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Record-Breaking Pre-Orders Signal America's Concern About China
Charlie Kirk welcomes Peter Schweizer to discuss his blockbuster book 'Red Handed: How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win,' which Harper Collins reports has received unprecedented pre-order numbers—the highest they've ever seen for a book. Schweizer expresses gratitude for the overwhelming interest, seeing it as evidence that millions of Americans are deeply concerned about Chinese infiltration of American leadership.
Kirk jokingly sets a goal for Schweizer to outsell 'To Kill a Mockingbird,' suggesting such an achievement would help save Western civilization. The conversation quickly turns to the serious allegations detailed in the book about how American elites have enriched themselves while helping China gain strategic advantages over the United States.
From Corruption to Espionage: The Biden Family's Chinese Connections
Schweizer explains that he first reported on the Biden family's commercial ties with China back in 2018, initially viewing it as a story about cronyism, corruption, and self-dealing. However, with new evidence from Hunter Biden's laptop, emails, and business partner accounts, the story has taken a troubling turn into the realm of intelligence operations and possible espionage.
The investigation traced exactly who made the commercial deals happen for the Biden family in China. The findings are stunning: the Biden family companies received approximately $31 million from Chinese businessmen, and every single one of these deals was arranged by individuals with ties to the highest levels of Chinese intelligence.
The Ministry of State Security Connection
Schweizer details a $20 million deal where Hunter Biden received an ownership stake in a financial management company financed by the Chinese government, despite having no background in finance. The person who made this deal happen was Che Feng, who at the same time was business partners with the vice minister for state security in China—their spy agency equivalent to the KGB.
This vice minister's specific responsibilities included recruiting foreign nationals to spy for China and overseeing North American intelligence operations. Another businessman involved in transferring $5 million to one of Hunter Biden's companies, Mr. Zhao, was business partners with the family of the former minister of state security—the person who runs China's entire spy apparatus.
Schweizer emphasizes the concentration of people connected to Chinese intelligence who threw deals at the Biden family. The Chinese intelligence service and these businessmen are not philanthropists—they expect something in return. Since the deals kept flowing, Schweizer concludes they must have received what they wanted, leading to the serious question of whether the Biden family is compromised.
Intertwined Finances Between Hunter and Joe Biden
The investigation reveals that the $31 million didn't just go to Hunter Biden in isolation. Throughout Joe Biden's vice presidency and likely continuing today, Hunter and Joe Biden have had intertwined finances. Hunter Biden was paying Joe Biden's bills during the vice presidency, including routine expenses like a $300 phone bill for a strange back-channel private telephone line, as well as major expenses like renovations on Joe Biden's Delaware home.
This financial entanglement means that when Hunter Biden collected money from foreign deals, Joe Biden himself was a beneficiary. The evidence contradicts the narrative that Hunter's business dealings were separate from his father's political life.
The Tony Bobulinski Revelations
Kirk brings up Tony Bobulinski, whose interview with Tucker Carlson was viewed by over 10 million people before being largely ignored by mainstream media. Bobulinski explicitly stated that "10 for the big man" referred to Joe Biden and described a clandestine meeting at the Beverly Hilton Hotel where Joe Biden appeared happy-go-lucky but was clearly being factored into the deal with the Chinese.
Schweizer characterizes Bobulinski as a non-political, ethical person who decided to alert the public to what he witnessed. Everything Bobulinski said has been confirmed by documents from the laptop and other sources. The deal in question involved a Chinese company called CEFC, which was run by a businessman who had previously run an organization funded and directed by Chinese military intelligence. CEFC was located in a section of Beijing controlled by the Chinese military.
Bobulinski quickly recognized the red flags on the Chinese end and realized this wasn't legitimate business—it was about Hunter collecting money with Joe Biden intimately involved. Schweizer praises Bobulinski as a patriot who loves his country and saw serious problems with what was happening.
The Failed Office-Sharing Arrangement
One particularly revealing detail involves plans for Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and representatives from CEFC to share office space in Washington, D.C. Emails show Hunter discussing getting signage put up for this arrangement. The only reason it didn't happen was because one of the CEFC company executives was arrested by the FBI in New York on espionage and bribery charges, which blew up the whole arrangement.
