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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk Exposes ACLU's Anthony Romero Pushing Cities to Sever Federal Ties Over Immigration Enforcement
Charlie Kirk breaks down a troubling interview between MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and ACLU head Anthony Romero, where Romero openly advocates for cities and states to sever relationships with the federal government to block immigration enforcement. Kirk argues this amounts to Confederacy 2.0, calling it the greatest schism since the Civil War. He proposes cutting federal funds to sanctuary cities that refuse cooperation, while senior Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski joins to discuss the incoming administration's plans for mass deportation, border security, and restoring law enforcement morale. Kirk and Lewandowski emphasize that the Trump team is prepared for immediate action on day one, with a cabinet ready to fight back against resistance from cities protecting criminal illegal immigrants.
ACLU's Plan to Disconnect Cities from Federal Immigration Enforcement
Charlie Kirk plays a clip of Anthony Romero, head of the ACLU, appearing on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow to discuss what he calls a "firewall for freedom." Kirk characterizes this as something far more extreme than typical ACLU legal tactics. According to Kirk, Romero is advocating for cities and local governments to completely sever their relationships with the federal government when it comes to immigration enforcement.
Romero outlines a plan where mayors, governors, and city councils would deny federal immigration authorities access to police officers and jails. He discusses preparing executive orders and organizing pressure campaigns to prevent elected officials from cooperating with federal deportation efforts. Romero even suggests that local governments should pardon immigrants with criminal records for offenses like driving with a suspended license to remove them from federal enforcement reach.
Kirk calls this the greatest schism since the American Civil War, dubbing it "Confederacy 2.0" and comparing Romero to Jefferson Davis. He argues that if cities want to sever relationships with the federal government, they should face complete cutoffs of federal funding including SNAP, food stamps, EBT, Medicaid, Medicare, and school funding.
The Nullification Crisis Parallel
Kirk draws a historical parallel to the Nullification Crisis of the 1800s, when South Carolina attempted to ignore federal law. He emphasizes that states and cities cannot simply choose which federal laws to follow and which to ignore. Kirk points out the irony of Democrats spending years condemning what they call an insurrection while now openly planning revolt against federal immigration law.
He stresses that this kind of resistance is deeply unpopular with the American people, noting that President Trump won the popular vote with 312 electoral votes on a platform that included strong immigration enforcement. Kirk argues that cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, and Portland would collapse within days without federal funding.
Criminal Immigrants and Sanctuary Cities
Kirk expresses outrage at Romero's suggestion that cities pardon criminal immigrants to keep them in the country. He specifically mentions DUIs and other crimes that could endanger American lives. Kirk argues that Democrat leaders who make jails off-limits for illegals facing deportation should themselves face jail time.
He points to Chicago as an example of a city that spent over $500 million on illegal immigrants and now needs to raise taxes while still depending on federal money to make ends meet. Kirk insists that cities cannot disconnect on immigration while continuing to receive federal funds for everything else.
Corey Lewandowski on Trump's Deportation Plans
Senior advisor to President Trump, Corey Lewandowski, joins the conversation to discuss the incoming administration's immigration enforcement strategy. Lewandowski makes clear that Tom Homan has been empowered by President Trump to find and remove criminal illegal immigrants from American cities, with or without local cooperation.
Lewandowski explains that the American people have been crystal clear about wanting criminals and illegal immigrants removed quickly. He emphasizes the resolve of both President Trump and Tom Homan to fulfill this mandate regardless of resistance from elected officials in sanctuary cities.
Legal Foundation from Trump 1.0
Lewandowski discusses how the first Trump administration laid important legal groundwork through policies like Remain in Mexico and Title 42, as well as through the appointment of federal judges who understand the Constitution. He notes that President Trump's most powerful tool is his direct communication, pointing to how his statements prompted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to visit Mar-a-Lago and the Mexican president to pledge border cooperation.
The incoming administration plans to close both the northern and southern borders on day one, January 20th, immediately after President Trump takes the oath of office. Lewandowski explains that there are over a million people in the United States with final deportation orders, meaning courts have already determined they must leave. These individuals, along with felons, rapists, and murderers, will be the first priority for removal.
