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Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk and Benny Johnson Expose Socialist Reality in Cuba and AOC's Fraudulent Background
Charlie Kirk sits down with Benny Johnson to revisit his eye-opening documentary footage from Cuba, where government-run grocery stores reveal the dark reality of socialism. Johnson describes Havana as a "post-apocalyptic" world with crumbling infrastructure and desperate citizens rushing into stores for basic necessities. The conversation then shifts to Johnson's investigation into AOC's background, exposing that the self-proclaimed "girl from the Bronx" actually grew up in the affluent suburb of Yorktown Heights. With parallels drawn between Cuba's decline and New York's direction under leaders like Mandani, Kirk and Johnson discuss what happens when socialist policies take root in American cities.
The Reality of Government-Run Grocery Stores in Cuba
Charlie Kirk welcomed Benny Johnson, host of the Benny Show, to discuss several important investigations, starting with Johnson's documentary work in Cuba. The conversation began with footage showing Cuban citizens rushing into a government-run grocery store, a scene that reveals the stark reality of socialist economic systems.
Johnson described the scene: "All of a sudden, the guards come to the gate and they open the gate. And that's when I've never seen this before, but everyone swarmed. People started running. Even people that weren't in line that were just like in the area just start sprinting in there because this is their only chance to get their essentials and the necessities to feed their families."
When asked what he learned about government-run grocery stores, Johnson painted a grim picture: "I understand why people would flee Cuba and risk being interned in alligator Alcatraz because it is truly hell on earth. It's like a bizarro world video game. It's like when you see a post-apocalyptic scene inside of a Hollywood movie where there was once a thriving society. There was once a functional people, a functional architecture of the city, but it's all been rotted and it's all been crumbled down to its lowest common criminal denominator."
The Decay of Socialist Infrastructure
Johnson described the physical deterioration of Havana in detail: "It's very sad to go through Havana. It's very sad to see these old beautiful Spanish castles that have just decayed and are now truly just crumbling directly into the street. And the people there in the nation of Cuba are also eternally depressed."
Inside the grocery stores, Johnson found uniformity and scarcity: "Inside of that grocery store, every single item there was just government-owned stamps on everything. So, like a can of beans, a piece of frozen chicken. There was mainly empty shelves, but everything just comes from the same process."
The documentary footage showed Johnson walking through a Cuban grocery store, highlighting the absurdity: "I really hope that you like konita mango marmalade because we have a whole aisle. Here in Cuba, you can get an individually wrapped hamburger. And that's as fresh as the meat actually gets. But my god, can you get a lot of the exact same brand of garbanzo beans here. And then after you're done buying all these incredible products, you can stand in line for literally an hour, which is as long as we've been standing in line."
Johnson summarized the shopping experience: "There was literally no fresh fruit, no fresh meat, no fresh vegetables, nothing. There was one brand of the things they did have, and the things they didn't have, well, screw you."
Filming Under Communist Surveillance
Getting the footage wasn't easy. Johnson explained the challenges: "They confiscated our drones when we got into Cuba. We had to sit there for 6 hours while they went through all of our bags. And then they eventually raided the Airbnb that we were staying at. Federal agents from the communist regime raided the Airbnb and tried to take our SD cards, tried to take the footage that we were filming there. So, we had to actually flee the country."
Johnson credited the Trump administration for his safe return: "Thank God that President Trump was president. If Joe Biden were president, I assume that we would be potentially incarcerated to this day."
The footage shown was five years old, and Johnson noted conditions have only worsened: "I want to go back to Cuba. I want to head back there and show because it's just gotten worse. It hasn't gotten any better."
Drawing Parallels to American Cities
Kirk mentioned that the mayor of Miami, himself a son of Cuban dissidents who fled Castro's regime, drew direct comparisons between Cuban socialism and current American political figures: "He said this is American Castro. Mandani is American Castro and he will do to New York what he's done to Havana."
Johnson emphasized the warning this documentary provides: "The effects of socialism are everywhere. Crumbling infrastructure and disgusting living conditions. That is what socialism has brought to Cuba. Maybe the socialists in America should take a short trip, a short 90-mile trip, and come here and say they want this in America."
In the documentary, Johnson interviewed Cubans about socialism. When asked if socialism was good for Cuban people, they responded emphatically: "Not good. No, my friend. No."
Exposing AOC's Fraudulent Background
The conversation shifted to Johnson's investigation into AOC's background. Johnson revealed: "She's a total fraud. Ever since she was an infant, before she could walk or talk, AOC has been raised in a leafy, clean, and beautiful suburb that is pristine and low on crime. That is one of those places that gets painted in American history by people like Norman Rockwell. It's a place called Yorktown Heights, the hamlet of Yorktown Heights. It's 120 minutes from downtown Manhattan."
