Charlie Kirk Explains Why Young Men Are Leading America's Conservative Revival and What the Church Must Do Next

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country, Turning Point USA. Turning Point founder, CEO, Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's the founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and the author of the new book, The College Scam. Political organizer Charlie Kirk, drawing a big crowd at Cal State Northridge today, both supporters and protesters. Our own founders spoke negatively about democracy in our federalist papers because God wrote this on the human heart of every individual. As it says in the book of Romans, we know deep down it's wrong to murder a baby. In our scriptures, it does say that we should bless the Jews. Genesis 12:3, I will bless those descendants that bless me. And we have a covenant with Israel. 66 different books all came to the same conclusion that God loves us so much that he sent his son on a rescue mission to save us from our broken nature so that we can live forever. Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA. I talked to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media. We at Turning Point Action try to figure out we need to turn supporters into voters. By the way, anyone out there, you guys should get involved with Turning Point USA. We are moving the dial. We are bringing this generation to the finish line to be a conservative generation. I I got to tell you, I'm a little bit jealous. You have the entire House of Representatives denouncing you. How did you get to be so lucky? It is just a delicious ending. We as Christians called to go into the public arena to correct error with truth. [Music] [Applause] Oh, you can be seated. Awesome. Well, Charlie, welcome again. But I uh I kind of assume a little bit that this might be uh SoCal home for you, huh? Oh, I first I I love being here. Uh and it has been quite a journey these last couple of years. Last time I was in California, I was on your governor's podcast and Oh, man. Did you How many of you saw Oh, look at that. Yep. That That's That's a lot That's a lot of ratings for him. That's a lot lot of Yes. Yes. But wait, can I do something? Charlie, right now, Jack. Jack, you're doing it all. How Oh, that's it. And then what did what do you think those meant? was like Steel Home or Slide. Did you guys If you saw it, do you know what we're talking about? Quite amazing. If you did not see that podcast, you've got to see it. But don't watch it at Gavin Newsome's site, Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. Don't give him the Don't give him the downloads. There you go. There you go. Okay, let's jump right into this. The scriptures tell us in first Peter that we are to be ready to always give an answer to those who ask of us a reason for the hope that we have. And we're to respond to them with respect and um with courtesy. And God has anointed you to not only be a keen intellect, but to be a a a warrior of faith that Charlie, we've not seen in the American landscape in a long time. And this is a very special thing that God has given you. And so what I'd like to ask you to get things going first is to explain to us um what you're saying and maybe why you're saying why are you saying and what are you seeing on the university campuses where you show up and tens of thousands of people gather. What is going on? I it's it's remarkable and first of all glory be to God. Uh truly that first and foremost. And Jack, you've been a phenomenal teacher for me and mentor for me. Isn't Jack the best? He's just unbelievable to give me that confidence and that clarity to go into the lion's den and go to college campuses all across the country. Let's kind of go back and talk about what we saw during the election. And let's go even further back than that. We did a happening. Now everybody, some of you might have been there on January 21st, 2021. That was the day after Biden got installed as president of the United States. And we're going to go back to that later in the discussion because I think there's a really beautiful lesson there. But after we were displaced from power at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, we we thought and our hypothesis was what if we did everything we possibly can through digital social media, campus outreach to try to turn this generation away from a predominantly left-wing one into the most conservative generation in American history. It's quite a statement, quite an ambitious plan. And we went about doing it. And for years, people thought that we were wasting our time, that it was not a good use of our energy or resources. And as you know, I I visited hundreds of college campuses. Turning point USA was doing the difficult work every single day, starting high school chapters, starting college chapters. I think we have some of our uh Turning Point leaders here tonight. And as we continue to do that work, we started to realize a trend in late 2022 and early 2023. We saw the crowds get a little bit bigger and we saw an attitude especially of young men that wanted nothing to do with the Democrat party and were increasingly open towards President Trump, conservatism, Republican party and yes, even Christianity. And so we said, "Wait a second. The conventional wisdom when you run a political campaign is you always just run to the middle. you run to the moderates and you try to water down your positions because you need to go win over swing voters. That can work. Or you can create more voters and find more voters that are already people that are in your criteria because one out of three Americans don't vote at all. And what if we find those people and register them to vote and bring them into our ecosystem and bring them into our ranks? And so we went about the most ambitious youth outreach program in the history of conservative politics in the history of Republican politics. And I I personally visited well over a 100 campuses over a course of a year. Many of you saw these videos that I would do online where I would try to enlighten the next generation about certain topics, ideas, whatever was on their mind. And these videos had over two and a half billion views over nine months on Tik Tok, on Instagram, on Utah. YouTube, praise the Lord. And the all of a sudden these crowds went from a couple hundred people to 3,000 people to 4,000. And we're talking in the middle of the day on a college campus in some of the most liberal campuses across the country, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 people. And the media was completely ignoring it. And I was like, that's fine. If you don't want to adjust and if you guys want to just ignore the greatest, most substantial unexpected generational realignment happening in the history of American politics, go ahead and ignore it. And the results and the data started to come in. And can we all just enjoy for a second that beautiful evening in November when President Trump won back the White House? It was just the the Stacy brothers said it to me earlier. Great family. They said the air just tasted better the next morning. Right. Yeah. Your food had taste again. It was the the music made sense on the radio. Everything was just tasted sweeter. What's amazing about what you just said, if people don't understand this, the scripture says in Proverbs 29 that when the wicked are in power, the people groan. It's a blanket of of depression. It's a blanket of hopelessness. But that verse goes on to say, "But when the righteous are in power, people rejoice." And and here's the thing. People would say, "Oh my goodness, wait a minute. What how can that possibly be applied to politics?" Don't worry about it. We're not saying that Donald Trump is righteous or any other leader is righteous in the sense that you might be thinking the word simply means that those who do the right thing, the response is people are are lighthearted. They're the weight is lifted from them. And and you're watching right now where even today we saw in the news where Trump is moving now to defund uh Planned Parenthood. Babies babies will be saved. So ma major news. And so ju just to summarize