Charlie Kirk on the Trump-Musk Feud: What Really Happened When Elon Unfollowed Me and Dropped the Epstein Files Claim

[00:00] Okay, everybody. What a chaotic day. It

[00:02] is unfolding in real time. President

[00:04] Donald Trump and Elon Musk's feud is

[00:06] going into public. And actually, I am

[00:08] getting caught up in it. Elon Musk has

[00:10] unfollowed me on Twitter. We need to say

[00:12] this out of the outset. We should be

[00:14] thankful to Elon Musk for buying X, for

[00:16] liberating speech, for putting up uh and

[00:19] his money and his time and his treasure

[00:21] to try and save Western civilization. Uh

[00:24] we should be very thankful for that in

[00:27] more ways than one. Uh but now this is

[00:29] uh turning into a chaotic mess uh to say

[00:32] the least. So the the the back and forth

[00:37] between Elon and Trump has now escalated

[00:39] to the highest possible ability. So

[00:42] capacity it's going back and forth and

[00:43] back and forth. So it started with Elon

[00:45] Musk saying quote without me Trump would

[00:47] have lost the election. Democrats would

[00:49] control the House and the Republicans

[00:51] would be 5149 in the Senate. Such

[00:54] ingratitude. That's a complicated

[00:56] statement by Elon. He basically saying

[00:59] that because of him, we won the 2024

[01:02] election. Now, he played a role for

[01:04] sure. Turning Point played a role. This

[01:06] was President Trump's victory. Let's be

[01:08] honest, he is the one why people showed

[01:10] up by the millions to go and vote for

[01:12] him. It's because of President Donald

[01:14] Trump who got shot in Butler,

[01:16] Pennsylvania, that he was able to

[01:18] outperform the polls again. So then it

[01:21] prompted President Donald Trump to

[01:23] respond, quote, Elon was wearing thin. I

[01:26] asked him to leave. I took away his

[01:28] electric vehicle mandate that forced

[01:30] everyone to buy electric cars that

[01:32] nobody else wanted, that he knew for

[01:34] months I was going to do. And he just

[01:35] went crazy. Donald Trump continued,

[01:38] quote, "The easiest way to save money in

[01:40] our budget, billions and billions of

[01:42] dollars, is to terminate Elon's

[01:44] governmental subsidies and contracts. I

[01:46] was always surprised that Biden didn't

[01:48] do it."

[01:50] And then Elon uh responded to a quote a

[01:53] tweet from Laura Loomer back and forth

[01:55] saying quote, "Oh, and some food for

[01:57] thought as they pondered this question."

[01:59] Trump has three and a half years left as

[02:01] president, but I will be around for 40

[02:03] plus years. Elon then drops the

[02:07] thermonuclear bomb. He drops the bomb

[02:10] that broke the internet. And honestly,

[02:12] it's not even what he thinks it is and

[02:14] what the internet thinks it is, which is

[02:15] one of the reasons why we're talking

[02:17] right now. Elon Musk says, quote, "Time

[02:20] to drop the really big bomb. Donald

[02:23] Trump is in the Epstein files. That is

[02:25] the real reason they have not been made

[02:27] public. Have a nice day, DJT. Mark this

[02:30] post for the future. The truth will come

[02:32] out." Now, to be clear, President Donald

[02:36] Trump had an adversarial relationship

[02:38] with Jeffrey Epstein. The idea that now

[02:40] 10 years after President Trump went down

[02:43] the golden escalator, all of a sudden

[02:44] there's going to be a new, previously

[02:46] not known, terrible allegation against

[02:48] President Trump, the guy that was sued

[02:51] into oblivion by Eene Carol and Stormmy

[02:53] Daniels. Now 10 years later, we're

[02:56] supposed to believe there's going to be

[02:57] a smoking gun of something in the

[02:58] Epstein files. But what is in the

[03:01] Epstein files is yes, President Donald

[03:03] Trump is probably mentioned. He was

[03:04] mentioned in the Epstein file dump back

[03:06] in February. You know why? He lived in

[03:09] Palm Beach. There's probably thousands

[03:11] of names in the Epstein files. Was he

[03:13] part of the Epstein client list?

[03:15] Absolutely not. That is complete

[03:17] nonsense. Elon Musk then sends another

[03:19] tweet about how uh we're going to he

[03:22] says, "This just gets better and better.

[03:24] Go ahead and make my day about ending

[03:26] the International Space Station and

[03:28] providing no safe way to de-orbit." And

[03:31] then Elon Musk responds to a truth from

[03:35] Donald Trump saying such an obvious lie.

[03:37] So lie. So sad. I I wish this would be

[03:39] all be handled privately. I wish greatly

[03:42] this would all be handled behind closed

[03:44] doors. But to say that Donald Trump is

[03:47] not releasing the Epstein files because

[03:50] he's in them in some incriminating way.

