If Ben Shapiro was taken out next and God forbid, would Israel be behind that, too? I mean, that would be equally ridiculous. If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday, people would be saying, "Israel did it. Shapiro was about to become a national socialist." Like, what? It's crazy. Now, this brings us to the conspiracies. Um obviously the first one uh look I write the Jews Josh just write the Jews and uh he is writing oh two O's very nice early ebomb so >> you don't get banned I guess >> now and to be clear there here's the problem there are many different variations of Israel did this and I can't tell you 100% that that is verifiable Andrew, I cannot say that. I I genuinely can't say that because we don't have all of the information. I don't think it's very likely. And there's a lot of misrepresentation, including of uh their own champions for this conspiracy theory uh theory out there. Some people are trying to say that Tucker Carlson's speech at the memorial was alluding to Israel playing a role, and before you go to the clip, playing a role in Charlie Kirk's assassination. Here's the thing. Very important context, too. As off-putting as this clip will seem to some, he's actually not addressing Charlie Kirk within this context. He's talking about Jesus. And then he drew an analogy, >> right, >> to Charlie Kirk. Because again, a lot of people think he's saying, "So, people eating hummus, you know what that means, and let's kill Charlie Kirk." He's talking about the crucifixion of Christ and how it backfired. But here's the clip. So, it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do which is telling the truth about people and they hate it and they just go bonkers. They hate it and they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us. We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I could just hear him say, "I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem." It doesn't work that way. Okay, now I'm again in defense of Tucker, right? He was talking about again people say, "Oh, hummus, Hamas." He's talking about people who in Jesus's time would have come up with a brilliant idea to crucify Jesus. I don't know if you know this, uh, hummus would probably be something there in the Middle East along with olives and figs. >> I don't typically think of the Jews when I think of hummus. But Tucker is drawing an analogy. He's saying, and he goes on right after that to say it's that's not what happens. This is inverted. when they tried to silence the message of Christ. And and to be clear, people out there that are saying Jesus wasn't going after them. Yes, he was. He was telling the truth about how whitewashed tombs were over here. These people were a brood of vipers. Like he was going after the Sanhedrin, the rulers of that time, telling truth about what they believed and what they didn't believe. So Tucker's been he's spot on in his analogy here. Yeah. Saying that it absolutely backfired and the message just spread more. >> Saying they tried to silence Charlie's message the very same way. Not meaning that the Jews did, but people did. Right. And then there's this other thing I just want to clarify really quickly and I understand that people get like off the board. Ian Carol and Candace Owens have gone way further on talking about the Jews maybe have done this. Yeah. Than Tucker Carlson. To try to shoehorn this into Tucker saying the same thing is is difficult. I understand it. But look, one of the other things is like saying that the Jews weren't responsible for Jesus's death. Of course, the Sanhedrin was what the body that turned Jesus over to be crucified by the Romans. Yes, the Roman Gentiles killed Christ, even though Pilot said he found no fault with him, but it was the ruling party that did it. You have to be able to acknowledge history and not be accused of a blood label as well. So, I'm not sure why there's so much going back and forth on this particular clip other than the crazy laugh, right? >> That to me is the most off-putting thing that happened in the entire thing. It's like that laugh is never appropriate in any context. >> Well, because there's a pause there's a pause between his own statement and a laugh which comes across as disingenuous. And there's also not a laugh from the audience that I like nervous energy I guess for him. I don't know what it comes across like evil villainike >> or crazy. >> It did. It came across as villain. >> I'm not saying he's crazy. I'm just saying it sounds >> villain and his layer talking to himself. >> Inspector Gadget, I will ruin your helicopter jacket. >> You're like, "Oh, that's the evil laugh." Yeah, >> we're not laughing. And you waited a second before you said it. All right. Uh, also we do have just some other images uh to to give credence to the idea that he was wearing potentially a plate carry. Can you bring this up? >> Yep. So, >> so these are the images well before the shooting where people are pointing to saying it looks like he might have been wearing something. