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Charlie Kirk Confronts Gender Ideology and the Erosion of Truth at University of Arkansas
Charlie Kirk addresses students at the University of Arkansas about his recent Twitter ban for stating biological facts about Rachel Levine, the collapse of women's sports under trans ideology, and why Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson's refusal to define "woman" represents a dangerous cultural shift. Kirk argues that confusion about basic biological reality is intentional, a tactic to consolidate power and create conditions for tyranny. He challenges students to reject corporate and cultural intimidation, defend truth despite the cost, and recognize that an entire generation has been handed a raw deal through lockdowns, inflation, and policies that make property ownership, marriage, and children increasingly out of reach.
Banned From Twitter for Stating Facts
Charlie Kirk opens by explaining his recent ban from Twitter. He had tweeted factual biographical information about Richard Levine, who spent 54 years as a man, had a wife and family, transitioned in 2011, was appointed by Joe Biden as a four-star admiral, and was named USA Today's Woman of the Year. Twitter accused Kirk of "dead naming"—using someone's birth name—and demanded he delete the tweet and acknowledge hate speech to regain access. Kirk refused, telling students he would be a hypocrite to tell them to hold the line on campus while bending the knee to Big Tech.
Kirk notes he was actually generous in the tweet, even acknowledging one could transition from man to woman—something he doesn't actually believe is biologically possible. Chromosomal structure, he argues, is scientifically unchangeable regardless of medical intervention. Yet even stating verifiable facts triggered a ban, revealing the power of cultural tyranny over truth.
What Is a Woman?
Kirk highlights Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson's refusal to define "woman" because she's "not a biologist." He responds that you don't need a veterinary degree to know a dog or a meteorology degree to recognize a tornado. The question "what is a woman" has become wildly controversial despite 95-97% of Americans agreeing on biological reality—yet that same majority is afraid to speak up.
Kirk reflects on how feminists once argued passionately that women are different from men and shouldn't be oppressed. Now those same voices are silent as biological men dominate women's sports. He points out the absurdity: feminists fought against male oppression but now accept it as long as the man identifies as a woman. Conservatives, Kirk argues, have become the ones defending women because feminists have abandoned the cause.
The Destruction of Women's Sports
Kirk recounts the story of William Thomas, the 462nd ranked male swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania who transitioned to Lia Thomas and became the number one ranked swimmer almost overnight. Despite covering this story for over a year, warning it would be a problem, Thomas was allowed to compete and win the NCAA championship in Atlanta as a biological man competing against women.
Kirk condemns this as cheating—using superior testosterone levels, muscle mass, and bone density gained from male biology to defeat women. He asks where the fathers were who allowed their daughters to be abused in this way. Describing them as "beta males" wearing four masks and hunched over in the stands, Kirk argues the rise of weak, passive fathers has enabled this assault on fairness and biological reality.
The Solution: Compete With Your Chromosomes
Kirk offers a straightforward solution: anyone can transition if they choose, but they must compete in sports according to the chromosomal structure they were born with. William Thomas can identify as Lia Thomas, take hormones, and live as a woman—but must compete against men. Instead, Thomas leapfrogged from 462nd place to first by competing against women, which Kirk calls line-cutting and cheating.
He notes that even sororities on college campuses are afraid to speak out on issues fundamental to their very existence—the distinction between men and women. Meanwhile, those same students will march in the streets and post black squares on Instagram for other causes, but retreat when asked to defend the most basic biological and societal structures.
Tyranny Through Confusion
Kirk argues that confusion and chaos are deliberate tactics that always lead to tyranny. When people are confused about gender norms, historical truth, and basic reality, they become easier to control and more likely to accept authoritarianism. This is exactly what happened in the French Revolution and Weimar Republic—widespread confusion created conditions for strongman rule.
He warns that seemingly silly culture war disputes about gender are actually critically important. If society cannot correctly identify what a man or woman is, it will fail at border security, education, and whether people should have children. Getting the fundamental building blocks of civilization right is essential to preserving freedom.
Cultural and Corporate Tyranny
Kirk explains that tyranny isn't just governmental—it's cultural and corporate. A small group of people ruling many without their permission defines tyranny, whether that's government, Big Tech, or major corporations. Twitter didn't need government to ban him; the company acted on its own. Similarly, young people applying for jobs face HR departments demanding pronoun declarations—a warning shot that says "sit down and shut up if you want a paycheck."
Fortune 100 companies like Capital Street Partners have announced they won't hire white people for years without board approval, prioritizing only people of color. Kirk asks how society reached this point and traces it back to the false virtue of tolerance that conservatives embraced for too long, trying to be liked rather than standing firm on principle.
A Generation Handed a Raw Deal
Kirk defends Millennials and Gen Z, arguing they've been lied to and manipulated more than any recent generation. They were told to get good test scores, take AP courses, borrow money for college, study things that don't matter, and find jobs that don't exist. They followed every rule, moved to urban areas with debt burdens, and rent property instead of owning it—resulting in the lowest property ownership rate in American history.
Then, just as they reached the age where income and wealth typically surge, the country locked down for two years over a virus that didn't threaten them. They complied—working from home, wearing masks, missing promotions and job advancement. Society sacrificed the wellbeing of the young to protect the old in a way no recent society has done.
The result: everything now costs twice as much. Gas, property, food—all have skyrocketed due to inflation from $6 trillion in newly created money. This generation is doing three things at the lowest rates in history: owning property, getting married, and having children. These are the three activities that create good, conservative citizens, and they're disappearing.
The College Scam and the Death of Muscular Work
Kirk blames the college cartel for destroying muscular work in America. High school guidance counselors relentlessly ask "where are you going to college?" never suggesting trades like welding. This creates a caste system where people who keep the economy running—truckers, farmers, police, military—are looked down upon, while the "Zoom class" works from laptops and imposes mandates on the working class.
During lockdowns, vaccine and mask mandates disproportionately affected people on assembly lines making sure families had food, while laptop workers rolled out of bed at 8:55 AM unbothered. Kirk argues this caste system, combined with 18 months of penalty-box treatment for young people, has created the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted generation in history.
The Coming Socialist Wave
Kirk warns that if conservatives do nothing, a generation that owns nothing, isn't married, and has no children represents a combustible engine for genuine socialist revolution. When two people own 40% more than the bottom quadrant, and young people are locked out of the system, someone will eventually offer a "year of jubilee"—confiscating billionaire wealth and redistributing it to locked-down, depressed young people.
Kirk admits that argument will be hard to refute if the current trajectory continues. The disappearing middle class leaves only a ruling elite in the top 2% working for major corporations, and a managed poor receiving government checks and stimulus in government housing. Small business and entrepreneurship vanish, creating a deeply depressing and unfree society.
A National Recovery Program
Kirk calls for an intergenerational apology and a national recovery program prioritizing Gen Z and Millennials. The lockdowns and $6 trillion in new money created immoral circumstances that put this generation hopelessly behind before they could even vote at 18. He's not advocating redistribution, but policies that excite young people again beyond the gloom of wokism and white fragility.
