Charlie Kirk Shares His Christian Faith, Testimony, and Why the Bible Is True at Oklahoma Campus Event

[00:00] Are you a Christian by any chance?

[00:01] >> Very, very much so.

[00:02] >> And I want to ask like like why is that

[00:04] exactly?

[00:04] >> Oh, Jesus saved my life. I'm a sinner.

[00:06] Fall short of the glory of God. Gave my

[00:08] life to Christ. Most important decision

[00:09] I ever made.

[00:10] >> So, you believe the Bible is real?

[00:11] >> Yes, I believe the Bible is true and

[00:13] real.

[00:13] >> Why is that?

[00:14] >> Um, well, I could give you the technical

[00:16] answer. There's never been an

[00:17] archaeological discovery that has

[00:18] contradicted the truth of the Bible. Um,

[00:20] we know everything in the Bible as far

[00:22] as the kings, as far as the succession

[00:24] of Israeli rulers to the Jewish people

[00:26] being put in exile to be put back into

[00:28] uh the land of Jerusalem to the

[00:29] destruction of the temple in AD70, all

[00:31] that checks out. There's never been a

[00:33] discovery that's contradicted it from

[00:34] King Hezekiah to King Cyrus to Nehemiah

[00:36] to Zerubbabel to the destruction of the

[00:39] creation of the second temple. Um, and

[00:40] then of course the wisdom. There is not

[00:42] a truth of the Bible that if you apply

[00:43] to your life, your life does not improve

[00:45] dramatically. And then finally, uh, we

[00:47] have the most accurate and transparent,

[00:50] um, the most historically robust

[00:52] account, I should say, uh, that one can

[00:54] have of the most important figure ever

[00:56] to live in the history of the world,

[00:57] Jesus of Nazareth. And Jesus of

[00:59] Nazareth, who was born a virgin birth,

[01:01] what we believe is the incarnation, um,

[01:03] performed miracles all throughout Judea

[01:05] and Samaria, eventually uh, you know,

[01:07] confronted Pharisees, led to a death

[01:08] that he did not deserve, uh, was in the

[01:10] grave for three days, and then rose from

[01:12] the dead. And the resurrection is the is

[01:14] the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did

[01:17] rise from the grave so that we may live.

[01:20] >> So what about like the stories of Greek

[01:21] and Roman mythology? Do you think any of

[01:23] that is real? No.

[01:23] >> So then what makes Christian mythology

[01:25] real?

[01:26] >> Well, give me an example of Christian

[01:27] mythology that I can uh do like

[01:29] creation. So like Genesis

[01:31] >> maybe like like story of like David and

[01:32] Goliath for example.

[01:33] >> Okay. Well, that one's actually pretty

[01:34] easy to deconstruct. Um, a sling is

[01:38] actually a rather lethal weapon,

[01:40] especially for someone in a Judeian

[01:42] tribe that's trained to use a sling of a

[01:44] young age. And Goliath was a rather

[01:46] clumsy individual. And if you're able to

[01:49] pinpoint a rock right between the temple

[01:50] lobe, you can effectively kill or

[01:53] lobomize that individual. So that's

[01:55] hardly mythology.

[01:56] >> All right. So what about what about the

[01:57] story of Satan's fall then? What about

[01:59] that is real

[01:59] >> in Ezekiel? Yeah. So that's not

[02:02] mythology, but that is theology. So in

[02:04] in in the story of Satan's fall in the

[02:06] later books of Ezekiel, we we are told

[02:09] that God created the heavens and the

[02:10] earth. God created the angels and there

[02:12] was a rebellious angel Lucifer who led a

[02:14] rebellion against God and brought

[02:16] one-third of the angels with him and

[02:17] then created what is now is the

[02:19] underworld is the best Hebraic

[02:21] interpretation of that which we now know

[02:22] as hell. I could go through every single

[02:24] story. Jonah and the whale parting of

[02:25] the Red Sea, right? Ahab on Mount Carmel

[02:28] with Elijah. Here's my answer. If

[02:30] Genesis 1:1 and the resurrection is

[02:33] true, anything in the Bible is possible.

