Erin Molan Interviews Israeli Father Who Puts Nation Above Hostage Son's Life in Gaza

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. It's great to have your company here on the Eron Mullen show. I hope you've had a wonderful weekend. So much to get you through. Let me give you a little preview of my interview that is coming up with a man called Speaker. His son Eton is still hostage in Gaza. He's a father who clearly loves his son very much. But there's something different about his story. Something unique. He puts Israel, the country, the welfare of its people ahead of his son. Essentially, he doesn't want a hostage swap deal where terrorists are released. It is so hard to comprehend how a father would essentially not say do anything to get my son home. But it's so powerful. Uh his story needs to be listened to. And when I ask him about his son and whether or not he believes his son would agree with with the perspective and agree with his stance, his response, it will give you shivers. So, make sure you hang around for that. Let me now get you up to date with everything. Now, the accused killer of Charlie Kirk still not cooperating with police. Uh, a lot of talk about different conversations that may have appeared online prior to the murder of Charlie Kirk. Uh, police are talking to the transgender roommate of the accused killer. It just gets murkier and murkier. But I tell you what was not murky in any way, shape, or form over the weekend. And the words of his wife Erica, Charlie's wife, who spoke for the first time, I watched it it go to air live and from where she gets her strength. I mean, I was about to say, I don't know, but clearly God, they are incredibly religious. Their faith is is everything to them. And the way she spoke was so inspiring, so strong, so beautiful, a and would have given people so much hope. I was looking at something yesterday and I think the the chapters where people have signed up to Turning Point USA nearly 10,000 I think since his death which is insane. So for anyone who thought this movement was going to die because Charlie Kirk did is sorely mistaken. I want to talk about what makes what he did so unique in a second, but first, let's just have another quick listen to a bit of Erica Kirk's speech. It was incredible. Have a listen. I will never ever have the words to describe the loss that I feel in my heart. I honestly have no idea what any of this means. I know that God does, but I don't. But Charlie, baby, I know you do, too. I know you do. So does our Lord. And our world is filled with evil. But our God, you guys, our God is so good. So incredibly good. And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Already, I have seen the worldwide outpouring of love for my husband. I've heard the testimonies from people my husband inspired to get married, to start families, to seek out a relationship with God. It's the most important most important one of all. The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. But they should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battlecry. To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. >> Yeah. She is an incredibly special person and you can absolutely see why he fell madly in love with her. They went for dinner for what was meant to be a job interview. And at the end of the job interview, Charlie said to her, "You didn't get the job." And the reason is because I want to date you. And she tells the story, "It's very entertaining. It's very sweet." But I think with her maybe at the helm, maybe not. I think Turning Point USA is in really good hands. Ben Shapiro said this now. It's still up to us. I saw a lot of rumors online today. I was made aware of this by my team that I'm that I canceled some sort of college tour. That's I saw those rumors. They are false. I will be coming to college campuses, many of them, this year. So will we all, I am sure, because we're Americans and we're not going to be deterred. Charlie's voice is not silent. We're going to pick up that bloodstained microphone where Charlie left it. And to those who would intimidate, who would seek to stop us, who would seek to end free discussion, who believe that they have ownership over public spaces and can violently threaten and kill people who speak freely, we are not going to stop. And I have two words. you. So there will be a lot of people that will now move into this space, I think. But it's difficult, right? This is not just about sitting in a studio and and telling people what you think and how you feel. And by the way, that's not easy either. What made Charlie so unique was his willingness to engage and not just to engage with people who may disagree with him, but to engage with people who were specifically there to catch him out. And that's what he did. That was very different. Very different. People would go to those events to try and catch him out. So to put yourself in a position where there are cameras everywhere and to expose yourself to be vulnerable and it's so vulnerable and now we realize it was vulnerable in a