His prescription: create conservatives by helping people own property, get married, and have lots of children. That will eliminate liberalism and make America recognizable again. Kirk suggests making vaccine status fall under HIPAA as a protected class, so employers over a certain size cannot require vaccines or terminate employees for refusing experimental injections that don't prevent infection or hospitalization—and never allowing discussion of treatments like azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, or vitamin D.
Policy Solutions: Tax Incentives for Families
Kirk proposes that conservatives entertain tax packages and incentives for people to have children, since the number one reason people don't have kids is economic. When the birth rate plummets by 600,000 babies in one year, that creates nihilistic people and threatens societal sustainability. While government often screws things up, Kirk argues making it easier for working families who pay taxes to have children should matter more than generic tax cuts.
He notes that sustaining a family of four now requires 53 weeks of labor—more than exists in a year—forcing debt or dual incomes. In 1985, it took only 36 weeks. Inflation, hyper-corporatization, offshoring manufacturing, and destroying the blue-collar base have made family formation prohibitively expensive. Young families get maybe an $800 tax rebate while illegal immigrants receive checks, which Kirk calls morally backwards.
Walmart and De-Industrialization
In a bold move, Kirk criticizes Walmart, the biggest employer in Arkansas. He argues Walmart was central to the de-industrialization of America's core, pushing trade deals that sent manufacturing overseas, brought back cheap goods, and sold them to devastated communities. The result: 11 million lost manufacturing jobs, hollowed-out communities, men without direction, collapsed tax bases, and in return, cheap plastic from Wuhan and opioids. Kirk calls this a bad deal, regardless of stock prices, arguing the obligation is to American citizens first, not corporate profits.
Disney, Florida, and the Purpose of Education
Kirk addresses Disney's opposition to Florida's Parental Rights Bill, which Disney and media outlets gaslighted as extreme when it's actually vanilla and should have received unanimous support. Instead, Disney announced that by year's end, half their characters will be LGBTQ, with more children exposed to gay kissing. A leaked internal Zoom call revealed Disney's "not so secret gay agenda."
Kirk asks: what is the purpose of education? It's not giving teachers free speech to say whatever they want to five-year-olds. Teachers are there to lead students toward what is good, true, and beautiful—to create good citizens and capture imaginations so they can study the Western canon and become fully developed human beings. Education means "to lead forth" in Latin. Children's opinions on curriculum are irrelevant; what matters is what adults know is best for developing complete humans who understand they are one part in an unfolding story of a God who made and loves them.
The Unchanging Standard
Kirk argues that absent belief in a transcendent, unchanging higher power—whether the Buddhist, Hindu, or Christian God—right and wrong become mere opinion. Humanists and atheists eventually admit to believing in a standard above themselves, revealing they do believe in hierarchy and something transcendent. This is tough work that must be taught from a young age, but culture now works against it. Even homeschooling families face the challenge of what children watch when not being homeschooled, whether to give them smartphones, and how to counteract a culture that no longer reinforces what is good, true, and beautiful.
The Call to Reject Tyranny
Kirk closes by encouraging anyone feeling they live under tyranny to recognize it's normal and okay—but pushing back is never wrong. It may not be comfortable or easy, but long-term rewards come from resisting, especially at a young age. If you must watch your language, word choice, associations, and social media as if someone is always watching, ready to derail your life for saying something wrong, you are not free. Do something about it. That's what Turning Point USA students do daily—choosing personal freedom and working to restore a country where that's possible.
Live Q&A: Confronting Gender Ideology
During the Q&A, Kirk fields questions about corporate vaccine mandates, wealth inequality solutions, and takes on a feminist student who supports trans women in women's spaces and sports. When asked what a woman is, she responds "somebody who identifies as a woman" with gender dysphoria as a medical condition. Kirk presses: can he become a woman? Only if he has gender dysphoria. He jokes he might have it; she wishes him well in his transition.
Kirk then asks if Lia Thomas, biologically stronger with more testosterone and bone density, competing against and beating women is fair. She says yes. He points out this is the textbook definition of cheating—someone stronger using power against the weak. She declines to engage further. Kirk asks if chromosomes determine females; she agrees but insists sex and gender are different. He concludes by noting the irony: she's a feminist who will now live under the tyranny of men who think they're women.
Another student asks about trans athletes who don't reach the top. Kirk responds they're still beating other women and taking someone's spot. When told "they are women," Kirk asks why society should adopt a definition based on feelings and mental conditions that disenfranchises chromosomal women. The student argues it's about respect and making people with the condition comfortable. Kirk counters that giving people what they want isn't always right—just as society doesn't give liposuction to people with anorexia who desperately want it, because it would kill them.
Video Transcript
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sponsored by turning point usa you don't want to miss it thank you so much for joining us tonight it is government's role to protect our rights against tyranny government does not give you rights government is not going to tell you how many people you get to have over for thanksgiving or christmas they work for us the united states constitution starts with we the people they work for us everybody now welcoming to the stage charlie kirk [Music] [Applause] all right [Music] i'll give you that one there you go okay now we're working everybody hey um great to be here we're kicking off our tour again we're gonna have a lot of fun um i love arkansas i've come here a couple times in my life and uh my cousins are here it's great to see them see we all fled chicago together uh there's a lot of that going around anyone else flee chicago um yeah we're all in this together um and so it's a great place to be um we now live in arizona and traveling the country uh bringing the good message of freedom and liberty i just want to thank our amazing turning point usa students they've done such an amazing job promoting this event they've done such a great job and it's it's really important what they're doing being outspoken conservatives on high school and college campuses it's it's the most important thing that's happening our country so i'm banned from twitter everybody um if you haven't heard so we're gonna walk through that i actually haven't spoken very much about it publicly i did a podcast or two on it um and it's on a very interesting thing so the way twitter works um if you don't know if you violate one of their kind of guidelines they give you an opportunity to delete the tweet basically okay i you know engaged in hate speech you can get your twitter account back and so we logged on to our twitter account we're like wait why are why don't we have access to our twitter account anymore so i tweeted this out and i want to just anyone to tell me if there's anything inaccurate about this tweet um richard levine spent 54 years of his life as a man he had a wife and a family he transitioned to being a woman in 2011 joe biden then appointed levine to be a four-star admiral and is now usa today has named rachel levine as woman of the year true where are the feminists right perfectly factual um but now i engaged in something called dead naming are you familiar with this phenomenon no i had to learn it alongside uh everyone else including our millions of followers so dead naming is when you use the name that used to exist of someone who's trans um and super like politically incorrect i guess um you're like not even allowed to mention the birth name anymore it's now called dead naming so i guess you can't call like muhammad ali cassius clay anymore um or anyone who's ever changed their name uh ever and so because of this twitter basically says okay you're no longer allowed to have access to your account you have to acknowledge and bend the knee and tell the rest of the world that you engaged in hate speech and there's like big red button that says you can press delete and look it's very tempting you know we do we used to do a lot on twitter and i thought to myself you know what every single you know semester i'm traveling i'm talking to college kids telling them to hold the line that it's worth the cost you know that you might lose friends i'm like what a hypocrite i would be if i just like pressed that red button and told twitter like you know i did something wrong meanwhile keep fighting on campus everybody and see you later you know what no actually no like twitter have a nice life if you want to give me my account back without me pressing that stupid red button then fine and it kind of goes to this deeper question by the way if you read my tweet i think i was actually like overly generous quite honestly i admitted that one can transition from a man to a woman which i don't believe actually i think