everyone's familiar with her, they know who she is, I would imagine that it's possible that Tyler Robinson could have gone to his grandmother's house for the night. Again, we don't know that as a fact. I am putting it out there because this is an investigation. And by the way, if you are uh somebody who is around the or or rather operates a business around the cowboy smokehouse, you may have footage that you're not even aware of. If you have information, maybe the feds called around, I don't know. Please, we are inviting you to send us an email to more tips@candice.com, but we can now officially plot that in our timeline. And it just makes the Fed's story more just unbelievable. Just unbelievable is what I would say. Nothing they are saying makes any sense. We can also add this to the list of things that stories that we have broken because one of my favorite things ever is how no matter how many stories we break, no matter how how much information we provide, the haters will forever say she has presented no evidence. They're just going on vibes in a dream on the Candace show. That's it. She had a dream and now she's just blindly pointing the finger at everybody. And so I actually decided while we were on break that I had time to put together a list. And this is by no means definitive. This is just a list of stories that we have broken on this show. So here we go. Charlie's text messages. That was a pretty big one showing that he was in fact aband abandoning the pro-Israel cause 48 hours before he was assassinated despite the fact that everyone lied about that fact. Uh, we presented the photo of Tyler Robinson at the Dairy Queen on the day of the assassination. Tyler Robinson, we are telling you today, then went to the cowboy smokehouse that evening and likely, I should put likely there, avoided traffic lights. We can also tell you that Tyler Robinson called out of work on the 11th. That's another story I'm breaking here. He was citing food poisoning. He called out of work very early in the morning on the 11th. and he also called out of work on the 10th saying that he had to help his grandmother move furniture. That is an interesting data point that I would like to present to you. Again, he is using his grandmother as an excuse. I think that if I was the federal government and I had unlimited resources, if I was the state government and I had unlimited resources in the form of people's tax dollars, I would probably be wondering if he went to his grandmother's house that night. Just saying. Tyler was working at Wild Electric, by the way, in Santa Clara, Utah. Uh, I did not break that story. That was already in the news, but you may have missed that. And uh yeah, that was his excuse. He had to help his grandmother. I also broke the story about Charlie's Catholic considerations. I didn't even mean to break that one, but then I had to present the receipts because people were acting crazy about him attending mass, praying the rosary, that he died wearing a St. Michael pendant, that he had a private Catholic funeral mass. I also broke the story regarding Terara Farnsworth's strange behavior moments after the assassination. I broke probably the biggest story um of all actually. It is the only reason that we are still discussing this. It's the only reason that we realize the single reason the first reason rather primary reason that we recognized the feds were lying to us was because I broke the story that there was no blood on the back of Charlie as he went down. that the bullet did not pass through. I also presented to you guys the photos from inside Charlie's SUV after assassination. I broke the story that the feds did not impound that vehicle. Broke a story that the feds seized the cameras inside the hospital, that the feds blocked Dr. Troder from returning to his operating room, and that a phone call was then placed to DC. We are still trying to figure out to whom who received that phone call, which allowed Dr. Trotder to go back into his operating room. We broke the story that Andrew Kovette lied about the Superman neck. That quotation never came from Dr. Lee Troder at all. It allegedly came from Erica in a moment of upset. We broke the story that Charlie texted Dan Flood and Andrew Kovette the night before saying that he was afraid that they were going to kill him. This has now been confirmed by Erikaru. At least it was confirmed to me from Erica. We broke the story that Netanyahu called Charlie to make an offer to take Turning Point to the next level. That story is being disputed by Erica. That's a turning point on turning point fight. Okay. Um I don't know who to believe, but I I will say that I confirmed that separately from Andrew Kovette with someone that did not have communication with Andrew Kovette. So I tend to believe that that offer did indeed come through. We broke the story about Fort Wuka and we're not done with that. We presented the military police report, backed that up with evidence uh that Mitch was telling the truth about what happened on September 9th. We broke the story about the Egyptian trains uh Egyptian planes, pardon me, tracking turning point faith. Um that document we still have for you which is coming forward. We will be proven correct on that as well. We broke a story about the bomb dogs failing to detect the recently discharged weapon on September 10th and that it was actually the feds that then directed a rookie police officer, three rookie police officers to find it. We also broke the story of the mass massive check that was coming to Turning Point USA from Pierre. Is it Pierre Dupont? Is it Pierre Falconee? I think it's Pierre Falconee. I really do believe it's Pierre Falconee for a lot of reasons. uh we are still looking for more information. So when it comes to receipts and evidence, we have been presenting a lot of it and we are getting no credit for it. We don't care. We don't want credit. Actually, what I want is for this to be solved. I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk and I don't