completely different way as well. But to do that is very special and very difficult and not a lot of people can do that. the breadth and depth of subject matter that he had to be across to be able to confidently go into that environment where, you know, little smart Alex students would be trying to catch him out or or throwing things at him they thought might stump him. They never did. And then, you know, you look at what happened to him and the only way anyone could ever beat him was to do that. So the so the element of of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point that the thing that and I don't think it can ever be replicated in the way that he did it. But the thing that that needs to be focused on is that part of it. They need to find people who are willing to put themselves in very vulnerable situations and risk being caught out. Risk maybe not knowing. And that's okay. Charlie always knew. He his ability to retain information was second to none. But we need to find people who are willing to do that and willing to do that with young people and willing to go out to places now. I mean, people struggle to do it prior to what happened to Charlie Kirk because it's scary and that was prior to what happened to Charlie Kirk. I should now try and find people who are are not only going to be brave enough to be vulnerable and put themselves in that position, but now people who will have to accept there's an element of of risk to their life, which is just insane. Insane. I wanted to also talk to you a little bit about 9/11 um which of course uh happened the anniversary over the past couple of days since I've been off air and it's something that still makes me feel physically ill every year when when there are commemorations and every year when when people talk and when women who were pregnant and lost their their husbands and and now that child is getting married talk you know it It it feels very raw and I think particularly at the moment when we look at the threats and the challenges to the west and to the way of life that that I value and I know most of you value and care deeply about preserving. I look at the reaction of the world to 9/11 in the west. Yes, those terrorists and people who believe in in what they do celebrated. But in terms of anyone in the west, particularly not the masses, who would have tried to ever justify it ever back then? It non-existent. Yes, you had your, you know, your nut cases and whatever else, but 99.99999% of people would not have dreamed of trying to justify it. Yet, fast forward to the exact same enemy, by the way, Islamic extremism, terrorism, the exact same enemy that struck on October 7. Yet, the reaction of the world has been essentially the complete opposite. I was reading this transcript of of a man called Todd who who led the the attack on the terrorists on that plane, the one that was headed either towards the White House or the Pentagon. And I don't know why, but it it was almost more powerful in written form. And it was a transcript of his conversation with an operator. And his wife, I think, was pregnant at the time, and he had little kids. And once the operator told him what had occurred, that there were already airplanes that had gone into into buildings and he understood what was about to happen to them. To be so brave and to have so much courage. knowing that you will die. Knowing that you will die. And he got a group of passengers together. And they determined themselves that there was no option other than for them to die. But they'd be damned if they were going to let that plane kill other people unnecessarily or or strike the US at its core at those buildings where where national security I is paramount where the president resides. And I was trying to trying to comprehend how our society has shifted so significantly since then. and trying to understand the rot that has occurred that now has young people and old people and people who would not have dreamed about reacting in the way they have post October 7, post 911. Would not have dreamed. And I understand there's the Jewish element. Absolutely. That in and of itself is insane. But this woke rot that that has fested and we've allowed to it to fester. We have sat by idally for 25 years and allowed it to fester. Allowed it to come in like a cancer a and attack everything that we are meant to hold dear. and everything that that my dad that that your forefathers that a lot of you watching, a lot of veterans were willing to give your life for, whether it be in America, in the UK, in Europe, here in Australia, and how disgraceful, particularly for those who did give their life to protect what we value in the West or what we're supposed to value. how disgraceful that we have allowed the West that people have died to protect to turn into something that is unrecognizable. So looking at those memorials and looking at the commemorations, it it really got me thinking. This is the same enemy. It's the same enemy, but you could not have had more stark differences in the reactions as a whole. And that is