you could think you can but i think your chromosomal structure is unchangeable scientifically that's totally true regardless of how much scientific intervention that you put for it and so but you could think whatever you want to think and still twitter's like nope you dead named that person again not anything i was even like trying to do or was aware of just kind of giving a factual biography of the entire set of circumstances which kind of leads to a question i want us all to ponder over tonight and think deeply about and i love all of your opinions which is the most important question that has really been confusing people including the top levels of our government which is what is a woman right and so i i know this is so hard for some of us to grasp um i know i'm not a biologist so i'm not really um well versed to be able to answer these questions um of course for those of you that i don't know watch the oscars and not uh which is funny enough we'll get into that um so but don't watch anything that happens around you uh katangi brown jackson woman that wants to i can think she's a woman um who am i to say i don't know she won't tell us um because she doesn't know what a woman is um trying to be on the u.s supreme court was asked a question by marsha blackburn very simple question what can you define what a woman is and she responded like with this kind of smug arrogance no i i can't i'm not a biologist so look i'm not a veterinarian i know a dog when i see one i'm not a meteorologist i know that there was a tornado yesterday at 4 30 in the morning right not exactly something i didn't have like a degree in biology to understand what a woman is and it kind of got thinking as she was like so smug and she responded which is this has now become a wildly controversial thing in america it's that if you you're not even able to say you know this is a woman and this is a man and what's so amazing about this is that 95 to 97 percent of the country agrees in biological reality and yet 95 to 97 of the country is afraid to talk about this issue and so it's like this totally out of whack balance right where regardless of your politics regardless of your view i think we could all agree that there are differences between men and women like men can't become pregnant women can like very basic things apple by the way has a pregnant man emoji you guys can check it out on your phone i don't know why you would it's kind of weird but anyway you can if you want and so we're at this moment where a supreme court justice is like what you're asking me to kind of define what a woman is and it's so interesting like when i grew up and all the liberals were screaming at me in like high school and they were mostly feminists like all they cared about was like women's rights like it was the number one thing and i look back i kind of agree with like 90 of what they used to say which is we women are so different than men we don't want to be oppressed by you like okay i think that's probably overblown but at least you agree that there's differences right at least like this you know what i'm the type of feminist i'm talking about and so now i open up usa today on the plane yesterday on the way here and they have the woman of the year kind of on display and there is levine like right in the middle of it as the woman of the year and yeah it is disgusting that's right we should be unafraid to say that by the way like this is not normal this is not like the new progressive thing it's awful and should be rejected and repudiated and anyone who believes it shouldn't be taken seriously honestly like they should be put in the category of flat earthers i mean that i mean it's it's not it's not something you should take it seriously like well we need to really think deeply about a woman actually now i could see women in this audience and see men in this audience and it's that simple and but no you're not a biologist you don't have a phd to be able to interpret it maybe that's the problem isn't it maybe the problem is we've been giving all this power to people with phds and medical degrees and we become less free less healthy sicker more depressed more addicted to alcohol and drugs in the last two years the more power we give to these experts that are biologists and scientists like fauci and all these people that run this country maybe they know very little and the everyday plumber electrician police officer and welder have far more wisdom than some biologists in harvard that's supposed to tell us how to run our life so what's so again i don't like desire to talk about this issue like what is a man what is a woman um but this issue's been forced and we're gonna win it's that simple okay and we it's it's kind of one of the most important thing you can't get this right you're probably not gonna be able to you know decide whether or not you should have border security or how you should educate your kids or whether you should have kids you probably got to get the fundamental you know building blocks of society right and so this all happened simultaneously the twitter ban levine you know being called uh woman of the year and then just kind of the death of female ncaa sports that most people didn't even know what happened it happened in real time so i have to always kind of re-educate um not re-educate just kind of reiterate it for the audience of what happened because it's amazing how the media censored this entire story so enter william thomas i'm not allowed to say that because dead naming whatever william thomas whatever all these rules that's how you know you're living in tyranny by the way when you can't remember the rules you have to live under i can't even remember them all oh i'm not allowed to say that are we streaming on youtube i i can't even remember all of it it's like well i might get stripped i don't know we'll have fun maybe i'll lose my twitter and youtube in a week um i think we are streaming right now so whatever actually it's not against youtube's uh rules to dead name anyway whatever so um can you remember all of them i can't get it right so william thomas okay seems like a nice enough person was the 462nd best swimmer at university of pennsylvania in the country uh was a man born a man xy chromosomes was trying to compete in swimming wasn't really getting anywhere one day uh thomas wakes up and changes the name to leah thomas and decides that want to keep swimming so goes from the 462nd best swimmer to the best swimmer almost overnight uh and this happened really slowly by the way this wasn't like an overnight thing if you were watching this carefully like we were we were covering this for like a year and a half they were like hey this is going to be a problem like hey this is going to be a problem and they're like oh no it's not like they're gonna let it they're not gonna let thomas you know compete at the top level the championship there you go at the ncaa championship in atlanta two weeks ago um thomas was competing and won the ncaa championship as a biological man and again that kind of goes back to that whole feminist critique right which is we're so upset that because we're being oppressed by men and i say so the feminists are silent because they're now okay because they're oppressed by men even though they think they're women it's like isn't that against the entire argument that i was told my entire life so now we have conservatives trying to stand up for women because the feminists no longer think that women are necessary to be defended like if you're confused good because i think it's part of the point quite honestly i can't keep the rules straight like who's on what team like i've and i'm sure there's some feminists that are pretty upset about this but they're being drowned out and they're being they're not being taken seriously and by the way i'm not necessarily against like first wave feminism or parts of second wave feminism which is like we have biological differences we might have different needs and wants and concerns like i think that's all really healthy stuff i don't think we should reject that i think it goes way too far and we saw this in the kavanaugh hearing is where it gets into the hatred of men which um is a whole separate conversation but it's amazing to see the american left in the last couple years you saw it in the kavanaugh hearings right so kavanaugh you had this incredibly enthusiastic like quasi-militant base of a major political party that was like okay this guy drank beer when he was 16 years old and he might be a gang rapist and like it was like crazy right no substantial evidence at all behind it they almost derailed the entire confirmation of brett kavanaugh and then a couple years later they put up their own nominee who's like yeah i don't know what a woman is and it's like that that's a huge change by the way in just a short period of time and i just want to kind of take pause i think we have to kind of take a cultural time out as a country by the way and say how did that happen so quickly like how did we go from like unquestionably protecting women's sports to now having men winning ncaa championships and i have a couple theories behind this and i i think it's a little bit um contrarian which you know you can agree or disagree with which is i blame men for a lot of this be perfectly honest i where were the fathers that allowed this thomas character to go abuse their daughters when they were and that yes that is abuse by the way 100 it's not abuse in the physical setting but you're using your higher levels of testosterone your increased bone density to be able to win that's cheating we don't like cheating and it's all about stuff well i want a medal it's about my truth actually it's not about your truth it's not like and by the way here's the easy starts people say charlie what's your solution it's very simple like you could go transition