it, we saw the results come in and all of a sudden the exit poll showed that younger voters moved substantially to the right. So much so that all Kla Harris had to do was perform the same with younger voters as Joe Biden did in 2020. And I'm going to say some things here that are very hopeful, but also should give some people in this audience a little bit of a dose of generational humility. Do you know that your 20-year-old grandson is far more conservative than your average 75year-old? Yes. Is far more. And it's not even close. A young man is like 10 points more conservative than your average 75year-old white voter. There's many reasons for this. And by the way, some people get offended. Some baby boomers say, "No, that's not true. You guys should be rejoicing in the fact that the next generation is even more conservative than the older generation." So don't get too defensive. But let let's talk about why this is, and then I'm going to go into some numbers. The why is critical. These young people here in front of you are one of the most abused generations, if not the most abused generation history. We masked them unnecessarily, told them to get an experimental mRNA shot that they did not need. We canled prom and graduation, locked them into their homes away from all of their peers. We printed trillions of dollars we did not need and flooded the housing market with it, nearly doubling housing prices. We told them to go into debt to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist. To only flood them further into our cities filled with homelessness, vagrancy, arson, crime, all to say, "Hey, it's okay that you will not own anything. You will rent for the rest of your life and you will be happy doing substances, staying drunk, ordering Door Dash, and keep on voting for the Democrat party because that's all there is in life. And don't get married. Just become some sort of corporate hack for a faceless company. don't have kids, but get a bunch of cats. I am a Democrat and I approve this message. And let me go a step further. This generation here is the first generation in history that is not keeping on pace with their parents. Not even the great depression generation, the greatest generation can say that. Every number shows that this generation is more suicidal. They're more drug addicted. They're more anxious. They're more addicted to pharmarmacological substances. They're more addicted to screens. They have less friends, less likely to date, less likely to have kids. We have a childless problem in the West where we are having a population collapse. Meanwhile, baby boomers, many of you have seen your wealth actually go up since co. Your houses are worth more. Your 401k is worth more. You might say, "Well, inflation is crushing me." It might be hurting you if you're 60 or 70, but if you own a home, you have something that most young people will never have. If you own stocks and you don't you're not 50, 60, $70,000 in debt, you have something that you're the next generation is not going to have. It is a breakdown of the social compact. And so what President Trump embodied was a fullthroated cultural rebellion against all the institutions of power that robbed their future. that robbed their future and lied to them in every corner. And what we were able to do alongside the Trump campaign at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action is make the case that the next generation deserves the same country that your parents have and that these institutions that Kla Harris largely embodied are not worthy of your trust. That it is not worthy of your trust. The very same people that want to go spend $300 billion on a war in Ukraine while we're being invaded on our southern border should not be taken seriously when they want to continue to ask for more of our tax money. They should not be taken seriously. And so politically, we are living through this realignment where the younger you are, especially a younger male, the more conservative you are. And the Democrat party has said this, Ezra Klein and David Shore, two very sophisticated lefties. This is potentially, everybody, an extinction event for the Democrat party. This could turn, if this continues, this could turn California into a red state. And I'm not saying that. I'm not kidding. If you think about it, we have done pretty well in elections the last 20 or 30 years under the idea that the younger you are, the more liberal you are, and the older you are, the more conservative you are. Imagine if that all of a sudden gets inverted. That if they start pretty conservative when they're 19, how conservative will they be when they're 30? when they own a home and they have kids, yes, they will become even more conservative and resisting of whatever left-wing lie or promise of the Democrat party. And so to play this out even further, when we are now are visiting these college campuses, we are noticing that especially young men are gravitating towards this broader cultural realignment. But it is at its core spiritual and and that is why I love what Jack talks about because this is not just about politics. Politics is a means to an end so that we can live in a free society for liberty because liberty is not man's idea. It is God's idea. And God wants us to live free. John 10:10. Where there is the spirit of the Lord, there is liberty. We see right now that the Democrat party is the embodiment of every ancient pagan idea that the Bible was written to refute and that we we challenge all throughout the scriptures. Christianity believes in all of the ideas that we are espousing on these college campuses. And so my message right now is that I think we are on the precipice of a national revival led primarily by young people. And you know what happened in Costa Mesa as you mentioned it is bottom up. It is the kids that lead these national revivals. That's right. But here is my fear. My fear is that most of the American church is completely uninterested. That's right. In this moment. That's right. And let me build this out further if that's okay, Jack. Absolutely. Why is it that young men are leading the charge? By the way, we should be so pleased that it's young men because young men will lead the culture and the women will follow. Okay. It is a great sign. There are many reasons for this, but the primary one is that God made men and women different. We know that. And in the state of nature, young men don't like taking orders from women. Now, you can laugh about that, but every single mom knows this is a serious problem. No, it is. And by the way, it's not it's it's a laughing matter, but single moms, God bless them, your modern-day heroes. You deserve better than a husband that abandoned you or a partner that abandoned you. But when you have a teenage son, it is very hard to discipline a 17-year-old boy if you just have a mom in the house. That's why dads need to come in to restore order and structure and discipline because moms struggle with that. Okay. Well, politics is the administration of order and discipline. That's right. It is rules for life. So, the Democrat party has become toxically feminine. Now, understand my heart when I say this that I'm not saying that all women are necessarily toxic. I'm saying though Hillary Clinton and Kla Harris Not exactly great embodiment of biblical femininity, right? More like Jezebel than Esther. Cool. Got it. So, the Democrat party of the last three nominees, two of the three of them were toxically feminine and one was comeomaosse, right? So, not exactly a sign of strength. Understand that. What is so exciting about our political moment, everybody, is that we are so race obsessed over the last five years. It drives me nuts. I'm sick and tired of looking at black and white. That doesn't mean anything to God. But do you know a distinction that God actually does care about? Male female distinctions. Actually, God does care about because he designed them. That's right. And our politics are increasingly gravitating towards male female distinctions a lot less than white black distinctions. This is why you are seeing the muscular class of young Hispanics and young blacks come more to the