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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Charlie Kirk on Rosie O'Donnell's Self-Deportation to Ireland and the Fight for Mass Deportations
Rosie O'Donnell moved to Ireland with her non-binary child before President Trump's inauguration, citing Project 2025 as her reason for leaving. Charlie Kirk sees this as the ultimate full-circle moment in Trump's political journey and calls for more self-deportation among illegal immigrants. With 1.6 million illegals already holding deportation orders, Kirk argues the administration should expedite removals while courts attempt to grind down the process. He explores why encouraging voluntary departure, even offering stipends and plane tickets, may be key to fulfilling Trump's mass deportation mandate.
Rosie O'Donnell's Self-Deportation: A Full-Circle Moment
Rosie O'Donnell has officially self-deported to Ireland, and Charlie Kirk can't help but see the irony in the situation. The celebrity, who has been a vocal critic of President Trump for years, made the decision to leave the United States with her non-binary child before Trump's inauguration. In a recent interview, O'Donnell revealed she has no regrets about her decision, stating she was welcomed with open arms in Ireland.
O'Donnell explained that after reading Project 2025, she knew that if Trump won the election, it was time for her and her child to leave the country. While she wasn't one of the celebrities who publicly announced such plans, she made the decision within her family and with her therapist. Once Trump won, they put their plan into action and departed before the inauguration.
Kirk notes the remarkable symmetry of this moment, referencing the famous 2015 Republican debate where Trump, when confronted about calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals," quipped "only Rosie O'Donnell" to roaring applause. Ten years later, Trump's election victory has resulted in O'Donnell leaving America. Kirk jokes that the whole scenario feels like an SNL skit—the ultimate arc of Trump's political journey culminating in Rosie O'Donnell's self-deportation after reading Project 2025.
Most remarkably, Kirk finds common ground with O'Donnell: she has no regrets leaving, and Americans have no regrets that she left. It's something both sides can finally agree on.
The Immigration Challenge: 1.6 Million Awaiting Deportation
Beyond the Rosie O'Donnell story, Kirk addresses the serious immigration challenge facing the nation. He references a previous conversation with Professor U that he found somewhat disturbing, but emphasizes one critical fact: there are 1.6 million illegal immigrants who already have deportation orders. These individuals have already been through due process, which means they can be removed immediately.
Kirk argues that while the administration fights legal battles in the courts over broader immigration enforcement, these 1.6 million people should be deported right away. An emailer named Eric reinforced this point, and Kirk agrees wholeheartedly. The people with existing deportation orders have exhausted their legal options and should be removed without further delay.
The most important priority, Kirk emphasizes, is closing the border itself. But separately, the administration needs to encourage self-deportation—just like Rosie O'Donnell did, albeit for different reasons.
President Trump's Self-Deportation Strategy
President Trump has outlined a strategy for encouraging voluntary departure. According to Trump: "We're going to give them a stipend. We're going to give them some money and a plane ticket. We're going to work with them. If they're good, we want to send them back in. We're going to work with them to get them back in as quickly as we can."
Kirk explains that the administration needs to focus on people who are willing to voluntarily leave the country because, unfortunately, the courts are going to try to grind down the entire deportation process. This judicial interference poses a threat to the democratic will of the American people, who elected Trump based in part on his promise of mass deportations.
The Alien Enemies Act and Creating Uncertainty
Kirk discusses one aspect of the Alien Enemies Act that he believes President Trump wanted to employ: creating an environment where illegal immigrants never know if they're going to be picked up next. This uncertainty, Kirk argues, encourages self-deportation. If you are in the country illegally, you should return to your country of origin voluntarily rather than wait to be caught.
The immigration question facing America is a major one, Kirk acknowledges. The unelected judiciary and unelected bureaucracy are going to do everything they possibly can to slow down the process. This is why encouraging voluntary departure becomes so important as part of the overall strategy.
Should Trump Defy the Courts?
Kirk addresses the question of whether it's time for the administration to defy the courts that are preventing deportations from happening. His answer is no—he doesn't think that's the case. Instead, Kirk believes the Supreme Court needs to rule that there must be an expedited process to remove people from the country.
The courts are currently preventing the deportations that President Trump ran on, and this directly contradicts the will of the American people as expressed through their votes. Rather than defying court orders, Kirk argues the solution is to get the Supreme Court to establish a faster, more efficient deportation process that can't be endlessly delayed by lower court rulings.
The whole situation has brought Trump's political journey full circle—from that 2015 debate moment with Rosie O'Donnell to her actual departure from the country in 2025. As Kirk puts it, Trump got her out of America, and it's the first step in making America great again. He won, and she's in Ireland with her non-binary child.