just compete with the chromosomal structure you were born with go continue to be the 462nd best swimmer against men you can go wear a bonnet you could do whatever you want but we're not going to allow you to go compete against other women we'll go respect your transition you could take the drugs you could do the whole thing compete against the chromosomes you were born with no but instead you could leap frog from 460 second to the first and it is cheating and it's cutting in line we don't like cheaters as society in fact you know any three or four year old you know kind of into their own intuition will say that's not fair and it isn't fair and so it really is something worth pondering which is how do we allow this to happen and all this kind of complete the point is that i mean men in a lot of different ways are supposed to be the ones that pick the tough fights to defend people that can't defend themselves i know that's super politically incorrect to say but it's true okay it's that men go to war to go do things that you don't want to always see happen so you could remain free that's the way things have worked for thousands of years and so when there is an issue that arises and i was watching these videos of the ncaa championship and they showed the fathers and they're wearing like four masks and like they're like hunched over and like they don't know i'm like that's why this is happening it's like the rise of the beta male that's exactly why this has happened and it's not it's like i mean it you should laugh at it because it's you know intended to be somewhat of a joke but it's actually not a joke because it's these like upper middle class northeastern corridor fathers that always thought that like i'm gonna raise my daughter to feel like she's gonna be boss babe she can rule the world she could do whatever she wants to do she can have it all right like that's kind of like the northeast you but you're like born in boston you grow up in the philadelphia corridor like that's what you tell your daughter like you could seize dragons you could do it all like don't get married immediately men are just going to bring you down and then like next thing you know at the ncaa championship a man is beating them and the man is like i don't i don't know what to do i mean i'm not going to like stand up for my daughter and it really does beg the question which is what where is society going to draw the line we don't know the question we don't know the answer to that question yet we certainly don't draw the line on bathrooms right most states across the country because walt's in whatever bathroom you want um i don't think arkansas has passed that i hope not um you have you passed it in in law well i don't know well oh and target only yeah okay has walmart passed that yet oh no okay good yeah that's good um so look it's this is something i want to just kind of um encourage you if you're if you feel like you're afraid to talk about these topics and that you're really intimidated because it comes to academic that is a propaganda technique okay so there's this there's this effort that's that's been launched in the country to use an argument from authority we all know argument from authority right it's a logical fallacy like i have a doctorate in a certain field therefore i'm able to comment on things that you aren't able to comment on and of course we know that's not true that's not a way to argue you just can't say i have a bunch of degrees therefore the laws of physics don't actually apply like you have to prove it you have to make an argument behind it and so but they want you to be intimidated and they're really good at it by the way they're phenomenal at actually making you feel intimidated and afraid and you know the alphabet mafia as i call them the people that kind of run this entire cartel they're nasty i get it like they will fire you from your job if you dare speak out against this right and what so anyone in sororities by the way it's kind of a big thing in the south sororities anyone sororities or fraternities yes a good amount of people um i don't know around here but in other states it's like the sororities are afraid to talk and speak out on the very issues that are pretty fundamental to like the chartering documents what a sorority and fraternity is it's like men women they're like well i don't know i we we might want to not you know upset the apple cart on this and it's so interesting it's like when you want to all of a sudden like put your fist up to say that america's a super race this country it's like everyone's willing to break glass right like i'll go get arrested i'll go protest till 2 a.m like whatever it takes to go prove america's not racist like i'm gonna go march in the streets black square on instagram everybody and then get me the one with the mask and the vaccine and then the ukraine one and whatever's next i'm in i'm in line for it whatever it is i'm already in support of the next hysteria okay like whatever sure but it's like the one thing that we're asking you to break glass for like societal civilizational like structure people like back away and it really goes to show the power of the cultural machine and that's part of why we're here tonight by the way so that you know that you're actually not alone that there's hundreds if not thousands of other young people that actually share your views and your values that whatever the kind of current tyranny of the moment isn't isn't isn't unquestionable and so that's the other thing i want to mention is that you know we talk i hate tyranny you should hate tyranny i hate when a few people rule a lot of people without their permission that's basically what tyranny is right small group of people ruling a lot of people without their permission we we love the constitution one of the reasons we love the constitution is because it has permission built into the constitution consent to the government very basic component of the constitution you can't do something dramatic or bold without our permission we will check and balance to make sure that it doesn't happen and so but there's other forms of tyranny though it's not just government and that's the one thing that i always try to tell conservatives is that there's cultural tyranny and there's corporate tyranny that is sometimes actually more powerful against you than just the government you see like the government didn't ban me from twitter right i mean if the government banned me from twitter i would actually be able to sue them and you know say that it's a first man right it's a private company do whatever you want and i know a lot of you that are looking now to go to apply for jobs you know and you're going to graduate college soon and you're probably afraid and i get it i actually do i'm not telling you not to be afraid i'm telling you it's probably not it's probably going to be a happier and freer person if you dismiss that fear we could talk about that but it's a legitimate thing right you went into debt you know to go study whatever they told you to go study hopefully you benefited from it probably not but like whatever that's that's college happy to get into that um most most by the way most young people believe that college is a waste of time that's a separate conversation for a different time more of an indictment of uh the college cartel than anything else and but then you're nervous right you want to get a job you want to be able to work for a good company and the next thing you know you go look up you know 10 places you want to go to apply or even worse you look up places where you're going to go get internships right which is kind of a prerequisite and all of a sudden those who have summer internships you go work for any of these companies like whoa like just like the hr training zoom call it's like i have to put my pronouns to like go work at this investment bank and then all of a sudden you know what that is that's a warning shot for you without them ever putting it in writing they're trying to tell you they're like hey conservative over there you want to get a paycheck you want to have a career in this company you better sit down and shut up because we're in charge and it's really i get it it's intimidating now there's ways to work through that i actually think that's a really unhappy way to live to live under the tyranny of other people just for a paycheck but for some people i get it you went into debt you want to move your family up the socio-economic ladder but that's a form of tyranny it's immoral and there's other ways to fight it start your own business entrepreneurship all this sort of stuff but that's not actually coming from the government and that's where we need as conservatives need to broaden our kind of indictment of what is really challenging young people in particular what are the things that that you're coming up against and it's not just you're worried about the fbi or the department of justice which is you know obviously super corrupt and comes after people for political purposes but you're like actually i'm worried that my employer is gonna have something they're gonna dig up something i said on my social media eight years ago take it out of context put it as a referral to the hr manager and my career is going to get obliterated and those four years university of arkansas will be for nothing that's what keeps me up at night so now i want to improve my social credit score system by posting the ukrainian flag posting the black square flag and posting you know showing that i got the four boosters and i'm you know i'm on the waiting list for the fifth or whatever it is that you know boosts your social credit score that's so maoist like it's insanely totalitarian and i i i know that there's some exceptions to this but generally when you go work for a major corporation i mean i don't want to speak for the major corporations