Charlie Kirk on Fatherhood, Faith, and Fighting for the Next Generation at Calvary Chapel South OC

wow look around wow some Freedom loving people in here tonight so glad you're here what a blessing it is to have you here I want to introduce myself my name is John Randall I actually have the privilege of pastoring here at Calvary South o sea and um we're so glad that you're here I'm I'm humbled and I'm blessed to live in the greatest country in this world the United States of America and as a Christian I do believe that God calls us to be good citizens and included in that within that calling is that the church is to be Salt and Light we are to be the preserving influence that will impact the country with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and listen we see the writing on the wall you know what's going on that's why you're here we live in a world of information and so to help us understand a little bit more I'm excited tonight to have with us a man that's a Christian he's a husband he's a father and he's also the founder and president of Turning Point USA really doesn't need much introduction come on Charlie Kirk my friend come on come on great turn up man all right oh what a blessing thank you so much for coming Charlie we're we're blessed to have you here and um you know last time we were together it was in 2020 and uh we were there in San Juan and let's face it a lot has happened since 2020 and first of all um the last time we were together you had just got married but now you are a father and my question to you is how has being a father changed your life and impacted the work that you're doing with Turning Point USA well well thank you John and how great is Pastor John by the way does he not do a great job I'll tell you and I love this church and I can see you guys have big big plans to keep on growing I remember the the old spot you have and uh I just love it I love this church and Michelle you guys do such a great job and uh yeah I mean it's changed everything um you know the best way I could analogize it is it's kind of like the Old Testament and the New Testament of your life uh like BC and AD it's like you don't even you don't even it's like a different chapter of your life before you have a child getting married is of course the most important thing uh besides giving your life to Jesus Christ uh I will say though that the transformation that occurs uh when uh you hold your child um if you you get exactly what I mean uh and if you don't then uh get married and have kids uh because it's good for you and good for society um but also I mean I will say this um it radicalizes me in the best possible ways and I inherently have difficulty and I pray for forgiveness over this for the kind of bitterness I have towards like the childless that are trying to ruin our society people that don't have children and people that don't want us to have children and they're telling you that we shouldn't have kids because of climate change or you know we should just have more abortion in our country it's the greatest gift from the Lord to have children and it we should celebrate that every single day it's not easy you worry about things you've never thought you'd worry about before and I mean but you realize that life is not about you and that that is the Christian calling is that it's the unraveling of you and it's focusing on Christ and focusing on the cross focusing on duty and obligation and obedience and you realize that that you want to try to pass that down to somebody else or a different generation and then not as if I needed more urgency but it created a let's say a higher level of a sense of urgency that was like wow we're handing down an increasingly awful place to live for my daughter we're destroying the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world we're doing it to ourselves and I'm not going to be able to look her in the eyes when she's 10 years old or 15 years old and she'll say like what was America like when we didn't have you know like all the different you know open Borders or what did we used to have a country that was considered to be great yeah and I I wouldn't be able to live with myself and I think you feel the same way um because that's why we're in this fight we're in we're in this fight for our children and God willing our grandchildren and so uh it's blessed Erica and I immeasurably um and if you think you've seen uh Charlie Kirk work hard we're going to a whole another level uh that's what fatherhood does for you I love that you know Charlie I recently saw an interview that you had with Russell bran it's been seen by over a million people I mean this thing is just and he asked you a question and I thought it was a great question and the way that you answered it was was excellent can you share about how important your relationship with Jesus Christ is as your savior yeah I mean it's everything and we must always keep our eyes focused on the cross and you know when I visit these college campuses by the way keep us in prayer tomorrow I'm going to San Diego State University for two of events and so I somebody recently said Charlie would you like to go on a mission trip for me I'm good I've done I love the mission work I do my mission work here domestically on college campuses uh so when I when I go when I go to San Diego State University you know they'll ask me what makes Christianity different there's all these different religions and who's to say that yours is correct or right and you know appealing to reason usually doesn't always work in that moment it has to be a soul thing and have to have transformation from within but it it needs to be expressed that Christianity is the only faith that expresses where the Divine took the temporal form not out of any sort of the only explanation could be love it's the greatest love story ever told which is and this is why John 1 is so incredibly important and the Book of John is transformational uh because it is the clearest about Christ's Divinity um the Christ Divinity is expressed in all all gospels but it is by far the clearest in John the s statements and then just John 1 that in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh that is so deep and heavy if you think about the word in Greek is logos and I'm sure Pastor John has walked you through this multiple times but understanding what that meant in ancient Greek was that it was the the the idea that the Universe has an in infinite component to it the all of the stars all of the um constellations the logos is the idea that we have gravity and physics and it's the power that made that all come together from our DNA from how you are perfectly and wonderfully made the Greek said the logos is the mind of the universe if you will the best way I could put it is the designer and what John says so clearly is that the logos then became human and so let's contrast that with Buddhism so in Buddhism it is all about how dirty you as a human being are and that you must shed your dirtiness as a human being to reach nirvana if you talk to a true Buddhist they would they they think it is incomprehensible that the Divine or the Eternal would ever take human form like why would the perfect ever become the dirty human they just they don't get it said that we're supposed to become Eternal by not talking and by literally in Buddhism not talking as one of the highest levels of climbing towards Nirvana and only the Buddha in their belief system did that Christianity flips it all over it's that that God loved you so much that he took human form and that that that is a that is a truth that resonates to all people and we we are joking around about John 3 you know uh backstage but it's said right there uh when Nicodemus is basically questioning Jesus and this is where we get the idea of being born again where Nicodemus is like what do you mean you're born again aren't you already you're born once at your mother's womb and Jesus is like no you must be born both by water and spirit water being B AP ISM spirit being by accepting Christ as your lord and savior and only those will then come into the kingdom of God and Nicodemus is like what are you