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, a couple of these. Now, again, that could just and it's tough to know because there's soft, there are soft plates, there are hard plates, they're they are approved being familiar with these for for different types of threats, right? You have 3A, which is, I think, up till up to 44 Magnum, and then uh level three, which is up to certain rifle calibers, and level four is what you really need to stop uh some of the higher velocity steel core bullets. So, at the very least, it doesn't seem like you would have had um level four. Mhm. But it could alter the trajectory of the bullet. In other words, there are a lot of maybe, could be, but it doesn't mean that it is. So, Tucker did that. Uh, and again, I want to defend what that is not what he was saying there at all. And hopefully he'll clarify. I don't think that he should be tred and feathered with an opinion that he didn't express. Others online have been far more clear. They believe Israel MSAD did it because this is of course the hallmark of MSAD. Uh, a boltaction antique Mouser 306 with a poorly mounted scope. That's what they send their special agents out with. >> They got a small budget. >> Yeah, exactly. They're recycling weapons. >> Yeah. They just sort of when it comes to intel or false flags, they just like, you know, they're a little bit hamfisted. >> Forgive them. >> Hamfisted. That's not what they are. >> That was a little underhand there. >> That was a little bit just to send some the Jews way. Now, of course, uh Candace Owens, and this is again not an indictment. I some people may be genuine. Some people may be operating with information that is incomplete. And there are some people who may be pushing false information. And it may be a little column A, column B, column C. Candace Owens, of course, is one of the more mainstream voices or one who is mainstreaming this idea that Charlie Kirk was taken out by in one capacity or another uh them Jews >> in the Hamptons. and he had um more than one event, but he had uh essentially what was staged an an intervention was staged by Bill Aman because Charlie's thoughts Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no no. This is this is not the route that you should be going on. And Charlie was surrounded by his friends, his quote unquote friends. Uh, Bill Aman was very upset and threats were made. >> Now, we've already addressed that because Bill Aman did address it. The producers did address it. And of course, we showed some of the clips where Charlie Kirk was critical of >> those representatives telling him that he couldn't even question some uh Israeli policy as far as government. All that we covered in an episode last week. Please go check that out. But Candace Owens also suggested it could have been, by the way, the Mcron and she has the receipts to prove it. Yes. Oh, >> the next receipt will be whether it's red or not. >> As a completely, by the way, completely as an aside here, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole, but who here had a head of state head of state in the front Miss Mcronone having to show her snatch in court to prove that she's a woman in a lawsuit against Candace Owens on their political bingo card this year. >> Ooh. See, I don't think that's convincing. It's not. >> I think it makes me side with Candace. >> Yeah, Candace might be right. >> Who added the >> I thought that was you, Josh. You know who it was. >> Uh, here's the truth on on this conspiracy. Like we said, there's there there's really is no basis for it. Bill Aman, Charlie's producer, both responded in detail refuting the claim. Does that mean I get it. He said, she said, Gentile said, Jew said. Um, but you have to again look at everything that we have. the what we know, the time, the history, the backlog of this person being radicalized, which and I I want to be very clear here. This is important. This is not a game if we are being hunted. And by that I mean you're just one step away. You're just one viral clip or tweet away from being the next trophy on someone's mantle. You guys understand that, right? In other words, is it too far-fetched to believe that the left can be radicalized to the point of violence? Well, you saw the summer of love. You saw the attempted assassinations on Donald Trump. You've seen this year in and year out. So, AAM's razor is the left is violent. And the left's reality is so warped that my god, they might even celebrate on mass this kind of assassination. I mean, even just look at that this is me talking opinion. I don't see overwhelming celebration from the Jews or people in Israel at all over the death of Charlie Kirk. I see it from the left. I see more than 50% of the left justifying it in some capacity according to the recent Yuggov poll. So the simplest explanation is wouldn't the group of people many tens of millions in this country who were gleefully celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk be most in line with the person who carried it out? It doesn't seem implausible to me at all. As a matter of fact, it seems heartbreakingly predictable and that we saw this coming in one capacity or another. And this theory to many is is is ridiculous to even the point