Charlie Kirk and Dinesh D'Souza Face Backlash After Telling Conservatives to Trust Government on Epstein Files

[00:00] Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein

[00:02] for the time being. I'm going to trust

[00:03] my friends in the administration. I'm

[00:05] going to trust my friends in the

[00:06] government. Wow. I'm going to trust my

[00:08] friends in the government. Is uh Charlie

[00:10] Kirk a liberal now? What's up my

[00:12] beautiful freedom loving friend? This is

[00:14] where we call out lies, hypocrisy,

[00:16] corruption, and help spread the light of

[00:17] truth and freedom because truth

[00:19] conquers. Now, we're day seems like 495

[00:23] of there's no Epstein files. Uh a little

[00:26] fallout. Something interesting is

[00:28] happening. There's some very well-known

[00:30] conservative commentators saying, "I'm

[00:33] not going to talk about the Epstein

[00:34] files." Yes, maybe even I've talked

[00:36] about them for years. Of course, there's

[00:37] all this, but all of a sudden, they're

[00:39] changing their tune. They're saying,

[00:40] "I'm not going to talk about them

[00:42] anymore. Let's just trust the

[00:44] government." We'll take a look at a

[00:45] couple of them. We'll also take a look

[00:47] at a couple very well-known conservative

[00:49] commentators that are basically saying,

[00:50] "Over my dead body, will I just move on

[00:55] from there's no Epstein client list."

[00:57] We'll see what they have to say. I'm

[00:59] curious what you have to say about all

[01:01] this in the comments. And we'll also get

[01:03] to how I think there is something much

[01:06] bigger involved here than just the

[01:09] Epstein list. Starting out with Charlie

[01:11] Kirk shocking the world when he says,

[01:14] "I'm just going to trust my friends in

[01:16] the government." Honestly, I'm done

[01:17] talking about Epstein for the time

[01:19] being. I'm going to trust my friends in

[01:20] the administration. I'm going to trust

[01:22] my friends in the government to do what

[01:24] needs to be done. Solve it. Balls in

[01:26] their hands. I've said plenty this last

[01:28] weekend. So, if you guys want to see my

[01:30] commentary on it, that's fine.

[01:31] >> Now, if you watched mainstream news, I

[01:35] don't know, let's just say from about

[01:37] 2020 to 2024, late 2024, you basically

[01:42] hear the regurgitated saying over and

[01:44] over. It's at least implied, trust the

[01:46] government.

[01:48] Trust the government. And you know the

[01:50] old saying, the biggest deception, you

[01:52] get a knock on your door and it's the

[01:55] government saying, "We're here to help."

[01:57] So, this shocked me when I heard Charlie

[01:59] Kirk say this. I'm just going to trust

[02:01] the government cuz that has been the

[02:04] anthem of not even the Liberal Party,

[02:07] but the leftist party over the past well

[02:10] Biden administration. Remember the whole

[02:13] COVID era? Like, we want you to do this.

[02:15] The government says it's good. Trust the

[02:17] government. Stay in your homes. You have

[02:19] to. It's for your It's for your

[02:21] protection. Trust the government. We are

[02:23] censoring

[02:25] speech. Yes. But it's for your

[02:27] protection. Trust the government. They

[02:30] have to censor speech to protect our

[02:33] freedom of speech. That doesn't make

[02:35] sense to me. Doesn't have to. If you

[02:37] just trust the government. That has been

[02:40] libtard speak 101 for the past four

[02:43] years. And here Charlie Kirk, a very

[02:45] well-known conservative commentator who

[02:47] I respect. I still respect. I don't

[02:50] share this opinion. But here he is

[02:52] singing the same anthem that libtards

[02:55] have been singing for the past handful

[02:57] of years. And he's not the only one.

[03:00] Let's take a look at Desh Duza. That

[03:02] name might ring a bell if it doesn't. He

[03:05] was the filmmaker of 2000 Mules, which

[03:07] was helping expose some irregularities

[03:10] in the 2020 election. Now, he and

[03:14] Charlie Kirk have something in common.

[03:15] I'll share with you after this clip.