[03:53] Yes, it's very clear that if you live in

[03:56] Palm Beach, you might have been

[03:58] mentioned and caught up in some sort of

[04:00] conversation with Jeffrey Epstein. There

[04:02] is zero chance whatsoever on any planet

[04:05] anytime soon that we're supposed to

[04:07] believe that all of a sudden after 10

[04:09] years they finally got Donald Trump

[04:11] because he's listed in the Epstein

[04:13] files. Now Elon Musk is coming hard

[04:15] after Donald Trump. He's also

[04:17] threatening to start a third party. He's

[04:20] saying quote, "Is it time to create a

[04:21] new political party in America that

[04:23] actually represents the 80% in the

[04:25] middle?" And the vast majority of people

[04:27] are saying yes. There is really no way

[04:30] to sugarcoat it. This is a mess. This is

[04:33] a pile of garbage. What is happening

[04:36] right now between Elon Musk and Donald

[04:38] Trump. But honestly, in some ways, if

[04:42] you look at it at its fundamental core,

[04:43] it's not going to be a movement breaker.

[04:45] A month from now, we probably won't be

[04:46] talking about this. Two months from now,

[04:48] this is largely just heightened tension

[04:50] that tensions and lot of passions and

[04:53] emotions and there's a waxing and a

[04:55] waning that comes forward between Elon

[04:58] and Donald Trump. But we must also be

[05:00] very clear. It's President Trump who won

[05:02] the election. He's the one that got

[05:04] elected. While we're thankful for what

[05:06] Elon did when the chips were down, Elon

[05:08] Musk did not win the election. He was

[05:10] not on the ballot. And Elon Musk is

[05:13] worth $420 billion. Tesla, by the way,

[05:15] is down over hundred billion in market

[05:18] cap. And just to think that this is all

[05:21] because of the big beautiful bill. But I

[05:24] think it's actually deeper than that. I

[05:26] think it's much more fundamental. It's

[05:29] really the question of who is the

[05:31] president of the United States and who

[05:32] did the people elect. This was bubbling

[05:35] up below the surface and I hope that

[05:36] they'll be able to remedy it and I think

[05:38] they can because we want the world's

[05:40] wealthiest man and the world's richest

[05:41] man on the same page. We want them

[05:43] working in harmony. We want them in

[05:46] agreement with another. You saw last

[05:47] week the attempted press conference

[05:49] between President Trump and Elon Musk

[05:51] which was trying to way to try to say,

[05:52] you know, here's a good way of

[05:54] departure. Here's a good way to try to

[05:57] say

[05:57] goodbye. It is unfortunate that we now

[06:00] have to get to the accusations acting as

[06:02] if President Donald Trump is somehow

[06:04] intimately involved with Jeffrey

[06:06] Epstein. Here's President Trump's

[06:08] remarks before the blowup. You can see

[06:10] he's kind of being restrained with the

[06:12] German chancellor. Watch. Uh he said the

[06:15] most beautiful things about me and he

[06:16] hasn't said bad about me personally, but

[06:18] I'm sure that'll be next. But I'm I'm

[06:20] very disappointed in Elon. I've helped

[06:22] Elon a lot. All of this to say that we

[06:26] still have a big, beautiful bill to

[06:28] pass. It's not perfect, but it's good.

[06:30] This is the highest profile legislative

[06:32] fight that we have currently had in our

[06:36] lifetime. And I can't help but think

[06:40] that this is exactly what the media and

[06:42] the Democrats have always wanted. The

[06:44] stoking of this feud,

[06:47] this kind of continuation of this

[06:51] narrative only plays into the New York

[06:54] Times, plays into CNN, and plays into

[06:57] the

[06:59] opposition's playbook. And by the way,

[07:02] just so we're clear, uh Elon Musk got

[07:04] groed by his own AI. Evidence shows that

[07:07] Donald Trump's name is in the Jeffrey

[07:09] Epstein uh flight logs, part of Epstein

[07:11] files, but there's no indication of

[07:12] wrongdoing. The files were released by

[07:14] the Trump administration on February

[07:15] 25th, 2025, contradicting claims that

[07:18] they were withheld to protect him. While

[07:19] speculation persists, no new

[07:21] incriminating details about how Trump

[07:23] have emerged from credible sources. The

[07:25] topic is controversial. Public

[07:26] narratives often differ

[07:29] from certain and public facts,

[07:32] uh, verified facts, I should

[07:35] say. So, it's actually, it's just not

[07:37] true. It is just a heightened food fight

[07:40] between the world's wealthiest man and

[07:42] the world's richest man. I want you to

[07:44] comment below or email me

[07:47] freedom@charlkirk.com. Whose side are

[07:48] you on? Are you on side President Trump

[07:51] or on Elon Musk? You don't even have to

[07:53] take a side. But I will say this,

[07:55] President Donald Trump has been doing

[07:57] this for 10 years. He has been in the

[07:59] arena. He's been in the trenches. He has

[08:01] been fighting with grit and fortitude

[08:03] and everything possibly thrown at him.