uh that Nick Fuentes himself, who is not known as a huge fan of the Jews, said this can't be taken seriously. >> Time to wake up, guys. some of this. I'll be the first one to say the conspirator skitso thing, it's getting a little out of control and that's coming from me. I mean, it's like we are truly through the looking glass when Charlie Kirk is assassinated. People blame Israel. I who fought Charlie Kirk because he was pro-Israel am said to are I'm being said to be covering up that he was killed for this miraculous conversion if Ben Shapiro was taken out next and God forbid would Israel be behind that too? I mean that would be equally ridiculous if it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday. People would be saying Israel did it. Shapiro was about to become a national socialist. Like what? It's crazy. I don't want to say a little bit of a taste of his own medicine because, you know, people were said to me like people have told me that my grandparents were in were were cousins because I'm an inbred Ashkanazi. I mean, here's the thing, and this is not to insult the Ashkanazi Jews. Uh, I do not look like them. >> You don't. I don't. >> Generally speaking, nor do you. >> No, neither do I. But when you have Dave Smith, Daryl Cooper, and Nick Fuentes sounding like the voice of reason on Israel, you're like, "Wait a minute. Wait, what? What world am I living in now?" >> And this is not to say that MSAD doesn't carry out covert operations. They do, by the way. So does the CIA. I know that. And one of the worst I've talked about this, one of the worst, we'll probably have to do a segment on this is the French. When it comes to espionage, I think that's the reason it's called espionage. It's the French word for it. They're dicks. >> They started it. Yes. >> They're really, really bad at it. Um, and you could honestly, if you're going to say, hey, an international uh agency being, you could argue the French would have more of a vested interest in destroying the voice of someone who is antisocialist in this country, has been descending into socialism for many, many decades. You could make that case, too. I want to be very clear as well. Miss Erica Kirk, Mrs. Erica Kirk, please don't hang me on if I say Miss Mrs. Erica Kirk is going to be discussing these claims on uh the show with Alex Clark at TPUSA. I believe that's later this evening. I think it's 6 p.m. It's it's called Apothecary, I think, the show. So, Miss Erica Kirk will be there addressing this. And I also know that many people out there, there's nothing they will say, well, she's compromised. She has to say this >> because no matter what she says, >> I think that her word counts for a lot in this. >> Yeah. >> Especially in tandem with TPUSA producers, um, organizers. I would give that more weight than people online who've clearly already gotten one or two facets of this story wrong. This brings us to conspiracy number uh two out there. And this is one that you've seen, the the reassembling and disassembling gun. This has been out there. And just to be clear, the clip I'm about to show you, this person is someone who I've watched a few times, is usually very good. I don't believe that this person is being dishonest. I want to be clear. I don't want to get into some kind of uh urinating contest. I just think that like many of you, they have some information that all of us sort of assume to be true. And then once you do some digging and search, you find out it's based on nothing. But this idea that there is no way the shooter could have assembled the gun on the roof, then disassembled it, gotten off the roof, and reassembled it before throwing it into the woods because a screwdriver was left on the roof. So this is the disassembling reassembling gun and it's used as a lynch pin for some of the conspiracies out there. Here's a clip and then a collage. >> So what the FBI is also telling you is that he reassembled the rifle before he dumped it in the bushes as he's fleeing the scene of how do he reassemble the rifle if he accidentally left his screwdriver up on the roof. >> And you're seeing this all over ex um people echoing this. >> This one is is is really simple. Um, no one, and I haven't seen this from the FBI, no one has said that he disassembled the rifle right after the first shot, that he reassembled it. As a matter of fact, can we roll that footage again of him jumping off the rooftop? The story, whether you believe it or not, the story that has been told is that he assembled the rifle, put it back together. There's some debate over whether it was a scope or actually the rifle itself. kind of can be separated into two main components to simplify uh this. I know there will be some uh gun autists out there who will argue, but you know what I'm saying. Uh it looks like he jumps off this roof with a rifle in a towel that seems to be fully assembled and there's nothing unreasonable about that. >> I can fast forward. >> Yeah, fast forward to the zoom in part, please. That's coming up. Yeah. Okay. So, you guys see that there? Yeah. All right. But I am finding and you guys can let me know if there's