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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk Answers Questions on January 6th, Civil Rights Act, Healthcare Costs, and Animal Agriculture
Charlie Kirk fields questions from students on some of the most contentious issues in American politics. From debating the timeline of January 6th and the complexities of the Civil Rights Act to discussing the fatherlessness crisis, rising healthcare costs, and government agricultural subsidies, Kirk offers conservative perspectives that challenge mainstream narratives. He addresses gay conservatives in the movement, advocates for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s health mission, and explains why he believes factory farming raises concerns, not primarily for animal welfare, but for human health outcomes.
Debating January 6th: Incitement, Timing, and Context
When asked about January 6th, Charlie Kirk was confronted with three questions. The first: did Trump incite violence? Kirk's answer was a clear no. He emphasized that Trump's instructions were to "peacefully and patriotically march."
The questioner then raised the issue of Trump waiting 187 minutes before addressing the protesters. Kirk disputed this characterization, noting it's debated. When pressed on Trump's phrase "fight like hell," Kirk drew a comparison to Kamala Harris, whose current phrase is "when we fight, we win." He argued that "fight" is an open-ended term used across the political spectrum, pointing out that the DNC featured this slogan prominently.
The final question asked whether Kirk acknowledges that many of Trump's staffers, including Donald Trump Jr., were begging him during those three hours to stop the protest or call off the riot. Kirk responded that he doesn't believe that narrative will hold up as more information comes out.
The Civil Rights Act: Necessary Intent, Problematic Execution
A student confronted Kirk about a video where he suggested the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. Kirk clarified his position: he chose not to debate the 12-year-old who asked him about it at the DNC because the child was sweet and he didn't want to engage in that kind of exchange.
Kirk explained that while ending segregation was absolutely necessary, the Civil Rights Act went far beyond that single goal. It created what he believes is the foundation for what we now call "woke" culture. He cited specific examples of how the law is being used today in ways never originally intended.
According to Kirk, Attorney General Merrick Garland recently argued that North Carolina and Georgia cannot have voter ID laws because they violate the Civil Rights Act, claiming such requirements disproportionately impact black Americans. The problem, Kirk argued, is that the Act doesn't just address intentional racial discrimination—it also targets policies based on their disparate impact on certain groups.
Kirk stated he believes one provision of the Civil Rights Act should have been passed—the provision making racial segregation illegal—but the rest of the massive bill has been used to justify outcomes its original supporters never intended, including affirmative action policies.
The Fatherlessness Crisis and the Failure of the Great Society
When asked about underlying socioeconomic disparities between different groups in America, Kirk pointed to what he considers the biggest issue: the lack of fathers. He noted that 75% of black youth grow up without a father, which he believes is the root cause of cycles of violence, poverty, and despair.
Kirk argued that this is not a material problem that can be solved by government spending. The United States has spent tens of trillions of dollars on social welfare programs since the Great Society of the 1960s—including welfare, Housing and Urban Development, and Medicaid. Despite this spending of approximately $25 trillion to eradicate poverty, Kirk contends we have more poverty now than when we started.
The reason, according to Kirk, is that these programs subsidized single motherhood and drove fathers out of homes. He argues this is a values problem, not a resources problem. Without strong fathers to teach discipline and say no, especially to young men, negative outcomes become far more likely.
Kirk cited the Brookings Institution studies showing that children raised by both a mother and a father are far less likely to go to jail, far more likely to graduate from high school, and have higher wages throughout their lives. Every desirable outcome improves dramatically with two-parent households.
A Message to Gay Conservatives
A self-identified gay conservative asked Kirk what he would say to other gay people who need to realize they have a choice politically. Kirk welcomed the student to the conservative movement but made his position clear: he doesn't agree with that lifestyle and doesn't think people should introduce themselves based on their sexual attraction.
Kirk argued that a person is far more interesting than their sexual tendencies and that we should move away from the idea that identity is based on bedroom behavior. He suggested the student should say "I'm a conservative" rather than "I'm a gay conservative," adding that same-sex attraction is just one aspect of being a complete human being.
From his perspective as a Christian and conservative, Kirk stated he doesn't agree with that lifestyle, but emphasized that politics is about addition and multiplication. He acknowledged that the student likely agrees with conservative positions on borders, national strength, and other key issues, and for that reason, welcomed him into the conservative movement.
