Candace Owens Questions Butler Assassination Attempt After Tucker Carlson Interview With Mario Nafal Reveals Trump Shut Down Investigation

[00:01] All right, you guys. Happy rare Friday.

[00:04] This feels like it's going to be a

[00:05] special episode because we don't

[00:06] normally do Fridays. And since we were

[00:08] off on Monday because I got hit with jet

[00:10] lag pretty badly, we figured that we'd

[00:12] give you a late evening episode. I had a

[00:14] very, very long press day today, so

[00:16] pardon me for running a bit behind

[00:18] schedule. Um, but I'm glad we opted to

[00:20] do this Friday show because boy oh boy

[00:23] did a lot escalate yesterday evening

[00:25] over on X. I mean, Tucker did this

[00:28] interview with Mario Nofl, and it's got

[00:31] me really wondering about Butler.

[00:34] Butler, was it staged? I think that's

[00:36] now a very fair question to ask. Did you

[00:39] guys think it was suspect at any moment

[00:41] that it was staged? I certainly didn't.

[00:43] It was definitely something that I was

[00:44] reticent to even consider before. And if

[00:47] it was staged, by whom exactly? On that

[00:50] note, we received a very bizarre

[00:53] response regarding our FOIA. FOIA

[00:56] request to SAM702. That's that Fort Wuka

[01:00] plane that was carrying one person that

[01:02] we can identify, Bradley Hansel, the

[01:04] under secretary of war, just under Pete

[01:06] Hegsth. Um, so let's just jump right

[01:09] back in. Welcome back to Candace.

[01:26] All right, I'm just kind of taking this

[01:27] informal poll here in the chat and a lot

[01:29] of people are saying yes, staged. Yes,

[01:31] staged. Absolutely staged. But a lot of

[01:33] people also saying I didn't think it was

[01:35] staged when it happened. And that's

[01:36] where I was. I just I don't know. I was

[01:39] uh totally captivated by it. I was

[01:42] saddened by it. I wanted Trump to win

[01:45] because of this assassination attempt.

[01:47] And I don't know where I sit right now

[01:49] uh given this conversation that was

[01:52] started by Tucker Crossing yesterday.

[01:53] So, let's just right at the top here,

[01:56] show you the clip that went absolutely

[01:58] viral yesterday over on X. Tucker uh was

[02:01] joined by Mario Knoff. And here is what

[02:04] he had to say regarding the first assa

[02:07] assassination attempt. I can't believe

[02:09] I'm saying the first assassination

[02:10] attempt of President Trump, which took

[02:12] place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Take a

[02:15] listen

[02:16] >> about Butler. I know that Trump shut

[02:18] down the investigation into Butler. That

[02:20] is a fact. Dan Bongino told me that when

[02:22] he worked at the FBI and um Dan Bonino

[02:26] himself was terrified uh when I spoke to

[02:29] him in December. I It's such a long

[02:31] boring story, but basically I came in

[02:33] into possession I beg your pardon of

[02:35] accidentally came into possession of a

[02:38] lot of the social media posts that we

[02:40] were told didn't exist that were posted

[02:42] by Thomas Krooks in the months and years

[02:44] before the shooting. And I was amazed

[02:46] that that the FBI had lied about this.

[02:47] So I called Cash Patel and I later

[02:50] called Dan Bonino and I says, you know,

[02:52] what is this? I'm not attacking you. It

[02:53] was the previous FBI administration that

[02:56] did this. It was Chris Ray, but what is

[02:58] this? And Dan Bonino became hysterical

[03:02] with me on the phone. I've known Dan a

[03:04] long time for many years and always got

[03:07] along with him. You know, whatever his

[03:09] faults, you know, nice guy, nice,

[03:10] certainly very nice to me. I never had a

[03:12] problem with Dan ever. And that problem

[03:15] began when I brought this information to

[03:17] his attention and he he became a

[03:19] different person. He was clearly

[03:20] terrified. I didn't get it at first, but

[03:22] he was he was hysterical.

[03:24] And ultimately after a long series of

[03:27] text exchanges, which I still have, and

[03:30] phone conversations, um he said, "Look,

[03:32] take it up with Trump. He's the one who

[03:33] shut down the investigation." And that

[03:36] was, I think, the first or second week

[03:38] of December. I think it was the

[03:39] beginning of the second week of

[03:40] December. I have it written down. But

[03:42] that was the moment and I realized, oh

[03:44] wow, you know, there's no good

[03:46] explanation for shutting down an

[03:47] investigation into your own attempted

[03:49] murder. Like, this is not what we've

[03:51] been told it was.

[03:54] Okay, so a lot to unpack there. The

[03:56] first thing I thought when I saw this

[03:58] was, wait, what? Trump was the person

[04:01] who shuts down the investigation

[04:04] into his own assassination attempt? What

[04:06] does that mean? And then I saw Dan

[04:11] Bonino's response. So just to recap what

[04:13] we just heard there, Tucker says he

[04:15] reached out to Dan Bonino because they

[04:17] had been friends for a long time. He

[04:18] reached out to Cash Patel because he was

[04:20] working on a story. That story was that

[04:22] we the people, what was communicated to

[04:25] us was that this Matt Krooks uh

[04:27] character, Matthew Krooks, had

[04:29] absolutely no or Thomas Krooks, Matthew

[04:31] Thomas Crooks or Thomas Matthew Krooks

[04:32] had absolutely no social media history.

[04:34] And it turned out he had a very long

[04:36] extensive social media history and the

[04:38] FBI was aware of this. So he reaches out

[04:40] and he says, "Look, you guys weren't

[04:41] involved." Um, but what is this? Why why

[04:44] are we being lied to? You guys are

[04:46] certainly in power now. And he says that

[04:49] Dan Bonino grew hysterical. And he says

[04:52] that Dan Bonino was terrified. My

[04:54] understanding and I think any rational

[04:56] person's understanding of what he means

[04:58] is that this story, the butler story,

[05:01] perhaps the butler cover up, whatever it

[05:03] is, terrified Dan Bonino and terrified

[05:05] Cash Patel. Totally believable just

[05:07] looking at Cash Patel. He constantly

[05:09] looks like he is in a state of terror.

[05:11] And this is how Dan Bonino chose to

[05:15] respond to Tucker saying that Dan was

[05:18] terrified. Take a listen.

[05:21] I'm not, this is not a pretend tough guy

[05:23] act. I'm a 51-year-old man with decaying

[05:26] joints. I'm not I don't plan on fighting

[05:29] anyone in the UFC.

[05:31] There's no violence is never the answer

[05:33] to anything. I'm not interested in any

[05:35] of that. But I'm going to tell you

[05:37] straight, if you think I was terrified

[05:39] of Tarlson, then I'm really sorry. Like,

[05:43] you need to take yourselves a Xanax and

[05:45] go find a doctor, right? That's of all

[05:47] the things. Like, that's the most

[05:49] hilarious. However, accusing me and the

[05:51] president of a federal crime,

[05:53] obstructing justice, bizarrely, the

[05:56] president involved in covering up the

[05:58] investigation into his own attempted

[06:00] murder is seriously one of the most

[06:03] delusional things I've ever seen. And

[06:04] the reason I'm really starting to

[06:06] believe, and I mean this sincerely, that

[06:10] Tucker's just

[06:13] dumb at I don't have any is he doesn't

[06:15] realize like I have these texts, too.

[06:21] Well, quite a time to call Tucker dumb

[06:23] when you completely misunderstood the

[06:25] context of what he meant when he said

[06:26] you were terrified. D, I don't I don't

[06:28] think Tucker wants to fight you. Tucker

[06:30] wears boat shoes. He gives me Martha

[06:32] Vineyard vibes. He's definitely wasn't

[06:34] saying he wanted to fight you. He's

[06:37] saying something scared you and

[06:39] something that you saw scared you. Let's

[06:41] cool it with the aggressive nature of

[06:43] wanting to beat up Tucker Carlson. Like,

[06:45] doesn't make you sound top 51. Oh, beat

[06:48] him up. Okay. Then, uh, on top of that,

[06:51] he completely misunderstands everything

[06:53] Tucker said. Tucker was very clear that

[06:55] he spoke with Dan in December. And Dan

[06:59] thinks that he has a haha gotcha. I'm

[07:01] going to prove that Tucker is stupid by

[07:04] showing an article that was published

[07:07] before him and Tucker spoke. He shows an

[07:10] article from November, which is

[07:11] completely irrelevant to everything that

[07:13] Tucker just said. Take a listen.

[07:15] He says that the president shut down the

[07:18] Butler investigation.