Self-Deportation and Future Immigration
Lewandowski discusses a self-deportation option for illegal immigrants currently in the United States. Those who leave voluntarily can get in line to return legally, but those who force authorities to come get them will lose the privilege of ever returning to the country. He stresses that America wants immigrants who follow the legal process, just like every other industrialized nation requires.
The mission of Customs and Border Patrol will shift under the new administration to preventing illegal entry and protecting the homeland. Lewandowski reports that border patrol agents and ICE officers are excited about this change in mission and renewed purpose.
Increased Morale Among Law Enforcement
A significant development Lewandowski highlights is the dramatic increase in morale among federal law enforcement. Officers who could have retired under the Biden administration are now choosing to stay because of Trump's election. Some who already retired are asking to come back to government service specifically to participate in this mission.
Lewandowski has spoken with people who have served 10, 20, or 25 years who want to return after only minimal retraining. He also notes massive increases in recruiting efforts for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy, with people specifically requesting border patrol assignments because they know they will finally be allowed to do their jobs instead of being stuck at desks.
Threats from Chinese and Iranian Agents
Kirk asks about threats beyond just the quantity of illegal immigrants, specifically mentioning potential Chinese agents and Iranians who may have entered the country. Lewandowski believes the government knows about these individuals but has been complicit in allowing the situation to continue. He references a 60 Minutes segment that documented Chinese military-age males entering the country and calling Uber for pickup.
Under the Trump administration, law enforcement officials will no longer be handcuffed from addressing these threats. Every resource will be used to identify foreign nationals, including those who entered as students but overstayed, and anyone in the country illegally. US Customs and Immigration Services has records of all these individuals, including those who overstayed visas and potential criminal aliens.
A Cabinet with Titanium Backbones
Lewandowski characterizes President Trump's incoming cabinet as having "backbones of titanium." He has spoken with most or all cabinet nominees and says they are ready for war against the mainstream media and the left. The key difference from eight years ago is that this time the team is fully prepared and shares Donald Trump's exact vision.
One nominee Lewandowski spoke with has already met with 11 US senators and has approximately 40 people ready to walk into their agency on day one, January 20th, to inform bureaucrats that there is a new sheriff in town. Lewandowski hopes President Trump will immediately rescind Joe Biden's executive order giving federal employees five years to work from home, requiring them to report to the office like private sector workers.
Kash Patel and FBI Reform
Lewandowski specifically mentions that when Kash Patel enters the FBI, the organization will experience real, fundamental, and wholesale changes that are long overdue. This comment reflects the broader theme that the entire executive team and cabinet nominees share a mindset of bold reform.
Senate Confirmation Urgency
Both Kirk and Lewandowski emphasize the critical importance of getting Trump's nominees confirmed quickly by the Senate. Lewandowski warns that if nominees are not confirmed promptly, the Biden administration essentially stays in place past January 20th. He calls on the MAGA movement to hold US senators accountable and force them to move nominees through the confirmation process rapidly.
Lewandowski notes that he plans to remain on the outside rather than joining the administration, as he is not much of a rule follower and believes he can best help the president achieve his priorities from outside the government. Kirk agrees that both of them will be fighting from the outside.