Healthcare Costs and the Make America Healthy Again Mission
When asked about the best way to lower healthcare costs for families, Kirk outlined a multi-pronged approach. First, he said, we must lower inflation broadly. Second, we need to go after the hospital lobby that is gouging prices significantly.
But Kirk's third point was what he considers most important: addressing the root cause of why healthcare costs are exploding. He pointed to his "Make America Healthy Again" shirt, explaining that we're not addressing the real problems—the food we're feeding ourselves and our children, and the fact that we've become an increasingly sedentary country.
Kirk highlighted what he calls a chronic disease epidemic: half of all American children are chronically obese or overweight. In Japan, that number is only 3%. He argued this isn't because American kids are lazier, but because we are actively poisoning our children with food from Big Agriculture that's sprayed with pesticides and chemicals.
Looking at the ingredient list of a Lunchables box, Kirk said, reveals we're giving kids the worst possible foods for their metabolism and endocrinology. He expressed concern that pediatric Ozempic is now being given to 12 and 13-year-olds, with obesity being treated as a genetic disorder rather than something that can be prevented through better nutrition.
This is why Kirk supports Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joining forces with Donald Trump. Kennedy's life mission is to make America healthier, and Kirk believes we need a real conversation about banning pesticides in our food and removing ultra-processed foods from the FDA recommended food pyramid.
Kirk's personal crusade is to blow up the current food pyramid, which he believes has way too many carbohydrates and not enough healthy fats and protein. He suspects it was created under the influence of Big Agriculture companies. His advice: avoid high fructose corn syrup and processed sugars, and if you can't pronounce an ingredient, resist it. The ideal approach is to ask every day: "Did God make it or did man make it?" and choose more foods that God made.
Animal Rights, Agricultural Subsidies, and Human Primacy
A student wearing a shirt on campus asked Kirk about animal rights, noting that the government subsidizes animal agriculture far more than fruits and vegetables, which inhibits the free market and results in slaughtering lots of animals. The student noted that animals are sentient beings like the unborn.
Kirk first established that animals are not humans and therefore don't have the same rights. Dogs don't get First Amendment protections or the right to own firearms. However, as a Christian, Kirk said we're not allowed to torture or slaughter animals inhumanely—this is established in the Noahic Covenant and repeatedly throughout Scripture.
Kirk acknowledged there's a push to say we should no longer eat meat because it's bad for animals, but he argued we should always do what's best for human beings first. It's good for humans to eat meat rather than the synthetic fake meat Bill Gates wants to produce. At the same time, no living being should be tortured or treated cruelly.
When environmental questions arise, Kirk believes the first consideration should be what's best for the human species, not what's best for trees or snakes. Those things matter, but humans matter more.
The student pressed Kirk on whether animals should have negative rights—the right not to be harmed or killed. Kirk pointed out we already kill dogs in shelters, and we kill dogs that bite their owners or have rabies. When humans get rabies, we treat them; when dogs get rabies, we typically euthanize them. This demonstrates we don't treat dogs and cats at the same moral level because humans have souls, reason, and the ability to make sense of the natural world in ways dogs do not.
When the student revealed this argument leads to opposition to eating meat, Kirk noted that position would be very unpopular at University of Wisconsin-Madison—getting rid of bacon wouldn't go over well.
The student explained that animals killed on factory farms—pigs in gas chambers, male chicks ground up alive for the egg industry—suffer because we view them as not having enough rights to protect their livelihood. Kirk responded that he thinks factory farming has problems, but primarily because of the health impact on humans who eat the meat, not because of concerns about the animals.
When asked about Republican support for billions of dollars in agricultural subsidies, Kirk said he's not a huge fan of subsidies for things that make people fat and unhealthy. While he's not in a voting position, he would advocate against most current agricultural subsidies.