[07:21] Totally, completely 100% made up. But we

[07:26] did a full interview with Brook Singman

[07:28] from Fox, which to all the people who,

[07:30] by the way, think Tucker's for real. If

[07:32] you think I'm doctoring any of this,

[07:34] please go look this article up yourself.

[07:37] Don't trust me. Trust the evidence. Here

[07:39] it was, November 21st, even before

[07:42] Tucker says he spoke to me in December.

[07:44] exclusive FBI concludes Trump shooter

[07:47] crooks acted alone after unprecedented

[07:49] global investigation. Now he says the

[07:52] investigation was shut down. Yet here it

[07:55] is on the record in November. Again, the

[07:57] Tucker fans will apologize for him until

[08:00] the end of time because they just can't

[08:02] give up the Kool-Aid. Let me read this

[08:04] to you in case you're a Tucker fan who

[08:06] can't read. The case that's the crooks

[08:09] case he says was shut down currently

[08:11] sits in a pending inactive status. Wait,

[08:14] keep this up, Andy. Does that say the

[08:16] case is closed?

[08:17] >> Andy Shaker said, "Jasmine, does that

[08:19] say that?" It does not. No, it says the

[08:22] opposite. This is before Tucker claims

[08:24] he talked to me.

[08:25] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[08:26] >> But the official, this is the one of the

[08:28] investigators called the investigation

[08:29] one of the largest mobilizations of FBI

[08:32] resources in history that continued to

[08:34] this day.

[08:37] Yeah, Dan, if we can come out of this,

[08:38] Dan, it's it's because Tucker spoke to

[08:40] you after that. So, I I if the

[08:42] investigation was open before he spoke

[08:44] to Tucker and Tucker says he spoke to

[08:45] you in December, everything you're

[08:47] saying doesn't make sense. But beyond

[08:48] that, his whole face, his demeanor, he's

[08:50] lying. I mean, Dan Bonjino is just

[08:51] lying. And that's my how I'm reading

[08:53] him. He's not making any sense. He wants

[08:55] to fight. It's aggressive. And Tucker

[08:58] made a statement that he had multiple

[09:00] conversations with him. Dan appeared

[09:01] terrified. Tucker said it was both on

[09:04] the phone and via text. and he conveyed

[09:07] to him that it was the president who

[09:08] didn't want information to come out. And

[09:10] then Dan proves Tucker's point by

[09:12] showing a text message in which Dan

[09:14] instructs to Tucker that if you want

[09:17] more information about Butler, then you

[09:19] need to ask Trump to tell us to release

[09:22] it. Meaning that there was more

[09:24] information about Butler that Trump did

[09:27] not want released. Take a listen to Dan

[09:30] Bonino pull the Paramount not so

[09:32] tactical. Take a listen. Here's the

[09:35] other text where I actually go on to

[09:38] further make the case next to him. He

[09:41] said, 'I hoped you had the chance,

[09:42] Tucker said, to see the piece on crooks.

[09:44] We received some information and are

[09:46] planning a detailed follow-up. Is there

[09:48] someone I can talk to at the FBI before

[09:49] we do? Thanks. I said, I saw it and that

[09:51] you seem to believe that Cash and I, who

[09:53] are longtime personal friends with the

[09:55] president, involved in some sinister

[09:56] cover up is absurd.

[09:59] I thought he said we were covering it

[10:01] up. Yet in my text, leave this up, guys.

[10:04] I'm saying the exact opposite, Justin.

[10:05] Am I not?

[10:07] It's almost like he's bullshitting you

[10:09] again. Is the president in on it, too? I

[10:11] asked. He's one of the victims. He's

[10:13] told us repeatedly, as he said publicly,

[10:16] he's satisfied with the effort Cash and

[10:18] I put in. The president's a victim in a

[10:20] federal crime. And when he's ready for

[10:22] us to release more information about

[10:23] this crime, then I'll tell us. I suggest

[10:25] you give him a ring and tell him you

[10:26] want more. Let me know what he says.

[10:28] He's a member of the media. People call

[10:29] him all the time.

[10:32] >> Okay. So if Dan, if the president could

[10:35] be called and could be told to instruct

[10:38] you to release more information, then

[10:39] there's more information that the

[10:41] president is aware has not been released

[10:42] to the public. That's everything Tucker

[10:44] just said, and you don't realize that

[10:47] you're confirming his report by

[10:49] accident. Now, I am now of the position

[10:53] that something is very wrong with

[10:55] Butler. And whatever it is that is wrong

[10:57] with Butler, it may get go go go a very

[10:59] long way in terms of explaining what is

[11:02] wrong with Trump, what went wrong with

[11:04] Trump. Because we have two options here,

[11:06] okay? If you almost get assassinated,

[11:09] uh, and you do not fire the Secret

[11:12] Service agents that failed to protect

[11:14] you on that day, um, uh, they moved you

[11:17] off the stage, but certainly failed to

[11:19] protect you on that day and see somebody

[11:20] on the rooftop. And then beyond that,

[11:23] you determine that you are satisfied

[11:24] with the investigation and you allow

[11:26] lies to come out about the investigation

[11:28] or lies to remain about the

[11:30] investigation saying um that the person

[11:33] who allegedly fired the shots had no

[11:35] social media background and then you

[11:38] withhold information from the public. We

[11:41] only have two options to consider. The

[11:42] first thing is that the entire thing was

[11:44] staged and Trump was involved. Trump

[11:47] knew it was going to happen. Uh, and he

[11:49] allowed the entire assassination attempt

[11:52] um to take place, thereby thrusting him

[11:56] into this category where all of us went,

[11:58] "Oh, there must have been a reason that

[11:59] God saved him." I'm not inclined to

[12:02] believe that option. Okay. The second

[12:04] option is that it was a real

[12:06] assassination attempt. It actually had

[12:09] nothing to do with the person that it

[12:11] was blamed on. Um, and Trump did escape

[12:15] with his life and it was a warning. Do

[12:18] not ever do well, you know, whatever it

[12:21] is like a gangster sort of warning. And

[12:23] I am inclined to believe that that is

[12:25] what happened. This would completely

[12:27] transform Trump. It would transform. It

[12:29] would make him obey. It's like a

[12:32] gangster

[12:34] basically. You take money from a

[12:35] gangster. You take hundreds of millions

[12:36] of dollars from a gangster. They fire a

[12:38] warning shot. Maybe because uh you know

[12:41] you willy-nilly said in front of Charlie

[12:43] Kirk and Andrew Kovette that you were

[12:45] going to take somebody's money and then

[12:46] f them over not knowing um that that

[12:48] information got back to some people and

[12:52] you escaped with your life and after

[12:53] that you just did whatever these people

[12:54] said.

[12:56] I'm just I'm just thinking here because

[12:58] I believe Tucker is telling the truth

[13:00] and Dan's entire face and demeanor and

[13:03] panic and yelling and threatening to

[13:05] fight signals to me that Tucker is

[13:07] telling the truth. that Tucker told him

[13:09] on the phone that it was Trump himself

[13:12] that shut down this investigation. Okay,

[13:15] that that is what is being reflected to

[13:17] me in the worst poker face that I've

[13:19] ever seen in Dan Bonino. He can't even

[13:21] think rationally. He's just angry and

[13:23] wants to fight because he's been

[13:24] exposed. Okay.

[13:27] If that version of events is true, if uh

[13:30] Trump survived uh an assassination

[13:33] attempt and then the gangsters came to

[13:34] him and said, "You do whatever we say."

[13:37] Now, well, that could bring up bring us

[13:42] to a sort of logical explanation as to

[13:44] Trump's behavior thereafter. Because I

[13:46] believe that Trump betrayed Charlie Kirk

[13:48] by a similar lack of investigation into

[13:52] who killed Charlie Kirk. He betrayed

[13:54] himself and he betrayed Charlie Kirk.

[13:56] And if the same people were involved in

[13:58] both, which I think there is an

[14:00] indication, I think many of us suspect

[14:02] that the same people are uh could be

[14:04] involved in both, then you could see how

[14:07] easily that might keep Trump in line

[14:09] because I think Trump is very vain. And

[14:12] even though he is old, he is not trying

[14:13] to be a hero. and his option is we'll

[14:16] keep you alive and we'll make you so

[14:19] rich and your family so rich and you'll

[14:22] have land and you'll have your name on

[14:23] buildings forever. Trump's taking that

[14:25] option, right? He would rather take I'll

[14:27] be alive for a couple of more years and

[14:29] very wealthy rather than to sacrifice

[14:31] his life doing the right thing. Him and

[14:34] Charlie had different character. Um

[14:37] which brings us to a rather explosive

[14:39] piece that was published in the New York

[14:40] Times yesterday. This was also trending.

