Forgiving the Unforgivable: Erika Kirk’s Powerful Testimony

[00:00] My two favorite moments of the entire

[00:02] memorial,

[00:04] three actually. So we'll get to the

[00:05] third here in a second, but my my two

[00:07] really powerful moments that stand out

[00:09] to me from yesterday came from the vice

[00:10] president of the United States and of

[00:12] course Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk, my

[00:14] beautiful friend. But JD Vance's entire

[00:16] speech was amazing. We could watch all

[00:18] 15 20 minutes of it together. I want us

[00:20] to watch this one moment because he's

[00:23] having this look in the mirror reckoning

[00:25] moment with himself that yes, I am

[00:27] deeply Christian. Everything that I do

[00:29] is rooted in Christian values and

[00:31] Christian faith and my relationship with

[00:33] God. But I'm embarrassed of the fact

[00:36] that I haven't said enough about it yet.

[00:38] And that's always going to be the most

[00:40] important thing to me. So, we're never

[00:42] going back. Listen to his words.

[00:45] You know, I was telling somebody

[00:48] backstage

[00:51] that I always felt a little

[00:52] uncomfortable talking about my faith in

[00:54] public. As much as I loved the Lord and

[00:57] as much as it it was an important part

[00:59] of my life, I have talked more about

[01:02] Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than

[01:05] I have my entire time in public life.

[01:29] I have talked more about Jesus Christ in

[01:31] the past two weeks than I have in my

[01:36] entire life.

[01:38] It's not about him. It's not even about

[01:41] Charlie.

[01:42] It's about our movement, our country,

[01:46] our government, and our world.

[01:49] Taking a step back, taking a deep

[01:51] breath, looking at the life of this

[01:54] extraordinary young man who is not here

[01:56] with us today because of evil and asking

[02:00] what was it all about for him? Why did

[02:02] he get out of bed in the morning? Why

[02:04] was he ready? And he expressed this to

[02:06] many people ready if evil did strike to

[02:11] give his life for this. It wasn't about

[02:13] who was running for president. It wasn't

[02:14] about American history alone.

[02:18] This was about something so much bigger

[02:20] than ourselves. And somewhere along the

[02:23] way in our country, we've lost it. We've

[02:27] lost our connection to the divine. And

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[04:18] There's a lot of speculation that a

[04:20] political career is about to launch for

[04:22] Charlie's widow. my beautiful friend

[04:24] Erica Kirk. I think it's way too soon

[04:26] for us to speculate on exactly what's

[04:28] next for her beyond her new role. By the

[04:30] way, congratulations Erica as president

[04:32] and CEO of the board of directors for

[04:35] Turning Point USA.

[04:37] But no one exhibited that that quiet

[04:40] strength, that faithful fortitude and

[04:44] the willingness to empty of ourselves

[04:47] and become a vessel for God yesterday

[04:50] more than Erica Kirk. Her strength.

[04:53] Oh, I'm going to try not to cry cuz I

[04:55] cried too much yesterday.

[04:57] Choke it up. Isabelle,

[05:00] her strength was

[05:02] the most extraordinary thing I've ever

[05:04] seen. Truly. And I remember I texted my

[05:07] dad, "This event and particularly this

[05:09] speech is the most beautiful thing I've

[05:11] ever seen."

[05:13] In her time on stage, she honors

[05:15] Charlie's life. She talks about what's

[05:16] next for Turning Point, of course. But

[05:19] by far the most moving moment where you

[05:22] could hear a pin drop in an arena of

[05:26] 73,000 people is when Erica Kirk said

[05:30] this.

[05:34] My husband Charlie,

[05:38] he wanted to save

[05:42] young men

[05:45] just like the one who took his life.

[05:50] [Applause]

[06:05] That young man,

[06:08] that young man

[06:10] on the cross, our savior said,

[06:17] "Father, forgive them for they not know

[06:21] what they do."

[06:25] That man,

[06:28] that young man

[06:33] I forgive him.