Republican party because they don't want to take orders from a political party that is screeching at them filled with unhappy women. It's not a popular agenda. And what do these are? These are individuals that live in the Democrat party primarily to try and tell you what to do and how to do it. Even worse than that, they will go to young men and say that you are the problem for merely existing. Yes. that you are a toxic man, that you can't use those pronouns, that you have to stop being so politically correct, that you have to apologize for your existence, that it's toxic masculinity, that we have all these problems. And then what you end up having is a 20-year-old. He decided not to go to college, so he's not in debt. He's not being indoctrinated, but he's driving Amazon trucks to just make ends meet. He's the one that made sure you got all of your delivery packages, by the way, during CO. He's the one that showers before work and showers after work. And everyone is talking about the Democrat party about climate change and threat of democracy and, you know, the boss babe culture. By the way, I educated Jack on what a boss babe was today, just so you know. He had no idea, right? And this 20-year-old Amazon truck driver scrolls through his Tik Tok feed and sees a Matt Walsh video or a Charlie Kirk video and is talking about how men need to be men and restore order to society. And it doesn't matter that that guy's last name is Sanchez or that he's black driving the truck. He says, "You know what? The Democrat party doesn't represent me and I stand with the person that the toxically feminists hate the most, Donald Trump, because he's the alpha male that stands in the way of all of their play. So, it's amazing to uh as Charlie was speaking, uh when you look back, somebody might say, "Well, wow, this is this is amazing or this is terrible. How can this be going on?" Well, let me give you a little bit of a quick American uh history lesson. If you would take tonight and go back 270 years ago, this would be normal. If you've ever read or uh taken the time to look at the sermons of the colonial pastors and preachers of that era, this is exactly what they talked about when it came to the issues of everyday life and the things that the culture was having to battle. And so the scriptures, as I read a moment ago, speaks truth to all issues. When somebody says, and we hear it all the time, that Christians shouldn't get involved in politics. Well, notice who's saying that. The people that are saying that are people who don't want any competition regarding their ideas. Someone's idea is going to win the day. And it most often happens when someone shows up to the fight, so to speak, right? If you don't engage, someone will. And there is no real void because voids are always filled. So the the woke ideology would say, you guys need to keep your mouth shut, sit down, don't vote, and do your little Christian thing on Sunday. Just stay out of the way. After all, it is politics, you know, and there's a wall of separation there. So we got it from here. Isn't it amazing? We all pay the same taxes. The Democrat, the Republican pays the taxes, but the Democrat says they're the only ones that are qualified to have a voice to the issue. Think about that. Well, what about Christians? Do Christians pay taxes? I bet you Christians pay taxes more than most people because they're more honest about it. Don't we have a voice? Our founding fathers said, "Yes, you do." And so it's always volatile and it's designed this way for every culture in every moment just like tonight to go and hit the issues face on head on because this is exactly what's happening in our culture today where our kids are no longer learning the things that they need or they should be learning in universities and in high schools. Instead, they're being indoctrinated with political ideologies that you're paying the professor. Instead of teaching your kid medicine, they're telling your kid about Trump or about this or about the other or conservatives and people, if we don't speak up, this is going to continue. Thank God that people are speaking up and things are happening. Young people have a voice now. And this voice I'd love for you to tell us the I don't know how else to say it. The the tick tock generation how the vote the recent vote was affected so much by this. Yeah. And so this is a great example of something that the enemy was going to use for evil and we used for good. Uh I' I've never I was never a fan of Tik Tok at all. I actually wanted to see it banned, but I also saw its incredible power. And so, Congress passed a a bill, banned it. I sent out a tweet saying, "Hey, Tik Tok, you guys are really for free speech. Can you let me speak because you guys have banned me 25 times in the last week?" And they reached out. They were really pleasant. Yep, we're all for free speech. We're going to give you a fair hearing. And boy, did we take advantage of that. And here's the key, everybody. and the Democrat party unintentionally misread how people are consuming information. Now, understand what is the other difference between a 20-year-old man who ends up being more conservative than his 75-year-old grandfather. Well, the 75-year-old grandfather is probably getting news from either the newspaper or from ABC or NBC or cable news or the white noise machine, which is I call cable news. It's just kind of drones on. whereas his 20-year-old grandson is getting news from Instagram, Tik Tok, X, YouTube. Now, which one will actually lead you to be more conservative? Well, it used to be that it would be if you were watching cable news, you'd get more conservative. No, no, no. Now, because when we had our back against the wall, when Joe Biden became president and it looked as if our country was dead and over, a new generation of truth tellers rose up. We built platforms. We got creative. We built an audience. We dug in. We understood what people wanted. And we pursued truth no matter the cost. And not all of us were Christians, but some were like Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was big. But remember during COVID, he stood up for Ivormectton and CNN changed the color of his skin and slandered him. A radicalizing event for Joe Rogan. People like Russell Brand, people like Matt Walsh, people like Theo Vaughn, people you might not know who these individuals are. If you don't, that's okay. But let me tell you, just the ones I just mentioned have a a much greater combined daily audience than what CNN will get in an entire year. And if you remove how people watch CNN and airports, it would be what CNN has for the last 20 years, right? And so the way people are consuming information is completely different. And I also tell this for churches and Jack is on the cutting edge of this with real life and with what he's doing with Jack Hibs podcast is that it's not enough just to buy radio time for your ministry anymore to reach the next generation. It's in 20 or 30 second sound bites. They're receiving it on social media. So this election, the Democrat party, they took for granted black voters, Hispanics, and younger voters. They said, "No way will this this these groups ever leave us. No way will they ever walk away from the hold that we have on them. Well, you know what ended up happening? Younger voters moved 13 points in President Trump's direction. 