[14:43] Um, this is inside the White House

[14:46] freakout over the Epstein files. Now, I

[14:48] am not a normal consumer of the New York

[14:51] Times. Obviously, I'm not really I don't

[14:54] really read much of the media anymore

[14:55] because of how many lies have been told.

[14:57] But this piece, it was very obvious that

[15:00] it was well sourced. And I'll get into

[15:02] uh my opinion, which is that Dan Bonino

[15:04] was one of the sources, and I'll tell

[15:05] you why I think that in a bit. but

[15:07] revealed in this piece was a relevant

[15:09] portion about Charlie Kirk. Um, in in

[15:12] summation, it's about uh how Trump

[15:14] really did not want the Epstein files to

[15:16] be investigated. Now, there are two

[15:18] takes on this. Some people think that it

[15:19] is because he is in them. I don't doubt

[15:21] that Trump had some sort of a business

[15:22] relationship with Epstein. It makes

[15:24] perfect sense to me when you understand

[15:25] Epstein's business model, right? What

[15:27] did Epstein do? Uh, he was involved in a

[15:29] trafficking ring. Uh, he traffked

[15:31] weapons. He traffked people. He did it

[15:33] uh on behalf of the state of Israel. We

[15:35] have another Israel theme. Charlie Kirk,

[15:37] I'm turning away from Israel. Donald

[15:39] Trump, I'm going to screw over Miriam

[15:40] Adlesen. Shortly thereafter, an

[15:42] assassination attempt happens. Okay. And

[15:44] now we have Trump in a full panic at the

[15:48] White House over the Epstein files and

[15:50] him having to do anything to shut down

[15:52] that investigation. So, we learn

[15:56] that just in the midst of Charlie's uh

[15:59] SAS, the student action summit where we

[16:02] have been telling you over and over

[16:03] again, according to our timeline, it

[16:05] seems to us that after Tucker took the

[16:07] stage at SAS, Tucker Carlson took the

[16:09] stage at SAS.

[16:11] Instructions went out to kill Charlie

[16:12] Kirk. That's just what the timeline

[16:14] tells us. Like, if we're just looking at

[16:16] it like a story, things got weird after

[16:19] Tucker hit the stage. We have said this

[16:21] from the very beginning since we mapped

[16:22] out this timeline. Well, it turns out

[16:24] Tucker spoke on July 11th. And on July

[16:28] 12th, Charlie received a phone call from

[16:30] the president. Here is what the New York

[16:31] Times article tells us. It reads, quote,

[16:33] "On July 12th, the president took to

[16:35] Truth Social to defend Pam Bondi against

[16:38] criticism and to urge his boys and gals

[16:41] to stop wasting time and energy on

[16:43] Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody

[16:45] cares about." out. Trump told aids that

[16:47] he was very unhappy with some of his

[16:48] most influential supporters, including

[16:51] Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, and Megan

[16:53] Kelly, all of whom were publicly urging

[16:55] the administration to come clean. Kirk

[16:58] had held a Turning Point USA event the

[17:00] previous day that turned into an Epstein

[17:02] grievance fest with one speaker after

[17:04] another bashing Bondi over her handling

[17:07] of the situation. Trump had called Kirk

[17:09] and scolded him. Okay,

[17:14] couple of things happening here. Why

[17:16] would Donald Trump, the president of the

[17:18] United States, call Charlie Kirk to

[17:21] scold him? Because people on stage are

[17:25] calling out a child rapist.

[17:29] Make it make sense.

[17:31] I'm open to other ideas. I don't want to

[17:33] be a conspiracy theory. Make that make

[17:35] sense. There was mass panic. We have

[17:38] covered this. Charlie lost millions and

[17:40] millions of dollars on stage from his

[17:41] pro-Israel donors over uh Tucker calling

[17:44] out Epstein. Megan Kelly talked about

[17:47] Epstein. So, this is perfectly tracking

[17:49] with what we know went down and and

[17:51] Charlie held the line. By and large,

[17:54] Charlie held the line. They wanted him

[17:56] to cancel Tucker. Um they were angry

[17:58] that um in particular that he had Tucker

[18:02] Carlson had asked where Bill Aman's

[18:04] money comes from. It was it's kind of

[18:05] like one of those Epsteinesesque

[18:07] questions where it's like these people

[18:08] get really rich when you start looking

[18:10] into it doesn't really make sense where

[18:11] their money is coming from. There was

[18:13] mass Zionist panic. Again, we have the

[18:16] theme of Israel. So, let's plot that on

[18:19] our timeline because I remembered

[18:22] something that's bothering me. Okay,

[18:25] July 11th to July 13, 2025. Um, we know

[18:30] that that's the student action summit,

[18:32] Turning Point USA student action summit

[18:33] in Tampa Bay, Florida. Uh, Charlie's

[18:36] first speech is at 4 p.m. on Friday. His

[18:38] last speech concludes at 1:10 p.m. on

[18:40] Sunday. Okay. July 11th is the day that

[18:43] Tucker Carlson delivered that speech.

[18:45] Um, Charlie tells him to go Max despite

[18:48] the fact that donors are freaking out.

[18:49] He tells him to go Max. Okay. He calls

[18:53] out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that the

[18:55] people who serve in foreign armies

[18:57] should be stripped of their citizenship

[18:58] and he muses about where Bill Aman's

[19:00] wealth comes from. On July 12th,

[19:02] according to the New York Times,

[19:03] President Trump calls Charlie Kirk

[19:04] angrily and he scolds him about SAS,

[19:07] calling it an Epstein grievance fest.

[19:08] What does this have to do with you,

[19:10] Trump? What does that have to do with

[19:11] you? Who is telling you to call Charlie

[19:15] and scold him? Now, there's only two

[19:16] options. One,

[19:18] the gangsters that you took money from

[19:20] are telling you to call Charlie and put

[19:22] an end to it because

[19:24] Epste worked for Israel. Or two, you're

[19:26] in the Epstein file. So, there's no in

[19:28] between. You don't just call someone to

[19:30] scold them about bringing up uh um being

[19:33] agrieved by a child rapist. Everyone

[19:35] should be agrieved by a person who harms

[19:37] children. If you're not, we're not on

[19:39] the same team. Okay.

[19:42] This July 14th date,

[19:45] Erica travels aboard a private flight to

[19:47] Long Beach, California. She's got

[19:48] Katherine Loccastro. It's a young woman

[19:50] who works Turning Point USA. was at one

[19:52] point Mikey McCoy's assistant, Derek

[19:54] Nerk, who um who's a bodyguard, Jonathan

[19:58] Barcelo, who is a Marine, and she speaks

[20:03] at James Catis' Calvary Chapel Church.

[20:05] Now, James Catis is that icky guy who is

[20:09] Egyptian and runs Turning Point USA

[20:11] faith. We need to look into James Catis.

[20:14] I've received so many emails about him,

[20:16] radically pro- Israel. She speaks at

[20:18] their women's summer of song retreat and

[20:21] what was there was something bothering

[20:23] me about this speech for forever I keep

[20:25] being like this speech is really weird

[20:27] because she says in the speech that this

[20:29] was her Sunday church okay we know Erica

[20:31] bounces sometimes she's Catholic

[20:33] sometimes she's you know Jewish

[20:35] sometimes she's um Judeo-Christian and

[20:38] this day she was Calvary Chapel okay but

[20:41] it was bizarre to me because when James

[20:43] Katis te's up the speech he goes on

[20:44] about like pro-Israel pro and I was like

[20:47] there's something really bothering me

[20:48] about this on the timeline. The first

[20:50] and foremost I realized Erica didn't

[20:52] show up to ZAS which was unusual. Uh

[20:54] then she gets in a plane. She knows her

[20:57] husband is being agrieved. She knows her

[20:59] her husband is under pressure from

[21:01] Israel. She knows her husband is losing

[21:03] millions from Israel and yet she gets on

[21:05] stage. She gets this pro-Israel intro

[21:08] from James Katis and then talks about,

[21:10] you know, how there's always war in

[21:13] Israel because Israel is great or

[21:15] whatever and and says that this speech

[21:18] is sort of a call to arms and she's

[21:20] putting it in the context of women and

[21:22] dating and whatever. I'll let you take a

[21:24] a little listen to this portion of her

[21:26] speech.

[21:28] And interestingly enough, in the history

[21:30] of Israel, as many of you guys know,

[21:32] because I know you guys go to a

[21:33] biblically based church, so you

[21:35] understand this, that the record of

[21:39] Israel is that there is constant

[21:40] invasion and warfare in the promised

[21:43] land. Because of this, the land rarely

[21:46] has a chance to flourish uninterrupted.