disgraceful. Now, Tommy Robinson, we had him on the show just recently and he said this about the rally >> to me about the state of our nation, but I don't think it's time to get depressed. It's time to really rally the troops because the country is ready. It's not just the country. We're seeing your scenes out of Australia today. the entire West. This attack on family, on identity, on culture hasn't just happened in Britain. It's not just happen in Australia. All of our countries are being flooded. All of our countries are under attack. Every one of the Western nations, the most successful nations in this world are being obliterated and attacked. And I think now the people are finally waking up. So we I'm excited about September 13th. I'm excited about the fact that everyone's awake. And we're going to send a message to the world on September 13th from Great Britain. and hopefully it gives inspiration to many of us. >> Millions, millions took to the streets in the UK and said enough, enough. We are not going to allow you to label us as racists or islamophobic or bigots because we want to protect and preserve our way of life and we want to protect our daughters. That stuff doesn't work anymore and it only works if people let it. Have a listen to a little bit of what Tommy had to say. >> For the last 20 years, there has been a globalist revolution. They have attacked the family. They've attacked Christianity. They've opened the borders. They've flooded our nations. We are the start of a counter revolution. They managed to silence us for 20 years with labels. Racist, Islamophobe, far right. They don't work anymore. [Applause] The dam has well and truly burst. >> It was incredible. Absolutely incredible. And I would love to have been a fly on the wall at Star's place. Can you imagine? I I don't know why I'm thinking like Baldrick, but I can just imagine him. Baldrick, how many? How many? How many are there? A thousand or two. Baldrick. Baldrick goes, apparently millions, prime minister. And then he would have felt relieved cuz he would have thought, "Yeah, but do you know what the mainstream media will say? Still it was only a few thousand, so no one will know." He would feel sick and so he should. So weak. So weak. So weak. So weak. Now someone who is not weak. Danny Denon at the UN, Israel's longsuffering representative, super impressive guy, gave an incredible speech addressing the concerns of the UN regarding Israel's attack in Qatar. I mean, god forbid anyone at the UN might express even an iota of concern about Qatar harboring terrorists. No, don't be silly. No, no, they're much more concerned. But it's so interesting because as he references as he references they actually passed a motion back after 9/11 which enabled nations to do exactly what Israel did. Have a listen. In the aftermath of 911, the countries that uphold freedom, equality, and democracy in this council stood shouldertosh shoulder. Two weeks later, this council adopted resolution 1373. It said plainly, no state, no state may harbor terrorists. No state may fund them. No state may give them safe haven. I urge you all to read this resolution. Any government that does so breaks this council binding obligations. And when Bin Laden was eliminated in Pakistan, the question asked was not why target a terrorist on foreign soil. No one asked that question. The question was, why was a terrorist given shelter at all? >> I mean, you wouldn't read about it, would you? And by the way, just from a broadcasting perspective, um, just a little request here from little old me at the Aaron Mullen show to the United Nations because I know you guys are big fans of my stuff. Huge fans. Like I mean to be honest 90% of my views no doubt but I will make sure you see this because I think it will help you. Can you please have cameras on every single person in there? Particularly like when Israel is speaking. I want a camera on Qatar, on Iran. I I want a camera on on France. I want a camera on the I want to see the faces. Okay. I want to see their reactions. That my friends would take you to the top of the ratings. Top. Tell you someone who well had an opportunity to be at the top and then completely ruined it with this garbage. Her name is Hannah Einbinder. No idea who she is. Never heard of her. Not even going to Google her cuz I don't care. But she said this at the Emmys. Um, finally. Oh, um, I'll pay the difference. Sorry. Um, finally, um, I just want to say I just want to say finally, um, go birds. Um, and free Palestine. Thank you. >> From Hamas. >> Play it again, please. >> And free Palestine. >> From Hamas. >> And free Palestine. >> From Hamas. >> And free Palestine. >> From Hamas. Free Palestine >> from Hamas >> from Hamas. >> You're welcome. I fixed it for you. Ladies and gentlemen, again, it's lovely, wonderful to be back on this Monday. And I'd now like you to meet someone incredibly special. Incredibly special. His son held hostage currently still in Gaza. an incredible young man called Eton. But it's the stance this family has chosen to take