here in arkansas you guys could fill in whether or not they're you know enlightened or woke or whatever i don't know but generally most across the country the fortune 100 companies the fortune 25 companies when you graduates go work for their it's like compliance and there's another thousand people that want your job and so how did we get here how do we get to a place where capital street partners one of the largest investment banks in the country are saying that you know we're not going to hire white people for the next couple years without full unanimous permission of the board we're only going to hire people of color how do we get to that place right and it's it kind of goes to this this false um this false virtue of tolerance that i i want to explore with you guys which is for far too long like we always sought to be the people that were liked and we're nice and that's a good thing to want obviously no one wants to be hated but when they start to take over every major corporation and they take over every place that you're going to actually get value from then all of a sudden you're like well i wish people would have been a little disagreeable before i could go example after example after example and so what do you do about it we can get to that in q a if you guys if you guys want so i want to speak now just a little bit about kind of the things facing students and young people and then we could do some questions and we'll have some fun um so i get a lot of trouble when i say this but adults don't heckle me when i say this uh but i think just let me finish the argument the students are going to be enthusiastic about it when i say this um which is that this generation um has gotten a real world a raw deal uh and this generation i think has been lied to and manipulated more so than any other generation in recent history and i'm going to tell you why exactly i'm not saying that they that they shouldn't work harder in all this people i just get the craziest emails charlie all millennials are lazy you know what no some millennials are lazier than other generations but most millennials they want to get their act together and they've been there they've been they're the generation of rule followers now you guys are mostly generation z is that right gen z ish so let me tell you kind of this how this generation was raised and where all of a sudden things went wrong they did everything they were told to do for a decade okay go get good act scores go get good sat scores go take the ap courses go borrow a bunch of money to go to a school you know go to that school keep showing up to it so they borrow money they don't have to study things that don't matter to go find jobs that don't exist then they go move into urban metropolitan areas filled with a debt burden to go rent property and not own property we as conservatives should be advocates for owning things it creates better citizens and better people it is the least it is the lowest property ownership of any generation in american history look we should support increasing property ownership especially with acreage all around it creates conservatives like immediately right when you have to like go manage something that isn't just like pushing a button an elevator that's what we should support and so but then they follow the rules they follow the rules and then what next hit at the top at the place where millennials in gen z are the most likely to have the surge of their income going up or their wealth increasing we decide to lock down our country for two years because of a virus that they were not at threat from and so they followed the rules okay i'm going to stay at home 15 days to slow the spread you got it well we're now on day like 790 of 15 days to slow the spread okay i'm going to follow the rules i'm going to wear the mask at all times i'm going to work from home work remote i'm going to do what i'm told to do where promotions and job advancements a lot harder when you're working at home it just is it's like a lot of these companies went through a stagnation and went through a short spurs but you saw this incredible moment where we as a society decided to forsake the well-being of the young to try to protect the old no society has done that in recent memory at all and the argument was like well young people could spread it to older people have the young people stop seeing them until there's a solution that could actually be put forward so what ended up happening well everything now costs twice as much everything from gas to property and so this generation it's so funny i get people that reach out they say oh this generation needs to just go buy property and land really with what money exactly like with the money they're not earning because they store they studied north african lesbian poetry at some local college or something or with the debt burden that say you know that they went into debt to go do that like what money are they supposed to do a down payment on a home now that everything is more expensive everything it costs like 900 to get from little rock now to here in the car or whatever it is right i'm sure you guys are paying like 150 bucks to pay up you know phil you fill your your tank of gas and so what i'm getting at i'm not saying that young people can't work harder and make better decisions all those things are true i get that but the three things that create good citizens and i would say conservative citizens are happening at the lowest rates ever in the country's history three things okay owning property getting married and having children so this generation is doing those three things less than any other generation in history adults should say time out why is that the case is it all because they're a bunch of rebellious punks no there's plenty of them they're smart alex whatever okay fine cultural stuff disney's a problem social media all this i get all of it i'll agree with all that that is not why this generation has more people that are unmarried in their 30s than are married first time ever we've never seen anything quite like it and so i would argue that one of the main reasons is obviously the cartel the colleges and the whole scam that is embedded in that and how we have just totally condescendingly destroyed muscular work in this country right where we act as that the people who work at their hands are stupid when in reality they're necessary and wise and the people that are stupid are the people that say i can't define what a woman is and but no but you all know this when you're in high school you get this like relentless train of questioning like where are you going to college where are you going to college where are you going to college why are you going to college where are you going to college where are you going to college and never should be like you know what i might not go to college i'm gonna go become a welder like oh and basically when you're 18 it makes a really big impact like oh you're gonna be lower on the cast system like you're gonna be one of those people you're gonna be like a sweaty person and so basically and you guys all know it's true like you know high school guidance counselors have done more damage to destroying muscular work in this country than any other community of people that i could think of and so it creates this this cast system where the people who keep the economy alive are the muscular class the ones that drive the trucks they're the ones that make sure our stores continue to have food on them they're the ones that plant and grow the food they're the ones that protect our streets when there's civil unrest they're the ones that go fight the wars that keep us safe they're the ones that police our border but what happened is during the lockdowns is the zoom and the skype class decided that everyone just can kind of work from a laptop we're just going to open up our laptop what's so interesting is the mandates that obviously we're you know here to hopefully we'll say will never happen again they disproportionately affected the people that were actually keeping the country afloat it's like yeah if you're able to kind of roll out of bed at 8 55 and open up your computer and just go to work the same then like vaccine mandates and mask mandates don't irritate you the same as someone that has to work on an assembly line all day long to make sure that your family has food to eat that night and it's this cast system that was built in and so then young people were basically put in a penalty box you graduate early recent graduates or current colleges a penalty box for 18 months 18 months and it's not like the country was the same when you left it so for 18 months nothing was normal so we have the most suicidal most depressed most alcohol addicted most drug addicted generation in history and i hear from you know people that are baby boomer plus like oh they seem to work harder and get their act together it's like wait a second it's like do you think there might be anything with public policy that might have actually handed them something where they're in a less free country the lockdowns were a massive government intervention that did nothing but made young people poorer and made rich people richer it was an upside down wealth distribution scheme to make students and recent college graduates less likely to own property get married and have children and so one of the things i try to implore with conservatives running for office and this is kind of one of the takeaways is that we should talk about making those three things easier you all of a sudden want young people to be less depressed have them start owning land finding a partner of meaning and have children those three things are like the easy things we should be talking about there's other things in particular you know beyond that having a job would be nice you know because i would make the other