[21:49] And every so often when a king rises up,

[21:53] you know, they unify their people, they

[21:55] fend off the enemies, and for a brief

[21:58] moment, the people can finally enjoy

[21:59] peace. And it's not the peace that their

[22:03] military brings. It's the only type of

[22:04] peace that that God can grant true true

[22:07] peace where there's lasting prosperity

[22:10] and the people can flourish. And so the

[22:13] theme of Psalm 144 is this. praise and

[22:16] prayer to God because of who he is, not

[22:19] just what he gives. So again, this psalm

[22:22] is it's a battle song. It's a call to

[22:25] arms, but it's also a call to trust and

[22:28] it's a call to worship and it's a call

[22:30] to prepare.

[22:33] Okay? Call to arms, call to worship,

[22:36] call to trust, call to understand that

[22:37] there's conflict in Israel at all times

[22:39] and this is like, you know, post

[22:40] genocide. So I don't love that. But

[22:42] there was still something that was

[22:43] gnawing at me beyond the fact that like

[22:45] I said, James Katis is this like

[22:46] Egyptian pastor that's like radically

[22:48] pro-Israel that she does a lot of work

[22:49] with. Um, and he's he's very involved in

[22:51] Turning Point USA. This is literally his

[22:52] Prageru video. I'm an Egyptian pastor

[22:54] who supports Israel. And finally, it

[22:56] dawned on me. Okay, I'm going to explain

[22:59] it to you next up on our timeline. So,

[23:01] she gives this speech irrespective of

[23:04] what her husband's literally going

[23:05] through at this exact same time. Donor's

[23:08] pulling out, yelling at him as soon as

[23:09] he gets off stage. She's telling Tucker

[23:11] to go Max. Anyways, the president of

[23:12] United States is calling him. This is

[23:13] his wife. She knows this is all going

[23:14] on. Okay? If anybody's beefing with my

[23:17] husband, I'm the enemy. Like, I'm I'm

[23:20] like with my husband 100%. There's no

[23:22] halfway with that. I'm not going to say

[23:23] something cute to you. I'm going to be

[23:25] like off the Israel train immediately.

[23:28] Right after this on July 18th, uh that's

[23:30] when the request goes in for UVU. We

[23:33] still don't know who submitted that

[23:34] request. I told you it has literally

[23:36] never happened that you instantly get a

[23:38] a spot, the first spot of a semester

[23:40] tour. There's such a long waiting list

[23:43] to have Charlie go speak at their

[23:45] schools, but they suddenly made one. Um,

[23:48] it's this July 20th thing that it

[23:50] suddenly dawned on me what was bothering

[23:51] me about Erica being introduced

[23:54] pro-Israel and being pro-Israel on stage

[23:57] in the midst of everything Charlie was

[23:58] going through. July 20thish,

[24:02] Charlie vacationed in Maine for a couple

[24:04] of weeks. Okay, so let's just say from

[24:06] July 20th to July 30th, um he went off

[24:10] radar and this is when Mikey McCoy and

[24:11] Eliza and Elizabeth McCoy join them for

[24:14] the first time on vacation and they

[24:16] capture all these images that we're then

[24:17] going to see as soon as Charlie's

[24:18] assassinated. these images of him

[24:20] walking with Erica like you know just

[24:21] kind of oh this is a happy couple and

[24:24] then right after in the midst of this

[24:26] the same two weeks why Rei comes in as

[24:28] the number one sponsor for Charlie

[24:30] Kirk's fall tour this is a total Israel

[24:32] coded company um and it was weird

[24:36] because they had already signed a

[24:37] contract from January through December

[24:39] for all of their events but now they

[24:40] doubled down what catalyzed that like

[24:43] sudden addendum to their contract like

[24:45] yes we want more um we're going to come

[24:48] in for speaking tour that you're now

[24:50] going to do and the first one's going to

[24:51] be at UVU and me, the CEO, is going to

[24:54] travel with you at this event. Okay,

[24:57] that seems a bit weird. And then it

[24:59] dawned on me. I totally forgot

[25:01] something. Okay, and I'm just going to

[25:03] have to ask Tucker for forgiveness for

[25:05] sharing this because I knew that there

[25:07] was something bothering me about this

[25:08] Maine vacation. I had a baby and I think

[25:13] I blacked out after assassination

[25:16] and didn't remember that I went up to

[25:18] Maine too. I went up to Maine with my

[25:20] husband in July. Okay. My son was born

[25:22] on May 1st. We were off air and then the

[25:25] first thing I did was I went with my

[25:27] newborn Roman and my husband up to Maine

[25:31] to do Tucker's show and I did an

[25:34] interview and I genuinely forgot about

[25:38] this. Like I I genuinely forgot about

[25:40] this and we went in on the topic of

[25:43] Israel. I'm just going to show you a

[25:45] little 10-second clip here so you can

[25:47] get an idea of what I'm talking about.

[25:49] Since the 80s, Jeffrey Epste has been

[25:51] working for Israel. I don't know how I

[25:53] know that and Trump and Pam Bondi don't,

[25:55] but they got to bring me in. Like I

[25:56] might have some evidence here, right?

[25:58] It's like so it's we're getting to a

[26:00] point now

[26:00] >> you're going to have tough confirmation

[26:01] hearings.

[26:02] >> I'm just I just want them to say f you.

[26:05] Like if seriously that would feel better

[26:07] at this point if they just came out and

[26:09] said f you no boo boo boo boo boo boo

[26:10] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[26:10] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[26:10] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[26:10] boo boo boo boo you can't touch us we

[26:12] rule over you haha that would feel at

[26:15] least authentic going back to the Taylor

[26:17] runs thing you know I'd be like I really

[26:20] don't like that but at least it's

[26:21] authentic and I know you mean it and

[26:23] it's true

[26:26] >> all totally fair does does any of I mean

[26:29] to the extent that we can project

[26:30] forward and guess does does any of this

[26:33] come out I to a greater extent than it

[26:35] has. I mean, do is there ever like a

[26:37] public resolution of this story?

[26:38] >> No, because Israel's controlling our

[26:40] government. So, no, the answer is no.

[26:42] Trump is powerless against him. We

[26:43] haven't had I don't think we've been a

[26:45] sovereign nation since they shot JFK.

[26:46] And when I say they, it's like I people

[26:48] online say, "What do you mean by they?

[26:50] I'm talking about Israel. I don't want

[26:51] you guys to like, you know, read between

[26:53] I'm talking about Israel." So, like,

[26:54] let's stop making that a taboo subject

[26:56] because they've gone mask down.

[26:58] Everything they're doing is demonic. I

[26:59] want nothing to do with it. I will never

[27:00] support Israel into the future after

[27:01] what they've done to these children. uh

[27:03] the starvation campaign. I I don't care.

[27:06] >> I promise you I forgot that. I forgot

[27:08] that I had this I forgot that I went up

[27:10] to Maine until I was looking at this

[27:12] Erica speech and I was like I know what

[27:13] is bothering me about this speech.

[27:15] What's bothering me about the speech is

[27:16] that when I got off air with Tucker

[27:18] obviously you just have chatter like

[27:21] just chatter in the air like about

[27:23] everything you just discussed and what's

[27:25] happening and ob everything we said

[27:26] there. We're talking about Epstein and

[27:29] Tucker said to me, and I'm I'm obviously

[27:33] I'm not going to get this verbatim, but

[27:35] he was like, "Yeah." He talked about a

[27:37] SAS speech and he just said, "They're

[27:39] like, you know, taking money from

[27:41] Charlie because of this whole speech."

[27:43] And I was like, "Yeah, you know,

[27:44] Charlie's kind of coming over to our

[27:46] side. He's really had an awakening about

[27:47] this. We It's crazy that I forgot this,

[27:50] but it's the second part of what he said

[27:51] to me." He said, "I just had dinner with

[27:53] him and Erica. They were just here." I

[27:55] think he said like last night, I kid you

[27:57] not, it was they were just there in

[28:00] Maine having dinner with Tucker. I

[28:02] remember this. I am 1,000% certain days

[28:05] within me. It was like Charlie was there

[28:07] and then I was there and he had dinner

[28:09] with Erica and he said something which

[28:11] is the reason why I was happy when they

[28:15] announced that Erica was going to be CEO

[28:17] because before we could have ever known

[28:19] um that Charlie was going to be

[28:20] assassinated as we were sitting here in

[28:22] Maine talking about Israel and Epstein

[28:23] and what the pressure that Charlie was

[28:25] under Tucker was like I absolutely love

[28:28] Erica. He said this publicly a thousand

[28:30] times so I'm not revealing anything

[28:31] here. and he was like, "She is like

[28:34] hardcore on the anti-Israel train and

[28:38] that she had gone in on dinner about

[28:40] everything and that, you know, this is

[28:43] who this is who Erica was." And I was

[28:44] like, "Oh, wow." Like, I actually never

[28:46] got to spend that kind of time with her.