13 points. The greatest move of any generation where baby boomers, they actually moved two points in Kla Harris's direction. Baby boomers are becoming more democratic. Now, let me tell you an another reason as to why this is, and I see this all the time. An average 75 or 80 year old voter not everyone in this audience this is general okay are high trust of institutions they will they don't love the talk of hey our FBI our CIA our CDC our FDA fizer Astrogenica Madna Johnson and Johnson Eli Lenny big food big soda they're all poisoning us lying to us and they're all working together to make us sicker less happy and more depressed that message for a 75year-old y old voter, they say, "No, no, hold on, no, no, no, no, no." They say, "Wait, they they can't take it." And, by the way, if I'm offending when I'm saying this, I don't mean to offend you. It's just the truth. The the data shows this, okay? They will say, "No, no. Maybe we need some reform, but come on. You're trying to tell me that we're poisoning our kids. We're a great country. We'd never do that. Go take the vaccine." No, no, you laugh, but the older you are still, you think that there was nothing wrong with the CO shot. Okay. the older you are. So 75 plus, over 80% of people over 75 think there's nothing wrong with this co shot. Okay? If you go down to like 40 year olds, like 70% think there's something wrong with the CO shot. You go down to like 25 year olds, like 80% are like this thing is actively giving us myocarditis and pericarditis and kids are dropping dead and we got blood clots. However, the older you are, you almost create a veil. I don't want to say of ignorance. I it sounds mean but it really is a veil of blindness where it's like they grew up in a country baby boomers that was a great country and they almost look at our institutions as an extension of the greatness that they were raised in and when you start you know listing off our military is broken and woke and we can't land airplanes anymore and we have DEI throughout air traffic control and our border is wide open it's almost like institution utional sensory overload. Yeah. And then they turn on CNN because like, okay, it makes me feel better because they actually maybe the world is not falling apart and it's okay. Whereas a 20-year-old says, "No, it's even worse than that. I can't own anything. I'm in debt and we need a revolution." Older voters are actually very reluctant to revolutionary talk. Yeah. Charlie, one thing and I think you t you mentioned it without saying this word. The older you get now I believe this is without Jesus. If this should not be happening to an older person if you have Jesus and that is fear. When you get older the book of proverbs warns us that we as we get older we we we tremble and we're fearful. The Proverbs tell us about in Ecclesiastes as well that we we hear the cricket cricket at night and we're wondering what that was. When you get older, you don't want any changes. Keep it the same. And and then to think about what Charlie just said. It's almost like, wait a minute, you're telling me that I paid into these institutions for all of these decades of my life, and you're telling me they're broken? That scares me, and I can't handle that. Look, you guys, we never Whatever you think about Donald Trump, you think about Donald Trump. But there's one thing we all have to agree on. We didn't even know that there was a swamp. We didn't even know that there was a deep state. None of us knew this until this guy comes along and says, "There's a deep state." And we're going, "What a nut. What is he talking about?" And it was true. And all of this stuff, you know, it's bizarre, isn't it? that if you were God and you're going to pick somebody to restore or return, watch this, to return a nation back to its origin or its roots. Watch this. Have you read your Bibles? God used some of the strangest people to bring Israel back to its roots. I wouldn't have picked Samson, right? Listen, David, a murderer. the Joo, the crazy chariot driver with the wild hair. Joo. But do you know what's amazing, you guys? If you know your scripture, and it's so great to know your scripture, because you get to live every day viewing news, viewing everything through the lens of scripture. You You don't have to be ruffled about anything. Here's what's fun about being a believer who knows their Bible at a time like this. When you look around, I'm immediately re uh reminded as we're all reading through the Old Testament right now at this time of the year through through the scriptures. I'm reminded that how God used King Josiah is how God's using Donald Trump and this cabinet. See, what do you mean by that? Josiah comes along and says, "We got to get back to the Bible." Guess what Trump has said numerous times? We got to get back to the Bible. You know, he said that. I remember being in a room when he walked in. We were in uh Miami. He walks into a room. There's about 25 pastors in the room. Trump walks in and he says, he doesn't even say, "Hi, how you doing? Did you like your dinner?" Trump walks in and says, "All you have to do is give them the Bible. Trump said that." You say, "Well, I don't I don't like Trump." Forget about that. What he said was true. Okay? And then he comes along and like Josiah, Josiah says, "We need to tear down these pagan worship centers." Did you know Josiah did that? He said, "For Israel to get back to pleasing to God, we had to tear down these worship centers of paganism." Guess what those worship centers of paganism? Guess what the altar was? The altar was the offering up of f of newborn children. In King Josiah's day, Josiah said, "Destroy all of that." Josiah said, "I want all the men to be armed, and we need to build the walls and border our kingdom from the enemy." Build walls. You guys, when you look at your Old Testament, you may not have been a friend of Josiah. He may have had hair or not. I don't know what the guy looked like. You may not have personally liked him, but his policies made you safer. And the surrounding nations of Israel and Judah, they were very, very hesitant to mess with Israel during the days of Jud of Josiah the king. Listen, right now, nations are taking a second thought as to what they would do with the United States right now. And that's a good thing, ladies and gentlemen. Um, when you have nations having to think about America again before they do any business or what they decide to do to Israel because America might step in, this is this is a good day. And this is called politics because it is the execution and at least in this republic of the will of the people. You and I are sitting in the most unique experiment in the history of man. We live in a republic. Stop listening to the word democracy. We do not live in a democracy. That's all you hear. But that's not what we live in. We live in a constitutional republic. Which means for the first time in human history for these last 250 years, it's we the people will decide what we will do with this nation. And and when the Constitution is being upheld as it is right now, and then you've got the other team saying, "We've got to stop this. We've got to stop this. It's unconstitutional." They don't even know the Constitution. Something's going on right now with Pam Bondi. It's pretty amazing. You'll read about it soon. It's purely, in fact, they dug back. They found in Not only is this constitutional, but a law was made back in 2001, and we're going to do it. And people are people are going to freak out. they're going to freak out and say, "You can't do that." Oh, that was made law in 2001 after 911 and it is very constitutional as well. But if you don't know what you have, then you don't know how to defend what you have in your hand. And you can easily lose it if you don't know it. So, as believers, we need to vote. We need to shine the light. We need to get involved. Some of you need to run for office. I I I totally agree. And what one one last generational note which I think is important is that there's b there's basically four voting generations right now. There's Gen Z which is the youngest, millennials, Gen X and then baby boomers and then there is silent generation but it's very small. So the of all four the one that wildly went to the right in addition to Gen Z was Gen X. Now, where are my Gen Xers at? You guys are like scary rightwing. And I mean, but let me explain why. You You might say, "Well, why is Gen X, by the way, is 25 points more Republican than boomers, and they're younger." But why? It's And by the way, they moved almost 20 points more Republican since 2020. It's because they have kids in school. and see what's happening in the culture war up close and personal. And it's this remarkable thing. So millennials, which I am one, and boomers are kind of tied together because I am the a a a son of the boomers. Gen Z is largely sons and daughters of Gen X. And so they almost move as a block. They Gen X and Gen Z suffered