This near-miss underscores the fundamental question of the Biden family being compromised. Schweizer states clearly that he believes they are compromised and that substantial evidence supports this conclusion.
Meticulous Research Methodology
When Kirk asks how Schweizer uncovered this information, he explains the challenge isn't too little information but too much. The $31 million figure comes from multiple verified sources. The $20 million from the BHR private equity fund deal was calculated by a University of Chicago business school professor who analyzed the fund size and Hunter's 10 percent ownership stake using industry standards.
The remaining $11 million comes from Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) filed with the Treasury Department. U.S. banks are required to file these reports when they see money flowing from sketchy or troubling sources to politically connected figures. The reports relating to Hunter Biden were released by the Senate, allowing Schweizer's team to trace the individuals and companies involved using Chinese corporate records and business publications.
Every piece of information in the book is footnoted—approximately 100 pages of notes and citations. Schweizer emphasizes that unlike sources used in the Steele dossier, he uses no anonymous sources. All information should be replicable and verifiable by readers.
A Bipartisan Problem of Elite Capture
Kirk emphasizes the bipartisan nature of the problem, noting that the book also features Nancy Pelosi, LeBron James, Elon Musk, and John Boehner on the cover. The rise of China has been fueled by American decisions—the United States made this happen through subsidies, facilitation, and cover-ups.
The Chinese Communist Party is on pace to eclipse America in every capacity—militarily, technologically, and economically. They believe their view of civilization is superior to the Western model. These are not people who mess around—they want global conquest, and American elites have enriched themselves while helping make it possible.
Schweizer's book exposes what he calls "elite capture"—how China has systematically compromised American leadership across both political parties and multiple industries. The investigation reveals a pattern of American elites prioritizing personal enrichment over national security and American interests.
Video Transcript
[00:14] [Music]
[00:21] from the campus to the car the bull horn
[00:24] to the microphone it's the charlie kirk
[00:26] show hey everybody charlie kirk here
[00:27] welcome back here with the phenomenal
[00:29] peter schweitzer
[00:30] red-handed how american elites get rich
[00:32] helping china win
[00:34] and i think peter you could correct me
[00:36] uh harper collins is that is that the
[00:38] imprint here they're saying they've
[00:39] never had such pre-orders
[00:42] of a book ever is that right that's what
[00:44] i heard that's right that's right yeah
[00:45] the book is selling uh great i'm very
[00:47] thankful to everybody who's got interest
[00:49] in this and uh charlie i'm sure you'd
[00:51] probably say the same it gives me hope
[00:53] that there are millions of people out
[00:55] there that are concerned about these
[00:56] issues and i got to be thankful for that
[00:58] i totally agree my
[01:00] goal is for you to beat to kill a
[01:01] mockingbird nothing against that book i
[01:02] actually kind of like it but that would
[01:04] actually that would save western
[01:06] civilization i think harper collins owns
[01:07] the rights to kill mockingbird i could
[01:09] be wrong okay peter i think you're right
[01:11] let's get into the specifics of joe
[01:13] biden he's right on your cover the floor
[01:15] is yours
[01:16] yeah i mean you know i first reported on
[01:19] the biden family's commercial ties with
[01:21] china back in 2018 and
[01:24] believed it to be a story about cronyism
[01:26] and corruption and self-dealing and
[01:28] chinese influence peddling um but
[01:30] charlie with new evidence that's come
[01:32] out from the laptop from uh emails from
[01:35] some hundred biden's business partners
[01:37] we got access to uh their email accounts
[01:40] um the story it's taken a significant
[01:43] and i think very troubling change and
[01:45] that change is
[01:47] we are now talking about a story that
[01:49] enters the realm of the intelligence
[01:52] world and possibly espionage what do i
[01:55] mean by that well we decided to look