that makes their situation incredibly unique. Please enjoy. Uh Svika, I want to start by asking you how you are. I can't even imagine. >> Yes. So uh tomorrow is my uh birthday 49. Uh yes. Then probably Eton will not be here. And I'm fine. I hope that my son is fine. I trust him. He's really tough guy. Uh he's a soldier, a combat soldier in IDF. uh as I and uh we we have a faith that Etan is okay and that we will see him come back. Can you tell me what happened to your son and the way in which it happened because when you say how tough he is that explains I think really well the kind of man that he is. >> Yes. So, uh, Etan on October 7, Etan was a security guard at the Nova Festival and save saved dozens of people before he was kidnapped. Etan was kidnapped at 12:30 by civilians from Gaza. Okay. with knives and not by kamas by civilians. Okay. And it was told at uh 6:29 that is dismissed. He can go home. But it h chose to to stay there and help people to to go home to to evacuate from all this area of the festival. And then Etan gave uh help to to people that were that were injured by by kamas kamas people and itan helped them. Then Ean and other security guards uh started to to look for um survivals and they find about 30 boys and girls that were hiding in the in the garbage and under burned cars and in the bushes and they took them uh to they they they started to run to a secure place. And about um uh 12:30, Aton and another security guard uh saw two two girls that were lying in the in the ground and they uh they saw that both of them was were raped by by the by kamas and killed, murdered, but one of them was still breathing. So Etan took her, okay, took her on on his shoulders and continued to run and then he she died. So it tan went back and put it in a pit that he saw before and he he came back to to take the the another body and then um terrorists saw him and started to shoot him. So Eton was lying in the ground and ran away ran away and on 12:30 terrorist and the civilians caught him and took him to Gaza. It says so much, doesn't it, about what someone values just that he was caught trying to rescue bodies. That's how much Israel values life and your people value life versus the enemy, doesn't it? >> Yes. Yes, of course. I think that this is our education here in my house. Um I didn't tell you that but we were parents of eight kids, four boys and four girls on and it's very regular here in uh in my uh town that we have a big families. Okay, we have here families will with 10 and 12 kids and we we educated our our children and that the state of Israel is the most important thing in our life and we have to do everything to make sure that we will continue to exist here. >> Wow. You are different to a lot of hostage families and that I think explains explains why what you just said to me. Then can you explain why you put the interest of your country and people ahead of the individual, your son who you love so much? >> Yes. Look, I don't want my son to to stay in in Gaza. I want him to to be here. I think to be to come home. I want to hug him. But I think that the the best way and the only chance that I will hug my son is to to crash Kamas, okay? To force Kamas to give us all our people. I don't think that that all these uh deals with kamas to separate the the hostages to to uh to groups groups of eight 10 three all this all this stuff I think that it's terrible it's terrible and as you know kamas didn't provide a list from day one and kamas didn't allow to the uh the red for us to visit our people. So the meaning is that kamas can say that he has only 15 hostages and he don't know what about the rest and kamas didn't didn't provide a video or photo of my son. So we of we we afraid that that will stay the there in Gaza for 10 years. So I think that that we have to first kas to to release the the hostages. And when I was when I was born on the on the 70s in the 70s it was very clear for all all the western world and especially in Israel that we're not negotiation negotiating with the terrorists and there were a lot of cases of hijacks and hotels and um and schools that that that that uh terrorists came to to schools and took uh students and in all these cases, okay, Israel um rescue rescued the the hostages and force the terrorists to to uh to surrender. And the first time that Israel was surrendered was in 1979. uh terrorists in Lebanon uh took um one soldier, one Israeli soldier and in the first time Israel paid to the terrorist 76 uh terrorist from the jail from the Israeli jail and after that in 1988 85 it was a Gibbrel deal. Israel released more than 1,000 terrorists for three soldiers. Okay. And after that was the first inifada and Oslo agreement and the second inifada. And I think that Israel became more and won and more uh weak uh against the terrorists. And I think that that I have uh that I have um the vision to stop to stop this terrible situation. We want to to to be safe in our only little country. We we want our uh babies and kids and uh grandkids to to raise here uh in a security place. So