the most during COVID. Their parents that saw their kids suffer miserably. They they were in the workforce or all of a sudden their workplaces were shut down and they went all remote. It was the it was the most disruption. And so if you look at the leading indicator, Gen Z keeps going this way, Gen X keeps on going this way. Very very exciting things are coming coming ahead. That's awesome. So this cabinet that is in power right now, this cabinet that is being formed uh and still being assembled by the way uh in some degree where for me it's not going to be settled until Mike Huckabe is uh is passed through uh his confirmation hearings. But Charlie, explain this. Um, Governor Huckabe is getting hit really hard um because he's Trump's appointment as ambassador to Israel and they've been dragging it out and there's been protesting going on that and I just in fact I was on a I was on Jenna Jenna Ellis's show this morning talking about this very thing and um this is who's against Governor Mike Cuckabe being the ambassador of the United States to Israel. Are you ready? The Council for American Islamic Relations care. They are furious that Trump is consuck. Why? He's a born-again bibleelving Christian. He's even an ordained pastor and he loves Israel and he's made something like 30 trips to Israel. He's obviously biased and so care wants him to be removed from this position. The Muslim Brotherhood, they don't want Mike Huckabe to be the ambassador to Israel. I want you to think about this for a moment. The Democrat party, if you're a Democrat, you do not want Mike Huckabe to be the ambassador to Israel. Interesting. Also, this extremely bizarre liberal rabbis and Jews do not want my Huckabe. You know what? All of their answer was same answer. He's too proBible. He's pro- Jesus. He has an overwhelming bias in his heart for Israel. Thus, he cannot be the ambassador to ambassador to Israel. I know this might come as a shock, but he's not going to be the ambassador for the Muslim Brotherhood. He's not going to be the ambassador for care. He's not going to be the ambassador to Pakistan or to Iran. It's Israel. Trump is actually appointing exactly the right guy for the job. But he's getting so much resistance. But Charlie, talk a little bit about this cabinet because it's almost as though any one of these cabinet members could be a president. Talk about that. Without a doubt. Let let me just go a little bit further on the Mike Huckabe thing and something that I think the church has to become far more wise and outspoken about and I I feel about a decade ago more people used to talk about this and it's gone away and it's bothering me. I don't think the church is properly equipped to understand the issue of cultural Islam and how Islam is slowly slitting the throat of the west and the fact that almost nobody is applauding shows we have to do more teaching on this Jack. This is a serious issue. If you have been blessed to go to Europe 10, 15 years ago, I encourage you to go back. It is an unrecognizable continent. Don't go back. It is a conquered land of the Muhammadans. Y and Muhammadanism by the way is the following of the prophet Muhammad where they believe is the ultimate authority. Christianity in America we I I think that probably Jack is really good on this. I think probably less than 1% of churches are equipping the congregation to understand it is slow motion suicide. That's right. to import millions of people who are taught to hate you, conquer you, and if necessary, kill you. And I know that might sound extreme, but go read the Quran and the Hadith. It's true. And it's true. Of course, there are good Muslims. I have a doctor who is a good Muslim in Phoenix. That is not the point. The point is the ideology in the macro, not the micro. Do not allow them to trap you into micro stories of Muslims that act pleasant to you. Okay? Is the macro compatible with Western civilization. And the answer is it is not compatible with Western civilization. You must hear this. In fact, if you have any doubt and we've you mentioned Europe, um I've been to Europe both past and and and present. It's a shock. It's a heartbreaking shock. Europe is a post-Christian world. There's no doubt about it. But listen everybody, um if you land, if you've ever landed at Reagan National Airport and you get in your Uber or rental car and you're heading out of the airport, there is a park uh just at the uh north end of the airport and there will be uh at various times of the day there will be anywhere from a 100 to 200 Muslims with their prayer carpets out praying. You've probably seen them. And in fact, it was just on the on somebody posted this recently. The point is this. Uh, is it is it Patterson? Is it Patterson, New Jersey? Patterson, New Jersey. Do you know why I'm bringing it up, anybody? Patterson, New New Jersey. The city of Patterson, New Jersey. City Council just went 100% Muslim. and they implemented uh elements of Sharia law in the United States in Patterson, New Jersey. If if you think that it's just a benign different religion, you have never read Islam, nor do you know anything about history. And I highly encourage you to read what Winston Churchill said about Islam. It it it will absolutely blow your mind. And sadly, Winston Churchill, nobody listened to him because now his country is is gone. It's conquered. It's conquered. But you've got to realize something. Uh they have a little jingle and it's their jingle is we'll destroy the Saturday people first and then we'll destroy the Sunday people. The Saturday people are Jews and the Sunday people are you. And you say, "Well, I don't think I know a lot of nice Muslims." Listen, push comes to shove, the radicals will force the ones that you know that are nice. Happens in every country all over the world. By the way, as we sit here tonight, right now, in the last several months, and it's escalating, the genocidal acts of Islam in North Africa killing Christians wholesale is at an alltime, well, not an all-time high. It's at one of the highest levels in the last 50 years. But you don't even know. And so because you don't know, you don't care. But they're being slaughtered by Islam. This is very very dangerous. And so just just something to keep in mind uh regarding our our borders, right? Why in our borders here? Why for these last four years in the in the deserts of Arizona and California and Texas were their letters and notes in Arabic and in other in Russian and other Chinese instructions in the desert for them to pick up and go to various places. There's a plan. There's a plot. And and thank God President Trump's working hard to shut those doors down. And I'll just end with this. Try try tonight to get on a plane and fly to Saudi Arabia or even Germany and walk into the country without the proper documentation. Are you hearing me everybody? You young people up here right now. Go try right now to walk into Canada without proper identification. You can't do it. So then why are we opening the door saying come on in no matter what? We are we're being invaded and the previous administration allowed it and even encouraged it and and understand this that Islam it never goes from a Christian society to an Islamic society. There is an intermediary step and that is secularism. So a continent like Europe goes from a Christian continent to a materialistic secular continent and then to an Islamic one. But understand that Islam is able to quote unquote solve the problems of modernity. So what happens is you're Christian and you're happy and you have kids and you have people are flourishing. But then we said that well we need to go liberate our women because Christianity is oppressive. That is feminism. That's what you guys send your daughters to college to go learn. And so they become miserable and then you have to deprogram them and not see them for Thanksgiving. So it's it's it's by the way it's it's a fact. the the the the the lack of redemption to send your kids to college is very very remarkable. Uh anyway, that's a whole separate topic for another time. So, we decide to quote unquote liberate our women. It's all about women's liberation. As you notice, started