This contradicts AOC's carefully crafted image as a working-class girl from the Bronx. Johnson explained the extent of her time there: "It's not that she was just like lived there for a little bit. She went to preschool there, then she went to elementary school, middle school, high school there, and then she graduated and went to Boston University. So, she's a total and complete fraud."
Johnson's investigation even found political opposition in her hometown: "There's a lot of people in MAGA hats and there's actually a Trump sign right across from AOC's home that she was raised in."
The video investigation, which has been viewed by over 40 million people, showed the stark contrast between AOC's persona and reality. Johnson noted: "This is working class stolen valor. It's exactly what Kamala Harris tried to do when she said that she worked at McDonald's."
What Classmates Revealed About AOC
Johnson shared what he learned from people who attended school with AOC: "We learned that she was a big bully and that she was unhappy and that she was one of the people in high school that you just didn't want to be around. And so maybe she just took all that angst and that lack of fulfillment and that self-deprecation into politics, that self-loathing that you kind of see on the left so often and she just channeled it into communism like they always do."
Johnson questioned why Democrats can't embrace American prosperity: "I don't understand why Democrats can't just accept that America is a beautiful and wonderful country and to be from a place like Yorktown Heights is a major privilege and you should be thankful for it and not vengefully hate your country."
The Mandani Threat to New York
Kirk asked Johnson about the driving force behind Mandani and how to defeat him. Johnson revealed recent conversations with President Trump: "Well, Trump told me yesterday he's just going to put him in jail. So, there's that. But that's because Mandani is proposing multiple policies that are patently illegal."
Johnson detailed the illegal policies: "Mandani wants to tax people based on their skin color. He says so and he doubled down on that this weekend saying that white people in New York need to pay more taxes. That's something that obviously drew a rebuke from the Trump Justice Department."
Johnson explained the federal response: "President Trump told me yesterday when I asked him about Mandani that he's going to be facing serious federal threats for stopping ICE enforcement in the city of New York. This is what he promised to do when he won in his nomination speech last week."
Johnson posed a philosophical question about intervention: "Do we let our great American cities fail? Do we give them what they want? Democracy, of course, is the people know what they want, and they deserve to get it good and hard. So, do we give New Yorkers the communism that they wish to live under? Is that the only way to learn? I don't know the answer to that question."
Alligator Alcatraz and Border Security
The conversation touched on Johnson's recent visit to what's been dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz," a detention facility in Florida. Johnson asked Trump about his 2018 suggestion of putting alligators in the Rio Grande. Trump responded: "I was thinking about that. I must say it was meant more as a joke, but the more I thought of it, the more I liked it if you want to know the truth. And they were seriously they were actually crocodiles. They were crocodiles from Africa. They are a step beyond. But no, that was really meant as a joke, but a lot of people liked it and a lot of people think we should do it, frankly."
Johnson described the facility: "It's the cleanest and most secure and most sanitary conditions I've seen in any prison. That is a higher standard than our federal prison system actually has for inmates. And that it's right there on an airport. As soon as you arrive, as soon as a detainee arrives at Alligator Alcatraz, which is the most dangerous prison in America, not because of the conditions inside, but because of the conditions outside because it is surrounded by a million alligators and is surrounded by hundreds of millions of mosquitoes about the size of hummingbirds and also pythons and other venomous snakes. You just can't escape from it."
Johnson was impressed by the construction efficiency: "The people who built Alligator Alcatraz here in the state of Florida, they were able to build it in 72 hours. This is the It was nothing. It was a slab of concrete and they have a fully functional federal prison in 72 hours. So, it can happen with the right leadership. Government can actually work for the people."
The New Media Landscape
Johnson reflected on the changing media environment: "We are the media now and that shows like Charlie's and shows like mine, you can find me at Benny Johnson on all social media and the Benny Show, that we are able to ask the questions that people actually care about. We were able to ask President Trump four questions. All four of them trended globally and worldwide and got major attention, and we were able to run circles around what is the corporate media and that's because we answer to you the American people and it's our great honor to do that."
He praised the White House's approach: "It's a huge compliment to the team at the White House that allows for independent voices to have access to the president and that's how you actually get the truth."
Student Action Summit 2025
Kirk reminded the audience about the upcoming Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida, where Johnson will be speaking. The event features an impressive lineup including Greg Gutfeld, Tucker Carlson, Kristi Noem, Donald Trump Jr., Laura Ingraham, and Stephen Bannon. Kirk, Johnson, and Bannon will all be broadcasting their shows live from the event.