believe it was Tyler Robinson. And on that note, we should get back to the Fort Wuga story because this has proven to be a very interesting lead and we have a couple of interesting updates to add to that. First and foremost, I should say for good measure that Turning Point USA would like us to clarify that while yes, it is true the tent idea was initially brought up by Elizabeth McCoy, it was ultimately a group decision to move forward with the idea, a group decision between the events team and the exhibitor hall team. Now, um, the idea from them was that at future tour stops, people would use that tent to grieve and to share their thoughts about how Charlie had changed their lives. I think just as a, you know, just a spectator here, there are other ways to grieve and you can still share stories about how Charlie changed your life. You don't need to be under the tent that he was murdered in. That's just my feedback there. Second update, this time regarding Fort Wuka as well. Um, Erica has submitted another follow-up text regarding her whereabouts on the 8th. Now, you will recall, as I told you yesterday, that the issue with the first message that she provided, which was purportedly a conversation between her and Charlie about dinner on the evening of the 8th, was that the contact name was blocked on the message. It was blacked out on the message. Uh I had received that by the way on December 28th. I immediately said, "Hey, could you unblock that uh or uncover that rather and I followed up about four to five times just trying to get that before we came back um onto the podcast. I just said, you know, I just want to see the contact number shown." Well, when I got off air yesterday, I had a follow-up, but it unfortunately was not what we were looking for or what we had asked for. It was just a Charlie Kirk contact card just like this is Charlie Kirk's contact card in my phone. Now I should add here that I am obviously working through a third party and they made it clear that Erica has been tied up with something personal. So that's the reason for the delay. There were six sick kids as well throughout the holiday. So there's just been a delay on getting that. But I wanted to let you guys know where we are at. No response at all from Brian Harpole. I've told you that several times. Or relatedly, Dan Flood. Now, Dan Flood was not seen at Fort Wuka, but he does have communication with Brian Harpole. So, I wanted to exhaust every effort to get to the bottom of where these individuals were, specifically Brian Harpole and Erica Kirk. Now, regarding Mark Amadeday, you will remember uh that I Mitch had described a person who he was sure was a congressman. He felt that there was it was a congressman. And I told you that we looked up a congressman that fit the description of what he was telling us. 5'9, glasses, grayish white hair. And we came up with Mark Amday. And he said that that face looks familiar. Then Mark Ammedday came out and he had dropped a YouTube video of a live stream of him on a committee. And then X came back and said um he actually missed the first two roll calls. This was a 12hour House committee video. We certainly did not have the time to parse through it in our last episode last year. I did of course make that a priority during break. I did go through that 12-hour footage. And I would like to now state unequivocally that I think his story checks out. Now, I realize there's been some confusion because he does in fact miss those first two roll calls, but people then pointed out to me in the comments that he does appear, you can see him on the screen early on. It is blurry, but that early on where he is sitting, it looks like in his chair. When I visually look at it, it looks like Mark Ammedday to me before the roll call. Uh, now it's certainly by no means definitive, but I think it is indeed very likely that the person that we see on camera is Mark Amadeay early on in the hearing. And I am not here to try to make someone fit into the story. I want to actually find the right person and eliminate the wrong people. And to be clear, like I said, Mitch initially contacted me about just Erica Kirk um, and Brian Harpole. Brian Harpole being the big one. this meeting, this hands-on meeting that looked like mission, mission is on the table. Let's go break right before a mission. That's how it was described to me. Now, regarding Mark Amadeay, there is someone else that I believe that we should look into. Okay, follow one lead. If it doesn't lead where we think it's going to go, we can pivot. And something interesting has come up. Now, I will start by restating I have never felt good about Terrell Barnworth. Okay? Not since that very first phone call I had with him. In fact, the phone call I had with him, I can say was the very first moment that I went, "Something is not right here." Told you guys he just started lying to me repeatedly. Weird. His energy was weird. I was like, "What's going on? Why are you being weird? I'm calling you because I'm just trying to let the public know like you know why you took the cameras out. I'm sure there's a logical reason. It is kind of weird that you're there. Why are you there? He's all over the place. And again, this is not in the immediate aftermath. This is not first 48. We've got the jitters. Charlie Kirk's killed. This is like a week past that. And I expressed repeatedly to my audience that something was not right with that phone call. As soon as I hung up, I said to my team, and I'm quoting myself here, that man is guilty of something. He's guilty of something. He's lying about weird stuff. I don't know how to send a file. What do you mean? You run an entire AV company. You know how to send a file over the internet? Well, I'm scared Google might hack me. What? You're scared Google's going to hack you to release more footage of Charlie dying? That makes no sense. Nothing made sense, and I will never pretend it made sense. And I'm following my gut on Terara Farnsworth, okay? And I expressed my gut, not just to