[03:18] >> I'm going to talk about the Epstein

[03:20] files and I'm going to make the case

[03:24] that even though there are unanswered

[03:27] questions about Epstein, it is in fact

[03:30] time to move on. Part of being on a

[03:34] political team is maintaining a certain

[03:36] amount of maturity. Recognizing you

[03:38] can't win them all. Recognizing there

[03:40] are some things that are important to

[03:42] you that are less important to the guy

[03:44] that you've put in charge who is trying

[03:46] to focus on things right in front of

[03:48] him. And so having a sense of

[03:49] perspective, having a sense of balance,

[03:52] having a sense of maturity, I think is

[03:54] more important even than getting to the

[03:57] bottom uh of what really happened with

[03:59] Jeffrey Eps.

[04:00] >> Wow. That's uh that's pretty big.

[04:02] Concluding with I think having a sense

[04:04] of maturity presumably by not talking

[04:07] about the Epstein case anymore is more

[04:10] important than getting to the bottom of

[04:12] it. In other words, having a sense of

[04:14] maturity. Just moving on is more

[04:16] important than getting to the truth.

[04:19] Now, these guys were a little bit lit up

[04:21] in the comments section. We'll see that

[04:24] in a second. But first, here's what

[04:26] Charlie Kirk and Desh Duza both have in

[04:29] common. They've both got an inside line

[04:31] to President Trump. Charlie Kirk had

[04:33] said over the weekend he had a call with

[04:35] President Trump and after that Charlie

[04:38] Kirk flipped his script. He went with

[04:40] Trump's talking point. You've seen Trump

[04:42] say to the media, "You're still talking

[04:44] about Epstein. Let's move on. Let's not

[04:46] talk about this anymore. It's old." So

[04:48] now Charlie Kirk is singing presumably

[04:51] not we can definitely know exactly what

[04:54] Trump's saying but presumably he's

[04:56] changed his tune because he talked to

[04:58] President Trump and Desh Douza I'm

[05:01] pretty confident he's got an inside line

[05:03] with President Trump. I would bet he had

[05:06] a conversation with either Trump or some

[05:09] of Trump's closest people and through

[05:11] that influence they were compelled to go

[05:15] with the Trump administration narrative

[05:17] of let's just move on. Let's stop

[05:19] talking about Epstein and by the way

[05:22] maybe tell your audience the same thing.

[05:24] Let's get that influence out there. Now

[05:26] I can uh both respect that and

[05:28] disrespect that at the same time. I

[05:30] think a person of principle when they're

[05:32] using their own discernment, you got to

[05:34] go with what seems right feels right to

[05:37] you. And what feels right to me is there

[05:40] is truth that is being suppressed here

[05:43] in this case. And we the people deserve

[05:46] to know the truth. This is about minors

[05:49] who were predatorized on. We deserve to

[05:52] know the truth. And there's potential

[05:54] elites being protected by the

[05:56] suppression of the truth. We the people

[05:58] won't back down on this. And at the same

[06:00] time, I could understand, hey, if I

[06:03] talked to President Trump personally,

[06:05] now that's a very influential guy. That

[06:08] might get me to do one of two things. It

[06:10] might get me to abandon my principles. I

[06:12] hope it wouldn't, but it's possible. Or

[06:15] it might convince me Trump is earnestly

[06:18] doing the right thing here. That's

[06:20] something I'm not convinced on the

[06:21] outside looking in through media and all

[06:25] the sources we can get. But if I had a

[06:27] personal phone call with him, I

[06:29] guarantee I'd have a better chance of

[06:31] being convinced to go with Trump's

[06:33] perspective on this than the what's

[06:36] mostly the perspective of we the people

[06:38] of hey, you're hiding something and

[06:40] we're pissed. You're gaslighting us. You

[06:43] know, I hate to say the Trump

[06:44] administration is gaslighting us on the

[06:47] Epstein files because so many people in

[06:50] the Trump administration, including

[06:51] President Trump himself, Donald Trump

[06:53] Jr., Cash Patel, Dan Bonino, Pam Bondi

[06:56] have all said things either the the list

[07:00] is on my desk or there's definitely a

[07:02] list and the FBI has it and the fact

[07:04] that they're not addressing that they

[07:05] previously said that is gaslighting.