Video Transcript
it's it's hard to even describe what
we're about to watch here this is Rachel
mattow with the head of the
ACLU and this is beyond typical tactics
of what the American civil liberties
Union traditionally would advocate for
usually they say okay we'll do some
lawsuits to make sure that you don't
Deport some
people this is Anthony
Romero Anthony Romero in this clip with
Rachel mat on
MSNBC is talking about how they're going
to work with City and local governments
to sever their relationships with the
federal government Anthony Romero is
talking about widespread secession from
the United States to protect the
foreign who have come into the United
States and then pardon millions of
illegals this would be the greatest
schism severing
since the American Civil War prove me
wrong he calls it a firewall of freedom
I call it the Confederacy
2.0 Anthony Romero is talking about
building micro confederacies across the
country if you think I am exaggerating
listen carefully take out your notebook
and take
notes this is Anthony Romero otherwise
wise known as Jefferson Davis play Cut
32 well local governments you know the
State Attorneys General the governors
the Mayors we have this whole plan
around a firewall for Freedom we call it
when they're going to try to detain and
Deport all these hundreds of thousands
up up to a million people that's a an
operation that they have the legal power
to do to do the raids but the logistics
and they're going to need Mayors and
governors or City councils to either
them access to police officers or not
jails we you going to house all these
folks right and so part of what we're
doing is we're preparing executive
orders and we're organizing our folks to
put pressures on elected officials so
they don't roll over they should sever
these relationships they have with the
federal government on immigration
enforcement they should make sure that
our prisons and our and our jails are
off limits they should begin to think
about what actions they could take to
Pardon immigrants who have a criminal
record because they drove in a suspended
license well let's take them out of
Harm's Way they could do that now let's
commute they could do that now the
transition
yes all right Anthony Romero you want to
play hard ball you're going to sever the
relationship the federal government how
are you going to feed your communities
without snap or food stamps food stamps
cut how about EBT cut Medicaid cut you
all of a sudden want to sever yourself
no money for schools no money for police
hey medicare payment you want to all of
a sudden play this game how about for
the elderly people in elderly care
facilities in
Philadelphia that are receiving Medicare
you want to sever from the United States
of America this is secessionist talk
from Anthony Romero and Rachel matow is
cheering it on oh they could do it now
if Democrat leaders try to make Jail off
limits for illegals facing deportation
we should make it so that the jails
aren't off limits for the leaders
themselves
if states and cities revolt against
immigration
enforcement it needs to be a complete
cut off of federal
funds there was an event in the 1800s
called The Nullification Crisis South
Carolina thought they could just end and
ignore a federal law well look how that
ended and by the way the the American
people are against any city that is
doing this they are not playing with
house money here this kind of chatter is
incredibly unpopular we have a mandate
won the popular vote 312 electoral votes
they've been screaming years about an
Insurrection because of a couple senior
citizens with pocket constitutions want
to go prey in the capital runda
meanwhile they're openly planning a
revolt against federal law saying we
have to sever ourselves away from the
federal government who can play this
game Social Security cut Medicare cut
you all a sudden don't want money
flowing into La San
Francisco within a couple of days San
Francisco LA Seattle and Portland would
collapse this is think about how sick
these ideas are pardon the criminal
immigrants for their crimes just so that
they can say that these criminals stay
in America these are criminals he's
talking about wiping the record clean of
driving Under the
Influence a DUI that might kill
somebody they want America ruined by
Foreign
criminals they want criminals to wreck
it they spent over 500 million on
illegals in Chicago so now they have to
raise taxes but they're planning on
federal money to make ends meat that
dog's not going to hunt anymore you said
that Anthony Romero not us you said we
have to disconnect on immigration well
that doesn't work that way you don't get
to choose what parts of the government
you want to show up and which ones you
don't it's either you are going to be
part of a national small r republican
project or not and Rachel mattow just
nodding
along you declare this form of session
it will not end well for
you Confederacy 2.0 we'll be right
back joining us now is Cory lowski who's
doing great work for the Republic right
now Corey great to see you uh senior
adviser to president Trump amongst many
other things Corey your thoughts on that
tape that I played in the last segment
of Anthony Romero talking about how CIS
are disconnecting from the federal
government what is your thoughts on that
hey Charlie let me just be crystal clear
Tom Holman has a job to do and he has
been empowered by the president of the
United States to go in and find the
fallons who are in these cities in these
municipalities and if these cities think
that they're going to have the
opportunity to just say we're not going
to participate or you're not welcome