you. and uh back at home. But I also expressed that to Erica and Justin Strife when we were sitting in the meeting. I said I I'm not taking my foot off of that pedal. No, I do think that it's worth stating before we get into this that me finding the behavior and the conversation that I had with Terrell to be extremely suspicious is not of course an invitation to harass him or his family. I'm against that and I'm saying that because apparently he is receiving death threats. that was told to me that he's receiving death threats because people want answers. Now, not ever do I ever want that to happen. I don't want people to watch this show and partake in that. Nor nor do I think you guys are partaking in that, but I'm just saying that like on this show, we sentence people to truth to more daylight. And the reality is that I don't trust people who lie repeatedly to me over the phone. I don't. he was acting guilty during a time when I had no indication one way or the other whether or not Turning Point people would be involved in a coverup. And for clarity, I want to show you guys this as well exclusively a still image of the much longer video I have that was shown to me of Charlie from behind. Okay, this is this is the video and and you can see um what we have there. That's that's Charlie's necklace that's hanging. There's no blood on Charlie. There was absolutely no blood on Charlie. Not only did the bullet not go through, it didn't even cause any sort of destruction. And I follow that video until he goes down. There's nothing that we would expect to see from A306. And again, I have a closeup of this. Uh that's his chain. There's no question that what you are seeing there is his chain. And the only blood that I saw was blood in his hand on which was spurting forward. To be clear, this this doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to the narrative. Doesn't make sense to anybody that knows anything about guns. Just doesn't. Okay. Charlie was in pretty good shape except for where he had the wound on his neck that we all saw, the graphic video that we all saw that was circulated online. Now, I'm going to add here that another person who I do not trust at all for many reasons because one of them being he's a sexual deviant. Uh he's also been indicted for crimes by the state of Arizona, federal crimes for which he was recently pardoned by President Donald Trump. I think it's fair to assume that a person who commits crimes in the past might commit crimes in the future or I guess allegedly committed crimes. I think those court cases are still moving through. I think that's a perfectly logical assumption uh that a person who's involved in doing the wrong thing might keep it up. A person that seems motivated by money, a person who factually was in debt and uh was having his payments garnished at Turning Point USA who then blinks and becomes a millionaire working for a charity might be a little bit shady. I think Tyler Boyer, it is a logical conclusion that he is at best a very shady character. I'm going to stand by that. 10 toes down. Now, because I was hyperfixed on Tyler Boyer, I decided to ask Erica in person during our sitdown how she met Tyler. It was actually I had three questions when I went in there that I wanted to get the answer to. That was actually my number one question. because I don't know much about the story of how Tyler met Charlie Kirk and I now desperately wish but I remember uh that I had I could remember what Charlie told me about that. How did they get linked up? And I felt that me asking Erica that Erica that question, she might be able to provide a lot of insight to who Tyler Boyer was um during the time he was with Charlie Kirk, why maybe even before he was with Charlie Kirk and why he got involved with Charlie Kirk. And of course, as we know, Erica knew Tyler for years before her and Charlie began dating, right? Both she and Tyler have been honest about that fact, particularly citing Trump's 2015 presidential rally as an event where the two of them attended together, right? Standing behind Donald Trump in Arizona at his 2015 uh July rally, which I should mention also her mother Lorie France is in the background. So the three of them have known each other since at least July 2015 publicly. So I asked Erica how she met him. Her answer was that she met him at the 2015 rally because they were both standing behind Trump. And I immediately corrected her. I said, "That's not possible. It's not possible because Tyler discussed knowing you already at the if we're calling it funeral rally. Do people I don't even know if that's kind of what it was like a funeral political rally. Uh Tyler got on stage and he told the audience that Erica had called him asking how she could get involved and that he then made a decision to put her behind Donald Trump. Here is Tyler making that statement in his own words at Charlie Kirk's memorial. >> At his wedding, I told the story of talking Charlie into moving to Arizona. He was an adamant Chicago by boy. I needed to break that selfishly. I wanted him to love Arizona because we I had recently convinced them to move Turning Point USA to Arizona. It was a hard sell at first and that was until I hosted the first Trump rally in in in Trump rally history right here in Arizona in 2015. [applause] I got a call. I got a call from Miss Erica Kirk. Miss Arizona 2012. I just want to help, she said. So naturally, I put her right behind the president at that first rally. >> Okay. So she called, she said, "I wanted to help." And he put her behind the president. So I'm sitting with her and she doesn't remember how she met him, but she said that she would look back through old messages because like me, she never deletes any of her messages. And she thought maybe specifically she said that they had a a connection in politics via a a senator or a congressman. That's what she said. Now, in hindsight after that meeting, because I have continued to prod the narrative on Terrell and Tyler, I believe that's accurate. I