talking about like God bless this guy right he's trying to figure this out and that's where we get the most famous verse in all of Christianity for God so Lov the world uh that he gave him one his one only son that whoever believe in him shall not perish but he have eternal life in the next verse that he did not send his son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world and so this is a rescue mission understand that we are in Peril because of our own broken selfish nature God gave us the ability to choose and we messed it up since the garden and we we have not done very well since War famine destruction disease self-interest murder rape and God sees all of humanity and he says I love Humanity so much I'm going to give them one last Eternal chance and I'm going to take their form not just broadcast it on billboards and say give all your money to me and all this but I'm going to walk walk alongside of you and among you and so Jesus Christ is the most important thing in my life and it's transformed me from within I and I I get the amazing opportunity to dialogue with people of all different faiths and you know without picking on you know different uh religions you know let's just say like the new age Eastern religions they're always grappling with this idea of like I have to strip myself of all the Earthly things and you know if I just kind of get my um chakra right then I'll be able to get to Enlightenment like you're thinking way too much about this like it's just Jesus is the answer that's it it's accepting Jesus into your soul that is the answer in your life and then the Greeks had a word for this which is metam which is the metamorphosize you and and I know you guys have a men's conference coming up in Romans 12:2 which is do not conform to the ways of this world but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind it's the same word renewal or revitalization or metamorphosis which metamorphosis we think of kind of a caterpillar caterpillar into a butterfly that's what happens with Jesus is that you don't even remember who you once were and then it's not that you don't sin but for real Christians you know what I mean it's that when you sin you feel differently and that's my number one mark of how I know someone's an actual Christian is it's how do you feel like let's for example you might have really been a big drinker then you give your life to Christ and then you try to be a big drinker again you're like you just feel like you're taking Jesus drinking along with you like you feel different you're like it's not as if you don't do it but you just have something almost that you're trying to reconcile with it that is fruit that you've been born new and we don't we don't give our lives to Christ or let me say this we don't do good things just to try to win favor with Christ and that's what makes everything so different in Christianity is that religions are trying to win points on the scoreboard it's a free gift right there for you and we don't do good things to get saved we do good things because we are saved right it's completely different we do it out of an act of worship and celebration and I I can say this I'm not an expert in world religions but I am an expert in American paganism I am uh because I fight it every single day uh and by the way I love these pastors like I don't want to be political you don't realize we're fighting the pagan gods of the the Old Testament every day we are fighting the Pagan God of Molech we're fighting the Pagan God of Jezebel we are fighting the pagan gods that God's chosen people were up against all the time when I go to these college campuses they are broken they are suffering they're looking for Eternal hope and only Jesus is that hope and if I can bring just you know one person to Christ I know there's one person I met earlier uh that was just an amazing testimonial um then it's a life well- lived and you get life eternal it's the greatest thing you can give to other people and so praise God that uh we get the chance to know Jesus Christ and if you don't you should make that decision here tonight it's the most important decision you can make there you go it's the best the best information you could have and I often say listen you can be conservative and still on your way to hell you need Christ you need to be born again that's what that's what matters you know Charlie I want to talk for a moment just talking about um our involvement in the church and you know there's something lately that I've heard more um it's it's it's some titles that get thrown around some some things that the church is being called it's the word Christian Nationalist and dominionist can you help us understand it it is you can't get involved in anything civically because you're all you're a Christian Nationals can I break that down for us help us to understand what what is that about so so glad you bring this up uh John this is now the number one narrative that will be pushed forward by a secular Pagan regime to try to get the church not involved in politics uh they have now broadcasted it they've done a movie uh people that I grew up really respecting I'm saddened by this John uh and I like people like Russell Moore who I end up reading a lot of his stuff he's going in movies saying that Christian nationalism is this huge threat and he's partnering with Sean uh secular pag I was going to say satanic but that's probably true too um but SEC secular pagans and making these films you know warning and cautioning about the growing threat of Christian nationalism and I I always joke around I said I've I've spoken over 150 churches across the country like what what exactly are you afraid of are you afraid of all the poor people that they're helping or all the hungry people that they're feeding or all the marriages that they're saving right are you afraid of all the people that are lost that now have Direction because of the church and what they're really afraid of is they're terrified that the Christian Church might unite its political power and might be the no against the regime and it is the conscious of the nation and so you know I get asked all the time are you a Christian Nationalist and I say I don't like that term I don't I am a Christian and I am a nationalist so I'm not afraid of that what you're trying to do is you're trying to call me a Nazi okay so let's just be as I'm a blunt guy if you don't know that um you're trying to call me a Nazi and so I find that to be reprehensible and repulsive I want a restoration of the Constitution and that's what you want too I want I'm a constitutionalist I'm a Bible believing Christian constitutionalist you know who else was James Madison and George Washington and John J and Alexander Hamilton if I went around to everyone in this room if I said if we can restore the promise of the Constitution would you be happy you'd say absolutely and the bad guys say well what are you so afraid of oh I don't know um the church being deemed non essential when strip clubs and marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores could remain open and the church has to close forcibly and Easter and Pentecost are taken from us or I don't know they go after our children and try they try to chemically castrate them them against their will where is the did you shout them out earlier the um the ballot referendum that's so important by the way everyone's got a sign in that ballot referendum it's incredibly important here and so I go back to the Bible and and to scripture for all authority and for all guidance it's not in the Bible then we got a problem okay so let's go to a couple verses Jeremiah 29:7 seek or demand it's the word badash in Hebrew the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation 's welfare it is a commandment from the Lord as the Prophet Jeremiah writes in the 29th book that you need to care about your nation Daniel fasted and prayed for his Nation Esther cared for her Nation morai cared for his Nation Jeremiah not to mention um Elijah who didn't just care about his Nation he confronted King Ahab and was like let's throw this down on Mark Mount Carmel and see who the real God