[06:35] [Applause]

[07:04] I forgive him because it was what Christ

[07:07] did

[07:09] and is what Charlie would do.

[07:13] The answer to hate is not hate.

[07:17] The answer we know from the gospel is

[07:19] love and always love.

[07:23] love for our enemies

[07:25] and love for those who persecute us.

[07:33] It hits

[07:35] the exact same. That's like the fifth

[07:38] time that I've watched that.

[07:43] Total tangent side note here for a

[07:45] second. The left would like for you to

[07:48] believe and our culture would like for

[07:49] you to believe that strong women are

[07:52] angry.

[07:54] That they're hardened, they're tough,

[07:59] they lack vulnerability,

[08:01] they lack femininity, they lack a

[08:03] softness to them.

[08:06] Can anyone with a soul watch that clip,

[08:10] watch that moment, let alone be there in

[08:12] that room? I mean, you saw how people

[08:14] were viscerally reacting in such a

[08:15] powerful way to what she just said. Can

[08:18] anyone watch that moment and genuinely

[08:20] tell me that that's not the strongest

[08:21] woman you've ever seen in your life?

[08:26] And yet, she's the exact opposite of

[08:28] what culture tells you is empowering.

[08:31] She's soft. She's quick to forgive. She

[08:34] gave that speech 11 days after her

[08:38] husband was violently assassinated

[08:41] to say, "I forgive you."

[08:46] She's vulnerable. She's crying in front

[08:48] of literally a hundred million people

[08:50] who were projected to be watching that

[08:52] live across various streams yesterday.

[08:55] But she's authentic.

[08:58] She realizes if this was just about me,

[09:00] of course I would hate.

[09:03] Of course, I would never forgive, but

[09:05] it's not because the answer to hate is

[09:08] always more love. And the answer to our

[09:10] brokenness and to sin is always God.

[09:15] You could genuinely, I know I've said it

[09:17] four or five times, but I think it bears

[09:18] repeating. You could genuinely feel the

[09:21] Holy Spirit move through every one of

[09:24] these speakers, through every single

[09:26] person sitting in the crowd. I have

[09:28] never sat in a room that felt like that

[09:32] ever. And I know it's not going to be

[09:34] the only room that I sit in in the next

[09:36] year or so as this revival sweeps an

[09:40] entire generation throughout the world,

[09:42] but certainly also transforms our

[09:45] country. I mean, for goodness sakes, the

[09:48] White House, the official White House

[09:51] Instagram and Tik Tok account ended up

[09:54] posting this after the event yesterday.

[10:06] [Music]

[10:53] The White House. The White House posted

[10:56] that people.

[10:58] What? We're back, baby.

[11:01] Oh, we're so back. If this is what

[11:04] people call Christian nationalism, I

[11:06] want this injected into my veins every 5

[11:09] seconds, okay? Because this is not

[11:10] forcing anything upon anyone. This is

[11:14] one nation under God. This is who we

[11:16] were designed to be. And I have never

[11:19] felt prouder

[11:21] of being an American. I've never felt

[11:23] prouder of fighting in this conservative

[11:25] movement. I've never felt prouder of

[11:27] supporting this administration.

[11:31] And it's not going to be easy. It's not

[11:33] going to be easy for any of us, but it's

[11:35] certainly not going to be easy for them

[11:37] in positions of of elected power. Before

[11:40] I transition into some thoughts on that,

[11:41] I want to leave you with one of the more

[11:43] poignant things said about how we move

[11:46] forward from here. Because I think it

[11:49] still is hitting all of us who know

[11:51] Charlie in waves every 15 minutes to

[11:53] every few hours that he's really gone.