thought that's interesting. Who were the congressmen? Who were the congressmen that Tyl Tyler maybe knew? Well, I should tell you guys that Terrell Farnsworth and Tyler Ber go back. They go way back. I'm talking generationally back. Okay? Terrell Farnsworth par Farnsworth's parents went to high school with Tyler Boyer's parents. They're all from Chandler, Arizona. And then Tyler Ber and Terl Farnsworth went to high school together. They graduated um it looks like two years apart uh from Gilbert High School. So these two are thicker than thieves. They are overtly political obviously. In fact, uh, at that very same Trump rally in 2015, Tyler Ber introduces himself as the youngest chairman of the Republican party. He's very involved in Arizona politics. And like he said, he's telling the truth. He was the reason that Charlie moved to decided to put Turning Point USA's campus in Arizona. Charlie's from Charlie's from Chicago, right? He that's where they first started Turning Point USA in Chicago. Tyler has been driving this bus and like I said hiring the people around Charlie Kirk except for me that really just I was the anomaly. We really just met and I wonder if it would have happened if uh you know Tyler was there. Anyways, point here is that Tyler Ber was very well acquainted obviously with Terrell on a familial basis and he was very close with Terrell's family, particularly Terrell's uncles and cousins. Terrell's father is a man named Dwayne Farnsworth and his first cousins are longtime Arizona Congressman Eddie Farnsworth. I believe he left office in 2022. And also his brother, Eddie's brother, is David Farnsworth. So, just to reiterate that, you have David, Senator David Farnsworth. He's still in office. You have Eddie Farnsworth who was the chairman of the uh state house judiciary. And those two men are brothers and first cousins with Dwayne Farnsworth, who is Terrell's father. and they are extremely close to Tyler. In fact, Eddie has actually been sued in the past with Tyler. Like they're on the same side. They are being sued together. You can go back and you can mine all of this. He has known that family for a very long time. Anyway, in 2014, Senator David Farnsworth introduced Erica's mother to the House floor with concerns over EMPs. Okay. At the time, David Farnsworth was actually sponsoring the bill, uh, a bill which would involve introducing Lori, who was then the CEO of GTech Industries. And Eddie Farnsworth is also listed as having voted on this particular bill. They got it passed through. So, the three of these people knew each other. You know, Eddie, Lori, um, and Dave. And you can see here at the top when you look at the members present, it says E. Barnsworth, Mister. That is Eddie Farnsworth. And then if you scroll down, if you see here, it's telling you who's sponsoring this bill. That is David Farnsworth. And it says that he became concerned about a potential for an EMP event a short time ago. And he got support from Congressman Trent Franks. And it then tells us that he introduced Larry Ginta, Chuck Lee, and Lorie France, the CEO of GTech Industries. Larry Ginta, by the way, or Gwenta, I don't know if I'm saying that right, is Erica's stepfather. They've known each other. The Finesworths, the Boyers, and the France fees have known each other um at least since 2014 on paper. We could keep looking and go backwards, but it is very likely obviously given how close Tyler Boyer is to these men that they all knew each other going back to 2014. I think likely earlier if I am being honest. Um I have an indication that it was actually earlier, but this is on paper, so let's stick to the facts. Anyways, Eddie Farnsworth is an interesting character uh because the year prior in 2013, Eddie Farnsworth was, as I said, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee and he caused a bit of a kurluffle in the state because for some unknown reason, he blocked a hearing on a bill to prevent child sex trafficking. And he was the wrong person to do this because he had been in the news years earlier because his nephew, Albert Farnsworth, um had raped a 13-year-old. Okay. Now, on this topic of this child sex trafficking bill, which got he didn't bring it down to uh the floor for a vote and it had support from Democrats and Republicans because it is a problem in this state. Child sex trafficking is a problem in the state of Arizona because the border is there and uh they were trying to do something about it to make it so that it was less easy for people to traffic children. I think specifically ages 15 and 16. And I want to say that never in my life, in my political life, have I worked on a single story where a theme of child sex trafficking has emerged more. I've never seen it in my life. Okay? Whether it's the people who own the planes, remember the 888 plane, they run uh an anti-child sex trafficking charity. Also, in their profile pictures, they're wearing a t-shirt from another child sex trafficking charity, Operation Underground. And you will recall that following the assassination, Phil Lyman was speaking to the guy that used to run, I'm blanking on his name, Tim Ballard, that's his name, Tim Ballard. He used to run Operation Underground because he had gotten u donation and support from Glenn Beck for Operation Underground. He was involved in that. I remember because I interviewed Tim Ballard about Operation Underground. Fort Wuka base, which has randomly come up because of Mitch in general. Uh they also are caught up in a child porn ring. That's a real story that has been an issue at Wuka base. And I'm showing you this article from CBS News. US Army missed the red flags about a civilian leader who led a child porn ring and risked US security. That person's name was David Rodsham. He was a top civilian commander um at a US air base in Afghanistan. Um, and you can go go on and you can see that it says that after he left his post, he returned to Fort Wuka, which is a major army installation in Arizona, blah blah blah. There is also