Video Transcript
hello hello uh my name is Dominic Mr
Kirk it's lovely to have this
conversation with you uh in the interest
in the interest of time I have three
questions for you and it has to do with
January 6th okay so the first question
is do you acknowledge or believe that
Trump incited uh violence no no okay do
you acknowledge that Trump waited 187
minutes before he said anything to the
protesters home that's debated yeah okay
because remember the instructions he
gave were to peaceful and patriotically
March sure but he also said to the
protesters uh the speech I think it was
at the oval or I can't remember what it
was specifically but he also said make
your voice heard is what he said right
but he also said to fight like hell
you're going to lose your country right
but I think we both agree time out kamla
Harris's phrase right now is when we
fight we win so fight is a open-ended
term do we agree with that sure yeah
okay KLA Harris litered the DNC had a
big thing that said when we fight we win
so telling somebody to fight we
shouldn't that's a little bit Ticky Tech
right
sure yeah I would say they're different
contextual but just you can't you can't
emphasize that word but third third
question on that you had third question
um do you acknowledge that many of
Trump's staffers uh including Donald
Trump Jr were begging him during those
three hours to stop call off the protest
or stop the riot I don't know that
that's that's going to come out I I
don't think so though okay all right
well thank you thank you very much
appreciate it yes ma'am thank you yeah
thank you yes yes okay do you mind if I
film uh without a doubt all right all
right all right um Camas everywhere so
yeah it's a pleasure to meet you Mr Kirk
would you sign this for me really quick
okay great yes what is this is this a
it's the poster from your booth oh is
that right yeah
yeah go ahead all right um okay sorry I
signed G P's face all right thank you so
much thank you
so great I just have one question for
you um would you mind answering um what
is your thought on the new Minecraft
movie
trailer no idea what you're talking
about thank you that's it thank you next
question you're not even a good troll
next question thank you Mr Kirk thank
you first I'll start with the fact that
I don't agree with affirmative action I
agree it's kind of wrong try to talk
right into the mic um so I have a
question about the underlying issues
that the other girl mentioned the um
socioeconomic statuses of different
people from different groups and I just
wanted to ask you why you think that
issue that underlying issue is still a
problem in America and how we should
solve it biggest issue is lack of
fathers and no one wants to talk about
it so let's take the black community 75%
of black youth will grow up without a
father
around and that we have spent trillions
tens of trillions of dollars on social
welfare program it's not a matter of
stuff it's not a matter of having access
to care from welfare to housing Urban
Development to Medicaid we have we've
spent more money on the Great Society
project than ever it's a matter of
values and if you do not have a strong
father around uh imparting those values
saying no and teaching discipline
especially to young men then uh you're
going to have a major cycle of violence
and poverty and despair and so that's
what makes us diff us as conservatives
different than liberals they think it's
a material problem they think oh just
give more stuff and you're going to
break out of poverty we've tried that
since the 1960s Great Society we spent
$25 trillion try to eradicate poverty
and we have more poverty than before we
started it's because we subsidized
single motherhood and dads aren't around
it's a major problem is there like a
proven correlation to that like
statistical record yeah absolutely I
mean well first of all it's it's rather
common sense right it's rather
self-evident that if you don't have two
parents around but every major study
shows the Brookings institution is the
best that's done this which shows that
if you have a mother and a father around
stable you are far more like far less
likely to go to jail graduate from high
school have a higher wage every possible
um outcome that would be uh considered
to be uh desirable all right thank you
can I lean for a selfie yes we're at of
hats I think yes next question um so I'm
a gay conservative and I just want to
kind of ask you like what do you have to
say for people like me who kind of feel
like I guess it's kind of hard for gay
conservatives because there's not a lot
of us so like what do you have to say to
other gay people who who need to realize
like they do have a choice like yeah
first of all welcome to the conservative
movement but I want to be clear um I
don't agree with your lifestyle and I
don't think you should introduce
yourself just based on your your sexual
attraction I like that's not who you are
I like to be thought of as a person and
for sure I'm not I think you're actually
way more interesting based on your your
sexual Tendencies right so I think we
should get away from this idea that your
identity is based on your bedroom
Behavior yes I you have a you you you
are a complete human being and I'm sure
you treat people well and you're
studying something so I want to get away
with this idea that you're gay anything
right first you should say I'm a
conservative I also have you know same
seex attraction that's fine I just think
that we have gone a long way in the
negative direction of this country where
we act as if the most important part of
your identity is what you do in the
bedroom it doesn't mean that much to me
but if you ask from a perspective as a