Johnson praised Turning Point USA events: "It just makes you believe in your country and you can see the core of the energy where the nation is heading and this moment that we're in right now wouldn't surprise you if you were going to these conferences four years ago and you could see that this was a movement that was durable that was going to last and you can't kill an idea and this is an idea that this country isn't over yet and that we have God's providence here and it's really wonderful to see it on display and in full motion."
Video Transcript
Joining us now is a great American and a
great friend, Benny Johnson, host of the
Benny Show. Benny, welcome to the
program. Uh there's lots to discuss, but
I was moved because one of my family
members says, "Charlie, do you remember
that amazing documentary you did when
you sent Benny down to Cuba? You should
remind people about it with the rise of
Mr. Mom Donnie." So Benny, you know, has
done many, many projects with us. I want
to play this piece of tape here and I
believe this is from the uh yeah, this
is from the Benny uh Cuba documentary,
but I'm going to play this and then I'll
allow you to kind of narrate it. This is
uh cut 368. People rushing into a
grocery store cuz they only open them at
certain times and have a set supply.
This is what governmentr run grocery
stores get you. Play cut 368. All of a
sudden, they the guards come to the gate
and they open the gate. And that's when
I've never seen this before, but
everyone swarmed. People started
running. Even people that weren't in
line that were just like in the area
just start sprinting in there because
this is their only chance to get their
essentials and the necessities to feed
their families.
[Applause]
Benny, what did you learn? We went to
Cuba. We have more pieces of tape to
play, but Benny, you went to Cuba. What
did you learn about governmentr run
grocery stores? Yeah, I mean I you know
I understand why people would flee Cuba
and risk being interned in alligator
Alcatraz because it is truly hell on
earth. It's like a bizarro world video
game, Charlie. It's like when you see a
post-apocalyptic scene inside of a
Hollywood movie where there was once a
thriving society. There was once a
functional people, a functional uh
architecture of the city, but it's all
been rotted and it's all been crumbled
down to its lowest common criminal
denominator. It's very sad to go through
Havana. It's very sad to see these old
beautiful Spanish castles that have just
decayed and are now truly just crumbling
directly into the street. And the people
there in the nation of Cuba are also
eternally depressed. It was a sick
experience. It was experience that's
obviously telling for the capacity of
this ideology to potentially migrate
here into the states. It's horrible. We
had the mayor of Miami on who's himself
uh a son of Cuban dissident that had to
flee Castro's regime and he said this is
American Castro. Zorhan Mandami is
American Castro and he will do to New
York what he's done to Havana. Inside of
that grocery store, by the way, every
single item there was just
governmentowned stamps on everything.
So, like a can of beans, a piece of
frozen chicken. There was mainly empty
shelves, but everything just comes from
the same process. I'm going to play
this. It's unbelievable.
There you go. There's some of those
video. Let's play cut 370.
The effects of socialism are everywhere.
Crumbling infrastructure and disgusting
living conditions. That is what
socialism has brought to Cuba. Maybe the
socialists in America should take a
short trip, a short 90-mi trip, and come
here and say they want this in America.
It was like going through ruins.
And the horrific thing is that no one is
living in the Pantheon right now. Like
no one lives in the Acropolis. It's a
ruin. These are ruins that people are
living in. Uh socialism is popular in
America now. What do you think of
socialism? It's very popular. Yeah. Wow.
But now for us, no. is good for Cuban
people now. Not good. No, my friend. No,
it's possibly a petroleum. Yeah, nothing
for this. The people know it's possible
go for the walk game. And one more here.
This is the grocery store one. Before I
play the grocery store one, remind
people, Benny, this is how c this is
what Mandani wants to do in New York.
I'm going to play it in a second, but
walk us through. So, you went to Cuba.
How did you even get cameras in it?
Remind the audience about all of it.
Well, they confiscated our drones when
we got into Cuba. We had to sit there
for 6 hours while they went through all
of our bags. And then they eventually
raided the Airbnb that we were staying
at. Federal agents from the communist
regime raided the Airbnb and tried to
take our SD cards, tried to take the
footage that we were filming there. So,
we had to actually flee the country.
Thank God that President Trump was
president. If Joe Biden were president,
I assume that we would be potentially
incarcerated to this day. I want to go
back to Cuba. Uh, I want to head back
there and show because it's just gotten
worse. It hasn't gotten any better. It's
gotten far worse uh than when we were
there. This the footage that you're
showing is 5 years old. And so I would
actually like to head back uh and show
people because it seems like this is now
making again a resurgence. They want to
bring Havana to New York. 373.