Fort Wuka base which gets involved in a scandal relating to child sex trafficking uh where turning point USA has their base where they actually decided to put the campus if you will Turning Point USA just outside uh literally across the way there's a place known as Arizona Mills which is like the number one place for child sex trafficking just like across the street. I want to be very clear here. I'm saying that I am making no connection there. I am not suggesting that Turning Point USA is trafficking children. Just want to be very clear. I'm just saying that everywhere I look in this story, themes of child sex trafficking come up. Okay. Anyway, I am wondering regarding Eddie Farnsworth if it is possible that Mitch saw him because he's a dead ringer. A dead ringer for Mark Amday. When I saw this, I was like, whoa, doppelganger. This man looks like Mark Amday. He just and I and I sent it to Mitch and he said, "Yes, this man looks very familiar. Again, these are not the people that he contacted me about, but I would like to find out if this could be a connection. I'd like to see if it's possible because the Farnsworth family has deep military ties as well. Legitimately do not know. I am not making an accusation here. I personally think he looks a lot like Mark Amadeday." And as a final point, interestingly enough, connecting a final dot here, Arizona politicians happened to travel down to the Davis Month base for their annual commanders summit where Arizona community leaders meet with military men. This is very close. This is about Mark, what is this? 40 minutes away from Fort Wuka. >> Uh, it's a little over an hour north in Tucson. >> Okay. In Tucson. They happened to travel here for their annual commander summit on September 9th. That happened. You can see this pulling this up on the Davis Mountain Air Force Base website. It says that they kicked off their Arizona Commanders Summit on September 9th, which provides an opportunity for military commanders and Arizona community leaders to discuss topics impacting military installations. Again, that could obviously just be a coincidence, but it's interesting. it would give them an excuse to be in that region. And so I'd like to know more because the Farnsworth family is coming up too much. Terara Farnsworth's wife, by the way, people on the internet discovered this. Um, and I'm going to get the name. I don't want to get this name right. I'm going to get this name right. I mean, I don't want to get it wrong. His father-in-law is Thomas Bert, who ran Duncan Aviation. The FBO, I told you, that rented the cars for the feds. He actually ran Duncan Aviation as the executive vice president and COO for 22 years now. He did retire. He retired in in 2019. 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Take back control in 30 seconds. Get your free personalized assessment and the best option for you by visiting pdsdebt.com/candis. Again, that's pdsd.comand pds.com/candis. All right, you guys. So yesterday, we didn't really break the story. We just were kind of responding. I guess we we're very confused. Normally, we do this show at 400 p.m. Eastern, and it looked like a Daily Wire was teasing something on my channels, which they brought back, and then they released stuff on my old Instagram channels. And I guess it was supposed to be like a clever way of of I don't know. I don't I actually don't know at all what they were thinking, but it got them some attention. And then we were able to very quickly determine because the tips box is just absolutely savage that what's been in the works is that Daily Wire um has been casting people for a show that's designed specifically to make fun of me and also Tucker Carlson. Okay. Now, in general, I would say the Daily Wire has been in a casting rut trying to find the new Brett Cooper uh probably for well over a year now. It's not easy to find raw talent like that. And I think really at long last they found someone that they think might work. Except rather than being bubbly and kind, the idea is she's going to be a bit manic, over the top, and of course a little bit and mean, right? Because if you're noticing, that's kind of the new Zionist bent sort of this and we've we've shown you clips in the show like you can't sit with us. We're cool. like you you're broke if you don't like what we do and we're hot and you're not like you know the Hampton Summit and they're like talking about how much money they have. Another brilliant PR ploy from a country that's mass murdering innocent children like you can't sit with us. Never occurs with them that we just don't want to sit with them. That's kind of the whole point of what we're doing. Anyway, before Maddie, they apparently tried out other people for this role. They had considered a show uh putting together a show that would make fun of me and Tucker Carlson. They tossed around three other people. They even considered doing a combination show with a person who had played the baiff on Matt Walsh's Judged and that didn't end up that didn't wind up panning out. Now Maddie was then landed upon and they decided because we're really going to stick it to Candace. We're going to have her name the show in the No. No. Haha, get it. Get it. Says we don't know, but we know. Ben's on stage saying that expression is ba did and now we're just gonna bring this show to life and give it sort of a Nickelodeon IIC Carly vibe, but it's the Daily Wire, but they don't have a kids department anymore. But this kind of feels like Nickelodeon, but it's iic Carly meets politics, which is just kind of wrong. And the idea is we're going to take Candace clips out of context to make it seem weird. And I'm going to show you it. I'm gonna show you guys uh so you could see it. Tata's clip up. She is going to really dramatize me discussing the history of Utah's state flag. Now, I don't know if I'm getting old. I am actually. I do know I'm getting old. In my ripe old age, I'm interested in history. I'm interested in learning about flags. And the history of