actually is they would call him Elijah you're being too political Elijah how dare you confront the Pagan forces why don't you just preach the gospel Elijah why are you trying to throw it down on Mount Carmel you're to confrontation he did even more than that if you you could check it out in uh in I think you guys are studying First Kings you'll get to that uh pretty soon um it wasn't polit wasn't politically correct but they're using this as a way to try to make you feel radical and Afraid okay you must reject the premise in that sense kind of laugh at it and scoff at it and say oh you think I'm a Christian nationalist well you're a Pagan globalist that's interesting like you worship the fake pagan gods of child sacrifice and of child mutilation you worship at the golden calf of money and pride and fame and social acceptance Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and I want a restoration of what unites all different tribes of this country believing tribes and non-believing tribes one thing that we can all agree on is that the promise of the Declaration of the Constitution is that is biblical it is based largely and primarily on the book of Deuteronomy it is one that is eternal it hearkens back to even the Supreme judge of the world which you know in Revelation is Jesus Christ who sits on the throne and judges you read the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence it is a prayer many people have not told you this before there is a prayer in our founding documents oh Charlie don't you know the founding fathers were all secular well okay 55 out of 56 of the founding fathers are Bible believing Church attending Christians but yes maybe one of them was not you know a Christian not to mention 9 out of 13 of the original colonies at the founding at the American founding had a requirement that you were a Bible believing Christian even serve in political office in nine out of 13 of those original uh colonies however going back out of that what we want at this time is for the Constitution to be restored the Church to never be deemed non essential again for our children to be off limits that the separation between adult and child is firm and and is not negotiable and we will never waver on that that the distinctions between male and female will never be blurred and let me just reiterate what I said earlier the biblical role for a Christian in the church is not to make politics your everything it surprises my critics when I say that because they don't listen to what I say they put words in my mouth I have never said that politics should be the only business of the church I said you should care about it yeah Jesus needs to be the center of your church but if you don't ever mention politics if you don't ever mention what happens in your city if you don't ever mention morality you are failing your flock and unfortunately in today's time the political band is growing and growing and growing because government is growing and growing and growing so the threat to the church is growing and are we going to be like the Christians in Nazi Germany that just sat idly by when the Great Horrors were continuing and the trains were bringing Jews to concentration camps well we don't want to be political because of Romans 13 that's not who as Christians are in this country so they're going to try to silence us they're going to try to make us seem as if you're bad or you're some sort of fascist because you want a restoration of the American promise reject the premise keep scripture as the core and I know the one thing that will unite us as a free society which is a Biblical Society is the Constitution and getting back to a constitutional republic love it great word you know being being being a church leader and serving in a local congregation here in a community why do you suppose that some church leaders and you touched on it are hesitant to take a stand against this flood tide of evil that we see coming in what is it that stops them from being more bold about these things John I have to brag on you I'm very touched um that you would continue to have me back to this church it's not a joke I mean there are some there are pastors that have to resign because they get found out that they're fans of Turning Point and Charlie Kirk there's one Pastor in particular in Kansas he uh was fired because he wanted to screen you know letter to the American church one of the movies uh that we did so I I want to applaud you John you're a real you're a courageous person and it it really is great and I mean that and I again I I don't consider what I say to be controversial the world considers it to be controversial that I consider what I say to be biblical and factional and reasonable and rational but look look John let's be honest the vast majority of people that call themselves pastors are not actually pastors and I know that's a controversial thing to say I believe a pastor is someone that has full spectrum involvement in the alses of the world to try to bring Christ and the truth of the scriptures to wherever it's needed that means to youth ministry to prison Ministries to marriage Ministries whatever it is and that also means to the Public Square they look at being a pastor as you know kind of a mixture between a motivational speak speaker and a TED Talk um and their churches have kind of become like I don't know five ways to improve your happiness with good coffee and organized parking and and and I again I'm not trying to overly insult I'm trying to be more I I I get these emails from these sweet people Charlie you shouldn't pick on pastors so much it's just I'll be honest guys I mean I hold this is where I disagree with it I have three different uh things of how I hold you to account and the word judgment gets thrown around a lot we are supposed to judge within the body just so we're clear okay the the world I have a lot of I have a heart for the lost but here's the thing if you if on on campus if someone comes up to me they say I'm a Marxist atheist I hold them to a much lower standard than someone who comes up to me and says I'm a Believer when they say I'm a Believer I say okay now we're talking and here's one of the reasons why I I I'm and then the third is that then if you say you're a pastor you're a much much much higher standard and don't take my word for it I'll give you multiple biblical examples the entire book of Titus is all about church governance and if you're in the administration of the Holy you're held to a higher standard Paul wrote extensively about those in the head of the church have different rules different Customs different accountability measures if you are going to be in charge of an eklesia or a body the entire Book of Leviticus is about if you are a priest if you are in the handling of the Holy different rules different Customs different clothes different garments and so throughout the Scriptures it is screaming at us that if you're a pastor it's just you're hold held to a higher standard yeah and uh just let's go back to the Ten Commandments do not take the lord's name in vain now that means verbally we should never say the I don't like when people throw around oh my you know ex I don't like it I believe that to be a sin but I believe it actually is deeper than that and it's not reading into it exegetically the word is do not carry the lord's name in vain uh which you could interpret that in a lot of different ways it is not too far to say and the original rabbis would say this back 2,000 3,000 years ago which is that if you are going to do evil in the name of God that is one of the most that is the unforgivable thing you do and if you really wrestle with that it makes sense because for example if every Pastor was an adulterer it would destroy the faith if every single P think about it they pick one Pastor out of a thousand and it makes us all look bad right just think about one they're able to they're misrepresent the entire body of Christ and so when you are in the role and you say I am a pastor by the way I never say I'm a pastor I'm not a theologian I'm a Christian I'm a Believer and I love the word okay but when someone says they're a pastor