[08:06] Elon's been in the fight for Western

[08:07] civilization for a couple years and he's

[08:09] been in the political fight for about 10

[08:12] months. This is a very, very big back

[08:16] and forth, high stakes. But I'll tell

[08:18] you, President Donald Trump's the one

[08:20] that has deserved credit for staying in

[08:22] the arena. I would not want to bet

[08:25] against him in any way, shape, or form.

[08:26] I hope they can remedy this. I hope

[08:28] there can be some sort of healing. The

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[08:58] looking into doing that, too? Hey, Elon,

[09:01] you're welcome to follow me back at any

[09:02] time. But Elon, honestly, I don't take

[09:04] it personally. I always said, "Hey, this

[09:06] is cool that the world's richest man is

[09:07] following me on Twitter. It's cool that

[09:08] I was able to call him for a friend for

[09:10] a certain time." I'm not bitter. I'm not

[09:12] upset. I'm not angry. I'm like, "You

[09:15] know what? It was a cool learning and

[09:16] teaching moment. I got to see how one of

[09:18] the most productive, eccentric, one of

[09:21] the most daring, risk-taking

[09:23] entrepreneurs of generation thought, how

[09:24] he operated. I was able to see kind of

[09:27] how unique President Trump and Elon Musk

[09:29] were and sit I've been at dinners with

[09:31] both of them at Mara Lago and sitting

[09:33] down and see how they think about the

[09:36] world and how they converse one with

[09:38] with one another. That was pretty

[09:39] awesome to see, pretty amazing to

[09:41] witness. And that chapter is coming to

[09:42] an end. So be it. And I'm not bitter

[09:45] about it. Instead, I'm thankful that all

[09:47] this was able to happen. I'm thankful

[09:49] that we are able to have Elon Musk's

[09:50] support. I think this is all going to

[09:52] calm down and there will be better days

[09:53] ahead.

[09:56] And Elon, if you want to follow me back,

[09:58] you're always welcome. If you want to

[09:59] come back to be part of the saving

[10:01] western civilization movement once

[10:02] tensions go down, uh that invite will

[10:05] always be extended because we have to be

[10:07] focused on the true threat to Western

[10:09] civilization. The threat is Marxism. The

[10:12] threat is open borders. The threat is

[10:14] the ever growing portion of

[10:16] totalitarianism. And so with that, we're

[10:19] going to stay focused to make sure the

[10:20] main thing remains the main thing.

[10:23] President Donald Trump is not on the

[10:24] Epstein client list. That's just the

[10:27] silly accusation that has temporarily

[10:29] broke the internet. So text this to your

[10:32] friends and we're going to keep a close

[10:34] eye on the feud between Elon and

[10:37] President Trump. It's not nearly as big

[10:39] of a deal as you might think it is. With

[10:42] that, please comment below your

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[10:48] And I also want to say I actually had

[10:50] another thought come to me which is that

[10:54] when you have two titans, two alphas

[10:57] that are kind of going back and forth

[11:00] with one another, it is

[11:02] understandable, it is very normal that

[11:05] neither is going to bend the knee. You

[11:07] have to wonder what what nuclear war

[11:10] could you go above than accusing

[11:12] somebody of being in the Epstein files.

[11:15] And as we're doing this right now, I'm

[11:16] sure President Trump is cooking up

[11:18] another salvo to launch at Elon. But

[11:22] understand, our movement is bigger than

[11:24] just Elon. It's bigger than just one

[11:26] person. This is a nationalist populist

[11:28] movement of people of different

[11:30] backgrounds, different races, and

[11:32] different creeds, different religions

[11:34] coming together to save this beautiful

[11:36] thing called Western civilization. to

[11:38] save the consent of the govern, to save

[11:40] separation of powers, to save the divine

[11:44] providence that we have here in the

[11:47] West. And the enemy would love to do

[11:50] nothing more than to try to tear us

[11:52] apart with venom and with accusation and

[11:56] with kind of a poisonous and pernitious

[11:58] intent. We're going to stay keeping the

[12:01] main thing the main thing. And we are on

[12:04] team America. We hope Elon and President

[12:06] Trump can heal this difference and heal

[12:09] these divides, come to some form of

[12:12] reconciliation because it is after all

[12:14] the reconciliation bill that caused some

[12:18] of the severance. But knowing both of

[12:20] these men and knowing President Trump

[12:22] much better than Elon, but knowing both

[12:23] of these men, I can tell you I think

[12:26] that there's going to be a peace treaty

[12:30] moment, a calming down, a moment

[12:34] where both sides come together and we

[12:38] know that we are stronger against the

[12:39] left than we are divided. Please

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[13:57] about this. What team are you on? I'm on

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