their beehive flag is what I presented on my show. And Maddie in the no is really gonna is really gonna mock me. So let's let's take a look at it. >> That the Utah state flag is a hexagonal beehive. All right, let's try this. Let's really try this. Okay, chronologically, Utah adopts the beehive symbol in 1948. Fast forward 175 years later, people start using B language as codes. >> And I communicate with them by dancing. >> People that use the code, they're clearly communists because communists work together. They follow a hive mine. Yes, queen. Underground communists. Mormons live in Utah. I watched the secret lives of Mormon wives. I know what's going on here. >> They've always been known as the beehive state. And to be clear, it's not because they make honey. It's not because they have a high presence of bees. In fact, in terms of making honey or bee related products, they rank number 24. It's actually the beehive state. It's relates to the uh Mormon church, the Church of Latter-day Saints. Early Mormon pioneers founded that state and they liked the idea of a beehive working toward a common good. Now, if that sounds vaguely familiar or communist to you, the idea of worker bees, yes, that's where it's from. Did the Mormons know that the bees were commies in 1948? Did anybody watch that South Park episode? You know what? None of this matters. Let's get to her conclusion. [laughter] It's really good. It's really good. It's really sweet. So funny. It's like very original. Very I would say she's clever as a fox. Plus teach her. why we use that particular simile, but I can tell that facts about animal symbolism and history are obviously not her thing. So, I guess the idea is Candace is discussing the state flag and she's using that as proof that Charlie was murdered or something. And it's it's interesting. It's a vibe. Anyway, wanted to show you that because the Daily Wire continues to exhibit stalker vibes. This is not normal. I am now telling people that Ben Shapiro is my psycho ex-boyfriend because that's what this feels like. None of this is normal. We don't have to pretend this is normal. Nothing that has happened since I have left that company is normal. Not how I left the company. Not the glorious town hall slave hanging. Teach everybody a lesson. Like it's psycho ex-boyfriend. It's the ex-boyfriend that breaks up with you. Blasts a message to all of your friends. Says, "Come look. Here's why I did it. Here's I hate her." And you're like, "Okay, I guess this is over. That's fine. I'm going to move on to my life." And then you try to move on your life. And like he's sliding into the DMs of everybody saying, "You can't deal with Don't speak to her. She's terrible. I'm going to smear her. I'm going tell you what she is. I hate her." And it's like, "Okay, fine. That's okay. I'm happy to move on in my life." I'm going to sue you. I get everything. The apartment we share, the car you're going to leave, you're have nothing. Okay, that's fine. Take it. I'd like to just move on in my life. I'm going to see you again because I'm upset about something else. Okay, fine. I would really just like to move on and and close this chapter in my life. Then all of a sudden, he's like jumping on to stages and talking trash about me. He sees I moved on. I'm like, okay, I'm just doing my own show here. You don't. No. No. But you know, like, why do you care? Are you good? Are you good? Can you move on? And you're like, you're designing shows after me. This is not normal. This is not how employers are supposed to behave. I'm I'm being so ser There's something about that that that's like and parking aside Maddie. She's just the latest pawn, you know? They just got to find someone who really desperately wants to be famous, stands on a couch, okay, whatever. Think she's going to be the next it girl. That's fine. This has nothing to do with her. Actually, I hope it works out for her. I am speaking about an employer that can't move on. This is not This feels dangerous to me. Like we're getting to a stage of obsession that is dangerous. You have to go create a show that's interesting and compelling that people want to watch that's not based off of somebody that you fired because you didn't want them anymore. That doesn't that doesn't track with the public. So, I just feel like this is getting very creepy and it's making me uncomfortable. And there should in fact be laws to prevent this from happening. There just should be laws that prevent employers from sending interns to stalk you at events from trying to get you canled from speaking events for buying your friends. Like, oh well, I'm that's the next step of the crazy ex-boyfriend. I'm going to reach out to everybody you know and offer them money. Yeah, I'm going to pretend I was Charlie's. What are you doing? Why Why are you doing this? Why are you so inside of my life? Please, just move on. This is not mentally healthy for you, Ben. I want you to be better. I want you to get better. Seriously, move on in your life. It's okay. Let go of people that disagree with you. It's okay. Also, leave Megan Kelly alone cuz I see you're eyeing her too in a weird way. You seem to be gunning for her now. Let it go. This is not healthy. And I'm asking you to leave this alone in 20 2026. Go do a show that's based off of that girl's talent and something that's interesting and don't just use her like a pawn. That's what I would say. Anyways, you guys want to know the No, no, no, no. Head over to the Daily Wire, support Maddie. Show's going to be great. Or you can just watch my show and we can keep talking about state flags actually because then I got more interested in more state flags. Never mind. I'm not going to tell you about the Pelicans and uh Louisiana, but we were looking into that and it is kind of interesting to learn about the Pelican on the flag of Louisiana's state flag. Uh moving on you guys to other psychopathic things that are happening. Uh I did not realize that Breijit Mcronone is having those people who like retweeted