we have to be very tough with the the terrorists. So we have we have two things here. One as a as a father of a okay I I believe that this is the only way and as a civilian of my lovely state I believe that we have to stop it right now. >> When did you last speak to him? Mhm. I was the last that Soan a couple of days before October 7. Uh we we were in a trip in a in a family in in a family trip in the north and Eton Eton had to to to go back to his work. So, uh, I I went we we we were um going together and I gave him a hug and a kiss and give him and gave him some money and I'm I was the last from the family that saw him and I was the last h to talk with him by by phone and on October 6. Okay. Uh October 7 here in Israel is was Shabbat. Shabbat. and uh holiday and holiday both. So uh and in on Shabbat and holiday we are not we we're not having uh smartphone and media. Okay. We we're going to to uh to the synagogue and we're sitting together the family. We have three meals together and it's it's very it's very very special. I think that in the western world it's very unique. >> So we didn't know anything about what happened in the south on October 7 because they the they um the the Arabs on Gaza are not shooting to to the place that I'm living here in. Okay. Is the the second uh oi city for the Jewish nation. >> Wow. Okay. >> Yes. And we we're living here. Okay. And so the Arabs are not shooting to missiles to so there are not sirens. We're we're not we don't have a connect to to the media. So we didn't we didn't know anything. And and when when we were sitting here for a um a a meal again, a very special meal, uh Eton was kidnapped. >> Have you heard or seen of anything since when when did someone who maybe was released see your son alive? Do you have any idea of his current condition? >> Yes. So um uh first of all it was was missing for 10 days. >> Okay. And we we were praying that that Etan was kidnapped and not waiting for us in a refrigerator in a bag. After 10 days the Israeli intelligence told that it in in Gaza for sure but they don't know if he's alive. Just after 21 days, the intelligence came to to our house and told us that Etan is alive. >> Thanks God is alive. And there is only one hostage that saw it. His name is Ron. And Ron was released by Putin. By Putin. Yes. because Ron's parents came from Russia. So he has uh he has a Russia uh uh >> passport. >> Yes. Passport. >> So Putin Putin uh released him. >> So uh Ron was uh was 50 days in in houses of Arabs. Okay. In in hours in in Gaza. And after 50 days they took him to a tunnel. And there in the tunnel he met Etan and another uh three hostages. And he told us that Etan was uh okay completely okay. He didn't injured. Um and he was very optimistic. >> Okay. And he encouraged all the hostages um to be to be uh optimistic and happy and uh play together. And uh and they had conversations very deep conversations uh there. And the the the terrorist three terrorists uh that were that were with them um uh gave them only one pa. Okay. One pa. You know in Australia what is a pitha? >> Yeah. The pita bread. A little Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. Uh one pitha and one one jar of uh little jar of meat for one day for five men. But Etan was very very optimistic and Etan knows Arabic. So we can h help the hostages to to to talk with the uh with the terrorists. >> You know your son better than anyone. I assume you know that he would absolutely agree with your stance. >> Yes, absolutely. Look um on May itan itan birthday is in uh um May uh May um 30. Uh so we we we we used to to uh to celebrate our kids birthday on on Shabbat. Okay. Because on Shabbat everyone everyone um come home. We have soldiers here. Okay. So, um I can remember that on the last May before the war uh was what began uh we're sitting here in this table and uh my my uh my children asked me about Shalit deal because they were h they were little kids. So I told them I told them all the history and there were uh a conversation to release the terrorist or not release the terrorists and suddenly Etan told us that if um he will be kidnapped as a soldier he he doesn't allow us to to rescue him by releasing terrorists because he don't want h another Israelis to be killed because of him. And this exactly what I told my wife when I uh went to the uh second Lebanon war on 2006 in in Lebanon that if I if I will kidnap by I don't allow her to release me by releasing terrorists that will came again and and and murder Israelis. A last question. I know your time is very valuable. Do you believe that he is alive and you will get him home? >> Look, since October 7, we received three life signs from the Israeli intelligence and from the the last one one was on on March. Since then, we didn't get anything. But I believe and I can feel it that Etan is okay. I trust him, that he is okay. And yes, I'm waiting for the day to to hug my son. And I waiting to the day that Israel will win this war. We We must win this war if we want to to exist here. You are an incredible man, an incredible