So I really hope that you like konita
mango marmalade because we have a whole
aisle. Here
in Cuba, you can get an individually
wrapped hamburger.
And that's as fresh as the meat actually
gets. Oh, this one's an old baby. But my
god, can you get a lot of the exact same
brand of garbanzo beans here?
And then after you're done buying all
these incredible products, you can stand
in line for literally an hour, which is
as long as we've been standing in line.
And I'm telling you, you probably are
not going to like Cuba that much. There
was literally no fresh fruit, no fresh
meat, no fresh vegetables, nothing.
There was one brand of the things they
did have, and the things they didn't
have, well, screw you.
I'm actually glad that I've I'm glad
that I've uh gone on I'm glad I've gone
on the Communist Cuba diet. I've
probably lost like 35 pounds since we
filmed that. And so I you know I being
there inspired me, Charlie. So I've just
I've been eating garbanzo beans for the
last 5 years uh straight from Havana.
It's actually done wonders. The the best
weight loss program that we have, it's
notic. It's not keto. It's not cold
plunging. We will send you to Cuba. You
will lose 30 pounds in a month. AOC
could use that actually right now. Uh
AOC could potentially shots fired. I'm
not saying anything. More effective than
Ombic. You got You see capitalism, you
tend to gain weight. We got We got
nothing but food here. You then went to
AOCC's now origin. We I think we have a
piece of tape here. But you went to
AOC's hometown. She's not a girl from
the Bronx. Is that what we're finding
out? Oh, no. She's a total fraud. Ever
since she was an infant, before she
could walk or talk, AOC has been raised
in a leafy, clean, and beautiful suburb
that is pristine and low on crime. That
is one of those places that gets painted
in American history by people like
Norman Rockwell. It's a place called
Yorktown Heights, the hamlet of Yorktown
Heights. It's 120 minutes from downtown
Manhattan. It's a far ways away from the
hard scrabble workingclass
Bronx girl persona that AOC tries to
project onto the world. We went and
traveled there uh and exposed AOC for
the fraud that she is. You know, a lot
of people in MAGA hats and there's
actually a Trump sign right across from
AOCC's home that she was raised in,
Charlie. And it's not that she was just
like lived there for a little bit. She
went to preschool there, then she went
to elementary school, middle school,
high school there, and then she
graduated and went to Boston University.
So, she's a total and complete fraud.
The workingclass Bronx girl uh is a
liar. Let's play cut 363.
Yo, what's up, guys? Welcome to the
Bronx. This is where AOC says she's
from.
And this is where AOC is actually from.
Welcome to Yorktown, the business hamlet
of Yorktown Heights. There's mansions
everywhere. It's beautiful. It's green.
It's pristine. It's clean. And they even
have a Christopher Columbus Society. I
thought AOC got all those statues ripped
down. Some structural racism right here
in AOCC's hometown. Today, we're going
to investigate the biggest lie in all of
politics, the fraud of AOC.
And so Benny, what did you learn in in
that investigation?
Well, me and the 40 million people who
have actually seen that video learned
that AOC has been lying and this is
working class stolen valor. It's exactly
what Kla Harris tried to do when she
said that she worked at McDonald's. H
this is something that is going to be
used against her if she tries to run in
2028. and Charlie, she is number two
according to some polls in the Democrat
positioning for 2028. So, this is a
major threat to AOC. I don't understand
why Democrats can't just accept that
America is a beautiful and wonderful
country and to be from a place like
Yorktown Heights is a major privilege
and you should be thankful for it and
not vengefully hate your country. But
here's what we learned from some of the
people that went to school with AOC
Charlie. learned that she was a big
bully and that she was unhappy and that
she was one of the people in high school
that you just didn't want to be around.
And so maybe she just took all that
angst and that lack of fulfillment and
that um self-deprecation into politics,
that self-loathing that you kind of see
on the left so often and she just
channeled it into communism like they
always do.
And so, Benny, kind of taking a step
back here and covering socialism for
quite some time, what is the driving
force of Mandani and how do we defeat
him? Yeah. Well, Trump told me yesterday
he's just going to put him in jail. So,
there's that. Uh, but that's because
Mandani is proposing multiple policies
that are patently illegal. Mandani wants
to tax people based on their skin color.