things that she deems to be harassing the truth, right? Right. Brashet Mcronone believes the truth about uh his gender is a form of harassment. This is very chilling. They are sentencing these people to jail. I did not realize that. I thought this was like just the fine. I think I read it too quickly. I thought it said, "Oh, it's $10,000 fine." No. Eight men and two women between the ages of 41 and 65. Okay. Who she is accusing have it's harassed me. It's harassed my family. my family's testifying. It doesn't matter whether or not I did these things to Emanuel when he was 14. It doesn't actually matter. What matters is that you're hurting my feelings bringing them up. You could just imagine this argument in court. Like if Jeffrey Dmer was alive and you're like tweeting at Jeffrey Dmer and you're like you're a sick cannibal pedophile and then he's like that actually doesn't matter because you hurt my feelings. That's really mean. I don't want you that's that's harassment. You can't just call me those things. That's the vibe of what's going on in France right now. It doesn't matter if it's true. it matters if it hurt Brigade's feelings. And so what has happened here is that they testified that these tweets were malicious. They were degrading. They were quote insulting. They were intentionally harmful to Breijit. And of the 10 defendants, eight were given suspended sentences between four to eight months. and a ninth was sentenced to six months in jail because that person just didn't even attend the hearing. That's what's happening right now in France. Okay. Three of the individuals were described as the instigators and they were then ordered to have their social media accounts suspended for 6 months. Re retweets. She feels harassed by the truth. You can harass people with the truth now. And to be clear, all of them were ordered to attend an online course regarding hate speech. Hate speech can also be true speech. If they just feel if they hate it, that's it. And they have to collectively pay Rajit Mcronone what's known as moral damages around $12,000. Moral damages. I am telling you that because you need to fully compute what they want to do here. Okay? That's the purpose of this lawsuit against me. Never before seen lawsuit against me is that evil people are getting caught doing evil things and those evil people still have enough power to pass through legislation and to establish new laws to make it so that they never get caught again. Or even when they do get caught, you have to shut up about it. This lawsuit that Breijit has brought against me matters deeply. I am telling you guys, this lawsuit, everyone should be paying attention to every single filing pertaining to this lawsuit in Delaware, a place where I'm pretty sure France has been running the game since the Revolutionary War because I believe that the feds are colluding because they want to introduce new speech laws in this country and make people fearful to tell the truth about the things that they have actually done. wild. I just felt like I needed to fully present to you what was actually happening in France. Prison 65year-old person. Maybe they just retweeted. Who knows? We have to get into the documentation. But this is not defamation. She's not making the argument that these things are untrue. She's making the argument that her feelings are hurt because you know that she was born with a penis. Wild times, guys. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, guys. Jumping in here to tell you about Tax Network USA because I know a lot of people owe back taxes or they have not filed taxes at all in a lot of years. Well, now is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving that it is here to stay by becoming more aggressive than they've ever been. They're sending out more collection notices. They're filing more tax leans and collecting billions more than they had in recent years. The IRS can take your wages, your bank account, social security, retirement, even your home if they want to. 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It's both of my books, Make Them a Sandwich and Blackout, handsigned by me. Who doesn't want the autographed bundle? I want the autographed bundle. Top comment from yesterday's episode is from Lorie Gallo. She writes, "Having that tent at Amfest as a carnival attraction would be like having the limo that John Kennedy was shot in for a photo op. It is totally disgusting. I am in total agreement with you. I cannot believe it was not stopped on any level. Um it is just it's distasteful and we have every right to feel the ick I think that we that most people feel most of the human beings feel not the Sentinels obviously it's wrong. There's a thousand ways that you can honor Charlie. Stop telling us that it has to always be Miss Macka like we have to have the bloody mic and we have It's like we don't actually have to have any of that. You can just speak about him and say what he means to you like I did. I actually just told stories about Charlie Kirk and yeah, that felt pretty honorific. I I didn't I don't need blood. There's something about it that feels like a seance at all times and I don't like it. I don't like it at all and many people at home don't like it either. Okay, let's get into uh the comments that are coming in right now. Uh Jojo writes, "Christ is king. Thank you for that donation." Brendan writes, "Happy Feast of the Epiphany. Uh keep up the great work." That's not today. Wasn't that on last week? That was last week, right? Be the epiphany. I think I'm right. Is this is today a holy day of obligation, Chris. Okay, got me. Brendon, you got me. I didn't know that. Angelina writes, "Oh, we are so back." By the way, the answer was that it's not a holiday of obligation in case you guys couldn't hear them. Business writes, "Candice, I adore you. My children watch you with me as well. My 28-month-old claps when she sees you on TV. Thank you for being our voice. You are often in my prayers. Stay safe. Christ is king. Thank you so