we immediately need to hold them to higher account because they're now telling you that I am a spokesperson an interlocutor a dare I say mediator for the scriptures now Christ is the ultimate mediator but they say that I'm here to help you understand this and if they say something is Blasphemous and as is heretical that well that the the we don't do politics around here we just do the gospel then I believe you're going to be judged for that kind of heresy I I I and I don't think you should only talk about politics but you're trying to tell me God is indifferent to the one million abortions happening in this country every single year and that he wants his church just to kind of you know s sit around and talk about how you know they they read live Eat and Pray or whatever that silly book is that you know more women would know than men or whatever pray live and eat I always get it wrong whatever it is i't read it I don't know about and and I look I look at some of these pastors and I will say I break them into different categories some of them you know they they obviously have a much bigger wardrobe budget than a book budget and I say these guys have got to resign from the ministry they're not doing serious study or scholarship and but some I think are afraid MH and I'll be honest I've lost patience with them I had patience with them for like during covid and now I said if you are afraid as a pastor go sell insurance stop being a pastor you have no business only God you by the way nothing against insurance salesman we need you please I mean I I love you guys to death okay but I'm sure we have a couple here tonight that they aren't laughing at all at what I'm saying not funny that's not funny just kidding um but I'll I'll I'll I'll throw it back to you John with this if you're going to step into the arena right now at the very consequential times we're living in the signs of the times all around us and you're going to say I'm a pastor and you want that because of the lifestyle or the Instagram clicks or you think that it's like a cool job I I highly recommend you get out of the Arena because you're doing more harm than good thank you Charlie you know I wonder as you and just to kind of capitalize on that a little bit more and I do agree with you I think um when you read through scripture there were times when God would call prophets to confront Kings and would put a word in their mouth and it wasn't an easy word to deliver and they weren't always applauded and most times they were either imprisoned or they were put to death they were hated and I think there's the fear of man has taken above really the fear of God and and if you fear if you fear God you don't have to fear anything I mean that's really what it comes down to the fear of man Bible says the fear of man brings a snare and and I think it's important to have a greater reverence for God I also would like to add and maybe ask ask you this Charlie do you think it's possible because as a pastor either and it works in a couple different ways you have people that say hey you are too political and then you have others that say you're not political enough and so you as a pastor you're you know you're let's say you're ministering and you're doing all this but people say you don't say enough I'm saying stuff like I'm you know it's not every week I'm G to like open the Constitution to I open the Bible but I if it comes up you know I issues come up we're going to talk about it we can't be afraid of it but I wonder is it possible do you think it's possible to be to one side is there where's the this is my question and I really try to strike this and you who attend here you know my heart on this I really try to strike the balance try to find the balance John if people say you aren't political enough they're wrong I I again I feel better now thank you I just look I mean I felt like no but I mean look I mean having me buys you like two years okay that like that's like you bought like two years of you know inventory and so um but but but John I mean I I I I watch you periodically you're always speaking very morally clearly I think Pastor Jack hibs does a great job of being biblical and being outspoken I think he does and and I and I I try to watch Jack I watch him almost every single week but yes of course you could become too political so you watch Jack every week and me like once in a while I'm sorry it's uh I'll try to wrap that up cool I I'm you know there's only so much time in a day sorry go ahead you were saying I'm never going to be invited back so now I'm really going to turn it up we love you jack I of course I will say this thanks Mom I appreciate [Music] it I'm sorry you were saying it's okay I digress so I of course you could become too political and this is a a friend of mine wrote a book and I'm not going to say who it did CU he has a great heart and I met with him he's a well-known Theologian and he became a friend through the book because I thought the book was totally Off the Mark and he said one of the biggest problems is this rise of Christian nationalism and the way he defines it I actually tend to agree if that was the term which was like okay the nation comes more important than Jesus and you know that okay I said fine but he thinks it's this widespread contagion and I and I say no it's not you you are you are like way misdiagnosing there might be a fringe of The Fringe and I will tell you again I have I've spoke at churches across the country we have now had over 3,000 pastors pass through our training at TP USA Faith I've not praise God I have not come it's amazing I have not come across a pastor that I believe is too political I have not and and I could the evidence is this because I ask them I say tell me about the most important metric how many souls are going to heaven and they'll say well we've tripled our baptisms or quadrupled you know our attendance here in Easter okay so I mean that so I I don't find it that way I will say though John okay I I grant you there might be a church somewhere and again I will say if they are too political how have I not heard of them I just you know how have they not invited me to speak right like I just I want to find these people right I'm sure they exist somewhere the much bigger problem though John is churches that are not political enough or not political at all and let's stop this word political I I let me fix my language they're not biblical enough or they're not at all that's the true problem right and so look the there's a season for everything as it says in Ecclesiastes right so they're ramping things up in politics it makes sense to have me speak here right but you got to keep Jesus at the center and John you I I've known you for a little while and you always ask this question so well and God will give you wisdom and he'll give it to you generously right and you're going through the scriptures and it speaks clearly to a moral topic and and hey if there's a breaking news item and you feel led then you just dive into it right and that that is what it means to lead the eklesia and the Public Square uh which is what church actually means in the original Greek but the biggest problem right now in American Christianity let's not fool ourselves are pastors that do not dive into the current events and better yet they do not equip their flock to be able to read the news items and understand what does the Bible say about trans surgeries yeah what does the Bible say about immigration what does the Bible say say about uh politicians what does it say about government should we submit to government all the time is there ever a right time to rebel against government and so what I have found is if the church the flock are not getting that kind of guidance from their Church they will go get it from a secular Authority and the tragedy of modern Christianity is you have millions of people going to church every single day not being equipped with a Biblical worldview right see a biblical worldview you the best way I could put it is it is the color of which you see everything so once you get a Biblical world view taught by a good pastor like Pastor John and so on and so