something official from the intelligence community because again, I've said they've done a horrible job. If they're putting that out there, then they deserve to be called on it because that makes this whole thing far less believable as a story. Mhm. >> I'm not seeing anywhere that he disassembled, reassembled it on the roof, and then disassembled it again, which actually means I'm I want to jump to another conspiracy because it ties into that. So, if you guys can follow me here, um it is the uh outfit change. So, uh we'll call it number three, but it's actually number four because in combination, these two have been used to suggest, well, how did he do all this? changing outfits, assembling a gun, shooting, disassembling the gun, changing an outfit on the roof, then jumping off, changing outfits, reass like, but no one's saying that, >> right? >> This is a game of telephone where people hear the perverted, the bastardized version of telephone and then go, "Wow, well, that doesn't seem reasonable." And I agree with you. If you believe that that was the story or the timeline, yeah, what you're being presented with, a falsehood, would make sense. So, the next conspiracy number three is that the shooter changed outfits so many times, but there's no footage. Let me read this. This is the magical outfit changes. Yeah, there you go. Um, this is a post on X. This is how stupid they think you are. Charlie Kirk shooter wore one set of clothes to the shooting. Quote, changed clothes on the roof before he fled. Quote, without being seen on camera changing and then changed clothes at home after he fled, just before he hanged, I think means changed his clothes again. So, let's look at this. This would mean he wore one set of clothes to the shooting. Let's count this. Give me a ding. One outfit. Changed clothes on the roof before he fled. Two outfits without being seen on camera. Uh then changed clothes at home before he fled. >> After he fled. >> After he fled. Sorry. Number three. Just before he changed his clothes again. Four. What? >> Okay. Where are they getting that? >> Well, the quot So someone put in quotes, which is not an actual quote. >> No, none of it's a quote. >> None of it's a quote. So four outfit changing themselves. >> Yeah. Here's the thing. According to what I have seen and the footage, there are only two outfits. And the only change that would have needed to take place would have been between that outfit number one, 8:07 a.m. and 11:49. And then maybe one outfit change, if that Dairy Queen photo is proven to be correct, within the span of seven hours or so. But we're only really looking at this record here and seeing two changes. And they justify this theory from this this clip. Utah governor, who I believe misspoke just as I did earlier, as we often do, saying, "Yeah, you know, the one outfit and then the other outfit changed, you know, on the roof, saying the different outfit on the roof." Watch this clip. When he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on and then he changes clothing on the roof and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when when he was uh when he was apprehended when he when he was arrested, um the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UVU. >> So again, play that again. I'm trying to be gracious here. That just seems like someone in a different outfit there on the roof. Play it again. When he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on and then he changes clothing on the roof and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when when he was uh when he was apprehended when he when he was arrested, the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting. Here >> pause one. So apprehended was the next day, >> right, >> at his parents the next day. In other words, he's just saying you could have changed back to the clothing that you saw that morning before the next evening. And he says, "Change clothing on the roof." Sounds like what he's saying to me. It's not a direct quote saying we know that he changed his outfit on the roof. He's saying you see the different the different outfit that you saw when he was on the roof versus the earliest that we have at ADM. So, and it's very clear that that's what he's trying to say. Just to give you some other data, we we played that, but when we saw him on that same Ring camera at about 1149, 1150, he was in the same clothing that he ended up taking the shot with. >> It seems very Yeah, we can't confirm exactly, but let's play that again. >> Uh this is the uh uh clip limp shooter V2. Uh let's play that. So, you see this is him walking at 11:49, 11:51, >> right? There he is. >> Looks to be in the same clothing. >> Looks to be in the same clothing cuz it's all >> black >> pants, >> right? deal. >> Relatively flowing pants, whatever you want to say. And then show clip shooter jump V3. >> Mhm. >> Which again, yeah, please. >> Doesn't look to be any different of an outfit. And certainly does not look like the outfit that he was wearing at >> 807, >> which was like shorts and I think a different colored shirt, too. So unless you are taking that clip