[02:35] You're looking at the greatest miracle.

[02:37] The greatest miracle is creation. The

[02:39] fact that we have an ordered,

[02:41] intelligible world where we can exist

[02:44] and that human beings are able to

[02:46] flourish. That is a miracle. In the

[02:49] beginning, God created the heavens and

[02:50] the earth. In Hebrew, that is better. In

[02:51] the beginning. And then the fact that

[02:53] Jesus rose from the dead. I say, "How do

[02:54] you know that Jesus rose from the dead?"

[02:56] Well, show me another historical piece

[02:58] of a story where so many people

[03:01] willingly died a brutal death for a lie.

[03:04] Every single person around him had

[03:06] everything to lose and yet they went to

[03:08] the absolute death from Paul to Peter to

[03:10] the halfb brotherther of James saying

[03:12] that Jesus is Lord. Jesus rose from the

[03:14] dead. Not to mention, if you were going

[03:15] to fake a story, you would not use

[03:17] female witnesses in the ancient world.

[03:18] In the scriptures, it said that the fe

[03:20] the women were the first one to see

[03:22] Jesus Christ. If you're trying to fake a

[03:23] story, you would never do that. Not to

[03:25] mention the 500 people that saw Jesus

[03:26] after he rose from the dead doubting

[03:27] Thomas and then the later church that uh

[03:30] lived under persecution uh under the

[03:32] belief that Jesus Christ was the son of

[03:33] God.

[03:34] >> All right, one last question. Do you

[03:36] think do you think Christianity should

[03:37] be forced onto everybody?

[03:38] >> No. No. Uh I don't believe Christianity

[03:40] should be forced. Then it's not love.

[03:41] It's

[03:42] >> so we believe that God loves you so he

[03:44] will not force you. And so if you reject

[03:46] God, you will go to hell. I hope that's

[03:48] not the case for you guys because you

[03:50] can give Jesus Christ. You can live life

[03:51] eternal. But it's a love story, not a

[03:53] force story. And so it's it's this

[03:55] option in front of you. Will you

[03:56] surrender in front of the cross? The

[03:57] cross is this idea that the perfect, the

[04:00] divine, came down and took a human form

[04:02] and died the most brutal death the

[04:04] ancient world knew. The most torturous,

[04:05] brutal death that someone could possibly

[04:07] know and then rose from the dead to

[04:08] defeat deaths that you could live

[04:09] forever. And so it's a gift there right

[04:11] in front of you. If you take that gift,

[04:12] it transforms you from within, changes

[04:14] your life. You have joy and happiness

[04:16] that you otherwise would not have. And

[04:18] but you have a conscious choice to

[04:19] reject that. And um I hope you don't.

[04:22] And if you reject that then uh the you

[04:24] will go where you want to go which is um

[04:27] in absence and the furthest distance one

[04:29] can be from the divine.

[04:30] >> I wanted to ask you if you would um mind

[04:32] sharing your testimony with us and how

[04:35] Christ saved you.

[04:36] >> I uh I gave my life to the Lord in fifth

[04:38] grade in the cyber of Chicago Christian

[04:40] Heritage Academy. It was presented

[04:42] incredibly well. I knew the stakes. I

[04:44] understood the consequences that I don't

[04:46] earn salvation. I don't do good things

[04:48] to get to heaven. But I am so broken. I

[04:51] fall short of the glory of God every

[04:52] day. I covet. I envy. I have jealousy.

[04:56] And we have a fleshly nature because we

[04:58] are postgarden that we need Jesus. And I

[05:01] gave my life to the Lord and made Jesus

[05:02] Christ the chairman of the board of my

[05:04] life in fifth grade. And every year as I

[05:06] grow, that means more to me. The more I

[05:08] realize how broken and how sinful I am

[05:10] and how much the world needs Jesus. Um,

[05:13] and the more I study the word and I

[05:15] study the scripture, the more I want to

[05:16] bring it to people that are lost. And

[05:18] you might be here on this campus and

[05:20] it's a little different here in Oklahoma

[05:22] because in some ways you guys might feel

[05:23] inundated because you're in the Bible

[05:25] belt um and you guys all might, you

[05:27] know, grow up around Christianity and

[05:29] Charlie, you've heard enough of this

[05:30] Jesus thing. I would just say for you

[05:32] guys, especially in college, pursue a

[05:34] relationship with Jesus Christ more than

[05:36] anything else. Look at Jesus as someone

[05:38] in a personal and intimate relationship.