forth um is then you see a news item on CNN like well that doesn't harmonize with my worldview and you're trained then in the ways so you no longer need the pastor to guide you through every news item and that kind of training takes time and you have to spend time in the scriptures and you have to read the Bible every day and you have to listen to Christian music and you have to pray to God and you develop that it's a muscle set really and for new Christians it might take a year or two or three or four or five because you might still be looking at it through the secular old worldview and sometimes you need to kind of get those muscles back into action because sometimes you might be falling into kind of a secular way of thinking but the the the so many pastors will then do something even worse than that is they'll take a secular new age worldview and bring it into the church M that's right so let me give you an example yeah please is they'll come up and they'll say I don't like Donald Trump because he's not nice and so then I say find the word nice anywhere in the Bible and I will concede the the point there nowhere in the 66 books of the Bible is the word nice the word nice is from the 1900s in Latin it means stupid and so no it really does it means ignorant stupid you know and like you know oh that person's really nice you know like and how it metamorphosized into what we you know mean now now you were supposed to called to be kind loving compassion compassionate long-suffering truthful all those things are correct but they will say that you know I I can't vote for this person or I can't support this C I'm not here to make it all about Trump but I'm just using an example right or because you know I I I don't like the way that you know they they say certain things okay so you're trying to tell me that somebody's tone bothers you so much that you do not want R versus way to be repealed because if enough people thought the way you did in 2016 presidential election with Hillary Clinton we don't get Amy con Barrett Kavanaugh and Gorsuch and Row versus way is still law the land and we would not have hundreds of thousands of lives be saved so praise God we didn't think that way by the way the embassy would never have been moved to Jerusalem and Israel we wouldn't have had relative peace we had a border for a short period of time I could go on and on and on for other examples right exactly and so I I I want to make sure that pastors are not bringing these kind of secular prisms into the pulpit I love that great word Charlie I love that that's [Applause] excellent you know probably on all of our minds we've been counting down the days uh the years you've seen it I've seen it it's painful to watch we you've seen the films that exposed what happened during the election and it just fires you up even more and all the false narratives and all the fake things that come out Charlie I I know on the minds of of these uh Freedom loving people tonight is the election we were talking uh tonight before about some of the things that are going on and and what you were sharing and I was listening I I found encouraging talk about this upcoming election how important this is how critical this is and what the church can be doing to make a difference so well you know so that this doesn't happen again we got to we got to do something I I love the question and so I'm going to start unusually I I want to make sure that we all make a commitment that if this election doesn't go our way the next day we fight that's a very important thing and I I I know I I get golf Applause because a lot of people don't want to hear that they say what do you mean it doesn't go our way it has to go our way we have to win I I agree but if if your answer is no I'm not going to fight if I don't get my way then you are a summer Sunny what they called in the the Sunshine Patriot uh not ready for the winter storm and there were a lot of people by the way that were all on board for the American Revolution as long as it was 73° in sunny and as soon as they had to March through the uh the winter and fight a small poox epidemic they said forget this you know Liberty sounds nice but I I like I like the King George a lot so they kind of got out of the way so you have to commit yourself to that look I'm a big supporter of President Trump I I think he's in a great position uh I really do and I'm going to walk you through the numbers and I I hesitate I I really hesitate to say that because the mark my words put it in your phone they got something planned for us and it's going to be nasty and it will be asymmetric and so if if only elections aren't in mid-march right you know if only it wasn't the odid of March and we have elections it would be great ho H how to best unpack this John it's going to come down to a couple of States so let's go through this I I am 5050 on whether Joe Biden will be the nominee it looks like he will be the nominee but anything can change they're running out of time if they were going to do it it probably would have already been done by now you say oh it could be done after the convention that's easier said than done uh but I I con seeed the point that very well could that could be possible um it's not Trump versus Biden it's Trump versus Biden versus RFK versus Cornell West versus Jill Stein let me pivot for a second if any of you are thinking of voting for RFK stop it okay enough of this I I get I get so many messages yeah of this oh Charlie he's so handsome what he handsome crazy you know like handsome what is this I mean I vote for Gavin Newsome I guess it's not yeah people people message me all the time saying he's the most handsome politician in America I said this must be a troll right I say I think he's like ban from from Darth V from Batman or something um so the uh RFK let me talk about this for a second I had him on my program he's completely ill equipped to become president okay he's a pro-abortion don't know where he stands on trans stuff Massachusetts liberal climate change guy okay you you cannot vote for him especially if you're a Bible believing Christian and I say this because he's pulling 16% of the vote uh which is a very significant figure so it's Trump V Biden V RFK vers Cornell West vers Jill Stein very similar to the 1992 presidential election when Bill Clinton ran against Herbert Walker Herbert Walker Bush with Ross perau um and the winning candidate got 43% of the vote Bill Clinton who became president for two terms it's going to come down to a handful of States it's going to come down to Arizona Georgia and either Wisconsin Michigan or Pennsylvania so Georgia the Biden campaign is feeling uh uh let's just say continually very bad about Georgia which is a good sign they're very uh bearish on the state of Georgia so they're pulling out of Georgia go to Arizona uh that's where we're headquartered it's where I live um I don't want to make any big proclamations our voting systems are so screwed up in Arizona it is going to be a knife fight it's going to be a battle uh to The Bitter End that thing is going to come down to ,000 votes 6,000 votes at Turning Point action uh we are hiring the largest ballot chasing Army in the history of Republican gov politics awesome we are hiring over 350 full-time people it is a massive Endeavor somebody asked me earlier they said how many people work for you right now I said well 500 soon to be 800 she said congratulations I said you mean your condolences uh hiring that many people is not easy as any of you that have run big businesses know vetting all that sort of stuff so keep us in prayer praise God uh we've raised a fair amount of resources to pay for it we could always use more uh not here to ask you guys for money um I will ask you for prayer but not money um but the Lord has really blessed us financially to be able to get out of the gate uh we're also doing something similar in Wisconsin over 150 people were hiring in the state of Wisconsin so it's all going to I if you were to say what does it come down to um it comes down to Joe Biden has to win all three of what is called the blue wall Donald Trump has to win one out of the blue wall