in the 1960s and 70s. What happens when women are liberated? Well, they think that marriage and having family formation is oppressive and that it's patriarchal. So, then having children goes down. And so all of a sudden Europe, they say, "Well, we need to have people that do all of our jobs because we're not having kids because we are super rich and we're materialistic focused. So who's going to staff our resorts and make our chateau keep our chateau clean and drive our taxis and so we need people?" And they say, "Well, there's 50 million people in the Middle East that want to be here." And you couple that with a non-Christian pagan problem, which is guilt. Guilt is a major major driver of leftwing politics. We as Christians should not walk around with guilt because we are forgiven by Christ our Lord because of what he did on the cross. So when you are plagued with guilt, which is a major problem of left-wing politics because they can't reconcile with guilt, there is no way to absolve yourself of guilt. You know, the only way you can do it is do left-wing things. Diversity is my strength. Black lives matter. In this house, we believe trans your kid. That's like as close as you can get to like absolving yourself of guilt. Well, Europe primarily what Europe is only really one country. As Germany goes, all of Europe goes. They're by far the wealthiest country, the most productive one. Germany has been hypnotized to believe that you should be always guilty for what your grandparents did. Again, no one is defending the horrors of the Holocaust, obviously, but they have this unresolved guilt. What happens when you have guilt plus secularism? Mass migration. That's what you get. So they feel sad and sorry all the time. So you have that awful person Angala Merkel who's secular, non-Christian, filled with guilt. And the mechanism of how they make themselves feel better is we're going to go import tens of millions of Muhammadans that are going to go rape our women and take over our land because at least I won't be a Nazi. That's true. And that is the strange death of Europe. And so then we look at America and praise God we defeated Kla Harris so that we could kind of thwart this off at the past. But it was very similar, right? We had secularism. Yeah. So we were becoming less and less Christian. Less and less Christian. We want stuff. We're filled with guilt all the time. What is the great sin of America? The great sin is not abandoning your kids. The great sin is not cheating on your wife. The great sin is not going into debt. The great sin is not becoming an alcoholic. No. The worst thing that you can be in America is a racist. I want you to think about how sick a society is if that's the worst thing you can be. Racism is awful. I'm sorry. Abandoning your children is worse than being a racist. It is. And the fact that like we're uncomfortable saying that, of course, racism is evil. It has no place in society. But we have decided, the secular designers, that the unforgivable sin is not blaspheing the Lord. It's that thou shalt not be racist. And I am willing to do whatever it takes to show you that I'm not racist. I'll donate to your cause. I'll show up at your parade. Whatever it takes, have my children as a sacrifice to the god of anti-racism. I will give you my eight-year-old to show you that I'm not racist. That's right. And so therefore, our immigration policies are then informed by the very same secular pagan view. Well, we we need more brown people because I don't want to be called a racist. That's the worst thing we could be. We need more Elon Omar's. We need more Rashidita Talibes. And if you dare question it, you're going to be called the worst thing that you could be called. This is all a byproduct of secularism. When you are no longer Christian, you have no mechanism to be able to deal with guilt, with shame, and you start doing really goofy, weird stuff to your country. That's right. And so now we we're living in this kind of post-Christian phase where all of a sudden now we can look at things through a scriptural lens saying, "Oh, wait. In the end of Deuteronomy, Moses wrote extensively saying that be careful who you invite into your nation because those people will then become your masters if you are not careful. Got it? So now we look at what's happening in Minneapolis where it's becoming predominantly Muslim. We see what's happening in New Jersey. We see how Elon Omar is parading around the capital with nothing good to say about America. We see Rashida Talib. We see care. We see how they're going after Mike Huckabe. And we can be uh you know wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove and say you know what maybe we should have no immigration from countries that hate us that then repopulate and take over the west. But you cannot have that belief if you are predominantly secular because when you are secular a counterfeit left-wing view will take the place of Christianity. Yeah, it's 100% true. And you think about this. This may I want you to just think this through. This is not for shock value factor. I just honestly want you to take a deep breath and and think this through for a second. Have you noticed, Charlie, that the the person who first brings up the issue of racism is almost always the racist. And I want to be clear, I'm not defending racism or not. I'm saying though that there are worse sins than having racial stereotype against that. Like raping a child is worse than being a racist. Okay. Absolutely. And that that should be repeated because in society we treat the racists worse, the racists. But in reality actually the people making the accusation are the ones with racial bitterness in their heart. Exactly. Exactly. So we heard five days before Barack Obama took office. I believe it was five days or maybe it was five days before the election weekend. He said, "We are only five days away from fundamentally changing America, transforming America." Think about that for a moment. It had never been said before. If you love a country, you might run for office to make it better. And you might understand that you're running for an office in this country to help create a more perfect union. Isn't that supposed to be what our politicians are to strive for? That's what our founding fathers told us. But if you want to, can you imagine you you meet a woman and you say, "Let's get married." But before we do, you need to fundamentally change. How long you think she would go through with that one? And yet, I'm going to say something that is tragically, I think, accurate. It doesn't feel very good. But, you know, you've got George Washington, you've got Lincoln, uh you got Reagan, you've got Trump. Just all this by the numbers. But you know who was one of the most powerful presidents in all of American history? It's Barack Obama. Powerful in the negative. He normalized the entire LGBTQ situation by putting up the gay flag in our embassies around the world and on the White House actually and on the White House. He ch he completely changed the color of the White House into into rainbow and and then he normalized um Islam. He spoke in Harvard and behind him in the area that he was speaking, you could go look it up. It's still online. They he demanded that they drape the back end of where he was speaking because he was actually speaking from a pulpit and behind was all of this incredible woodwork given glory to God and and and in the Lord Jesus Christ in scripture Barack Obama demanded that it be covered up. Why would he do that? You see, you can't say anything about that because he's black. Well, that's not exactly true. He's half white. But we were so guiltstricken that we had to I know I'm just saying I didn't but people had to atone watch watch this they had to atone for themselves. So do you guys know that Barack Obama could not have been elected president without the white vote. Did you know that there's not you he had to have the white vote to win? But then as soon as he won we were called racist. But if we were racist then how watch. I'm going to shock you. If he was elected and you couldn't get elected without white votes and then he and his party