Christian and conservative I I I don't
agree with that lifestyle but politics
is about addition and multiplication I
imagine you agree with a lot of what we
talk about right strong borders strong
country and for that you know we we
welcome you into the conservative
movement thank you could could I get a
hat yes you can absolutely yes yes oh
hey Charlie I'm talking yeah um so I saw
on a video the other day so a little kid
came up to you and he said oh I heard
you said that the Civil Rights bill
should and I was just kind of wondering
and then you said no I said it was a
mistake I was just kind of wondering if
you could maybe taken out of context or
maybe no I just didn't want to debate a
12-year-old of DNC honestly was the time
like it was 12 and he was super sweet
and super nice like I'm not going to
debate you like Michael lell ended up
debating him it was a disaster so um
yeah look very clear of course we needed
to end evil segregation the way we did
it was with a wide ranging over-the-top
bill called the Civil Rights Act that
has now created the prerequisite of what
we now call woke and so so for example
the Civil Rights Act is now being used
to shut down people's business if they
have a certain belief on uh one man one
woman marriage saying that that is
discrimination under the Civil Rights
Act so of course my perspective is it
should be illegal to actively
discriminate against somebody based on
their skin color that's not what the
Civil Rights Act only did though that's
one portion of the Civil Rights Act
there's nine or 10 components that
people don't even recognize or realize
that effectively created this massive
anti-racist anti-racist is the term the
left use uses uh monstrosity that is now
being used for things that it was never
intended for including affirmative
action and and what's like can you name
a maybe a few specific cases where
people have cited
like doesn't relate to Great ex great
question so Merrick Garland recently the
the Attorney General of the United
States recently said that North Carolina
and Georgia cannot have voter ID laws so
asking somebody to provide
identification when they vote because
it's a violation of the Civil Rights
Act because they say that it
disproportionately impacts black
Americans so the issue with the Civil
Rights Act is um is not just the not
just the action of being of racially
segregating or of being uh racially
insensitive or to somebody it is the
impact so if it impacts a certain group
therefore it's also then called illegal
under the Civil Rights Act does that
make sense yeah so it most certainly
wasn't wasn't a mistake though well of
course it was a mistake The Way It Was
Written the intent was not though okay
but at the time of course it was not a
mistake yes it was the the way that it
was written what people have used it for
now maybe yes but back then it wasn't a
mistake though because no but you have
to judge the law as it is now right so
it's like saying well the law might have
been good 20 years ago okay but so you
did say oh I'm against discrimination
but I don't think the Civil Rights bill
should have be signed so one provision I
think should have been passed so one
provision but it should you're saying it
should have been like like should have
been Whitted down and it should have
been this massive over ing uh
monstrosity okay okay thank you thank
you appreciate it yes yes sir um so
first off I'm a republican voting for
trump super excited about that but there
is a obviously a huge issue in the
country with health care
prices and I know Trump had the
transparency uh uh executive order but
what do you think is the best way to
lower costs for families yeah I mean
this is huge first of all you just have
to lower inflation more broadly that's
number one number two you have to go
after the hospital Lobby uh where the
hospitals are gouging prices
significantly um number three this is
why I'm wearing the make America Health
the make America healthy shirt um we
have to try to get at the root cause
which is the food that we are feeding
ourselves and our kids we have to we
have to get to the fact that we are an
increasingly sedentary country we aren't
walking enough we're not exercising
enough and health care costs are
exploding because we don't actually
address the root cause 20 or 30 years
prior how do we how do we take those
huge food companies well the first thing
is we should have a real conversation
about banning pesticides in when we're
making our food um Ultra ultr processed
food ultr processed food should not be
on the FDA recommended food pyramid
right this is why I love Bobby Kennedy
coming and joining teams with Donald
Trump is that it's his life mission to
make America healthier we have a chronic
disease epidemic half of all America's
kids are chronically obese or overweight
in Japan it is 3% it's not because our
kids are lazier it's because we are
actively poisoning our kids with food
from Big A that is that we're spraying
with all these pesticides these
chemicals and if you look at the
ingredient list of just a Lunchables box
we we are basically giving kids the
worst thing possible for their
metabolism for their Endocrinology so
that I I'm more interested in a
healthcare conversation that tries to
make sure that a 12-year-old doesn't
have to get on OIC by the time they're
18 years old and just so you know
they're giving pediatric OIC now for 12
and 13 year olds they are they're now
treating obesity as a genetic disorder
that you cannot do anything about and
they just want a 12-year-old to now have
to take a shot every week to try to curb
their obesity which has all other sorts
of very very negative Health
implications so um every day potentially