of that governor saying that as literally he changed an outfit on the roof, you only need to understand for the official story, whether you accept it or not, is that at 8:07 he had one outfit and he changed outfits at some point between 8:07 a.m. and 11:49 a.m. until he carried out the shooting and ran away. >> Yeah. Which is very reasonable. >> That by the way, that would be me every day because I go if I go to the gym. It's true. We're going to change an outfit. Were you about to say something, Noodles? >> They just sent in. They have the the limp walk video isolated on the left versus the two that actually came from the school uh camera. >> Okay. So, again, >> same same outfit. Yeah. Same outfit. >> Him walking. Ring camera footage. Same outfit. Him getting to the roof, jumping off the roof. And here's what is important. You would have to make an intellectually inconsistent leap to say, "No, no, no. I believe 100% that he changed out for that and the story that he disassembled, reassembled and and changed out. How how could he disassemble the rifle on the roof, change outfits, and jump off that fast? Well, it doesn't look like the rifle was disassembled when he jumped off. And it doesn't look like his outfit was any different than he walked up with a rifle in an outfit and jumped off in the same outfit with a rifle and a towel. I I believe me, it it pains me. I don't trust our intelligence agencies. And I think that the FBI is in a horrible job in communicating this and they could put a lot of this to bed, but all of that honestly seems like the most reasonable course of action for someone doing this. >> Yeah. And he has plenty of time to do all of this. That's why it would be a problem is because he doesn't have enough time, >> right, >> to do all these things. If it is disassembling the rifle after the shot, taking Yes. time to change clothes and do that multiple times. He has plenty of time in this timeline to do everything that he did. Plenty of time. >> Yes. Um, and again, if you look at shootings or you look at people carrying out crime, the first thing they do is change outfits once they're away from the scene of the crime. >> Yeah. So, seven hours seems like a reasonable amount of time to put on some basketball shorts, whatever the hell. All right. >> Uh, here's the next conspiracy number three. And by the way, we're going to stay wide with this and then take your chats on Rumble Premium. Um, Mug Club is Rumble Premium. You can click that button and join. We're not able to do any of this if not for you. I hope you understand why we started late today. It was very important that we get this right. Oh, sorry. It's conspiracy number four. I'm sorry. That's right. >> It's number three in our our our list, but we changed them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz the outfit and disassembling kind of ties together. >> Uh conspiracy number four, the disappearing bullet. And you see this from a lot of people saying there's no way this was not a 306 from a rooftop sn uh from a rooftop sniper. There's no way that's the case. >> The bullet is coming in from somewhere in this direction or somewhere in this direction. what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself. >> I would say it's a smaller caliber than a 30 6. A 30 6 would make a much bigger hole. It hits bone and it projects itself outward. >> No, I'm not even disagreeing that in general that would be true, >> right? >> Um it's not an uncommon caliber for for hunting. I mean, I have plenty of relatives who've hunted with 306 and killed many deer. Um, and usually it leaves a very large exit wound. Just as surely, we have relatives who will tell you that sometimes bullets do weird things and sometimes there isn't an exit wound or sometimes the entrance wound it looks like the deer was hit by a car. I was there one time. We were shocked. My uncle shot a deer and they said, "What' you what'd you do? You run it over with your truck?" Cuz it was just you just hit it at a a weird soft tissue angle. >> So, this wasn't helped at all by the surgeon who worked on Charlie at the hospital. And there was, I believe, someone, it was a producer releasing this on X saying, "I have permission to do so." Where he said his bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he's like the man of steel, it should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him, too. He was talking about how it was a miracle. Um, first off, if it's a miracle, then you can't, you know, it defies science and reason. Um, but again, this doesn't seem like super responsible. Uh, it's it's difficult. It just needs to say that it's there, you know, that they have the bullet there. And I think what he was trying to say is that, you know, that other people could have been killed behind him if it had gone through the the tent to the back. There were people standing back there, they said. So it could have gone back there and killed people. It's fine to say that like but it didn't exit, but you don't have to go into that. >> But they have the round. >> I don't He said he found it under the skin. >> He said he did. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So he said he did again last report. >> Again, these are the things where it's like these aren't official reports. That's the problem with things on social media where they're not necessarily verified. But he said that he found it under the skin. I saw that in the report. I don't know if that's really official. It could because it could also be a fragment. >> Right. >> Right. It could also there are a multitude of explanations and you even talked about this how >> again you saw the original footage. >> Yeah. >> When people say oh if it's a 30 odd six it guaranteed would have decapitated him. Well that's silly. >> Yeah. >> It wouldn't guaranteed decapitate him. >> No. No. It's not a guaranteed decapitation. I think probably unlikely to decapitate him. Uh, but you know, RS can do all kinds of crazy things depending on on how much it's, you know, it's how many times you hear a doctor say, "Oh, I was millimeters away from killing you. You were middle millimeters away from surviving, >> right?" >> Um, they could do a lot of different things. And when I first saw it, I honestly I thought it came from the back. >> So, it looked like an exit. >> Does it look like an exit wound? >> Um, >> but uh not seeing anything on the back >> kind of suggest that it went in right here. >> Right. And like you were talking about, let's say, you know, a nick, right, would be this. But with a 30, considering how much damage it could do, if it's less than a nick, but let's say just hits the side of the tissue, not the spine, >> right? That could cause one large >> Yeah. hole in a gape. >> In that case, you would expect to find the round somewhere else to have gone through. But if he did have, you know, some strong milk drinking bones, then uh fragment was left behind or >> or if he did have some kind of a plate, >> right? That could change the We don't know. It doesn't >> change velocity for sure. >> Or if it hit, let's say, for example, we know that we've done this, it could have hit one of the posts of the canopy that he had, right? That can I'm not saying it would stop a bullet, but that can change the velocity dramatically. Yeah. And there have been far more bizarre cases of bullet behavior than this. Even though it, this is the one thing I would say seems unlikely for it not to have an exit wound. And I won't say seems unlikely based on the the damage was so severe, guys, if you wa if you watch it. No, it wasn't a decapitation. Thank god. But it was so graphic you'll never unsee it. It was immediate blood loss that would lead to instant death. >> Yeah. Unless the unless the entry wound was somewhere uh back here, I would I would expect that that would be like basically two an entry and an exit wound making one big hole because of the >> limited space that it did that it did hit. >> Yeah. And so we don't know that. But here's something that we do know. Here's a truth is that um there have been many many many witnesses. So you would have to believe that many of these people are on the payroll as well because this has then been used to act the springboard for conspiracies of of course second shooter. Right. >> Uh I've even seen some as I've even seen some so crazy as it was an inside job where someone had a detonation device >> that yeah on his lav that shot him in the neck. And by the way I'm not just like this is you're talking about millions of people have seen this. I've seen people saying look they're clearly shot doing hand signals >> to uh take part in inside job. Like you can't address all of them. But here's the truth. There were many many witnesses and not a single one described potentially the shooter at another angle. Right? They described the shot as a single shot sounding like a bang or a firecracker. Um, one account Isaac Davis, a student there told the New York Times, "It was definitely noticeable, but it sounded almost like a firecracker." Um, I do think here the uh this is where the actual report, the medical report will be of significance. >> Yeah. >> And we don't have it yet. And you can say that you won't trust that medical report. Okay, fine. >> Right. But I certainly wouldn't trust someone who has no medical report and anything beyond the footage that you have access to. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's the thing that I've wanted to ask people is like I understand maybe you have some difficulty with some of the information coming out right now, but I do too. What's the alternative theory that you have evidence for, not just the fact that you're thinking something else could have happened, >> right? >> You know, Stu Peters was in that that collage of people that said Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I mean, he didn't he didn't mince any words about it. I'm like, okay, well, what evidence do you have that that is true? like you're making a claim, support it. And that's they're not saying that this assassin didn't do it, that there was other people. Yeah. >> They're saying specifically that Israel killed them. And I'm like, okay, well, why what what happened? >> Here's here's also the