much. That's such a sweet comment. Emily Sullivan writes, "Keep digging, Candace. Praying that your platform continues to grow. I feel as though the Lord has laid on my heart to tell you that all that you are uncovering is open is to open eyes and bring people to Christ. Use it for the kingdom." Of course. Absolutely. And I have to say that it's been it's just been so heavy. I feel better this year obviously than I felt last year, but it is just that Tim Dylan dark comedic skit where you just go, what is happening? H has this world always been this way? Okay, it has. And I think a lot of people want answers like what is the next step? And I don't know. I don't have an answer other than committing ourselves to truth unapologetically. We have to grow louder. They want us to become more silent. We have to expose them. That's what Breijit is doing. It's like we'll bankrupt you. we'll kill you. We'll we'll do whatever it is to shut you up. And they want us to be fearful. And I think that we just have to continue to say, you know what, the truth matters and the truth is enough. And that's why I always say, if you're wondering what you can do, I do believe that the frequency of truth hits harder. And repeating the truth and saying the truth and not being fearful is a part of it. It's a part of of um of how we've been thus far able to expose so much. I think that that's that's accurate. Drew Cass writes or Drew Casease writes, "You mentioned having Baron on your pro podcast. When is that going to happen? Both of your thoughts together will break the internet. You both are so close. God bless and stay focused." Yeah, I reached out to him and we are going to make that happen. When? I don't know. It will likely be on a Friday. Speaking of which, by the way, Friday we are going to do because I was like, why do a book club on Tuesday and then Friday? Let's just do an extra long one on Friday. Uh since we won't have an episode. So instead, we will be doing our book club on Friday for 2 hours as we finish the book Sigman Freud and the Jewish mystical tradition. So you can at any time sign up for the book club. Candace Owens.com. Drew, I hope I answered your question. Did I actually answer your question? Yes. Baron Baron Coleman. So we are uh in conversation and hopefully that will happen on a different Friday. Humble Beginnings writes, "I know that they have terrorized you, but I wouldn't let Ben Shapiro rent space in your head. just keep moving forward. We are building, right? It's not about whether or not this isn't about winning or losing. It just needs to stop. Like I can't explain to you. It's it's getting there's something about it to me that just is starting to feel dangerous. It's like there's an obsession here. There's an obsession with me that is happening and I would like it to stop. That's it. It's not about whether I I've moved on. I've said, "Okay, okay, you can't hang out with me. Okay, you can't go speak here. Okay, you can't whatever I'm going to do." Okay, cool. Thumbs up. I'm gonna have this. Okay, cool. I would just like to move on in my life. I would like you to just leave me alone. There's something about it that feels parasitic. And I'm I'm asking for it to stop. I am. And um I hope that that is enough. I hope that me saying that we it's been it's two years, okay? You just you have to get over a past relationship sooner than two years for your own mental health beyond anything else. I just want it to stop. And maybe it won't, but I I do think that um employers doing this should not be acceptable. Like under the law, it should not be acceptable. You should just be allowed to be fired is what I would say. Jamie Paul Luchi writes, "And I also want to add just before I answer this last thing, I also want to add that you don't even know like 3% of what I have gone through with them because I have tried to be above board. I have tried to handle it in the best way possible. And like I said, my perspective on it was always we are Christians and so we need to not be reciprocal. We can't be mean-spirited. I mean, you see, we have limited our discussions of the Daily Wire at all on this show. And I'm I'm doing series on Camala and Breijit Mcronone and things I'm interested in like things that actually interest me, focusing on what I want to build. And that is not happening there. I don't I don't know why that can't also happen there. If you think my ideas suck, you know, go invest in your ideas. Why is your idea me? Why is your idea like destroying me? I just don't get it. I really don't understand it and I would I would like for it to stop. We'll see what happens. Jamie Powell Luchcci writes, "Looking into Erica's mom's company, AZ Tech and E3 Tech, having contracts with the DoD for EMP hardening and the testing that is done at Fort Wuka." Yeah, I think that that's accurate. And by the way, like I said, I don't think Erica ever denied that. She's like on camera saying that she moved to Arizona because her mother got defense contracts. Like she was her mother was working with the DoD. So she's been very open about that. And what's would be interesting to know is if the Farnsworths secured those contracts for her originally when they first moved like back in the early 2000s. And I'm sure that will come up at some point. Freethinker writes, "Maddie in the noon no is a big no no from me, fam. Seriously though, what even was that? How embarrassing. I have secondhand embarrassment so bad. God bless and protect you forever, Candace. And the last thing that I just want to say as a mother is get your feet off of the couch, Maddie. Like, I am so sick of people thinking they just jump up on a couch and put your feet up there. That's what upset me the most about that. Like, do not stand on a couch. No, you're not allowed to do that. Mm- My grandma, my granddad would say that's a no no. So, Maddie, that's where we're going to leave you on the in the no is that standing on furniture is a no no. Don't do that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.