turn on us and call us racists, here's here's the funny ironic thing about it. If you voted for Barack Obama or Camala Harris because they're black or half black, you're racist. You ever think of that? If if you voted for somebody based on the color of their skin versus their qualifications, you're a racist. You call it and you rightfully do guilt. Guilt. Shame. Yes. And understand this is where it all becomes spiritual. The enemy, Satan, wants you to live in that state of shame and guilt. He he he is the accuser. Satan literally means prosecutor in Hebrew. He never will give you escape or freedom. That is why Christ changes the entire ball game. And that is why society when you have a civilization that believes in Christ, you don't live by your past mistakes. You are born new. You are born in Christ. And then all of a sudden you don't have to say you don't have to talk about slavery all the time because you're a forgiven nation and you're a forgiven people. Do you understand how the left wants the same way that Satan would to hold you captive of something that you might not have done or been connected to and they keep you in that state of perpetual guilt and shame. Why? You are easier to control that way. You are easier to as a society to make you do other things that you would not do because you are filled with that guilt. All of you have been in that place where you feel so bad that you did something and you say anything. I'll do anything to make it right. Well, imagine that as an entire c that is the west over the last 30 or 40 years. And that is why the only solution is to bring the entire country back to Christ to bring everybody back to Jesus. Otherwise, it actually you will not be able to long-term solve this problem. And so, you asked about the cabinet. Um, but uh we got a little off track, but it it's it's a phenomenal thing. By the way, this is where I also want to just applaud President Trump's just wisdom and his courage. I truly believe the hand of the Lord is on President Trump and he's using him as a vessel. I I I really believe that. But just look at the intellectual diversity. You have Tulsi Gabbard. You have Bobby Kennedy at HHS. Praise the Lord that he's there. Two Democrats that were running for the presidency. And by the way, if all Bobby Kennedy does is answer one question, he will be the greatest HHS secretary in history. There's only one question he has to answer. It's not what is a woman, but that they know that he he already got that one right. It's very simple. Why are our kids so sick? Yeah, that is his mission statement. That's all we care about. Bobby, answer that question in four years with no hocus pocus Fouchy science and you will be a triumph the likes of which we will thank you for a 100red years. It's true. That one question because our kids are so sick in this state. One in 28 kids have autism, the highest in the country. 50% of our 15year-olds are obese or overweight. We do not have a child starvation problem in this country. We have a child diabetes problem in this country. That's right. They are trying to add ompic to the Medicaid schedule for 12 and 13 year olds. That's right. Harvard scientists are saying that obesity is not a lifestyle choice. It is a genetic condition and there's no use in trying to change diet or improve lifestyle just through an injection once a week. This is a waste of time. It'll make everyone's lives better to have teenagers addicted to an insulin shot at the age of 12 or 13. That's right. We have more kids with neurode divergence. Half of our kids, half of our kids by the age of 21 will have contemplated suicide said that they are very depressed, hyper anxious or in need of of significant counseling or a daily regimen of anti-depressants. Half of our kids, we are seeing a crisis the likes of which a wealthy developed nation should never actually see. So, praise the Lord that the one guy who prayed, Bobby Kennedy, who used to pray to God, right? That's right. This is his own story, his own words. He said that his own story is an answer to prayer. Bobby Kennedy used to get on his hands and knees and say, "God, put me in a place where I can get to the bottom of why our kids are so sick." He literally said, "I will do anything. Use me as a vessel." So, he ran for the presidency as an independent. He ran as a Democrat. I think Bobby deserves a lot more credit than he gets at times. You know how hard it was for a Kennedy to burn all the boats of his ancestry to go endorse Donald Trump? I know you guys might grasp that. It is It is everything. That's right. He is the namesake of Bobby Kennedy, of RFK. And he said, "I asked God to give me a chance and he saw an opportunity and he did it and he endorsed Trump and he was a phenomenal surrogate. And now to this day, he's already asking the right questions out of the vaccine manufacturers. He's trying to get pharmaceutical advertising off television. Praise God. That would be a huge victory for the American people. Phenomenal. So, and I I I could spend the rest of our evening, Jack, on this, but let me just go quick. We got Pete Hegsth, who's just doing amazing at head of DoD. And we have And by the way, how great is JD Vance? What an upgrade JD Vance is, right? Did you say upgrade? Do what? Did you say upgrade? Did you say upgrade? Oh, yeah. I said upgrade. That's awesome. Major upgrade. Big league. Um, can wait before he goes off of this, please. If you did not see JD Vance's speech in Europe to the who to who was it? Well, there was two. There was AI but also the Munich Security Conference. The Munich Security Conference. Please watch it. Masterass. It was uh some people extraordinary. Some people are saying it was the best speech given in the last 100 years. And and I can tell you that JD Vance loves the Lord. He's a serious Christian. He's he's a also a major fighter for the unborn, a serious pro-life advocate. So I and I just I love JD. I can't wait to introduce you to JD. He's I I want Jack to lay hands over JD and pray for him. He I I I think he's going to make a great 48th president. I really think JD is going to do a great job. I really do. So, let me um but then also Cash Patel running the FBI with with hold on his deputy Dan Bonino. I mean, come on. And Marco Rubio at Secretary of State. I mean, wow. Isn't he, man, he came on great. And how about Tom Holman securing the southern border? I mean, I I just I want all of you. And there's a lot that we can express tonight, but we should just be in a constant state of gratitude of it says in the scriptures to pray without ceasing. And I want that prayer for you to be one of gratitude. Look, there'll be ups and there'll be be downs. There'll be cringe moments. There'll be things I could have said it better. But like, hold on, guys. We have never seen a team of such capable allstars assembled to save this country that we love. And glory be to God for this moment that we are living through. Absolutely. Absolutely. One of the things that was mentioned recently in news is that this is not only the most competent cabinet in American history, but that they are profoundly unified in the vision. And I think that's a testimony to Trump's leadership. Um there's no gray area. Uh they know what they're doing. They know what they're supposed to do. And Charlie and I were talking about this earlier today. Isn't God amazing? And I love how God never asks us for our help or for our opinion. So Trump Trump has his first uh four years. And he was able to do by the numbers. I'm I'm saying that for people who don't like him, forget about him. Go look at the numbers regarding the economy, regarding the military, regarding you interest rates. the borders, you name it. The first four years, uh, he was able to set records and at the same time he's fighting off all these impeachments and two, uh, FBI forensic investigations on his he was he had to deal with all of the half half of the Rhino Republican party, all of the Democrat party and all of the hatred and people spewing stuff and America did great and you made a lot of money during those four years. And then the Biden thing happens and we're like, what what what's going on? And I'm I