[05:41] Understand the character. And this is

[05:43] what makes this is what makes our Lord

[05:45] and Savior so different is that he was

[05:47] 100% grace and 100% truth but also fully

[05:50] man and fully God. I mean that's a

[05:52] mind-blowing proposition, right? And so

[05:55] that Jesus Christ walked on this earth

[05:58] as a human being and went through some

[06:00] of the same struggles that you went

[06:02] through is a remarkable thing. But

[06:04] that's not to say though that he affirms

[06:06] your sins or that he will say that it's

[06:08] okay that you're watching pornography or

[06:10] you're sleeping around or anything.

[06:12] Instead, he understood the temptation

[06:14] and he is there to challenge you and

[06:16] elevate you to live a godly and moral

[06:18] life. And so I know a lot of people

[06:21] might be a little sour on religion. I

[06:23] actually love the world word religion. I

[06:25] can't stand when people say, "Well, I'm

[06:27] spiritual, not religious." You need

[06:28] religion because that's structure and

[06:30] that's order. It's a whole separate

[06:32] topic. I'm happy. But in college at the

[06:34] LA the one thing you need is a

[06:36] relationship. Make Christ a rel have a

[06:39] relationship with Jesus Christ. Invite

[06:41] him into your life. Read the word every

[06:43] single day. Know what he believed and

[06:45] know what he said.

[06:46] >> Amen.

[06:46] >> Thank you.

[06:47] >> Hey Charlie. Uh thank you for everything

[06:49] you do. You're one of the reasons I

[06:51] started going to the church this year.

[06:53] Um as someone who didn't grow up with

[06:55] religious uh religion, what advice would

[06:57] you give to someone who's trying to

[06:58] welcome religion into their life and

[07:00] find their faith? I love that question.

[07:02] Read your Bible every single day. Um,

[07:05] fight your flesh. Your flesh is going to

[07:07] want to do easy and immediate things

[07:09] like drink and go out and do stuff. Find

[07:12] your aim as a as a man and point

[07:14] everything you can towards it. And

[07:16] spread the good news of God and Jesus

[07:18] Christ in every possible way that you

[07:20] can and put Jesus first in everything

[07:22] that you do.

[07:23] >> Awesome. Thank you. I put a lot of um

[07:27] love for Christ in his teachings. And so

[07:29] since he says to render unto Caesars's

[07:31] that which is Caesars's and unto God

[07:33] which is God's, my fear is that we can

[07:36] often render unto Caesar what actually

[07:38] belongs to God. So I was hoping you

[07:40] could clarify for us and also for the

[07:42] people who are shouting against you in

[07:44] the back. Could we clarify like what

[07:47] like what is the social reign of Christ?

[07:49] What does it look like? What's your

[07:50] vision for it? And how has your faith

[07:53] impacted your political beliefs?

[07:55] >> Yeah, that's that's a great question. Um

[07:58] there is no such thing as separation of

[08:00] morality and state. It does not exist.

[08:02] Every law is a reflection of some agreed

[08:04] upon morality. I believe the teachings

[08:06] of Christianity as the founding fathers

[08:09] did instruct our basic moral code. The

[08:11] decalogue is a great place to start. The

[08:13] ten commandments is the is the

[08:15] decalogue. I believe that Christ though

[08:17] is even above our government who says

[08:19] his kingdom is not of this world. But we

[08:21] should contest in the public square to

[08:24] do what Christ wanted us to be, which is

[08:26] salt and light in every domain and

[08:28] arena. That means protecting the unborn.

[08:31] That means making sure that crime is

[08:33] not, you know, our streets are not

[08:34] riddled with crime. And also the ideas

[08:36] of private property, the ideas of

[08:38] freedom of speech, the idea these are

[08:40] all biblical ideas at their core.