[07:08] Maybe there is no list. I kind of doubt

[07:10] it. But even if there isn't, they're

[07:11] still gaslighting at play because

[07:14] they're not addressing the opposite

[07:16] thing that they previously said relative

[07:19] to the thing they're now saying. So, in

[07:21] a second, we'll see a couple quick clips

[07:24] of prominent conservative commentators

[07:27] who are saying the exact opposite of

[07:28] what Charlie Kirk and Desh Duza have

[07:31] said. They're saying, "This is kind of

[07:33] the hill. We're willing to die on."

[07:36] Before we do that, let's see what we the

[07:38] people had to say in the comments

[07:40] section on these two clips. Just urging

[07:43] you to move on. I'm not going to talk

[07:45] about it. Maybe you shouldn't either. On

[07:46] the Charlie Kirk video, we see

[07:48] conservatives are the new punk. Uh,

[07:51] trust the government. Good lord. Yeah,

[07:54] I've ridiculed him for that. I've got a

[07:56] newscaster video coming out ridiculing

[07:59] him. That that's the most libtard thing

[08:02] you could say. Charlie Kirk, if it came

[08:04] out of my mouth, it'd be just as

[08:05] libtard. Dear Lord. And then this meme.

[08:10] You read that for yourself. This post, I

[08:13] think this is a great summary. things.

[08:16] Don't trust the government. Is kind of

[08:18] from the typical freedom loving

[08:19] conservative perspective. Climate don't

[08:22] trust the government. Healthcare, don't

[08:23] trust the government. Taxes, don't trust

[08:25] the government. Wars, don't trust the

[08:27] government. Epstein, trust the

[08:29] government. Yeah, that is I think that

[08:32] statement of Charlie Kirk where he made

[08:34] that from it was just influence of

[08:36] Trump's call or it's like his genuine

[08:39] perspective. It's definitely out of

[08:43] alignment with probably a lot of other

[08:45] things Charlie Kirk says. Charlie Kirk

[08:46] also has a lot of criticism over minor

[08:50] transition surgeries as do I. And uh for

[08:54] a long time the government was saying no

[08:56] this is this is a really good thing. You

[08:58] didn't trust the government on that.

[09:00] Trust the government on this. Now

[09:01] granted there is a big difference

[09:03] between the Biden administration

[09:04] government and the Trump administration

[09:06] government. Yet, I would dare say a true

[09:09] patriot does not put full trust in the

[09:12] government, no matter who they are. You

[09:13] can have someone like President Trump,

[09:15] who I highly respect. I'm so grateful

[09:17] he's our president, but guess what? It's

[09:19] not one person in the government. There

[09:21] are more people in the government than

[09:22] you and I could possibly ever list. DHS

[09:25] trust the government of tens of

[09:27] thousands, if not hundreds of thousands

[09:29] of people. I don't know. I'm guessing

[09:31] not 100% of them are trustworthy. We'll

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[11:19] Duza gets lit up in the comments as

[11:21] well. Does Dash have a family? Children.

[11:24] How can these people talk about

[11:25] protecting children and being the party

[11:28] of family values? Yeah, when they're

[11:30] saying like this predatory ring of

[11:32] Epstein, let's just move on. I agree. I

[11:35] don't think there's a parent in this

[11:36] world. Well, there is apparently him,

[11:39] but I don't think a good parent would

[11:41] say, "Let's move on from this. It's

[11:44] fine." Uh, there is Fu Desh Duza. I'm

[11:48] guessing this person disagrees. military

[11:51] arms. Wow. The administration is pulling

[11:54] out these stops to get their influencers

[11:56] in line. I wonder what they threatened

[11:58] him with. Yeah, I saw saw an article.

[12:00] It's a report here say I can't confirm

[12:02] it that President Trump had calls with

[12:05] prominent influencers. Uh Charlie Kirk

[12:08] said he had a call with President Trump.

[12:10] And if that's true, what the speculation

[12:12] is is the call President Trump had with

[12:15] various prominent influencers was to get

[12:18] them on board with going with his

[12:20] Epstein talking points. And this person

[12:23] seems to be calling that out. Now, let's

[12:25] hear from some prominent conservatives

[12:27] who say, "No, we are not moving on from

[12:30] this." And that's not going to change.

[12:33] Starting with the no BS Matt Walsh. Now,

[12:37] of course, we have no idea what

[12:38] information, if any, this sociopath uh

[12:41] this evil woman will ultimately reveal.