family, and I'm so sorry for your pain, but he would be so proud of you, and thank you so much for sharing with us, and I will continue to fight for you as well. >> Yes. I want to show you. You see, >> please. >> Yes. This is a special Neil. You see? >> Yeah. I see >> the blue and white. It's not a yellow like the yellow ribbon. It's the blue and white because we are fighting for our independence. >> Yeah. >> Okay. To live in our little only country. >> You are incredible. Thank you so so much. And I pray for you and your family. Thank you for sharing. >> Thank you. Thank you for all what you're doing for all the humanity. >> Should never have to thank me. I'm I'm It's It's crazy. I'm so sorry for your pain and again he would be so proud of you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> It's incredible, isn't it? Um unimaginable and how blessed are those of us who never have to be in that position to make a choice like that. Time for fan feedback. And as I say each week, even if you hate me, if you are engaging with my content, you are a fan. Let's go in and have a quick look. Someone actually sent me an email telling me that the intro I do the good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night is indeed from a Jim Carrey movie. So, The Truman Show. That's right. Thank you so much, Mark, for sending that through. I really appreciate it cuz I was trying to figure out where I'd gotten it from. I mean, yes, I obviously had stolen it. I didn't make it up myself, but I like it because I feel like it it's inclusive of people all around the world because this is a global show. Okay. Uh I'm not going to say his name, but Erin, you're a star. However, every time I see you, you're dressing more and more provocatively. How should your viewers take you seriously? Guys, I mean, everyone has the right to have an opinion on what I look like, what I wear. I've said this before. My mother hates half the things I wear. I get it. But please know this now. You are wasting your time trying to encourage me or convince me to change. I won't. And you ask, "Dear man, how should your viewers take you seriously?" Well, I'll tell you how my viewers should take me seriously. Because of the substance of what I say, because of what I fight for, because of what I stand for, not because of what I wear. That's how my viewers should take me seriously. Thank you so much for asking. Conor McGregor when I spoke about uh him running for president. Uh Bernie Oor says Conor McGregor is a child of Ireland and Ireland is beating in his heart. I'll be voting for him. He's a fighter. Someone said, "I thought I was hearing actor Richard Harris. Sounds a bit like him." Now, this one, this one made me laugh out loud. But if he wins, Rosie O'Donnell might have to move to another country. Maybe he should use that in his campaign. I wonder if there's ever been an election where someone has won with 100% of the vote. 100%. I reckon if he does put that on his platform, we could see it for the first time ever in Ireland. But then wish she could go to France. Heron Mcron. Oh my gosh. They could do coffee. They'd be best friends. That'd be really sweet actually. Sven. Seven sins. Sven. Seven. Seven sins says, "I totally understand. This is off the back of uh one of my clips, but can you speak faster? You could have said all that in 45 seconds." I mean, fair point, but you try getting to a 40minute show three times a week. If I just got here and said, "Hey guys, world peace, don't kill people. Terrorists are bad. Fight for democracy. Bye." I mean, it would be a pretty boring uh short-lived show, wouldn't it? I use words. You're meant to enjoy them. You're meant to enjoy the way in which I express myself. And if you don't, then why are you here? Oh, the dirty woodsman. Why is this dril being recommended to me? Dil? I've not heard that word in so long. My mother used to always say the word dril. What's this dil? Or maybe it was my dad. No, actually, maybe it was dad. Sounds like something dad would say. What's this dil? I don't know why it's being recommended to you, but give me a chance. The Dirty Woodsman. Give me a chance. And you're a powerful and courageous woman, Eron, fighting for good and resisting evil. A very heartfelt message. And I'm allowed to read out a compliment because like three of them today were really not that nice. But again, thank you for watching. Thank you for engaging. I love you all. I really do. I'm so grateful for all of you here in this community. My favorite thing in the world to do is go through comments and read them. Not on articles, not necessarily on my social media, but on my YouTube and podcast. I don't think you can comment, but if you listen to the podcast, and I love you podcast listeners and you want to comment, go on to my YouTube to the episode that you listen to and write me a comment cuz I read them all. So, keep them coming. Love you all and I will see you tomorrow in the morning, the afternoon, the evening or the night. Take care. 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