[08:42] >> I think the American founders struck it

[08:44] correctly, which is that it's a

[08:46] Christian foundation with a free society

[08:48] that grows out of it. Okay. I just

[08:51] wanted to hear that. Thank you very

[08:52] much. Appreciate it.

[08:53] >> God bless. God bless you.

[08:54] >> Thank you.

[08:54] >> I have an opinion of somebody who's a

[08:58] fool. And I think you would agree with

[08:59] it. Somebody who worships the creation

[09:02] rather than the creator.

[09:04] >> Like Romans 1.

[09:05] >> Like Romans 1. That's what that's what's

[09:06] on my sign here. Let's let's let

[09:08] everybody see it. Um I do have a point

[09:11] though. As a Christian, I want to see

[09:15] everyone here's heart turn from the

[09:17] creation to the creator. Maybe they're

[09:19] worshiping themselves, but I want to see

[09:20] them turn to the creator. And I think

[09:23] you you think something similar. And

[09:24] when I look at the New Testament, I see

[09:26] that the way that's going to come about

[09:28] is through preaching the gospel, right?

[09:30] But I also want society to change. So my

[09:34] question for you is more of an advice

[09:35] question. um as a Christian who wants to

[09:38] see the world changed through the death

[09:40] and resurrection of Jesus, how much of

[09:42] my effort should be put towards

[09:45] preaching the gospel and how much of it

[09:47] should be spent lobbying for policies.

[09:49] What's more effective? And you know,

[09:50] maybe it's not an either or thing, but I

[09:52] think a lot of times uh especially

[09:54] conservative Christians will uh take the

[09:57] policies without ever telling anybody

[09:59] about Jesus.

[09:59] >> Well, we need both, right? So, first and

[10:01] foremost, uh thank you. Everyone should

[10:03] give their life to Jesus. is the most

[10:04] important thing that anybody can do in

[10:06] your life. Number one,

[10:10] we we have seen a hyper feminized gospel

[10:12] the last 20 or 30 years and it's a big

[10:14] problem. We need a resurgence of a

[10:16] masculine gospel, which is one that is

[10:18] unafraid of telling the consequences of

[10:20] sin, right? Well, the sin and hell. So,

[10:23] we talk a lot about a savior, but how

[10:25] can you possibly know you need a savior

[10:27] if you don't talk about sin? And so, how

[10:29] do you know you need a savior if you

[10:30] don't know what you're being rescued

[10:31] from? And so we need to instruct and

[10:34] talk about how we all for all of us

[10:36] myself included all of us on a daily

[10:38] basis fall short of the glory of God. We

[10:40] are violating many of the ten

[10:42] commandments almost every single day.

[10:43] And we need Jesus to save us from our

[10:45] wretched, depraved natural nature of um

[10:50] being broken. So what does that mean for

[10:52] you? Well, we we need all parts of the

[10:54] body. The first of which I believe in

[10:56] Galatians 3, it says that the law is a

[10:58] guardian or a school teacher to Christ.

[11:00] that for some people they are going to

[11:02] come to Christ by first thinking through

[11:04] conservative values and principles and

[11:06] seeing it make sense and once they start

[11:07] drinking from the streams of liberty

[11:09] they're going to want to find its source

[11:11] cuz liberty is not man's idea liberty is

[11:13] God's idea

[11:14] >> and for other people though it's

[11:16] outright preaching the gospel here's my

[11:18] last piece of advice though do not just

[11:20] preach the gospel and try to get

[11:22] converts of all nations we are called to

[11:24] make disciples of all nations which

[11:26] means you must go deep you must preach

[11:28] the entirety of the word of God every

[11:30] word. You must be expositional in the

[11:32] way that you do it, but you must make

[11:34] people understand that there is a

[11:36] judgment coming for all of them. There's

[11:38] a God who loves them that sent his son

[11:39] on a rescue mission to save us from

[11:41] that. Amen. And it's not just it's not

[11:44] just all rolling hills and loveydovey

[11:46] messaging.

[11:47] >> I'm with you. Thank you.

[11:48] >> Thank you, man. God bless you. Thank

[11:49] you.