and that's it if Donald Trump wins one out of the blue wall he's president of the United States if he wins Arizona and Georgia so it is Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania do you want me to keep going on this granularity okay I I do anybody else all okay helpful thank you okay so let's start with the one that I'm the least excited about which is Pennsylvania uh Pennsylvania is incredibly crooked John fedman should not be a US senator um even though he's coming mysteriously right-wing in like recent months it's very strange but he he's he's he's still he's still a Democrat and they have mass male in voting very crooked voting laws Philadelphia is an awful City I mean Philadelphia is like LA but just a little smaller as far as how corrupt it is how backward it is New Jersey is right across the the border and they have tons of crooked activity there so Pennsylvania will be very tough so then Michigan Michigan I would be very bearish on uh but God works in mysterious ways this uh Israel uh Gaza war is really causing problems for the Democrats if a 100,000 Arab Muslims in Michigan decide to vote unaffiliated or not vote for the Democrat Party Donald Trump could win the state of Michigan he does very very well in Michigan especially with the muscular Class Auto Workers Wayne County mome County he has a special attachment to the state of Michigan so that that's that's still a tougher shot but more achievable than Pennsylvania then in our opinion it's all going to come down to Wisconsin uh we think Wisconsin is the most winnable of those three it has um poor voting laws but the best of the three voting laws because election Integrity I don't know if you guys agree is like my number one issue we need to secure our elections I think it is so incredibly important and something that I got involved in very heavily and we paid a personal price they came after my family they came after me personally we went and we were successful amongst other people to get R mcromney to resign from the RNC and we were successful in that regard and so there is a far improved regime now uh Laura Trump is doing a great job she's terrific and I think very highly of her there's still some problems there but it is much it is far better than it was uh even a month ago and so at Turning Point action we really made it kind of our Obsession to try to get RNC regime change and uh we got what we wanted which was really great we wanted it for the country it was not some sort of petty grievance it's just that that regime was not going to bring us forth Victory so it's going to come down to Wisconsin uh if you go back to the 2020 election uh Donald Trump fell 21,000 votes short in the state of Wisconsin and so every single ballot every single voter is going to come down to it so if the election was how I think it's going to come down in uh November is this I think that Georgia and Arizona at the current Trend we should be if we do the work okay Arizona again I don't want to make any huge predictions it's so crooked after they did carry Lake I'm not going to overly predict but we have to do our work I I'll tell you we have not done the necessary work in Wisconsin yet we are behind uh they have ton they have over 2,000 full-time Democrats on the ground in Wisconsin uh doing this work chasing ballots registering voters and it's going to come down to that and it's a big mystery of how the third party candidates are going to play into it and uh so we we have a lot of work to do it's going to be it's going to be a very tough uh 7 to 8 months for those of us that are really involved in this and make sure I hope you guys understand this and I think you do this is a spiritual war first and foremost there are demons that are at work trying the amount of asymmetric uh just say inexplicable nonsense that has happened to us and our team in the last 30 days the only explanation is demonic and that from the occult and and we know it because we are on The Cutting Edge we have the largest staff that is doing this we have the most dedicated team the hardest working people we're go go go almost no time off now till uh when ballots are counted in November um but you know we live for this John you know the Lord has blessed us with an incredible platform with millions of followers over 300,000 people now give us money uh as small dollar donations which is an amazing thing and uh we've been saying for a long time lord use us kind of our uh mantra for the 2024 year is Hanan here I am uh which is used seven times throughout the Old Testament most famously of course with The Binding of Isaac uh in the Book of Genesis with Abraham and Isaac but also uh with uh Moses when he sees the burning bush here I am uh Samuel the call of Samuel here I am and it's this idea of Lord use me and that is what should the mantra for all of us should be as the kind of core Focus which is Lord use me how can you use me for your purposes to advance the kingdom of God here on Earth and so it's a full court press now the November yeah amen oh that's great I love that wow so thankful so thankful for the the work that you're doing and and all your efforts encourage you folks if you believe in what's going on and uh to become a supporter and I know you don't ask for money and we're not asking for money we' never do that either but if if you believe in it and and you uh feel the Lord leading I'd encourage you to consider that I think it'd be a real blessing obviously a great blessing what you're doing also want to say you know as we talk about coming down to voting this is a question you and I dialog a a little bit about this before but why do self-proclaimed Christians vote for candidates who are in opposition to a Biblical worldview follow-up question can you be a Democrat and still hold Christian values this for Charlie by the way just so thank you for answering um and I I've said this before and I want to make sure I'm very clear with my language okay appreciate that I I if you cannot in my personal opinion be a true born again Christian and vote Democrat in 2024 and and and highlight why that is it's easy to say that but like break drill down on that a little bit for us so you know CU that I want to be clear that doesn't mean you vote Republican you're a Christian okay let's just be clear that that's not the inverse is not true I'm making a statement of fact so why is that the case so a vote is your proxy your statement to the state that these are my values this is what I believe okay this is how we have to educate voting so everything you do is watched and judged by God and everything you do should be to the glory of God okay so everything you do from what you eat for who you marry everything how you talk and when you vote it's not insignificant because as you vote it is your communication saying I as The Sovereign are now giving you power so it's a transfer of power you might not have thought it that way when you fill out your ballot it's a transfer of power so you're basically saying I want you to do what I would best do in that position the best fit and the best mold you can there'll never be 100% fit but if you say I am a Christian and I would do what you do you're basically saying at the best I'm indifferent but in the current Democrat Party they're not indifferent they are celebratory of a million abortions a year camela Harris visited a child sacrificing Center this last week called Planned Parenthood the first vice president or president ever to visit an abortion clinic disg it is beyond disgusting that alone should say okay you're a b you're you're a you're a born again Christian and you're going to vote for the political party that sends a vice president to an abortion clinic so let me just kind of go through three very simple and I could go even deeper I could go 10 I could go 20 I could go 30 but three irrefutable bulletproof contrast items between the Democrat Party and the Republican party that are recent they are biblical and they are clear and you can use them with your friends okay God created men and women male and female the Republican Party holds that as a core pillar of their party the Democrat party does not