irony for me. If people are saying that, um these are often the same people who were vehemently against Donald Trump uh hitting the nuclear facilities in Iran where there were there was no known collateral damage. Right. The most effective >> because we're doing it for Israel. That was the whole thing. >> But that's my point. Someone says Israel killed Charlie Kirk, >> that's a declaration of war. And we bombed the out of multiple loces as it relates to Israeli government. Just so you know, if Israel had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, >> I would be front and center saying we have to declare, not they're not our allies. Declare war against Israel. Comment below if you'd be in that camp. >> France Ferdinand style. >> There you go. Yeah. And so it's just funny to me that people who claim to want peace and that we don't want to fight wars for Israel are making a declarative statement that in any circumstance would be a declaration of war. >> War. Yeah. I don't see how you'd get around that. And the other thing is that Netanyahu came out and apologize, not apologize, sorry. They're saying he's trying to cover up by coming out and saying, "Hey, how bad it is that Charlie Kirk was shot." And they're like, "Well, why would a world leader come out and do that?" And it's like, "Well, I don't know. Maybe he's got some people going, "Hey, they're blaming us again for this," you know, and he's like, "Listen, we didn't have anything to do with this. This is a very sad day." >> Maybe Charlie Kirk visited Israel and it's well it's well documented through video and pictures. >> They're supposed to have had direct communications >> and he's had communications with us. In other words, it makes complete sense. It's also not crazy to think that one of our uh quote unquote greatest allies would speak on this. I mean, they tried to they tried to get a moment of silence. I can't remember who did it at the UN. Try to get a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk. It didn't happen, but other world leaders were obviously weighing in. >> They tried to do it in our own in our own halls, in our own our own house, and they said, "No." >> Remember that? Well, they they want that's a direct quote. Great impression. >> Yeah. Yeah. They didn't want to do a verbal prayer or something. >> Something like that. >> That was their official response. >> It was it was a prayer issue because >> they got a lot of uh non-Christians on the left. >> Yeah. I don't care. That was the longest filibuster ever was just some cackling going. Uh here's the final conspiracy out there. And this one I kind of get uh the planted text messages, right? The planted text messages. Uh and this is where people are saying that the feds clearly planted a curated text exchange between this shooter and this blatantly homosexual gay trans lover >> to just try and wrap this all up in in a nice little bow. Um, okay. I will say these text messages are suspect at best, but that doesn't mean that it's the feds or the Jews. This is not something, by the way, that is uncommon where people go, "Okay, let's get our story straight." Right? So that you don't take any of the fall. That's >> right. Right. I don't know if you believe I didn't know you were my roommate. Okay, we got a text message thread and I'll just make it clear, >> right? That wasn't invented with Breaking Bad. It was reflective of things that have happened many, many times in real life. >> So, let me read you um some of the texts. This is from uh Tyler Robinson to gay homosexual trans boyfriend Lance Twigs. I am still okay, my love, but I am stuck in Orum for a little while longer yet. Why did I do it? I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen sight unseen, I will have left no evidence. Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets? The effing messages are mostly a big meme. If I see notices bulge UW on Fox News, I might have a stroke. The point is, it seems like it also could be weird goths at a Renaissance fair. >> It's true. >> Have you got an update on that stroke situation? >> I I don't know. I don't know. I I hear you smelling burnt toast. >> I'm hopeful. >> Me, too. Um >> I want him to stay around for a while. >> Here's the truth. Yes, these are very suspect, but it's these exchanges were not needed to establish a motive. >> Um, if anything, it seems that the exchange might have been fabricated by this to protect his gay, homosexual, blatantly trans male lover. There are other text messages not being mentioned, by the way, like this one. I'm a female. Come on. >> You got to get all the facts before you start coming up with theories. I don't know if you'll hold up all that well to interrogation, Gerald. >> Although you do like harsh lighting. >> I'll be fine. Hey, really quickly, let me tie these two things together here. Right. So, this this line of text messages seems kind of odd. It could be, of course, something that's, you know, I don't think any of us looked at that and said, "Yeah, totally normal conversation between two gay lovers." >> No, it seems like Todd Sawyer book, >> but yeah. Do you do you So, there