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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Charlie Kirk and Robert Hersov Expose South Africa's Escalating Violence Against White Farmers and Economic Collapse
Charlie Kirk sits down with Robert Hersov to discuss the alarming situation unfolding in South Africa, where stadiums full of people chant "kill the Boer" while mainstream media ignores the crisis. With 40% unemployment, a collapsing economy, and white farmers facing government land confiscation without compensation, Robert explains how the ruling ANC government uses race politics to distract from three decades of failure. He reveals why American intervention through targeted sanctions may be South Africa's last hope for survival, and calls on Congress to hold accountable those spreading hate speech and destroying the nation's economy.
Charlie Kirk opens the segment by playing audio of an entire stadium in South Africa chanting "kill the Boer" complete with gunshot noises. When Kirk asks about the cultural context that mainstream media claims he's missing, Robert responds bluntly: "You're missing nothing. The left wing, the mainstream media believe we deserve it. We deserve it. That's how sick the left is."
Robert describes the situation as terrifying, noting that the economy is broken and a million South Africans have already left the country. The white population of South Africa has declined from 20% to just 7%.
Economic Devastation After 31 Years of ANC Rule
The statistics Robert shares paint a dire picture of South Africa's economic reality. The unemployment rate stands at 40%, while youth unemployment has reached a staggering 60%. "The ANC government has destroyed the economy, broken all the state-owned enterprises," Robert explains.
After 31 years of failure, the government is using colonialism, whiteness, and apartheid as excuses to reclaim the ability to steal from the country. On the far left, groups like the Economic Freedom Fighters are pushing even more extreme positions. Robert argues these leaders "ought to be jailed and if not jailed, sanctioned."
The West's Failure and America's Opportunity
Robert expresses hope that the Trump administration will take action where Europe and previous American administrations have failed. "We can't fix this country internally. We can't shift the country to free markets, democracy, rule of law. It's falling apart," he states.
He mentions a specific list of 2,348 names of people involved in hate speech, criminality, and anti-Americanism that should be sanctioned. "Britain and Europe have been pathetic, thinking soft diplomacy works. And America has been just as bad until the arrival of Donald Trump," Robert adds.
The Celebration Parallax in Action
Kirk highlights how American left-wing activists distort what's happening in South Africa, playing a clip that demonstrates what he calls "the celebration parallax" - it's not happening, but it's good that it is. In the clip, a commentator first claims there is no confiscation of land, then immediately acknowledges that the government passed a measure allowing them to take land without providing compensation.
Robert explains this contradiction stems from the ideology of resentment and race politics. The "kill the Boer" chants result from the envy and greed of politicians who would rather have the majority black population complain that white people own land than encourage them to make something of their own lives.
The Silent Majority of South Africans
Robert shares a crucial fact that most people don't know: 88% of South Africans are Christians and conservatives who want the same things Americans want - a better life, safety, security, basic services, job opportunities, dignity, and a better future for their children.
"The vast majority of South Africans want that. But it's the ruling party who are the gangsters who want to stay in power," Robert emphasizes. He describes how the government malevolently keeps people poor, homeless, hopeless, unemployed, and uneducated so they can bribe them with social grants.
The numbers are shocking: 28 million South Africans out of a population of 60 million survive on social grants. Meanwhile, the economy is growing at only 1% while the population grows at 2%, creating an unsustainable trajectory.
Congressional Action and the Path Forward
Robert clarifies that it's not the mass of South Africans who are anti-white, but rather the government and two nasty parties on the left, supported by America and the West's leftist media.
When Kirk asks for a call to action, Robert thanks America for taking notice and mentions that Congressman Ronnie Jackson is putting a bill into Congress and the Senate to identify individuals in South Africa creating hate speech, anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, and destroying the economy.
His specific request: "Sanction them. Put them on the Magnitsky list. SDN them. Pick on the individuals, but please try not to pick on the country because our economy is on its knees."
Kirk closes the segment thanking Robert for his courage in speaking out on this critical issue, as mainstream media continues to look the other way while violence and economic destruction accelerate in South Africa.
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