believe that they believe that gender is infinite that you could change your gender and in fact we should teach your children that and that they can get irreversible Damage Done to them and pharmacological agents and that the transgender craze if you oppose it you're a hater and that you are a terrible person God created man and woman that's number one number two of course the life issue the Republican Party in the pillar of the platform is a pro-life party is a party more than times than not the people you send to congress the people you send to the Senate the people that you send to the presidency are fighting for The Unborn are they as pro-life as I would like them to be no but they are still fighting in the advancement of pro-life policies defunding Planned Parenthood pro-life judges constitutional judges that's number two the Democrat Party celebrates abortion as if it is a moral good number three the church can never be called nonessential again the Democrat Party went around the country and locked down church after church after church so those three things the Republican party was against lockdowns was in favor of the church never being called non-essential and so if you're a Christian and say I am voting for the Democrat Party you are then saying I want a resurrection of the Pagan God of Molech to come back to America the Pagan God of child sacrifice and I know that might be too intense for some of you to hear how is it any different that what the Aztecs did on the top of a temple when they drove a stake through a child's heart than what planned parented does every single day how many abortions do you think there are in America every day there are 3,000 abortions in America every single day and we're just supposed to be indifferent like oh you know allow people to make whatever choices they want you know uh it's not murder it's just the female's Choice I'm not going to subscribe to that political movement as soon as the political movement no refuses to be pro-life I'm going to go start a new one I I will not allow the Republican party to not be a prif movement ever and you shouldn't either and that's why you should stay engaged and stay involved at every single Cor every turn and so and the final thing I'll say though is just look at through the fruit and this is a little bit of a deeper argument but I think you'll resonate with this is that God is a god of stability order and distinction those are three our God is a god of order stability and distinction Satan by definition is an agent of chaos deception confusion and turmoil John 10:10 the enemy has come to lie steal cheat and Destroy I Christ Jesus have come to give life and life more abundantly in the last four years of living under this Biden garbage we have seen this country go in the direction of chaos of tumult of of being upended from within and so some people say but Charlie what do the Democrats want they want full and complete destruction of the United States of America they do not want a better country they do not want you to live in a better tomorrow they want to overwhelm the system and radically transform it as Barack Obama said is one of the last things he said before he got elected president we are only a few days away from fundamentally transforming this country let me ask you a question do you fundamentally transform that which you love do you turn to your wife and say I can't wait to fundamentally transform you you conserve that which you love that is why we call ourselves conservatives because we have gratitude and love for this country that we did not build but we inherited thanks to the grace and the glory of God they want to destroy it it is a harder message to say stop no don't do that stop no don't do that no you don't get free stuff wake up earlier stop doing weed no hands off your kids but it is the moral and the righteous political movement to be on the side of so to answer your question no if you vote Democrat as a Christian I think you can you can no longer call yourself a Christian you have to call yourself something else I do not think you could be a Christian and vote Democrat thank you for the [Applause] [Music] answer so listen you got Democrat friends claiming to be Christians pray for them witness to them graciously don't go into the office tomorrow you Pagan Molech worshiping Heathen dog you need to Fall on Your Knees or maybe if it works with some people but but listen you need to like that's a great point just yeah and I know and I I appreciate your um you know this this is the Pastoral side of uh hey love Jesus love your neighbor as yourself but if you love him then tell them the truth right tell them the truth speak the truth in love but speak the truth the world wants you to say hey just love everybody it's all inclusive if you really love people you tell them the truth if you don't love them you'll lie to them they're lied to all the time you tell them the truth and that's going to make the difference so with love you know Charlie we're almost out of time but hey one of the things that that came up by way of question and people send us questions and what do you think and I love the fact that you are um reaching young people you if You' never seen what Charlie does on the college campuses YouTube it check it out I look at him and I think oh I mean he sets up this card table and he just lets people just just say all kinds of vile things in his face and he just keeps it together I'm like like I don't I could not I'd be like come here you know he just sits there and takes it and I'm like I I'm I'm like wow I said Michelle look at this look at look at what this kid's saying cover for your ears on that part and he just graciously does it and it's like drop the mic and they like they just walk away like they don't know what to say and um I appreciate that about you and my question is this and that's really how I heard about Charlie if you didn't know this he's actually my my second favorite Charlie my first Charlie is uh my grandson uh he's also Charlie James Charlie James we just found that out today same name but anyways what do you think is the single biggest issue affecting this next Generation Charlie I love it and just just so we're clear if it wasn't for Jesus Christ I would get very upset at all these people that come and scream at me it is evidence of the Holy Spirit and being transformed from within cuz that is not my that is not my nature yeah that is not my nature it is not um but it is one of the fruits of the spirit love joy peace patience kindness goodness gentleness and I'm forgetting when than self-control um so self-control uh is uh a fruit of the spirit so praise God yeah so we only have a couple minutes for this here's the best way I can answer that question the biggest problem that young people are facing is they are the first generation to inherit a secular America and not a Christian America and and that is a we could do a whole hour speech on that yeah and I was the last gasp I was born in 1993 and I was raised in like the last moment of Christian America and we are no longer in a Christian country uh we are no longer the dominant view we are now a minority view in this country we still have plenty of following and buildings and you know uh let's just say membership for lack of a better term uh but we were always told that that Christianity was the problem and that moderation and secularism is the answer and just look look how wrong that was but I'll be honest who is to blame for that it was apathetic Christians that allowed America to become secular is that we almost bought the lie and it was a think about how ferocious of a propaganda campaign it was it was movie after movie that portrayed Christians as hypocritical and they cheat on their wife and they're money grubbing and they're and you think about the archetype that was always painted in mass media and in culture and outside of the obvious moral failings of individuals let's talk about Society we now live in the most young people are the most depressed suicidal alcohol addicted generation in history and they are the least religious generation in history but I will close with this on