He says so and he doubled down on that,
Charlie, in fact this weekend saying
that white people in New York need to
pay more taxes. That's something that
obviously drew a rebuke from the Trump
Justice Department. But President Trump
told me yesterday when I asked him about
mom Donnie uh that he's going to be
facing serious federal threats for
stopping ICE enforcement in the city of
New York. This is what he promised to do
when he won in his nomination speech
last week. So, how do you stop them? I'm
not sure. And it begs the question,
Charlie, that I don't know the answer
to, which is, do we let our great
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what they want? Democracy, of course, is
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deserve to get it good and hard. So, do
we give New Yorkers the communism that
they wish to live under? Is that the
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[Music]
Benny will be at our student action
summit sas2025.com in Tampa. He lives in
Tampa. Benny, remind our audience how
great these Turning Point USA events
are.
Yeah, it just makes you believe in your
country and you can see the core of the
energy where the nation is heading and
this moment that we're in right now
wouldn't surprise you if you were going
to these conferences four years ago and
you could see that this was a movement
that was durable that was going to last
and you can't kill an idea and this is
an idea that this country isn't over yet
and that we have God's providence here
and it's uh really wonderful to see it
on display and in full motion. Man, we
saw it yesterday at Alcat alligator
Alcatres is wild. I do want to play
that. You asked the question of
President Trump at 348. Play cut 348.
Mr. President, in 2018, you suggested
putting alligators in the Rio Grand to
prevent crossings in Texas. Is this a
dream come true for you, sir? Well, I
was thinking about that. I must say it
was meant more as a joke, but the more I
thought of it, the more I liked it if
you want to know the truth. Uh, and they
were seriously they were actually
crocodiles. They were crocodiles from
Africa. They are a step beyond step
beyond. But no, that was really meant as
a joke, but a lot of people liked it and
a lot of people think we should do it,
frankly.
I mean, what people missed there,
Charlie, what people missed there,
Charlie, is that Donald Trump's open to
putting African crocodiles in the Rio
Grand. So, while Joe Biden was putting
African criminal aliens into small towns
in Ohio, uh, changing forever the
culture of those towns and making them
unrecognizable, Donald Trump is putting
African crocodiles in the Rio Grand.
He's open to it. And you can see
Secretary Gnome was kind of like, oh,
you know what? I haven't thought about
that in a while.
So, I'm just saying we're asking the
questions that people want, Charlie.
We're asking the questions that people
deserve to hear, you know. So, so tell
us being there up close and personal. It
was kind of like a mini Trump rally at
Alig Alligator Alcatraz. Christine Gnome
was there. We need more of this. What
else did you learn? And what did you see
at Alligator Alcatres? You want our
audience to know about? That it's the
cleanest and most secure and most
sanitary conditions I've seen in any
prison. That is a higher standard uh
than our federal prison system actually
has for inmates. And that it's right
there on an airport. As soon as you
arrive, as soon as a detainee arrives at
Alligator Alcatraz, which is the most
dangerous prison in America, not because
of the conditions inside, but because of
the conditions outside because it is
surrounded by a million alligators and
is surrounded by hundreds of millions of
mosquitoes about the size of
hummingbirds and also pythons and other
venomous snakes. You just can't escape
from it. But there is an air strip
there, Charlie, and you can take a plane
home. And that's the first thing that's
offered the criminal aliens that are
brought into Alligator Alcatres. And
this is going to shock you, Charlie. The
government can do things. It can if it
wants to. The people who built Alligator
Alcatraz here in the state of Florida,
they were able to build it in 72 hours.
This is the It was nothing. It was a
slab of concrete and they have a fully
functional federal prison in 72 hours.
So, it can happen with the right
leadership. Government can actually work
for the people. And the only way out and
the best way out of Alligator Alcatres
is certainly not to try and escape, but
to get on a plane and to go home. Benny
Johnson, uh, tell our audience about
where they can find you, where they
could support you, and what is the best
part of the golden age that you are
experiencing right now that you want
that you think is not getting enough
media attention.
Well, I you know, I think this is the
the
given the past 24 hours, what I'd like
to say on that is that we are the media
now and that shows like Charlie's and
shows like mine, you can find me at
Benny Johnson on all social media and
the Benny Show, uh that that we are able
to uh ask the questions that people
actually care about. We were able to ask
President Trump four questions. All four
of them trended globally and worldwide
and got uh major attention. and we were
able to run circles around what is the
corporate media and that's because we
answer to you the American people and
it's our great honor to do that. It's uh
a huge compliment to the uh team at the
White House that allows for independent
voices to have access to the president
and that's how you actually get the
truth. Benny, thank you so much. We'll
see you soon. We'll see you at the
Student Action Summit a week from
Friday. Thanks so much. Thanks,
Charlotte. sas2025.com.
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