[01:57] back and trace who actually made those
[02:00] commercial deals happen in china for the
[02:02] biden family and what we found is that
[02:04] the biden family
[02:06] and their companies uh hunters companies
[02:09] got some 31 million dollars
[02:12] from chinese businessmen in deals
[02:15] and every single one of these deals was
[02:17] put together by a chinese businessman
[02:20] who had ties to the highest levels of
[02:23] chinese intelligence um so what do i
[02:25] mean by that um well there's a 20
[02:27] million dollar uh
[02:29] deal where hunter biden gets an
[02:31] ownership stake in a financial
[02:32] management company
[02:34] that's
[02:35] financed by the chinese government of
[02:37] all things he of course has no
[02:38] background in finance or anything like
[02:41] that uh but he gets this deal who makes
[02:43] that deal happen who gives hunter biden
[02:46] uh this windfall of money um well his
[02:49] name is chai fang and chaefeng at the
[02:52] same time he is helping this deal happen
[02:54] for hunter biden
[02:55] is business partners with the vice
[02:58] minister for state security in china
[03:01] this is their spy agency their kgb
[03:04] and that person's job at the ministry
[03:07] for state security is recruiting foreign
[03:10] nationals to spy for china he's also
[03:12] reportedly in responsible for north
[03:15] american intelligence operations there's
[03:18] another businessman that helps make that
[03:20] deal happen and in another instance
[03:22] transfers five million dollars to one of
[03:25] hunter biden's companies um and that guy
[03:28] mr zhao is business partners with the
[03:31] family of the former minister of state
[03:34] security the guy who runs the entire spy
[03:36] apparatus in china
[03:38] so what you see charlie is this
[03:40] concentration
[03:42] of people connected to chinese
[03:44] intelligence who are throwing deals at
[03:47] the biden family and the biden family
[03:49] are taking those deals and the question
[03:52] everybody has to ask themselves i think
[03:54] we both know the answer to this is
[03:57] is the chinese intelligence service is
[03:58] the chinese state are these businessmen
[04:01] just philanthropists of course not of
[04:04] course not they are doing this because
[04:06] they expect something in return and the
[04:08] deals kept flowing so my belief is that
[04:10] they got certain things in return and we
[04:13] have to now entertain the notion that
[04:15] the biden family
[04:17] is compromised it's a crime syndicate
[04:19] the ccp is running the mob doesn't give
[04:22] money to the local charity because they
[04:23] care about the orphans or the
[04:24] disadvantaged they want something out of
[04:27] it how how much money has the biden
[04:29] family received from the ccp
[04:32] yeah so we believe it's some 31 million
[04:34] dollars that's based on the deals we
[04:36] know uh there could possibly be other
[04:39] deals um and what's important to point
[04:42] out here charlie is that that's people
[04:44] that will you know on the political left
[04:45] say will acknowledge that hunter biden
[04:48] did these things they they try to sort
[04:50] of siphon it off and say well you know
[04:52] that's hunter biden that's a hunter
[04:54] biden problem the problem is the other
[04:56] thing we point out in the book and
[04:58] there's numerous examples of this
[05:00] hunter biden and joe biden throughout
[05:02] the time he's vice president probably
[05:05] still today as far as i know have
[05:07] intertwined finances
[05:09] we know that during the vice presidency
[05:12] hunter biden was paying joe biden's
[05:14] bills uh some of those are kind of
[05:16] rudimentary that he'd pay a 300 phone
[05:19] bill so
[05:20] joe biden could have this kind of
[05:21] strange back channel private telephone
[05:24] line but he also paid for renovations on
[05:26] his home up in up in delaware there are
[05:28] other expenses so when hunter biden is
[05:31] getting these foreign deals and
[05:33] collecting this money one of the
[05:35] beneficiaries is joe biden himself
[05:40] so
[05:40] on page 37
[05:43] of your book red-handed that everyone
[05:44] should go buy at least five copies of
[05:47] and give to your loved ones and honestly
[05:48] give to your elected official if you see
[05:50] them in hand and be like what are you
[05:51] doing about this don't just tweet about
[05:53] it you mentioned someone that i was