this thought John I do think it's starting to change and there was this profound moment and I've been tracking this and I know some of you may or may not listen to Joe Rogan I I actually really like him and he there's been a big there's been a big change in some of his public commentary recently he recently had my friend James Lindsay on the program who I think is amazing and at the end of the podcast three-hour podcast my friend Patrice listened to it too there's too much swearing they swear the whole podcast it drives me nuts I can't stand swearing I don't like being around swearing I think swearing is intellectually lazy and sloppy I don't like it at all um and so if you're swearing you should stop swearing I have a whole theory on that um no I have a theory on it because if you can't control your tongue you can't control your flesh so if you can't that it's that simple and so um discipline your language you'll Discipline Your Action okay so that's there that's my whole speech um on that but all of a sudden at the end James The Joe Rogan who is known as quote and like quote unquote as like a cool guy secular atheist and James Lindsay who used to be a leader who's again is one of my best friends a leader of the new atheist movement he asks James Lindsay were you ever wrong about something and James Lindsay said you know I was wrong thinking that religious people were all these kind of goofy superstitious ones and that religion was just a bunch of fairy tales and he's like I don't think it's a good thing how secular this country has become and Joe Rogan interjects and I'm paraphrasing he's like yeah I agree it's like we we we need some sort of a moral Center in this country we need something now that's not them giving the life to the Lord yet but you're starting to see people who love truth realize the implications and the necessity of God in this culture and I have found on campus that it is far more effective to argue the necessity of God's existence than anything else of what is going to replace God if you're just going to there's no such thing as an atheist it something will fill that void that's right the lgbtq god the pleasure God the money God the anti- racism God the Earth worshiping Pagan God something will fill that void something will fill that and so my advice to the Next Generation Um is you know Embrace tradition wind back the clock go back to how actually people talked in the 1950s and 60s you're not allowed to say that oh you're a racist okay there were actually some good things in the 50s and 60s like people were way more polite and we less people had autism and you know I don't know uh it was like a more decent country and people were like they knew who their neighbor was and it wasn't like a crazy thing to like walk into a neighbor's house and like how you doing I haven't heard from you in a little bit can I make you a meal and we don't even talk to our neighbors like kids used to go out and play now they go and look at their phone all day long I kind of miss that country I don't know about you like I don't think it was all just like bitterness and resentment I think it was kind of cool when like kids walked to class and they had a firearm around their back like I think it was kind of cool was actually taught responsibility it's like that's a weapon you better teach you take it seriously we didn't have school shootings back then by the way people brought guns to school put them in a locker it's funny how we had more guns around and there were less school shootings like we didn't have a bunch of kids on Benz aapan and Zola and Prozac Zola and Prozac and ssris and we didn't have the suicide epidemic it was a better country in some ways some ways it wasn't obviously we needed some adjustments to federal law against discrimination but this kind of like whitewashing that our country was so evil and terrible in the 50s 60s and70s I think it's actually created a fake reality and I think the the smart young people want to go back to embrace tradition they want to go back to that kind of country they want to go back to the country of private property ownership and having kids and getting traditionally married and going to church and you know I don't know opening doors for women and not believing men can give birth and not having to use pronouns in some sort of stupid HR Terror naazi campaign where they like indoctrinate you cuz you work for Goldman sax and you work you know use the wrong pronoun they're going to fire you like I don't I don't I don't like that country I don't like the direction that's going and so um I pray we can have a restoration of that of the the the once the once um rooted moral Center and I'm seeing a lot of Hope for it John I am uh I don't see a majority yet but I see a Remnant that is ready to fight I see a Remnant that is Awakening uh I will say that we've been doing this campus tour for quite a while we cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our campus events we literally can't praise God and I am I am as blunt and as forthright on the gospel and on everything then as I am now there's no like campus Charlie and church Charlie it's just Charlie um it's just across the board uh tomorrow I'll be on campus at San Diego State University and you know we'll probably draw 7 800 900 kids just passing by that want to have conversations and talk the support is greater than you could ever imagine everybody and so to answer your question John we have a generation that is drowning in the excesses of secular paganism and only Jesus Christ and Christianity is the answer I pray we can throw him that life on amen amen can I do more announ before do that please yeah um one other thing uh when we're going to wrap uh this up I um uh and and that is uh Charlie is as how can we first of all how can we be praying for you and then um I'm going to ask your pastor who's here tonight good good friend of mine to come up and pray for you and we're going to pray together man you're going to go you're going to sail onto the campus tomorrow brother you're going to like the prayers are just going to and you're going to be backed up and we're going to be praying for you how can we be praying for you and your team yeah thank you for that um honestly it's uh you know Paul talks a lot about running the race um we have not stopped as an organization we've been super blessed but since Mike Pence took the stage and he announced 15 days to slow the spread it has been four years of I feel as if we have been going like 95 miles an hour and like the engine is overheating if that makes sense I I I don't have a choice I I don't have the luxury of like oh you know I I I I love you know the Christian family you know some of these people Charlie why don't you go take a month sabatical like yeah not happening this year um you know I you have to wheelchair me there okay I I'll take I'll take a sabatical from the emergency room like I am not I have not in my personal opinion I've not done what I've have done these last years out of obedience to God to sew into this to not see this fight through right uh I haven't and let me be clear a sabatical is awfully attractive right now right uh I mean it has been you know 330 speeches a year three hours of radio a day three hours of podcasting a day managing 500 employees I'm not saying this to have anyone feel sorry for me but you know it's a heavy burden at times especially with the spiritual so if you guys could just pray for us you know on a regular basis engage in that um fast for us where appropriate that's way better than money you know the Lord has blessed us with money and he can he will continue to um that's really where we could use the biggest help and then one other way that you guys can help is some of you guys are already there and following us on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page it does help us a lot we're under constant attack by the big tech companies if you guys aren't already subscribed you could take out your phone um And subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page um I think they have a Graphic or something they throw up um and helps us a lot we do three podc