here they do not understand the resolve
of President Trump or Tom Holan to rid
these criminals from our communities it
is going to be done with or without the
support of the local individuals or
those elected officials because the
American people have been very clear
about this get rid of the felons get rid
of the illegals in this country and do
it
quickly so it's just the idea that
they're going to sever ties can you
speak Corey about how in the first Trump
Administration a lot of the difficult
legal uh leg work was done uh remain in
Mexico title 42 meaning that there there
was years and years of getting this
stuff to the courts in some ways the
table is really set for a mass
deportation Force do you agree with that
and walk us through what Steven Miller
Tom homman uh soon DHS secretary
Christine Nome will be able to do to
help fulfill this Mass deportation
effort well first and foremost Charlie
look the most powerful tool we have in
our toolbox is Donald John Trump and his
truth message that says when it Clos the
Border uh clearly had an impact because
Justin Trudeau made a pilgrimage down to
Mara Lago to talk to him we know that he
had a conversation with the president of
Mexico and she said we will help close
that border because the first thing to
do is to close our border the next thing
we're going to do and people don't
remember this but part of the first
Trump 1.0 success was the appointing of
federal judges who understand the
Constitution those judges are going to
be challenged by the left in the ACLU
saying you cannot Deport these people
because some of them are American
citizens here's what the president has
said and he was very clear about this on
Meet the Press he said if you are part
of a family or an extended family and
you want to stay with that family and
part of your family members are felons
they are going to be leaving this
country and you can choose to leave with
them or you can choose to stay but
that'll be decision you make but we are
not going to be held hostage because
children are going to be separated from
felons who are in this country illegally
so closing the border the deportation is
going to occur we've got over a million
people in this country who have finally
deportation orders meaning they have
nowhere else to go the courts have
adjudicated this they say you have to
leave this country we're going to go
find those people I'm going to remove
them immediately that's the first step
after we get the felons the rapists the
murderers out of this country so Charlie
that alone is almost two million people
who are running around our communities
doing no good that we're going to find
and we're going to deport very
quickly and Corey can you speak to this
a couple concerns that it does us no
good to return some to Venezuela if
they're going to come back in 6 months
that it's necessary to then of course
have a secure militarized Border in
addition to the deportation force will
both of those things be working in
tandem absolutely listen on day one
January 20th after Donald Trump takes
his hand off of that Bible the border is
going to be closed both the northern and
the southern border and here's what
we're also going to do Charlie we're
going to let people around the world
know you can't come to this country
illegally anymore so if you're in this
country illegally and you want to self-
deport I recommend you do that because
if we have to come get you you won't
have the privilege to come back to the
greatest country the world has ever
known you want to self the port get in
line and come back in the right way by
all means we want you if you try to come
to this country illegally the Border
will be closed we have a process just
like every other industrialized country
in the world has a process to come to
this country legally you follow that
process and we want you you try to come
illegally we will stop you the Border
will be closed the men and women of the
Customs and Border Patrol have new
mission coming their mission is to
prevent uh illegals from coming into
this country and to protect the Homeland
they are excited about it we're seeing
the excitement across the people who had
the opportunity to retire under the
Biden Administration they're saying now
that Trump is coming we want to stay
we're seeing that in the military we're
seeing that the border with the ice
people with Tom Holman people are coming
back from government service who have
retired because they want to do
something great for this country and so
the Border will be closed and people
will be getting out very
quickly yeah speak even deeper that the
morale is actually increasing I mean
I've had the opportunity to just meet a
couple of the rank and file in the last
couple of weeks uh this weekend actually
at America Fest uh we're going to have
the acting president of the border
patrol Council there and they're
thrilled you said something really
noteworthy Corey can you just
contextualize that further and deepen it
that people are forgoing an easy
retirement to continue on this effort
tell us more about that you know Charlie
over the last four or five weeks since
president Trump has one I've had the
opportunity to talk to a number of
people who have the opportunity to
retire from federal service who say you
know what because Donald Trump is coming
in we'd like the privilege to stay this
is what our mission has always been we
got into the law enforcement Community
to go out and get bad guys to protect
our communities and our neighbors and
our friends and by UNH handcuffing Us by
giving us the opportunity to get away
from our desk jobs and going back into
the field we want to do that the other