[28:47] Like, I know I know Charlie's coming,

[28:48] but I don't I never really speak to

[28:49] Erica like that. And they had had this

[28:51] dinner in the midst of all of this sass

[28:52] stuff and I happened to be in Maine. And

[28:55] when I look at that and I plot that on

[28:57] the timeline, it convinces me that Erica

[28:59] is a psychopath. genuinely convinces me

[29:01] that Eric's a psychopath because and

[29:03] please Tucker, forgive me. I had to

[29:05] share that. I know you like her. I know

[29:07] you're a fan of Erica. I know we have

[29:09] different opinions and different

[29:10] perspectives,

[29:11] but this doesn't make sense. This This

[29:14] does not make sense that Erica gets on

[29:17] stage and is pro- Israel, blinks and is

[29:19] at dinner and is anti-Israel, more

[29:22] anti-Israel than Tucker. I mean, than

[29:24] than Charlie as we're talking about all

[29:26] this Epstein stuff. And Charlie's under

[29:27] pressure. And then as soon as Charlie

[29:29] passes away, she's up on stage with

[29:31] Barry Weiss saying anybody who doesn't

[29:33] support Israel has brain rot. That's a

[29:35] psychopath. That is that is somebody who

[29:37] can be someone else in every room. And

[29:40] we have told this story over and over

[29:42] again about Erica. She literally just

[29:43] commutes her entire personality

[29:45] depending on who she's in front of. Like

[29:47] there there is no personality. It's who

[29:49] who is the audience. I'm a Catholic. If

[29:51] I'm in the back of a church and I'm with

[29:54] this donor who's got a lot of money and

[29:56] Stacy taps on their shoulder and I I

[29:59] share how Charlie was about to become

[30:00] Catholic and then the woman, as I shared

[30:03] with you guys, gets on a plane, brings

[30:05] back a relic of St. Michael because

[30:07] Erica's so hardcore Catholic and then

[30:10] she blinks and she instructs um Andrew

[30:12] Kovets to deny what I said about Charlie

[30:15] in the Catholic church. Like literally

[30:18] the next week she okays Alex Clark

[30:21] coming out and saying I'm a liar.

[30:23] Erica's a psychopath. I this this is

[30:25] like I just it just dawned on me. She

[30:27] was playing this game while Charlie was

[30:29] alive. And if I didn't do this timeline,

[30:31] if I didn't remember that I was in Maine

[30:33] having this casual conversation when

[30:35] everybody was friends and Charlie was

[30:37] alive and Charlie was under a lot of

[30:39] pressure, I I would have I probably

[30:42] would not have reflected on this little

[30:45] tidbit that proves that Erica's a

[30:47] psychopath. She's not a She wasn't a

[30:49] grieving widow in August and July. Okay?

[30:52] She wasn't a grieving widow. She was a

[30:55] manipulative psychopath who puts on a

[30:58] different outfit, a different costume

[31:01] depending on what play she has to put

[31:03] on. Okay, that's that's just like an

[31:06] established fact that Erica is she has

[31:10] demonstrated over and over again the

[31:12] attributes of a psychopath.

[31:15] I'm with Tucker. I'm anti-Israel.

[31:19] I'm with Barry Weiss. People who don't

[31:20] support Israel have brain rot brain rot.

[31:23] I'm with an Egyptian pastor. I love

[31:25] Israel. There's conflict here because of

[31:26] a call to arms. That's not normal. How

[31:32] weird. If you had learned that after

[31:34] doing this podcast, I was just yucking

[31:36] it up with Ben Shapiro talking about how

[31:39] much I love is Yamaka growing. You'd be

[31:40] like, "That's weird." And oh, I was

[31:42] like, "Oh gosh, these like terrible

[31:44] Palestinians. They don't have a right to

[31:46] any land. Who are they? They don't even

[31:47] exist. Palestine doesn't exist." that

[31:49] would register to you that I was a

[31:52] psychopath because it's hard to do that.

[31:54] It's hard to perform in front of people.

[31:56] I don't understand genuinely genuinely

[32:00] how Tucker can like her. I don't I don't

[32:05] and and maybe it's cuz he is usually off

[32:08] on a boat fishing. Doesn't watch a lot

[32:10] of podcasts. Highly doubt that he is

[32:11] watching the timeline and the

[32:13] conflicting

[32:14] eras.

[32:16] He doesn't all the time. She's uh

[32:18] graduated school. She's not graduate

[32:19] school. Everything she says is in

[32:21] conflict with the thing that she said

[32:22] yesterday because there is no

[32:23] personality.

[32:25] Elizabeth Lane clocked her correctly.

[32:27] She is whatever she needs to be on her

[32:30] way to empowerment.

[32:35] She was not a grieving widow. do. I'm

[32:37] going to have to politely request that

[32:39] you already shut up in trying to defend

[32:44] why it would be that she was being two

[32:46] different people within one week when

[32:50] she should have just been anti because

[32:52] of how her husband was being treated

[32:53] behind the scenes. Okay, just got to get

[32:56] that off my chest.

[32:59] What follows that is August 5th to 6th,

[33:01] the Hampton's retreat. I mean, this

[33:02] timeline's crazy to look at to me now.

[33:05] Crazy Hampton's retreat intervention,

[33:08] the influencer sponsored by Bill Aman,

[33:10] who just was mentioned on stage about

[33:12] the Epstein stuff. Not about the Epstein

[33:14] stuff, pardon me. Um, but in relation to

[33:17] uh him asking questions, Tucker asking

[33:19] questions about Israel and where certain

[33:21] money is coming from. He brings up Bill

[33:22] Aman, his wealth. This also caused panic

[33:24] on the back end. This is Charlie Summit

[33:26] that Charlie himself described as an

[33:28] intervention that Erica was present at,

[33:30] but she would allow people to lie. BB

[33:33] calls him, offers to take Turning Point

[33:35] to the next level in exchange for what?

[33:37] We still don't know. But Charlie

[33:38] declines. Charlie says no to BB. Trump,

[33:42] I believe, said yes. Trump said yes.

[33:45] Charlie said no. My opinion, I'm

[33:48] sticking to it, especially after reading

[33:50] that Epstein piece. Especially after

[33:52] what Tucker has revealed about Butler.

[33:55] This is all Israelcoded. It makes sense.

[33:58] It is in our face. The puzzle has been

[34:00] coming together forever. It's the very

[34:02] first thing they lied about was to

[34:03] protect Israel. No one would have cared

[34:05] if his opinion was shifting on Israel

[34:07] because it could just be that's allowed.

[34:10] But all the lies that were told about

[34:11] it. Yeah, that means it's a clue.

[34:15] Then August 15th, Erica goes to the

[34:18] Aster at the Aspen investor retreat, but

[34:21] she doesn't actually go to the meeting

[34:22] even though she's I guess going to be

[34:25] CEO or whatever. And Charlie just

[34:27] appoints Era a couple weeks before he

[34:28] dies, changing his mind on everything

[34:30] he's ever said, every position he's ever

[34:31] held about women.

[34:34] That's not right. Okay, that timeline is

[34:37] not right. We're already at 36 minutes

[34:40] and I haven't even gotten to telling you

[34:41] about the FIA response. You know, Dom,

[34:43] let's let's um take a quick break here.

[34:44] We'll go to ads and then we'll come back

[34:46] and discuss Bradley Hansel and this

[34:48] bizarre response uh that we got back.

[34:51] We'll be right back. All right, you

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[38:10] I see Marcia in the comments here. She

[38:13] says, "Erica is not a psychopath. She is

[38:14] a sociopath. I strongly push back on

[38:17] that because a sociopath is able to

[38:20] relate to people socially." Okay? They

[38:22] wouldn't have made the same mistakes

[38:24] that Erica has made. And this is why her

[38:26] press has been a disaster because just

[38:29] as Elizabeth Lane spelled out when she

[38:31] wrote that really long tweet about what

[38:33] makes people uncomfortable is that she

[38:35] doesn't know her face doesn't know how

[38:37] to match the expressions the feelings

[38:39] that she's having. She doesn't know how

[38:41] to behave normally. A sociopath can do

[38:45] that. They can they can like you know

[38:47] emulate humanity. They would know like

[38:50] maybe 6 days after your husband gets

[38:51] shot in the neck you shouldn't be able

[38:52] to jump on a Zoom call. You don't have

[38:54] to have guidance or PR to tell you that

[38:56] that's not normal. Beyond that, she was

[38:58] in the office immediately. Within two

[39:01] days, Erica was back in the office

[39:03] walking around bringing her kids there.