know my Bible, so I'm starting to get a little nervous thinking, okay, God, you're you're God because you give in the Bible, you say you give you give a nation the leaders that they deserve. So I looked around at the landscape and I was hoping Trump was going to win the second time, but I had to ask myself, what do we deserve as a nation? We deserved Camala Harris. Oh, that's right. Let's be honest. But here's where here's my concern. But God is so good. So, four years, great. Four years, not great. A guy a guy runs again. Why would he run again? The guy's worth billions of dollars. He's not getting younger. He's got grandkids. He's got a lot at stake. Why run again? He already knows what it's like. He runs obviously. He crushes it and dodges a bullet. No, he didn't. He actually got hit by the bullet. The the the the Lord saved his life that day. The bottom line is you guys, the second term, you're living history right now, all of you, especially you young people, you ought to get excited. You got a president and then he was not a president and then it worked out so perfectly that it wouldn't have been so great if Trump would have had eight years. It's actually better because God is God. That it was the four and then the bad four and then now the beginning of the new four. Amen. And you guys need to sit up and take notice. God doesn't care about how you feel. God's going to execute his will. And the best thing for you to do is get behind what God wants to do. And you can take a lot of comfort knowing God says, "I establish the kings and I remove the kings." Amen. That's awesome. And I just want to remind you guys, we did a happening now, as I said, on January 21st, 2021. And it was a it was not a good vibe here. And we had to try to really dig people out. I think we did a good job of that. And at the time, people would say, "Charlie, is this it for America? Are we done? Is it over?" And at the time, it looked like that. The border was completely wide open. We were seeing the militaristic crackdown of any dissident. I mean, it was a dark, dark time. But I go back to two scriptures. Genesis 50:20, what the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good. And they really regret not letting Trump win that 2020 election at this point. There is a lot of regret. They're basically like, why is it we had to do all these dropboxes and mail and stuff and the mules and all? Why couldn't we just have allowed Trump a second term? because now they have to deal with Cash Patel and Dan Bonino and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsa Gabard and JD V now like what is this? It's a disaster and it it should remind all of us that in those micro trials and look we're going to go through trials again. There will inevitably be a time where we get a little too prideful and maybe the Democrats win another presidential election. It might be in four years or eight years. Things go in cycles. Okay, that's right. And so we have to just remember Romans 8:28 that God will use all things for good for those who love him. And it's just such an important lesson for me because it looked as if it was the end of America four years ago when in reality it was God's love for America to say no, it's actually a new birth of freedom if you stay faithful and you keep fighting with. So, let me put on the let me put on the sarcastic hat. Well, that's just great, Charlie. Yes, our politics is better. And um even our economy right now, it's going to it's going to hurt uh because because we over spent really bad as a country. Please listen to this so you're not shocked later. Uh I think the market was down today close to 400 points. Get used to that for a while. It's going to be rough for a while because we over spent. We were we were drinking all of this, you know, milkshake and all this stuff and having a great old time. Uh but that's not how you can function. And so our economyy's got to go through some healing processes. Don't worry about it. In fact, if you listen to some of these guys, you listen to JP Morgan and and uh Stanley and you listen to these other guys and they're saying Trump's doing exactly the right thing, but boy, hang on. Hang on because it's going to be amazing in about 10 months. This thing should really really we should get through it. Just just know this. But Charlie, so that's good news. And the border shut down and now there's no new wars starting like during Biden there was a war every other day. Uh come on, let's be honest. You think Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump would have been in office? There would have been a million people still bre breathing air right now. that never would have happened. And then October October 7th, 2023 with Israel, that never would have happened. So all that's great, Charlie. That's just great. But a political revival in the nation is completely different than a spiritual revival within the nation. So what needs to happen next? And this is where my concern is. You mentioned the next four years. I'm I I I'm concerned regarding the midterms for this reason. I believe God is saying to the church, I I look, at least he's saying it to this pastor. I can't speak for any other except Greg Denim. God bless you, brother. Great guy. God is saying to me, "Look, um, I gave you guys some freedom. I gave you guys some liberty. I held back by my mercy." And Trump's doing the right thing for the nation. But what are my pastors going to do with this freedom? What are my pastors going to do with the word of God? What are my pastors going to do with the cultural listen with the cultural and social issues that we've become accustomed for a hundred years? Shame on us the church for leaning on the government to take care of the homeless problem. Leaning on the government to take care of the social ills. The church should have never abandoned those positions. The church should be the greatest assist to a local government. and to a state government. And I believe God is saying, what will the church do? What will the pastors do in America with this extension of grace? That's my greatest concern because I think if the pastors don't get up and wake up and speak up that God may God may give us a midterm election result that Trump is powerless in his last two years. It could happen, probably will, unless the church wakes up. Because if you think God is going to spare America just for political reasons, you don't know the God of the Bible, nor do you know American history. Okay, this is big stuff. I believe now the answer is the pulpit in America. What will happen in the pulpit in America is is the next point. Yeah. And and to reiterate that there is a harvest waiting to happen. And I do not currently see pastors interested at all. And the harvest is very simple. Ties back to what we said earlier. There are millions of young men starving for the truth that are asking their local pastor to start to be a pastor, not just someone who gives a TED talk with a rock concert wearing skinny jeans. Don't worry, you're fine, Jack. And they're not that skinny. You're great. A church is more than a place with organized parking and above average coffee and to go hear how great you are. Here's the problem. A feminine church affirms those that walk in. A biblical church or one that is masculine or at least gets presented as one challenges those that walk in. Those are two different things. Allow me to build that out. Young men will go I hear this all the time. They say, "Charlie, I can't find a church near me. Jack, you have young men that will drive 5 hours to come down here." They are. They do. And they do. And they are. And that's awesome and that is something that is a testament to Jack. But how many churches did they pass on the way that weren't telling the truth that weren't doing the right thing? So what does this look like in practice? Well, very simply, it's when you are presenting the scripture, you need to be actively trying to provoke the people in the audience, your congregation, to understand that yes, you need a savior. But you can't grasp what a savior is if you don't know what sin is. And so, when a church does not preach about sin, then how on