[05:54] going to ask you about peter which is
[05:56] tony babilinski
[05:58] tony bob bielinski seemed to be a very
[05:59] ethical person he had no reason to do
[06:01] what he did tucker carlson aired his
[06:03] interview was viewed by 10 million plus
[06:05] people and then he got memory hold to
[06:07] use an orwell term we just kind of
[06:08] stopped talking about him
[06:10] yeah what's the latest with tony bobby
[06:12] linski because he told us very
[06:14] explicitly in no uncertain terms
[06:17] 10 for the big man the big man is joe
[06:18] biden we met in like the back of the
[06:21] beverly hilton hotel or something right
[06:23] in this kind of weird like clandestine
[06:25] meeting and joe biden came and he was
[06:27] like happy-go-lucky but it was very
[06:28] clear that he was being factored into
[06:30] the deal with the chinese tell us about
[06:32] the curious case of tony babilinski
[06:35] yeah uh you know tony i think is
[06:38] somebody uh who's a private person i
[06:40] mean he's not a political person at all
[06:42] um and he saw this happening
[06:45] and decided to alert the public to it
[06:48] let the public know what was going on
[06:49] and everything he said has been
[06:51] confirmed
[06:53] by the documents in the laptop and
[06:54] elsewhere that deal the 10 percent for
[06:57] the big guy phrase
[06:59] involved a chinese company called cefc
[07:03] cefc was run by a chinese businessman
[07:06] named yi
[07:08] who before taking this job had actually
[07:11] run an organization that was funded and
[07:14] directed by chinese military
[07:16] intelligence
[07:17] this company cefc
[07:20] was located uh in a section of beijing
[07:23] that is controlled by the chinese
[07:25] military so there's all kind of red
[07:27] flags and you know is tony bobolinsky
[07:29] recounts uh he found out pretty quickly
[07:32] uh who he was dealing with on the
[07:34] chinese end which troubled him but he
[07:36] also saw that what this was for hunter
[07:38] biden was not any kind of legitimate
[07:41] business this was about him collecting
[07:43] money and that joe biden was intimately
[07:46] involved
[07:47] so i think tony babilinski as far as i
[07:50] know
[07:50] really has decided to return to private
[07:52] life um you know hopefully he will make
[07:54] an appearance again and discuss further
[07:57] some of his findings but to me he was
[07:59] very very credible because he was not
[08:01] political uh he was brought into this
[08:04] deal because of his expertise
[08:06] he's a patriot he loves his country and
[08:08] he saw red flags all over the place when
[08:11] he got involved
[08:12] it's interesting to point out by the way
[08:13] charlie that that the cefc that that has
[08:16] all these ties to chinese intelligence
[08:19] the plan was for joe biden hunter biden
[08:24] and the representatives from cefc to
[08:26] actually share office space in
[08:29] washington dc in the emails hunter talks
[08:32] about uh getting signage put up to that
[08:34] effect the only reason that does not
[08:37] happen is one of the company executives
[08:39] from cefc gets arrested by the fbi on
[08:43] espionage and bribery charges in new
[08:45] york and that blows the whole thing up
[08:47] so it just tells you uh this fundamental
[08:50] question of the biden family being
[08:52] compromised has to be looked at i
[08:54] believe they are and i believe that
[08:56] there's substantial evidence that they
[08:58] are so let me ask you a technical
[08:59] question and i'm just curious and you
[09:01] don't have to you know divulge your
[09:03] trade secrets so you say
[09:05] 31 million dollars that you know of
[09:07] peter how do you find this information i
[09:09] mean it's not like you could type it
[09:10] into yahoo or bing like
[09:12] i'm just curious can you just kind of
[09:14] give our audience a little bit of an
[09:15] inside peek like you have a team i know
[09:16] that works on this i'm super curious
[09:18] about that
[09:19] yeah you know the challenge a lot of
[09:20] times you face in research today is not
[09:23] too little information but too much so
[09:25] the 31 figure is very straightforward 20
[09:28] million comes from the deal that he did
[09:31] with bhr
[09:32] which is that private equity fund
[09:35] and that information comes from a
[09:36] university of chicago a business school
[09:38] professor who looks at the size of the