[39:05] That's a psychopath. To be able to just

[39:07] like float between emotions, but also to

[39:09] not understand human emotions. In every

[39:11] room, Erica is someone different. The

[39:13] ability to lie to my face in the way

[39:16] that she lied to my face about saying

[39:18] that Andrew Kovette went rogue. that me

[39:22] discovering this like random

[39:23] conversation that I had with Tucker,

[39:25] remembering this random conversation,

[39:26] like genuinely my little sister. She

[39:29] told me obviously what I what I was not

[39:31] eating. I was not sleeping after Charlie

[39:33] got killed. And then I was like almost

[39:34] tricking myself into believing that he

[39:36] might be alive. Like going like

[39:37] genuinely going through every stage

[39:39] including bargaining and thinking he was

[39:42] actually being held somewhere and maybe

[39:43] in like protection because Trump would

[39:45] not let this happen, whatever. And my

[39:47] sister said to me, she's like, "When you

[39:49] experience something like this, you

[39:51] know, somebody that you know, someone

[39:53] that you're close to dying the way that

[39:54] they died, like it it damages your

[39:57] brain. Like you're not even I can't

[39:59] remember certain things that happened

[40:01] right after." And I totally forgot that

[40:04] I went to Maine. Like I I have been

[40:05] doing this timeline forever. I've been

[40:07] wondering like trying to figure out

[40:08] like, "Oh, when were they in Maine? Were

[40:09] they in Maine?" And then suddenly it

[40:09] dawned on me cuz you were in Maine. You

[40:12] were in Maine and you ju just like I I

[40:14] promise you Tucker must have said I just

[40:16] had dinner like the night before with

[40:18] Charlie and Erica or or two nights

[40:19] before with Charlie and Erica. I had

[40:21] just came in I might have even like

[40:23] texted Charlie to see if he was still in

[40:25] Maine. I have to check and it just

[40:27] dawned on me that that's what is weird.

[40:29] Erica was anti-Israel.

[40:32] And that is the reason why I was

[40:34] relieved when I cuz I I instantly

[40:36] thought things were weird and that other

[40:37] people were involved in his

[40:38] assassination. didn't think his wife,

[40:41] but I was like, great. At least Erica

[40:42] will be skeptical of these people. And

[40:44] this girl was like, hey, Barry Weiss,

[40:46] hey Ben, you want to open at Amfest,

[40:49] we're we're going big. We're going into

[40:50] a deeper partnership with International

[40:53] Fellowship of Christian and Jews. The

[40:55] company, we blinked and the company

[40:58] turned into Apac under Erica's

[40:59] stewardship.

[41:01] And she was not under duress. She's not

[41:03] under duress. She's operating behind the

[41:06] scenes and calling all the shots. So, I

[41:09] just need to express again that I truly

[41:10] believe she's a psychopath. I truly

[41:12] believe that the signs were there

[41:15] leading up to Charlie's assassination

[41:17] before she was a widow.

[41:20] Moving on to Bradley Hansel. Okay, so

[41:22] just to remind you, he is Trump's

[41:23] appointed under secretary of defense for

[41:26] intelligence and security. One of the

[41:28] Pentagon's top intelligence officials

[41:30] responsible for overseeing defense

[41:32] intelligence and security matters all

[41:34] across the DoD. Okay, we have been

[41:37] asking this question. And what exactly

[41:38] was he doing at Fort Wuka in September

[41:41] just before Charlie's assassination?

[41:43] Now, Fort Wuka is not just some army

[41:45] base. It is a major hub for military

[41:47] intelligence, cyber operations. Could

[41:49] make sense that he's there. Obviously,

[41:51] networks and um intelligence,

[41:53] surveillance, reconnaissance, uh and we

[41:56] were able to determine that he was on

[41:59] this multileg trip that revolved around

[42:01] Fort Wuka. It just raises a lot of

[42:03] questions about who he was meeting with

[42:06] right on these dates that we were

[42:08] interested in because of the meeting

[42:10] that Mitch Snow stumbled upon which we

[42:13] have proved he stumbled upon a meeting.

[42:15] We cannot yet definitively state that he

[42:18] saw who he saw. He believes he saw Brian

[42:21] Harpole. We have not seen any evidence

[42:23] to the contrary despite openly and

[42:25] kindly reaching out to Brian Harpole

[42:28] asking for that information. What we got

[42:29] was a lawsuit. Okay. Anyways, this is

[42:32] Bradley Hansel's itinerary for you guys

[42:34] so that you guys tracking this can take

[42:35] a look um and to see where he went. He

[42:38] went from Joint Base Andrews in

[42:40] Maryland. Obviously, that's right

[42:41] outside of DC. Um and then he flew to

[42:45] Colorado Springs and he went from

[42:46] Colorado Springs uh and flew to uh

[42:51] Tucson, Arizona, the Air Force base at

[42:54] at Davis Month. And then he flew from

[42:57] Tucson to Fort Wuka on a most crucial

[43:01] date um September 8th. Okay, so this

[43:06] raises two obvious questions. Why the

[43:08] stop the brief stop in Tucson when Fort

[43:11] Wuka is just like 50 miles away from

[43:14] Tucson by the way? Who did he pick up?

[43:16] That's a pickup, right? That's I would

[43:17] assume that's a pickup. Who did Bradley

[43:19] Hansel pick up to continue to Fort Wuka

[43:21] on September 8th? Uh the very next day

[43:24] on the 9th, that's the day where that

[43:26] meeting allegedly concluded um that

[43:30] Mitch Snow saw. That same plane then

[43:32] flies from Fort Wuka to El Paso and

[43:36] arrives at 1:20 p.m. local. Remains on

[43:39] the ground for 4 hours and 10 minutes

[43:41] and then it returns back to Joint Base

[43:43] Andrews just outside of DC. Um who did

[43:46] he drop off in Texas? That's another

[43:49] question, right? These these are

[43:50] registering to me like pick up and drop

[43:51] offs. babies landing for a meeting.

[43:53] Who's in those meetings? Now, the timing

[43:56] of this makes Fort Wuka stand out as the

[43:59] center of a trip. For one, because

[44:01] Bradley Hansel remained on the ground

[44:03] the longest there for 19 hours. That's

[44:05] the longest stop in his trip. He opted

[44:07] to stay overnight at Fort Wuka before

[44:10] departing the next day for El Paso. He

[44:12] did a quick little 20-minute helicopter

[44:14] tour of the border on that morning um as

[44:17] well before he departed for El Paso.

[44:21] What was he doing there on the 8th? What

[44:22] was he doing there on the morning of the

[44:23] 9th? For comparison, when I say that was

[44:25] a very long stay there relative to the

[44:27] rest of his trip uh in Tucson and El

[44:30] Paso, he was only on the ground for 4

[44:33] hours. Okay, 4 hour ground stop and um

[44:37] then he's at on for a very long time.

[44:39] He's at Fort Wuka. Colorado Springs was

[44:41] the second longest overnight stop. That

[44:43] was 16 hours. Okay.

[44:46] Also, of course, September 8th is

[44:48] significant because it's the day that

[44:49] Mitch Snow is convinced that he saw

[44:51] Erica Kirk at Fort Wuka leaving a hotel.

[44:54] Okay. Well, what hotel did Bradley

[44:55] Hansel stay at on Fort Wuka on the ETH?

[44:58] That's interesting. We'd like to know.

[45:00] So, he decided to file an FOIA request

[45:04] for his travel logs. That's the beauty

[45:06] of everything being paid for by the tax

[45:09] dollars is that we have this ability to

[45:11] file an FYIA request. Okay. Who did he

[45:13] pick up? That's what we wanted to know.

[45:15] who was on board with Bradley Hansel and

[45:18] we got a very unusual response. Now, we

[45:20] have been following a lot of these

[45:21] requests like we're going to be experts

[45:23] by the end of this and we've heard, hey,

[45:26] you need to make your request more

[45:28] specific or hey, this department doesn't

[45:30] have your request. This is the first

[45:32] time that we've been told we're number

[45:35] 3,000 on a list and we're not going to

[45:36] be able to get back to you. We don't

[45:38] know when we're going to get back to

[45:39] you. Here's the exact language of the

[45:40] response that we received to figure out

[45:43] who was on this plane with Bradley

[45:44] Hansel from Tucson to Fort Wuka. It

[45:47] reads, quote, "Although we have already

[45:50] begun processing your requests, we will

[45:51] not be able to respond within the FOIA's

[45:54] 20-day statutory time period as there

[45:56] are unusual circumstances which impact

[45:59] our ability to quickly process your

[46:01] request. The FOIA defines unusual

[46:04] circumstances

[46:06] as the need to search for and collect

[46:08] records from a facility that's

[46:09] geographically separated from this

[46:11] office or B the potential volume of the

[46:14] records responsive to your request. So A

[46:16] and B is not us. C the need for

[46:19] consultation with one or more other

[46:23] agencies or the Department of War

[46:26] components having a substantial interest

[46:28] in either the determination or the

[46:30] subject matter of the records. Okay,

[46:32] let's read that again because that's

[46:33] going to be us, right? We're not asking

[46:35] for a lot. We're asking for a travel

[46:36] log. Who else is on this plane? So, you

[46:38] don't it's not too big. It's not because

[46:39] of the volume of records. It's not

[46:41] geographically separated from this

[46:42] office. He works for the Department of

[46:44] War and it was the flight was booked

[46:46] from his office. I've confirmed that.