right and so so how do we solve that
well my personal Crusade we have to blow
up the food pyramid that we have way too
many carbohydrates in our diet not
enough healthy fats and not enough
protein whoever made that was obviously
ly bought by the big a companies and you
should just say I'm not going to have
any more high fructose corn syrup I'm
not going to have any more processed
sugars and if there are ingredience I
can't pronounce I should resist it and
in the ideal we should have a government
that promotes the question did God make
it or did man make it have more foods
every day that God made more so than
what man made and you'll be a lot
healthier because of it so thank you
very much appreciate it thank you can I
get yeah wearing on
campus for a Republican party that
Prides itself on person responsibility
protecting the sentient unborn and free
markets I was curious your thoughts on
animal rights just because the
government subsidizes animal agriculture
far more than fruits and vegetables and
plant foods which inhibits the free
market and ends up slaughtering lots of
animals and animals are also sentient
beings like The Unborn so I was curious
your thoughts on all of that yeah so the
question is first is an animal a
human no okay so does it therefore have
rights I mean we all already have rights
for animals for dogs cats and even for
some but do you get First Amendment
protections for your dog does can your
dog own a firearm right no no of course
not so it's it's not the same thing as a
human I'm not saying now as a Christian
we're also not allowed to torture or to
slaughter that's in the noic Covenant
and repeatedly out the scriptures we
must be Humane in our treatment of
animals but as far I don't know where
you're coming out from this perspective
but some people would say that animals
and humans are on the same moral plane I
don't think that's what you're saying
right um however there is a push though
to say that we should no longer eat meat
because it's bad for the life of animals
we should do what's best for human
beings first and foremost and it's good
for human beings to eat meat it's good
for human beings to be able to eat
animals it's good for human beings to
not just eat Pro like this synthetic
fake meat that Bill Gates wants to make
all day long um and so yeah we where do
I stand on animal rights I mean I don't
think any living being should be
tortured or should be cruy treed um at
the same time we should always do what's
best for human beings and human beings
first so for example when there's an
environmental question the question
should first be what is best for the
human species not what's best for you
know the trees or for the the snake
those things are important but it's more
important about uh for humans does that
answer your question or in part is okay
if I follow yeah I mean in terms of what
rights we give to animals of course we
wouldn't give animals the right to drive
a car vote because it's not relevant to
them but the rights that would be
relevant to them are basic negative
rights the right not to be treated or
killed and we already have that for cats
and dogs and even cruelty laws on farm
animals well well we're allowed to kill
dogs that's not true we have kill
shelters for dogs right we also kill
dogs that bite their owners and dogs
with rabies right so if a human being
gets rabies what do we
do we we treat the human if a dog gets
rabies unless there's like a miraculous
treatment which there usually isn't
right so you're right the negative
rights we do have rights to be able to
for better for worse because we do not
treat dogs and cats as the same moral
level because we as human beings have a
soul we have reason we have the ability
to make sense of the natural world dogs
do not right dogs only have senses they
do not have reason and so for example a
dog cannot tell that it's a dog it now
there's some disagreement about that but
we as human beings can make sense in the
natural world we are the speaking beings
to to say differently but no no animal
should be mistreated but to say that
animals are not allowed to be killed
would be therefore an argument against
meat correct right yeah
andu against right that's very unpopular
probably at you know W Madison to get
rid of bacon right so just guessing yeah
yeah and I mean the reason I'm I'm
bringing this up ultimately is these
animals that we kill on factory farms we
kill them pigs in gas Chambers we ground
up male chicks alive for the egg
industry because only the female hens
lay eggs all these different things is
because we view animals on not having
enough rights to actually protect their
livelihood I'm making an argument that
we shouldn't obviously give animals
rights that aren't relevant to them yeah
if if you were a dictator would you say
we cannot kill pigs no I think that
should be left up to the free market the
reason I'm concerned about it is the
government is spending billions of
dollars yeah I I I think factory farming
has a lot of problems more because of
the health of the human that eats the
meat less than about the animal because
it's just not as good for uh the human
so thank you real quick do you think
ultimately that Republican party that is
pro- free market should be propping up
billions of dollars towards subsidies
for I'm not a huge subsidy fan of things
that make people fat and unhealthy so
would you if you were in a voting
position either if you were an elected
leader would you vote against and should
Republicans vote against that I'm not in
a voting position but yeah I I would
advocate for I advocate against most of
our current agricultural subsidies for
sure okay thank you thank you