[09:41] fund that hunter was brought into his 10
[09:44] percent ownership stake and says uh this
[09:47] is what this is worth by sort of
[09:49] industry standards it could be worth
[09:51] more uh but that's what it's worth so in
[09:53] some cases it's getting expert analysis
[09:56] serious expert analysis in other
[09:58] instances uh for example the other 11
[10:01] million you have five million dollar
[10:03] transfer to 100 biden's companies
[10:05] another six million that's transferred
[10:06] to hunter into some of his companies
[10:09] that actually comes from so-called
[10:11] suspicious activity reports or sars
[10:13] reports that are filed with the treasury
[10:16] department anytime a u.s bank
[10:19] sees money flowing from a let's say
[10:22] sketchy source or a troubling source to
[10:25] what is regarded as a politically
[10:27] connected figure and hunter biden would
[10:29] be one of those obviously it gets
[10:31] flagged and it goes to the treasury
[10:32] department um those reports uh relating
[10:36] to hunter biden were released by the
[10:38] senate last year so we went and looked
[10:40] at those reports we then went to chinese
[10:43] corporate records
[10:44] and we looked at chinese uh business
[10:46] publications and other sources to trace
[10:49] who were involved in these companies and
[10:51] then we of course find that found out
[10:53] through the hunter by the laptop who
[10:55] were the people that made those deals
[10:57] happen and then we did a detailed uh
[11:00] research analysis on chinese sources on
[11:03] who those individuals are every bit of
[11:05] information that we use is footnoted in
[11:07] the back uh unlike uh some sources that
[11:10] were used in the in the uh steele
[11:12] dossier fusion do not use any yeah we
[11:15] don't use any anonymous sources as far
[11:17] as i'm concerned anonymous sources are
[11:19] are basically worthless you should be
[11:21] able to show them and share them and
[11:22] people should be able to replicate them
[11:24] on their own and you can do that with
[11:26] this book i have the book in front of me
[11:28] and i am not exaggerating there are a
[11:31] hundred pages of notes and citations i'm
[11:33] just kind of estimating that's about
[11:34] right yeah 100 pages if you count the
[11:36] index you count the notes uh the fusion
[11:38] gps dossier definitely did not have that
[11:40] and that
[11:41] we've got a minute remaining peter and i
[11:43] think that's so interesting and your
[11:44] answer is straightforward which is like
[11:45] we just did the work like we just looked
[11:47] at what was out there we went into the
[11:48] documents you know it's amazing we have
[11:51] multi-billion dollar media companies
[11:52] that wouldn't touch this stuff but
[11:54] investigative journalist says okay well
[11:56] what would this be what would that be 31
[11:58] million dollars to the current president
[11:59] united states you think that would
[12:01] concern some people
[12:03] certainly did when trump wanted to do a
[12:05] hotel deal or something in moscow that
[12:07] was something they definitely wanted to
[12:09] talk about in the next segment peter i
[12:10] want to talk about any one of the six
[12:12] that you have on the bottom of your book
[12:14] that you think our audience should
[12:15] deserve to know uh about pelosi or
[12:18] lebron james or elon musk or boehner
[12:20] it's bipartisan and this is really
[12:21] important for people to realize that the
[12:23] rise of china has been fueled by our
[12:26] decisions we made this happen we have
[12:28] subsidized it we facilitated it we've
[12:30] covered up for it and the chinese
[12:32] communist party is on pace to eclipse us
[12:35] in every single capacity militarily
[12:37] technologically
[12:39] and they believe that their view of
[12:40] civilization is superior to ours these
[12:42] people do not mess around they want
[12:44] global conquest how american elites can
[12:46] get rich helping china win red handed by
[12:49] peter schweitzer i'm learning so much um
[12:51] from elite capture to uh what was that
[12:53] big help bad mouth it's fascinating so
[12:57] check out the book everybody one more
[12:58] segment with the great peter schweitzer
[13:00] and we're gonna ask about the other six
[13:02] elites he has on the front page of his
[13:03] book charlie kirk be right back
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