[46:48] Okay. So, we're at C of why they can't

[46:50] honor this in 20 days. This this would

[46:52] be the logical option C. And I'm going

[46:55] to read it again. Because of the need

[46:57] for consultation with one or more other

[47:00] agencies or the Department of War

[47:02] components having a substantial interest

[47:05] in either the determination or the

[47:07] subject matter of the records. at least

[47:10] one if not more of these scenarios apply

[47:12] or we would likely or would likely rep

[47:15] apply to your request. While this office

[47:17] does handle FYIA requests for the OSW,

[47:20] the JS and other component offices, we

[47:21] do not actually hold their records.

[47:23] Okay, so they're going over the

[47:24] geographic thing. That's not us. We do

[47:25] not hold the record. They do hold these

[47:27] records. It's him. It says then that we

[47:29] are unable to estimate the potential

[47:30] volume of records. Okay, that's not us.

[47:32] But where this last one, your request

[47:35] has been placed in our complex

[47:37] processing queue.

[47:39] and is being worked on based on the

[47:42] order in which the request was received.

[47:44] Our current administrative workload is

[47:46] approximately 3,534

[47:50] open requests.

[47:53] This is an FOI AFU.

[47:58] An FOFU. That's what it is. I didn't

[48:00] know we could file for that. We did.

[48:02] Apparently, we received it. FO FU.

[48:04] Candace.

[48:05] Oh, really? Yeah. um we have to talk to

[48:09] some other departments about your

[48:10] request and that could take a while

[48:12] because they have an interest in why you

[48:14] want to know who was on Sam 702 and

[48:17] Bradley's plane and that just means that

[48:19] we don't have to do the 20-day thing

[48:22] which is like by law but then there's

[48:24] this little carveout that says that if

[48:25] we have to communicate to other agencies

[48:27] like maybe the FBI Cash Patel I don't

[48:29] know Trump

[48:32] the executive office we don't act we can

[48:34] your number 3534

[48:36] fifu Candace.

[48:40] Weird.

[48:42] First time we've seen it. Guys, I'm

[48:44] happy to report that we are number

[48:46] 3,534th

[48:48] in line

[48:50] to never receive a request from the

[48:53] government about who was on that plane

[48:56] to Fort Wuka.

[48:59] Absolutely stunning. Truly stunning. I

[49:01] can't believe we're 51 minutes, guys.

[49:02] We're like not even going to be able to

[49:04] cover everything else. like we're we're

[49:06] like it's already late today and my

[49:08] daughter has a little bit of a fever.

[49:10] So, let's uh we'll we'll do um we'll do

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[51:33] Sorry, I was just asking something to my

[51:35] producer about a clip that we had pulled

[51:36] a while ago that um of Erica at the end

[51:39] of the recent leader women's summit

[51:42] event. It's I guess women's summit

[51:44] event. Yeah, no worries. Let me know if

[51:45] you can pull it. If not, no big deal. We

[51:47] can always just save it for Monday. But

[51:48] it just further illustrates my point

[51:49] about like her changing face of emotions

[51:52] like she doesn't know how to emote

[51:53] correctly or why people find her to be

[51:55] strange because she doesn't have any

[51:57] experience with these emotions. Um and

[51:59] that it just strikes me as so odd. I'm

[52:01] so bothered by that trip to Maine and it

[52:04] I'm bothered because there was there was

[52:05] no intent. It was just like people just

[52:07] talking about what was going on.

[52:09] Everybody's friends, nothing against

[52:11] Erica. I was like, "Oh, amazing.

[52:12] Whatever." And that was what was in the

[52:14] back of my head when I was at first

[52:15] relieved because I was like, "She will

[52:17] look into whether or not there was an

[52:18] Israel angle here." And we got the exact

[52:20] opposite thing. Anyway, I want to shout

[52:22] us out. I want and I want to give a

[52:23] special shout out to my producer Ashley

[52:25] who worked really hard. I do want to

[52:27] clear up some rumors though because some

[52:28] people were alleging

[52:30] that it was a CVS receipt when we showed

[52:34] uh Larry Loomer's receipt. That's that

[52:36] is fake news. It's conspiracy. That was

[52:38] a true Lumer receipt. We were happy to

[52:41] have Loomer here and we're grateful that

[52:43] X picked up the trend and recognized

[52:45] that Larry Loomer was in office. Check

[52:46] this out on X. Loomer confronts Owens on

[52:49] show over Kirk conspiracy theories. We

[52:51] were very happy to be joined by Larry

[52:53] Loomer. She appeared in person, X tells

[52:55] us on show to debunk her theories um

[52:58] debunk my theories. It also says that

[52:59] Owens mocked Loomer's receipts with a

[53:01] clown emoji and a fake long receipt clip

[53:04] while Loomer called it cringe. That's

[53:05] just it wasn't fake, it was real. We're

[53:07] just trying to keep track of all of

[53:08] Loomer's receipts cuz she kind of lets

[53:10] them go and uh we had time. And so we we

[53:13] really thank Larry Loomer for joining

[53:14] us. Top comment from yesterday's

[53:16] episode, by the way. Kaye said, "My day

[53:18] does not feel complete until I hear

[53:19] Candace hit us with the classic." All

[53:21] right, you guys. I don't know why I

[53:22] always say that. Just feels right. All

[53:25] right, you guys. Is it all right? I

[53:27] don't know, but it is when you're

[53:28] watching this show. Uh, this user

[53:30] writes, "Breaking news. Ivanka just told

[53:32] her dad that the Albanians are two weeks

[53:34] away from having a nuclear bomb." I bet

[53:37] they are. That sounds right to me. That

[53:39] seems like the next logical step of the

[53:41] story because, yeah, if you want the

[53:44] land, then they're just they're probably

[53:46] working on a nuke. That'll help the

[53:48] narrative. I believe her. I believe

[53:50] Ivanka. She's just she's she had the the

[53:53] aura sound behind her. So, you know, I'm

[53:56] I'm I'm team I'm team Amaka. Oh, great.

[53:58] My producers were able to pull the Erica

[54:00] clip. This is like the end of her speech

[54:03] when she got heckled and called a

[54:05] pedophile protector. A lot of emotions

[54:07] happening in her face. Anyway, this take

[54:10] a listen.

[54:12] >> Character

[54:13] a fixed disposition that radiates

[54:15] through actions.

[54:18] Every choice made for a good reason

[54:21] makes a good mark in your soul.

[54:26] Every choice made for a bad reason makes

[54:29] a bad mark in your soul.

[54:33] And one day

[54:36] all of this

[54:38] all of this this life every win

[54:43] that makes me so uncomfortable. the

[54:45] criticism,

[54:47] the heartbreak, the joy, and the sorrow.

[54:52] It'll all be reduced to dust.

[54:57] But what you etched in your soul

[55:01] remains

[55:03] forever.

[55:06] So build a life

[55:08] that can survive eternity.

[55:12] Welcome to the Women's Leadership

[55:14] Summit. We're so grateful.

[55:18] God bless you all.

[55:21] It's like a really bad daytime soap

[55:25] opera acting like why was she shaking?

[55:28] No. One day,

[55:31] one day what etches in your soul will be

[55:36] forever in your soul. You will take it.

[55:42] to dust.

[55:45] Welcome to the Women's Leadership

[55:48] Summit. That's weird. It's just It's

[55:50] weird. It's authentic. It's practice.

[55:51] It's rehearsed. It's not written by you.

[55:52] It's obvious. This is not how people

[55:53] speak. Just be normal. Stop shaking your

[55:56] head no while you're saying yes. Anyway,

[56:00] um let's get into comments from today's

[56:01] episode. We're already running over

[56:03] time. It's Friday. I'm completely

[56:04] inappropriate. Tucker, forgive me. I

[56:07] hope you're fine with me sharing that. I

[56:08] just it literally just came to my head

[56:09] right before we went live and I was like

[56:10] this is what bothers me about July. I

[56:12] totally forgot Erica was anti-Israel on

[56:15] July. Uh allegedly

[56:19] Zamit writes this Fourth of July. Let's

[56:21] all remember that it's we the people and

[56:22] not we the elites. President Trump,

[56:24] please resign if you have any dignity

[56:26] left. He has no dignity left. There's no

[56:27] point. Um he's just going to do what

[56:30] he's told to do. He has no courage.