thing we've seen Charlie is a massive
outpour of recently retired officers who
said I've done 10 20 25 years let me
come back into government service so
that we can be assistance immediately
there's a very small amount of training
that they have to go back through and
we're also seeing massive increases in
our recruiting efforts so those
individuals who go to the flexi the
federal law enforcement Trading Academy
are saying let us come to border patrol
now that we know that we'll be able to
do our jobs because for the last four
years we've been desk jockey we're going
to put more officers on the street we're
going to make sure that our borders are
safe those ice agents are going to go
out and find the bad guys and our
communities are going to be better for
it so so Corey now let's let's talk uh
more broadly about threats against the
Homeland that we are seeing it's not
just the quantity of people but there
are some potential very very dangerous
people as far as Chinese agents or
Iranians that might have slipped through
what department is responsible for
identifying these people and do you
think our government currently even
knows the bad ombres that are currently
domicil themselves in the interior of
the United
States know Charlie I think they know I
think the government has been complicit
in this they've allowed this to happen
you know I hate to give any credit to 60
minutes because they're a terrible
organization but they catalog the whole
thing of these you know these Chinese uh
individuals coming in these military age
males coming in very they're calling in
Uber and saying come pick me up of
course the government knows what's going
on they've chosen to do nothing about it
as it relates to Iran and our enemies we
know what's going on but but these law
enforcement officials have been
handcuffed they've been styed from going
out and stopping it those days are
coming to an end in five weeks when
Donald Trump puts his hand on that Bible
and then what's going to happen is we
will use every resource available to us
we will identify those foreign Nationals
those people who are here as allegedly
foreign students who were supposed to be
doing you know college work who are who
are basically problems coming into this
country and anybody who's in this
country illegally the US Customs and
Immigration Services has a record of all
of these people the people who' have
oversay their visas who shouldn't be
here the potential criminal aliens we're
going to find these people they're going
to be out of this country very quickly
and our communi is going to be
safer so uh so Corey can you just uh
talk more broadly about the team that
President Trump is assembling um how
bold how dyamic and how issue ready it
is uh both of us have the opportunity to
kind of be around some of the energy of
the transition can you speak to how this
is a day one minute one second one
prepared
operation you know Charlie I've had the
opportunity to talk to uh if not all of
most of the members of the president
incoming cabinet and one thing they have
in common is they have a backbone of
titanium they are ready for this war
that we have been preparing for and I
call it a war Charlie because when it
looks to the mainstream Media or the
left they're going to come after us was
every single thing possible and the
difference in this term from what it was
eight years ago when Donald Trump to
Trum Trump took over was the people are
ready he is surrounding himself with
Fighters and I mean that in a very
positive way people who have the same
vision as Donald Trump I spoke to one of
our uh nominees yesterday who said he's
already met with 11 US senators he's
back on the hill this week and he's got
about 40 people already for his
particular agency ready to go on day one
January 20th to walk in the door and
tell the bureaucrats there is a new
sheriff in town and and and I'm sure
your listeners saw this Joe Biden signed
an executive order that gave federal
government employees I think five years
to continue to work from home I hope and
I'm very hopeful that the president
resends that on day one and says listen
if you want to continue to get paid by
our taxpaying dollars then you better
get your butt into the office every
single day like everybody in the private
sector does that is the mindset of all
of his cabinet nominees of all of his
executive team look when cash Patel
comes into the FBI they know that real
fundamental and wholesale changes com
into that organization and it's long
overdue um Corey how can people support
you and get behind what you are doing
and do you plan to go into the
administration Cory I don't even know
this the answer to this question you
know Charlie I think I'm probably best
on the outside I'm not really much of a
rule follower as you know there's a lot
of rules in the federal government and
so I've had a great priv
to to be outside and help the president
he's got a lot of priorities that I want
to help him achieve uh and I'm always
best to do that I think from the outside
so listen you can find me on true social
you can find me on ex's just C lowski
uncore uh is the best place but guys
we've got a huge opportunity in front of
us all that you're doing Charlie all
that the Maga movement is doing we have
to hold these US senators accountable we
must force them to get our nominees
through very quickly because if we don't
the Biden Administration stays on board
past January 20th if our nominees are
not
confirmed Corey excellent thank you so
much for your time you're welcome
anytime you're fighting really hard you
and me both are going to be on the
outside you and me both so uh very good
Corey thank you