[12:43] But

[12:43] >> speaking of Jizlane Maxwell and her

[12:46] call, let me testify in front of

[12:48] Congress, Congress quickly voted no on

[12:50] that. But that's what he's referencing.

[12:52] >> The fact remains that especially after

[12:54] the humiliating display by Bondi and the

[12:56] DOJ we've all just witnessed, it's

[12:58] probably worth listening to Maxwell's

[13:00] testimony. If a client list exists at

[13:02] this point, she's the most likely person

[13:03] to tell us. Now, yes, it's an indictment

[13:05] of Pam Bondi and the DOJ that we see any

[13:08] reason to listen to a ghoul like this,

[13:10] but that's where we are. Millions of

[13:13] Americans are not satisfied with what

[13:14] we've been told, and we shouldn't be

[13:16] because it's been contradictory and

[13:18] insulting to our intelligence every step

[13:20] of the way.

[13:20] >> Amen to that. That one line sums it up.

[13:23] It's been contradictory and insulting to

[13:27] our intelligence.

[13:28] >> So, now we're looking elsewhere. This is

[13:30] what happens when people are deceived

[13:32] and strung along for years only to be

[13:34] told that they're not entitled to any

[13:36] kind of transparency whatsoever. People

[13:38] are not just going to move on with their

[13:39] lives no matter how badly you want them

[13:41] to. There's a reason for that. And I

[13:43] want to make this very clear uh to those

[13:45] on the right, including the president

[13:47] himself, who are telling us to just drop

[13:50] the subject and move on. We can't drop

[13:52] it. We can't move on because what we

[13:55] want is justice. We have a deep desire

[13:59] for justice and we can see how the

[14:02] corrupt and the powerful are never held

[14:05] accountable. We can look at our cities

[14:06] and see violent criminals running

[14:08] rampant in the streets. Also not held

[14:10] accountable. We want these evildoers to

[14:13] be punished. We want the innocent to be

[14:15] defended. We want justice. It's one of

[14:18] the most basic and most honorable of all

[14:21] human desires. We want to see that

[14:23] justice is done. We want to know who

[14:25] else was in those awful videos that Pam

[14:27] Bondi told us about.

[14:28] >> Tens of thousands of videos, Pam Bondi

[14:32] said. Yeah. Well, who was in them? That

[14:34] is just such an obvious question. And

[14:37] the gaslighting of her never addressing

[14:40] that question. Like you're saying,

[14:42] there's videos. Are they all selfie

[14:44] videos? I don't think they are. Who else

[14:46] is in them?

[14:47] >> And we want those people to be dragged

[14:49] in front of us weeping and begging for

[14:52] mercy. We want them exposed and

[14:54] humiliated and shamed and punished in

[14:57] the harshest and most painful way

[15:00] because that's justice and we're not

[15:02] going to drop the subject until we get

[15:03] it. So unseal everything including the

[15:05] search warrants and the financial

[15:06] disclosures. Tell us what exactly was in

[15:08] those truckloads of documents that you

[15:10] recovered in New York. Show us the phase

[15:13] 2 Epstein files that you told us about

[15:15] just a a few months ago. Don't give us

[15:17] any more excuses from bureaucrats on Fox

[15:19] News. Don't give us any more

[15:21] stonewalling and double speak.

[15:22] >> Now, I would dare say Matt Walsh speaks

[15:26] for the majority of freedom lovers and I

[15:29] think Charlie Kirk, Desh Duza speak for

[15:33] a very small minority when they're

[15:36] saying, "Let's move on." Now, Candace

[15:39] Owens says this Epstein cover up with

[15:41] the Trump administration is terminal

[15:44] cancer to the MAGA movement. Before we

[15:47] get to the short clip of what she has to

[15:49] say on that, here's what's at play

[15:52] that's bigger than the Epstein case.

[15:55] There's some critics of Trump supporters

[15:57] saying like, "You're not being loyal to

[16:00] President Trump. You're not being loyal

[16:02] to the Republican party." And I would

[16:05] say that's absolutely right and that's

[16:08] preferable. Here's the thing that I've

[16:11] observed with freedom lovers like you

[16:14] and I. What we care about most is

[16:17] freedom and by extension of that truth.