[56:32] Forget the dignity he has no he he's a

[56:34] coward. Ally writes, "Tucker recently

[56:36] said TPUSA didn't invite him this year.

[56:38] It adds to the theory that they took out

[56:39] Charlie because he gave Tucker a

[56:41] platform and was abandoning Israel. They

[56:43] had to keep him for Amfest 2025 because

[56:45] Charlie publicly fought his donors over

[56:47] Tucker." Well, there was no question

[56:48] they were going to, you know, push out

[56:50] Tucker, push out Megan. I don't like

[56:52] like I said

[56:54] that it just has

[56:57] no energy behind it anymore. It's just

[56:59] over. The the organization died with

[57:00] Tucker. I mean, died with Charlie,

[57:02] pardon me. Sarah writes, "Tp USA

[57:04] tactics. Come on, Dan." Although you

[57:06] imagine what he had to do or agree to to

[57:08] be able to get back to his podcast.

[57:10] Yeah, he's It was just weird. Like he's

[57:12] like an He's just angry. He's like

[57:13] yapping and like you're like you're not

[57:14] saying anything of substance. You're not

[57:16] debunking Tucker. And just this tough

[57:18] guy act of like I'm You think I can't

[57:20] beat up Tucker? Like that is so played

[57:21] out that Tucker's not going to fight

[57:23] you. Like what are you talking about? He

[57:24] wears boat shoes and goes fishing. He's

[57:26] like a chill guy. You don't look cool

[57:28] doing that. her as so unbelievably lame.

[57:33] Tube writes, "They keep saying Charlie

[57:35] and Candace weren't friends. Why then

[57:36] did Erica meet Candace in such a tight

[57:38] schedule and why did Andrew called

[57:40] Candace the very first day and shared so

[57:41] many things? Make it make sense." TP

[57:43] USA, they can't. They're just trying to

[57:44] delete Charlie's history, Charlie's

[57:46] perspective, Charlie's friendships. Um,

[57:48] they fought viciously to do it. They

[57:50] couldn't sell it. They had a ton of

[57:51] money to put behind this narrative that

[57:52] Charlie and I didn't talk. The US

[57:54] magazine article, Charlie was afraid to

[57:55] talk to Candace. What are you like? We

[57:56] traveled together for years. Year years

[58:00] was afraid to talk to me. Me calling

[58:02] scared to pick up my calls. Literally

[58:05] Erica's got his phone. Publish how many

[58:06] times Candace Owens has called Charlie

[58:09] Kirk. I don't do calls. It's just not my

[58:11] thing. It's just I I don't like it's

[58:13] just the

[58:15] in your ear. You know what I'm talking

[58:16] about? I also don't like AirPods for the

[58:17] same reason. I just feel like it's

[58:20] putting stuff in my brain. So, I just

[58:22] don't do calls. I just text and I never

[58:25] answer my text messages. I'm terrible at

[58:27] that. It's just not I'm not a phone

[58:30] communicator. It's not my thing. Coach E

[58:32] writes, "When TPUSA dropped the trolling

[58:34] video, they introduced it to a room full

[58:36] of women, not us. Therefore, TPUSA was

[58:38] trolling women." Well, that's excuse is

[58:40] just not adding up. Have you heard of

[58:41] the Leah files for TPUSA audit is legit?

[58:44] I have not heard of it. Um, and I wish I

[58:47] could have done an audit of some sort,

[58:49] but I try to stay within my skill set. I

[58:51] can organize. I, you know, that's why

[58:53] I've got so many kids. I could do a

[58:54] timeline. I can't be the person that's

[58:56] behind the accounting. So, um, yeah, I

[59:00] actually should go look at some of the

[59:01] videos of people who have been doing

[59:02] that. Someone's feral GG writes, "Gate

[59:05] kid activated. Knowing the SCOP is half

[59:07] the battle. Go, Max. Christ is king."

[59:10] Totally agree. Christ is king. Truth is

[59:12] winning. And they are angry and on the

[59:15] run. Um, I think the I read all of them.

[59:19] I think I skipped one. Nope, I didn't. I

[59:21] did not skip one. Uh, lastly, Francesca

[59:24] writes, "Candice, you really Francesca

[59:26] writes, "You really need to investigate

[59:28] why Charlie's parents are not speaking

[59:29] out. An interview would make sense. I

[59:30] fear they have been forced to stand

[59:32] back." They were always really private,

[59:33] so that didn't strike me as a surprise

[59:35] at all. They were fiercely private. I

[59:37] mean, I only met them a handful of times

[59:38] when they came to a couple of Charlie's

[59:40] events. It's just not the way they

[59:41] operate. Uh, like I and I don't find

[59:44] that to be suspicious because it kind of

[59:46] it's like my in-laws. Like, they're not

[59:47] like there are people that just aren't

[59:49] wired that way. and they would never

[59:51] want to be in like they weren't involved

[59:53] in the face of politics despite how big

[59:55] Charlie was and it wouldn't be their

[59:57] natural thing to do. So

[00:00] that's my opinion. I don't think they

[00:01] were forced to stand back at all. I do

[00:03] wonder what they think about Erica.

[00:06] I'd like to know if they're watching and

[00:09] maybe I do know that some people in his

[00:11] family do watch and do support. Reach

[00:14] out. I'd love to talk to you. I'd keep

[00:15] it all off record. I promise. Anyway,

[00:17] you guys, if you'd like to support the

[00:18] show, you can head over to more

[00:20] tips@candice.com.

[00:23] And um Oh, no. That's that's so wrong.

[00:26] I'm sorry, guys. I'm like still

[00:27] jetlagged. Why would you guys give me

[00:29] more tips? You're making me look bad. If

[00:30] you'd like to support the show, you

[00:31] could head you could head to candace

[00:32] Owens.com. I don't know if I'm going to

[00:34] be able to do book club. I'm just like

[00:35] Russia exhausted. I feel like book club

[00:38] people, please don't kill me. Can I move

[00:39] it to Monday? People in book club, is it

[00:41] okay if I move it to Monday? It's like

[00:43] 7:35. I'm so tired. I have no more

[00:46] words.

[00:49] They're going to have to Forgive me. I'm

[00:50] going to have to put them in the Tucker

[00:51] basket. Please forgive me, Tucker.

[00:53] Please forgive me, people in I'm book

[00:55] club because I'm going to have to bump

[00:56] this. Can we do Monday? Tucker, I mean,

[00:59] you're not Tucker. You're Skyler.

[01:00] There's no way I can do book club. I

[01:02] think Tucker's in the control room. I'm

[01:03] coming apart on this Friday night.

[01:06] Skyler.

[01:13] Okay. Did

[01:17] Yeah, but I feel like I probably don't

[01:18] know when that's going to end. So, I

[01:19] feel like can we just do like Monday?

[01:20] Make Monday a double.

[01:23] I feel like Monday works because I'm

[01:24] like my brain is fried right now. I have

[01:26] I'm just having like a personal phone

[01:27] conversation on a podcast live with like

[01:29] 70,000 people watching. This is

[01:30] completely crazy. I need to get off air.

[01:32] Um, if you guys like to support the

[01:34] show, you go to ksoits.com

[01:36] and uh get some merch. We dropped our

[01:38] six million mug. That's why I wanted to

[01:39] mention we dropped our six million. It's

[01:41] pretty. She is pretty. Stop anticipism.

[01:43] I'm also going to like start um a

[01:45] GoFundMe. I want to buy one for Ben

[01:47] because he's very anti- Candaceist Ben.

[01:50] I just don't know why he's always

[01:51] attacking me. Ben Shapiro telling me

[01:53] people that I'm not on vacation when I

[01:54] am. I just I just want to get him one of

[01:56] these. It just feels fitting. Anyway,

[01:59] $20 for a mug. Um yeah, it's the easiest

[02:03] way to support the show. All right, you

[02:04] guys. I obviously am going to bed right

[02:06] now. I'm really sorry to the book club.

[02:07] I'm sorry to Tuck Cross and Tucker.

[02:09] Please still be my friend. It was just a

[02:10] memory. I love you, Tucker. I love

[02:12] everything you're doing.

[02:14] Troy said, "You're still talking. Go to

[02:16] bed. Rust up." Okay. Troy sent me to

[02:19] bed. I got to go. Troy says, "Bye. I'll

[02:21] see you on Monday.