things possible um but so but instead i'm afraid that conservatives are kind of missing this opportunity and there's this opportunity and this is one of the reasons why bernie sanders resonates so well with younger people and this is something that a lot of i think adults are missing and you guys would resonate it's not just that that students want free stuff there's there's plenty people that do but instead they look at bernie sanders and they say i actually look at him and he's gonna give me freedom i know this is gonna sound silly but it's like he's gonna forgive my student loans because i was lied to and i didn't i went to college and i know that it was wrong for me and he's going to wipe that out because when i was 18 when i was most vulnerable i was told i had to go to some stupid school to go get a degree when in reality it wasn't necessary and bernie sanders is going to wipe me clean of that debt it's like he's going to break my shackles now of course that is not you know the argument that i would make but that is the way that a lot of people process it so what do you do about it well if we do nothing and i'm not saying i have all the answers let me tell you what's going to happen if we do nothing okay you're going to get some really radical politicians that are going to take advantage of this i'm talking about really radical that'll make aoc look like a moderate no no think about it you have a generation to own anything that isn't married to people and has no kids you're talking about like a combustible engine that's waiting to take off for a legitimate socialist revolution in this country where you have two people that own 40 more than 40 of the bottom quadrant people like how do we stop socialism get young people to start owning stuff quickly like now you they better be bought into this society like quickly the clock is ticking because the the the longer that window goes a generation of renters a generation of just people staying at their screens all day long there will be a moment where the left actually has someone that is somewhat articulate and not totally insane and they put them up and it's like you know what i think it's time for a year of jubilee which was a commandment by the way in the old testament i think we need to take all the money from the billionaires and give it back to young people who are locked down who are more suicidal more alcohol addicted more drug addicted that's going to be a hard argument for me to kind of refute i don't believe it i think it's bad for society mass wealth confiscation is immoral but that tsunami will be really hard to stop and it'll make america less free it'll make the government more powerful so how do we stop it we need to make sure all of you are bought into the system this is one of the things that has always made america so difficult to have a socialist revolution is the middle class the middle class is completely disappearing they want a class that if you're lucky enough to make it you work for a major corporation or a major tech company and you're kind of in that ruling elite the top two percent of the country or you're just kind of in this managed poor you get the government checks you get the stimulus checks you really don't get much wealthier every single year you kind of live in your government appropriated housing unit super depressing by the way like incredibly depressing and small business entrepreneurship basically disappears so that kind of putting all that together um my challenge to adults is that there needs to be an intergenerational apology and people don't like hearing that they don't the lockdowns have created and the la and the fiscal policy that went alongside of it by the way the six trillion dollars of new money that was created i believe have created a set of circumstances that are making this generation so far behind the eight ball before they can even vote when they're 18 years old that this is a deal that is immoral from the very start so i'm not saying redistribution but there needs to be a national recovery program a program that prioritizes young people generation z and millennials in particular and gets them excited about something again not just this kind of constant gloom of like wokism and am i like violating the tenets of white fragility or whatever it is that people talk about nowadays super depressing it's like you know what actually this is an amazing country and you should believe in it again and i want you to believe in it and so you want to create conservatives create people that own stuff that are married and that have lots of children that will get the liberalism out of it like immediately and will make your country much more recognizable okay okay so what do i want to talk about here okay so yeah let me just kind of mention this which is if you're confused about what's happening in the country it's intentional i mentioned this confusion and chaos always ended in tyrant so they're creating confusion because then it's easier to consolidate power this is exactly what happened in the french revolution rub spear you guys can study it closely napoleon took advantage of it people desire a strong man when things start to fall apart so they want you to be confused about gender norms they won't be confused about historical norms they want to be confused about the country in general because they're going to use it as a means to the end to try to get towards some sort of authoritarianism and tyranny this is exactly why these kind of seemingly silly kind of culture war disputes are super important they're not silly right being able to define what a man is what a woman is is because you know we we should reject tyrion all tyranny in all of its forms but when people are owning nothing and they're in this kind of place of widespread confusion they're going to be more likely to want to latch onto someone that's going to come in and say you know what i'm going to nationalize things i'm going to get rid of inflation all this it creates the conditions for that kind of person to come into place right and that's the way that you kind of view of all this finally i want to ask what is the purpose of education a lot of you guys are in edu you know in education right now i've made my thoughts somewhat clear about college happy to go into that more um parents out there be very careful sending your kids to college uh you'll play russian roulette with their values and you may never see them again um maybe university of arkansas has no liberals i don't know maybe i don't you guys could tell me so um there you go so uh you guys could tell me all about it i'm sure so i never i never go into a state and tell people what's wrong with their state um california actually that's the exception i do that although i do that all the time in california i'm i'm done well that's not true but um you guys could tell me in q a and then i can respond to that and we can explore that together um but what is the purpose of education and this is something that you know we're kind of debating right now in our country and you see that in this whole florida situation right where in florida somehow disney made you know 250 billion dollar major media company is coming out and they're super upset because all of a sudden you know five-year-olds won't be learning about gay sex or whatever right um and by the way this is total gaslighting it's pure and total propaganda okay is that if you think you're losing your mind you're not this is a propaganda technique okay it's a parental rights bill that was passed in florida that is so vanilla it should have gotten unanimous support and disney should have supported it instead the exact opposite has happened instead governor ron desantis god bless him by the way the courageous and the wonderful rhonda sanchez signed into law this parental rights bill disney is now saying by the end of the year they want half their characters to be lesbian gay bisexual trans i can't remember all the letters whatever all that stuff by the end of the year they went half they want more children to be exposed to gay kissing and that stuff that's their own statement you can make your own judgment on that whether you think five-year-olds need to be exposed to that and then disney comes out and they say in their private zoom call now leaked that you know we that we need to it's the not so secret gay agenda at disney okay so if we don't actually know what education is some of these things can be kind of hard to dispute because someone will say no it's free speech we need to give teachers free speech to five-year-olds i say who on earth what do you think education is do you think it's the time for a teacher to spout out with whatever they want to talk about of course not you're developing a mind there that's a really fragile thing i don't care your opinion at all actually there's some guy in msnbc he says you know i'm really concerned because i won't be able to tell my five-year-olds in kindergarten that i went paddle boarding with my husband it was like it was a guy that was saying this i was like wait for and he called in his children in the class which was super creepy right but wait a second whoever told you that's the purpose of why you're a teacher you as a teacher are there to lead a student towards what is good true and beautiful you're there to create good citizens you're there to capture their imagination so they can study the western canon towards things that make them a fully developed human being and then people say well charlie what if the children think differently exactly who cares they're children they're not in charge of their own education this is exactly what's wrong it's and by the way you think about it we've been propagandized about this people say well we have to listen to children's opinion no we don't it's completely irrelevant what the children think what's relevant