is there have been kind of these innuendos that maybe there was a larger group associated with this or at least they knew what was going on. Um, and maybe they're trying to protect their like a Discord server. There's a lot of talk about that. Do you think the FBI statement that we all looked at and go, "Why would you say that?" Do you think that was to make them feel safe? Like, "Hey, this is just one lone nut that we really haven't tied to any leftwing groups." Do you think that's to make sure that these guys don't think, "Hey, we're on to you." Because I I can't think of any other reason that the FBI would release a statement like that right now, saying, "Well, we can't find any evidence of him being, you know, aligned with any leftwing groups." How do you how do you say that with a straight face? I just think they're very imprudent and bad at their look at Cash Patel where he he tweeted out, you know, the um >> I think he said at one point the shooter in custody and said the suspect has been released. There was a switch of it was like, well, hold on a second, >> right? >> You didn't just say in other words, there could be a suspect who is not the shooter, but a suspect involved. They have not been careful with their language. >> No. And that guy was super like that's another thing. >> Well, it wasn't even that guy. It was a different one. I'm not talking about the old man. I'm talking about there was another one where Cash Patel released it. So, >> I think that statement is kind of I mean kind of true though, right? There's no group necessarily >> as far as we know right now >> that they know. I mean I think it's getting convoluted and misunderstood. >> I mean I think Reddit politics is a group because all of them celebrate the murder. Honestly to me that that's enough to qualify as leftwing violence. >> Some kind of an affiliation. >> If a couple of guys in hoods who by the way would vote for a socialist if he was white, if that's considered right-wing violence, I think people on the biggest political message board >> on the on the known internet world celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk should count as a group. Hey, have you been taking part in this group? Have you been celebrating death in this group? Then yeah, you know what? We're going to consider you part of a left-wing extremist group. They have meetups. >> Yeah. Well, and so that's another thing that we don't know that I want to make sure because honestly, now that I think about it, the the two things that I need answers to, I think the most, right? I have no problem with a lot of the other things because I think there's plausible explanations. The the the caliber and and what happened with the bullet and whether there was an armor that it deflected. I think that question needs to be answered. >> Yeah. after he was wearing body armor. Medical report will help us understand that. And also, >> what's up with a guy claiming that he was the shooter immediately after? Because people are saying, "Oh, that was just to try to give him, you know, time to get away." And >> that's what he said. >> No, I think what he said was he was trying to draw attention to the shooter or something like that. >> No, he he said he said that he was trying to give the shooter time to get away. He was not there as a supporter of Charlie Kirk. Another a neighbor of his actually spoke with Fox News right after it happened. The guy that we had on um I forget his name, Austin or Yes. >> Yeah. He he came on. He was the one that went over, saw that, went over and basically tried to get in front of the camera himself to kind of stop that. But the guy had said, "Yeah, it's a friend of mine and he's uh yeah, he's sure he's a little angry and sure he's on a little medication. Yeah, he's a little crazy, but I don't think he would do this." >> Listen, I don't know how cra like you could be crazy. I don't know that the first thought of anybody who's anti Charlie Kirk and even wanted to see that happen is to yell as it happens and and say, "I shot him." >> Oh, it is for people. Maybe, may I just don't think it'd be the very first thought cuz I mean you're standing there, you're angry at somebody and let's say I'm angry at you and I'm looking at you and somebody shoots you. I don't think the first thing that I would do is go, "It was me. It was me." So that that guy could get away. It seems I think you would. >> How fast how fast did the guy stand up and said, "I am Smart." >> I don't know. I think that's >> that's part of putting this thing to bed is to kind of understand the timeline a little bit and make sure that we get the facts straight on it. But I do want an answer to that because I think a lot of people are running with that as a theory. >> I agree with you. Yeah. Hey, do you like what you saw? I don't know how because it's on YouTube and we have to cut all the good parts out. So, you should tune in live weekdays at 11 a.m. Eastern on Rumble. We can still speak freely and even use words like and get and Whoa. You've been here this whole time? >> Yeah. Snuck in.
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