[16:21] We are loyal to freedom and truth. We've

[16:25] gone through a really hard previous

[16:28] handful of years and that's just carved

[16:31] us out of granite to be these just

[16:34] stones who stand for freedom and truth.

[16:38] We don't stand for loyalty to a party.

[16:42] And by the way, I think President Trump

[16:43] did an excellent job of helping forge

[16:47] these strong values in people like you

[16:50] and I. He did such a great job of making

[16:53] us helping us become loyal to freedom

[16:56] and truth that we are now way more loyal

[16:59] to freedom and truth than we are to him

[17:01] than we are to the Republican party. I

[17:04] think many of us, including myself,

[17:07] would have been pretty a-olitical until

[17:09] we realized, oh, the the political party

[17:12] home for freedom, what we care most

[17:14] about, that's become the conservative

[17:16] party. I started seeing that in 2020.

[17:19] Like, all right, like I like

[17:21] conservativism much better than

[17:23] communism, but I never pledge loyalty to

[17:26] the party, and I never will. What I will

[17:27] pledge loyalty to is freedom and truth.

[17:32] So the mega base, yes, we're fans of

[17:35] President Trump. Yet the mega movement

[17:38] is created something far more powerful

[17:41] than loyalty to, I think, for all

[17:43] intents and purposes, a really great

[17:45] leader, President Trump. It's helped

[17:48] forge this loyalty, potentially country

[17:51] saving loyalty to freedom and truth. And

[17:54] that's what's bigger than this Epstein

[17:57] case. That's why many of us won't be

[17:59] taking the advice of Charlie Kirk and

[18:01] Desh Duza. Ah, it's be mature. Just move

[18:04] on. Yeah, we're actually something more

[18:06] than mature. We're patriots. And as Mark

[18:10] Twain once said, a patriot isn't someone

[18:12] who's loyal to their government. It's

[18:14] someone who's loyal to their country.

[18:17] And with the values of America, being

[18:19] loyal to our country means we are loyal

[18:22] to freedom and truth. Now, let's hear

[18:25] what Candace Owens has to say who

[18:27] believes the subpstein cover up. If it

[18:30] doesn't change, it's terminal cancer to

[18:32] the MAGA movement.

[18:33] >> Reconcile this Donald Trump with the

[18:36] Trump that we're seeing right now. The

[18:37] Trump that is gaslighting the public

[18:39] right now. The Trump that I voted for

[18:41] across multiple elections. The Epstein

[18:43] scandal is definitely terminal cancer to

[18:46] Trump's MAGA movement. There's no

[18:47] question about that. I actually said to

[18:48] my husband this weekend, we were talking

[18:50] about it that in order for Trump to get

[18:52] out of this, this is how bad it is. In

[18:54] order for him to actually make the MAGA

[18:56] base forget this, like essentially move

[18:58] on from Jeffrey Epstein, he would

[19:00] essentially have to come right out and

[19:02] repeal income tax in the United States.

[19:04] And then we would be extremely happy.

[19:06] Everyone would be very happy. And then

[19:08] we'd go, "Actually, thanks Trump, but we

[19:10] still remember the Epstein scandal and

[19:12] we want the list." That's how bad it is.

[19:13] There's just no making anybody forget

[19:16] about this Epstein scandal.

[19:17] >> Yeah, I would agree. Even if Trump

[19:19] repeals income tax, which I would

[19:22] personally like. Uh yeah, that won't I

[19:24] I'll appreciate that, but that won't

[19:25] make me forget about this little this

[19:28] little list that we were told exists and

[19:32] then the same people are telling us it

[19:34] doesn't. Move on. Why? Cuz trust the

[19:37] government. Listen to Charlie Kirk. My

[19:39] beautiful freedom loving friends. That's

[19:42] what some prominent conservative

[19:44] commentators are saying on each side of

[19:46] this. You've heard what I think. Let me

[19:49] know what you think. Are you more of a

[19:51] Charlie Kirk? let's just move on, trust

[19:54] our friends in the government, or are

[19:56] you more of a Matt Walsh that says, "No,

[19:59] I will never move on from this. It's too

[20:02] important." Let me know in the comments.

[20:03] I'd love to know where you stand on it.

[20:05] And I look forward to seeing you on our

[20:07] next video. But until then, stay