is what we want and what is good if we now think it's controversial to say adults know what is better for children than what children think for as children then we got to redo the entire dietary guidelines now this is the most obvious thing that we could get we say and they're like well no we need to we need to have all the children share their opinions it's like actually it's irrelevant what an eight-year-old opinion is to me what's relevant is are they grasping things that get them on the journey to be a complete human being understand the unity of mind body and spirit to understand what it's like that the world is really tough really nasty really mean and they're gonna have to be tough and have perseverance and grit to get through that to know that they are just one part in an ever unfolding story of a god who made them and loves them and they're made in the image of that god are are we communicating that and so what is the purpose of education it's not it's not giving a teacher some soapbox to say whatever they want to say it's instead having teachers that know they want to lead them forth towards what is good true and beautiful and that's actually where the word education comes from it means literally to lead forth in latin okay so that's a lot of fun um let's do some questions i just want to say this in closing of this part of the remarks um i just want to encourage all of you right now that might feel as if you're living under some form of tyranny right now okay it's normal it's okay but it is it is never the wrong thing to push back against tyranny it might not be comfortable it might not be easy but you will be rewarded long term especially if you do that at a young age a sp the younger you get used to that the freer and happier your life will be so what is the definition of tyranny do you have to watch your language your word choice your association your social media comments always as if someone is watching and if you say something wrong your life will be derailed if the answer to that question is yes you are not free so do something about it and that's what our turning point usa kids are doing every single day they're making the decision like hey there's gonna be a constant i don't care i'm gonna live in a place of personal freedom and i wanna get that country back and you guys can all do that okay thank you so much let's do some questions guys so okay right here you guys line up and uh we love disagreements if you no soapbox though please so we reserve the right to interject okay let's get to some questions here we got we got a fair amount of time too so okay we'll get right here let's get that mic on please is the mic on all right we only got one working mic i think so why don't you shout it and i'll repeat it yeah okay at what point do you think oh someone's working over there okay at what point do you think corporations have a right if any to require vaccinations of any kind that's a great question so um look i think over a certain size over 10 employees i would have loved to have seen every conservative legislature to say um that vaccination status um is a protected class and it's none of the business of an employer to be able to come in and to require uh the vaccine of anyone in fact i should even say 10 10 people i should just say in general if you are in a workplace similar under the civil rights act um where there is a protected class if you will um and look no one should be forced to get the vaccine against their will no one should be forced to get the vaccine against their will and the amount of people that lost their jobs lost their livelihoods um that saw their entire world v their entire world fall apart all around them was um was so unbelievable to me so what should conservatives do about that well lawmakers should step up and say listen if you have you have rights as an employee that you should not be able to be terminated for your job just because you don't want to take an experimental vaccine that we all know by the way does not prevent against infection does not totally prevent against hospitalization and by the way if we're talking about this in general why is it that we're never allowed to talk about azithromycin hydroxychloroquine ivermectin vitamin d why is it we can never talk about those things ever so um corporations should so vaccine status should fall under hipaa let me say that again vaccine status should fall under hipaa and it currently does not and so that's a very easy fix that anyone in our government could do thank you for your question um i apologize okay in regards to um you're talking a lot about the uh the like the cast system and the streams like the there's a wider gap between the lower class and the higher class and how the middle class is disappearing you you mentioned a lot of that as an issue but you didn't really provide much of a solution to that issue you just kind of stayed that it's an issue and then you kind of continued onwards and in regards to that you did bring up how bernie sanders you said takes advantage of that fact well and then then you said that um so in in regards to that as okay i probably okay that's okay so you're asking basically what will be some of my solutions to that right not just addressing the problem is that is that a fair more or less okay that's fine yeah so i'm glad you mentioned it uh didn't have as much time to dive into it as i would like so first and this will be the generic answer and then i'll get into the non-generic answer okay the first and foremost is this is idealistic and unlikely to happen um is that the federal government has to get off the backs of entrepreneurs stop creating money out of thin air which is hyper inflating our currency and destroying the wealth of regular everyday people right now i say that's the generic answer because that's the answer you'll get from almost anyone on the center right but it's totally true totally true inflation is a thief it is a thief inflation makes you poorer and inflation is directly correlated thanks to the six trillion dollars additionally that we created a thin air in the last 18 months period end of story even the san francisco federal reserve who's basically incentivized not to say that has come out and said that so let me tell you something though that will be a little bit contrarian which is that i believe that conservatives should entertain certain policy portfolios where there are tax packages tax incentives for people to have children the number one reason why people do not have children in this country is economic and that's wrong if it if it's too expensive to have kids we should say that matters more than just tax cuts right so we we need to we need to have a hierarchy of needs wants and concerns right so when the birth rate plummets by six hundred and thousand six hundred thousand babies last year like whoa that's not good for society that creates really kind of nihilistic people now i'm not saying free handouts or free money or that but i think if you're a working family and that you're paying your taxes and you're doing things the right way of course government will screw this up so it sounds too idealistic but maybe there might be a way to get this done it's entered it's an interesting conversation if we could pull it off right which would be i actually think that we need to make it easier to do that and so this is a moral question right especially under kind of the current state of affairs that we have right now we give checks to illegals that come into our country yet we don't give any sort of benefit except like maybe like an 800 tax rebate if that for young families that are trying to make it so let me give you an example right so um in order to sustain a family of four you need 53 weeks of labor right now 53 weeks so if you're math you're like wait a second that's more than the whole year yeah which means you have to go into debt or both spouses have to work in 1985 it was 36 weeks of labor which means that the breadwinner could maybe work 42 and take off 10 whatever that might be right and so what's happened is now because of inflation because of the hypercorporatization of our country because we don't make stuff in our country anymore because we've destroyed the backbone of the blue-collar base in our country and we made this big bargain now i'm going to do something you're not allowed to do you guys ready i am going to criticize the biggest employer in the state you're not allowed to do that right and so but let's be honest walmart is largely to blame for the de-industrialization of the core of this country okay now i'm not saying everyone who works for walmart's a bad person or that they've never done anything right whatever okay but let's be honest is that they were front and center of all the trade deals of of saying we're going to send stuff over there bring it back cheaper and bring it and sell it back to the communities bad deal now it could be okay in some nuanced way maybe but when you all of a sudden lose 11 million manufacturing jobs and you have the hollowing out or like wow we no longer have jobs no longer the tax basis the men no longer you know are really have direction in the community and what are we getting in return cheap plastic from wuhan and opioids that's a bad deal and i i don't care if it like increases the stock price of a favorable company in this area we should say like i don't morally i'm not okay with that like the obligation of the people of our country are to their citizens first and foremost not corporate profits and so that's a lot kind of i touched on but um this is one of the things that really bothers me and um kind of just dealing with the current state of affairs i actually think everything i just talked about is agreed upon by 85 to 90 percent of the country i really do uh instead i find that we can't find agreement because of other issues