[11:56] That he's not just going to walk out on

[11:58] stage at the next thing or host his

[12:00] podcast tomorrow or shoot us a text with

[12:02] a random Bible verse. That he really is

[12:04] gone from this life. He's more alive

[12:05] than we are, but he's gone from this

[12:07] life. And Secretary Kennedy had a really

[12:10] powerful

[12:11] anecdote to share with the audience. Uh

[12:13] all 73,000 of us and all 100 million of

[12:16] you that watched that live yesterday

[12:18] that got brushed over because it wasn't

[12:20] one of the flashier things that was

[12:21] said, but I think was one of the more

[12:23] meaningful things that was said. He

[12:25] asked his mother in the wake of his

[12:27] brother dying, "Does the pain of losing

[12:30] someone, does the hole that they leave

[12:32] really ever go away?" And of course, his

[12:35] mom lost her husband and her

[12:36] brother-in-law to assassinations a lot

[12:38] like this. And here's what she had to

[12:40] say in response.

[12:43] A few years ago, my brother David died.

[12:47] And I asked my mother,

[12:50] "Does the hole that they leave in you

[12:53] when they die, does it ever get any

[12:55] smaller?" And she said to me, "It never

[12:58] gets any smaller, but our job is to grow

[13:01] ourselves bigger around the whole." And

[13:04] we do that by taking the best qualities,

[13:06] the best most admirable character traits

[13:09] of the person that died and integrate

[13:12] them with restraint, with discipline,

[13:14] with practice into our own character.

[13:17] And in doing that, we make ourselves

[13:20] larger and the whole gets proportionally

[13:23] smaller. We also give a kind of

[13:26] immortality to the person who left us

[13:29] because their work continues through us.

[13:34] Their work continues through us.

[13:39] And it's up to us to take the best

[13:41] qualities and the best attributes of the

[13:44] person who died and diligently,

[13:47] willingly work them into our own lives

[13:50] to carry their torch forward. That's how

[13:52] we make our lives bigger proportionally

[13:56] around the hole that is left when

[13:58] they're missing from us and when they're

[14:00] missing from our movement. That's what

[14:02] we need to do with Charlie.

[14:05] I've come to realize and appreciate more

[14:07] in the last couple of days than ever

[14:09] before in my work as a commentator and a

[14:12] creator that freedom, something I say I

[14:15] fight for every day. It's something I

[14:16] think we all say we fight for every day.

[14:18] Freedom can't just mean our right to do

[14:21] whatever we want. I think we've tried

[14:24] that in the last couple of years and it

[14:27] hasn't worked out very well for the

[14:28] country. But real freedom, genuine

[14:31] liberty has to come out of our call to

[14:34] do and say what we should,

[14:38] not just whatever we want, or we will

[14:40] very, very quickly lose our society at

[14:43] the hands of evil. Make absolutely no

[14:46] mistake about it. is it is up to us.

[14:48] It's up to every single one of you

[14:50] listening to this today, every one of us

[14:53] who knew and loved Charlie and every one

[14:55] of our children to come afterwards to

[14:58] see this Charlie-sized hole to use RFK's

[15:01] expression and to make our lives, our

[15:04] movement, our faith and our foundation

[15:06] grounded in God so much bigger, bigger

[15:11] than we ever thought possible, bigger

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[17:09] Yesterday's service was devastating and

[17:11] so so heartbreaking. It was truly one of

[17:14] the hardest things I've ever had to sit

[17:16] through. But it was also so beyond

[17:20] empowering. It was a wakeup call for

[17:23] everyone sitting in that audience. Even

[17:25] if you were the president of the United

[17:27] States, that we can no longer be

[17:29] lukewarm about truth and lukewarm about

[17:32] our faith. We can no longer just quietly

[17:35] pray in our rooms at home and fail to

[17:37] bring our prayers out to the public. We

[17:40] cannot idally expect someone else to

[17:42] morally lead our society. We have to.

[17:46] And especially because the boldest and

[17:48] the loudest and the most fearless and

[17:51] courageous advocate for real freedom

[17:54] grounded in truth is no longer with us.

[17:58] All of us have to work together to

[18:01] proportionately make this movement so

[18:03] much bigger than we ever thought

[18:04] possible.

[18:13] [Music]