that pop up that i think the media focuses on that we're not going to back down on but look yes i think that there needs to be entertaining new and exciting ideas that will put our citizens first and understand that this generation needs right now some form of new energy because the trajectory right now is this generation will go down as the lost generation the depressed generation and that can quickly be turned into just study history study the weimar republic how quickly those types of generations can embrace really bad ideas if their money is worth nothing and they own nothing and they're not married that is like the perfect prerequisite for a super revolution i don't want to live through that you guys don't either thank you for your question i appreciate that thank you hey my question is kind of a two part or is that all right make it quick okay um so first off if you had to choose between doc or whatever outside and sarah huckabee sanders who would you choose so um so we're a 501c3 so i'll answer your question but i'm going to say it personally if that's okay um so i've known sarah for a very long time 100 sarah huckabee sanders not even close so to answer your question so that's on me personally so don't hold the organization accountable for that and also i told my mom i was coming is there a way to get a selfie you asked so politely so yes okay all right [Applause] got to get it ready man all right next question and by the way if you have a disagreement you're welcome to come to the line and we can chat okay who's up hey charlie my name is journey um i was just curious about the last thing you said about teaching our kids um what would you say to those who say that what's teaching our kids that's true and beautiful and right is teaching our kids about sexuality and that kind of stuff okay so they would say that what is um so that like teaching kids about like yeah like gay issues or is that yeah like teaching them about gay sex is true and beautiful and what they should be like okay so um happy to go into a whole classical education course on why that isn't the case um look let me make this more broad and you guys can feel this in yourself um what is good what is good what is true what is beautiful the founders knew it and they put it very specifically in the declaration of independence this is the universal statement then i'll get to the more specific one the laws of nature and nature's god right the the the laws that put our entire universe in motion not just the laws of physics but also the laws of ethics right the laws of how human beings should operate more specifically what is good and true and beautiful the teachings of the bible and we should be unafraid to say that out loud right and so and this is and so some people let's just let's make this more universal right i know this is a kind of more christian audience but let's try to make this even more universal let's just make it abstract where it says a transcendent higher power absent a belief in a transcendent higher power it could be the buddhist god or the hindu god or the christian god whatever obviously i'm a christian i'm unapologetic about it let's just say an unchanging standard if you remove that then right and wrong is merely an opinion and we we could have that back and forth all day long but if you just deduct it back down to no god no higher purpose it really is like i think you're right i think you're wrong you need something unchanging you need something unmovable as the standard whatever that standard might be and this is the problem that humanists and atheists will always run into they're like well we just kind of know murder is wrong because it's just wrong it's like really according to what is wrong where do you get that from and they'll say eventually well it's because there's a standard above okay so you're elevating something so you do believe in a hierarchy you do believe in something so this is i'm summarizing it the best i can in 90 seconds or less but this is tough work and we need to get our kids learning this from a young age and by the way they used to get this reinforced by watching movies and film so they used to like live in a culture that actually elevated these beautiful stories and now it's the opposite right now even if you send your kids to a classical education or your homeschooling anyone homeschooling by the way god bless you guys amazing even if you're homeschooling even if you're doing that you're like whoa what are they gonna watch when i'm not homeschooling them right like should i give them a smartphone probably not like all these sorts of things right um really really important so i'm happy to get into the specifics of that more but i want to get some more questions so thank you hello uh what would you say to feminists specifically those i think you would consider biological women who are in support of trans women being able to access historically women's spaces like uh female bathrooms and uh being able to participate in women's sports okay what would i say um let me ask are you one of those feminists i am oh okay lucky guess um so yeah what is a woman uh somebody who identifies as a woman so can i become a woman do you have gender dysphoria thankfully no then no oh but so only if you have gender dysphoria you can identify as a woman it's a medical condition it's a medical condition so anyone at any time can become a woman uh no anyone could have gender dysphoria it's it's you claim it upon yourself i i you know what i i'm actually thinking i might i might actually have gender dysphoria so can i become well i wish you the best in your transition and i hope that society accepts you so let me ask you a question um what is cheating what is cheating i can pull up a dictionary definition no like give an example maybe taking something from somebody or a strong person you know maybe using their power against the weak sure somebody using their power against the weak got it okay is leah thomas or william thomas biologically stronger than the competitors that he she was against i don't i'm not uh i don't know about that specific situation probably because she is number one we won the national title yes after the transition right okay is that fair yes so the other women against the man were born with less bone density lower testosterone levels what are they supposed to do to make it even would not know on that specific situation right so there's nothing they can do because men have more testosterone muscle mass and bone density so wouldn't that be cheating hmm i feel like i'm being pulled into a trap and i'm going to step away no it's not a trap no it's not i mean just one sec it's a very simple moral question right so if someone is stronger and was born that way is able to compete against people that are not as strong because they're born that way wouldn't that be the textbook definition of cheating i don't know about that one i'm going to step away thank you can i ask you one more question though yes okay so so you're a feminist and you you say anyone who has gender dysphoria can transition to become a woman at any time that that's that's your position sure okay do you think chromosomes have anything to do with determining what a female is yes okay so then where does the gender dysphoria come into place i think that sex and gender are different things right but then what is a woman somebody who identifies as a woman so anyone can be a woman at any single time you've asked me this question it's still now got it and you're a feminist i am so who are you trying to still true what was that what women are you trying to protect women all women that you regard regardless of uh whether or not they've transitioned whether or not they've transitioned well um i wish you well in the coming situation where now as a feminist you're gonna have to live under the tyranny of men who think they're women thank you for being here tonight one more question we're going to get to the next one thank you [Applause] of course hello um i'd like to uh continue upon her question so you put a lot of focus on leah thomas and that whole situation however what about all of the other trans athletes that don't make it to the top because i unfortunately don't have a list of every trans athlete known to man i didn't fully prepare but what about all of the because leah thomas is one case out of many so what about the other trans athletes that have transitioned and do participate in sports but don't make it to the top and are middle of the pack well they're still beating other women aren't they they're taking somebody's spot right well no but they are women okay so transition so let's ask a question so uh thank you for being here in the courage for talking first what is a woman let's start there well as she said anyone who identifies as such and traditionally it would be gender dysphoria that is a legitimate medical condition so if you have gender dysphoria you know yes okay so let's let's that's interesting so that's your personal definition of what a woman is why should society adopt that definition therefore disenfranchising chromosomal born women really it's out of respect for those that have the condition got it so we should elevate the people with the mental condition over half the population no not at all um i'm just saying that we should just simply because it it's not a battle between i'm elevating this person over another person it's merely out of respect for that person for them to feel comfortable and to okay participate in the sport of you know their gender that they identify okay so feeling comfortable so giving people what they want is not always the right thing okay so let me give you an example we we do not give liposuction to people with anorexia people with anorexia would want liposuction it would kill them we know be
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