Glenn Beck Honors Charlie Kirk: Civil Rights Leader, Cultural Revolutionary, and Voice of a Generation

[Music] The Charlie Kirk show begins in 10 seconds. [Music] I talk to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media. Said differently, I visit college campuses so you don't have to. [Applause] We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change. They know that something is wrong. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion national decline is a choice. Today is our 2-year-old's birthday. And I look at my daughter and that is my why. For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean. >> There is no mountain that stands tall as your faithfulness. There is no river that runs wide as your goodness, [Music] >> man. Charlie, uh, I I remember when we were starting these out and >> it was that like that, >> you know, it was like this. It was like it was like your average >> first three rows. It was like your average political meeting where there was like 12 people in a room and uh this is this is awesome. >> This, in my personal opinion, was the most over-the-top Trump event that I've ever covered. >> This is the number one boots on the ground operation in the country. We're working directly in harmony with the Trump campaign. It's been vetted. It's been cleared. It's been blessed as you could see there. And we're going to try to win this thing. No guarantees. It's what we do that matters. >> Mr. President, I can tell you this room is 100% with you. and we have your back. God bless you. Thank you. [Music] [Applause] [Music] As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily at the University of South Florida, throwing it down with the students. It's going to be a lot of fun. Uh we are excited to continue this cultural movement that we have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters, more college chapters, and disagreement is not just welcome, it is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's what it's all about. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] because you're not supposed to be involved in this. You're supposed to just kind of be on the vote for me every four years, give me more political power, and stay out of my business. And what has happened is we are seeing an explosion in citizen participation. There is nothing else following me. All my days your mercy follow me. [Applause] Oh, there is nothing else I'll ever need. Knock on that extra door. Go that extra mile. talk to that extra friend because throughout voting month and culminating on the 5th of November, I believe it will go down as a day that people remember, as a day that is written about in history books, as the final battle from the golden escalator on down. From defeating Hillary Clinton, from the nonsense of 2020, from Butler, Pennsylvania, November 5th, it all culminates where we restore the promise that the founders gave us. and they said, "Hey, if the people want it, the people get it, and we the people take back America. God bless Arizona." And thank you so much. [Music] Every day, the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in this country, we are a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk-taking. We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness. And we are just getting started. All my days your mercy followed me. [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Every day there's a battle for your mind raging. Information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk show. Buckle up. Here we go. I remember driving around and as a sophomore and a junior in high school listening to your radio program in the morning. >> I wasn't there when you gave the speech at the Lincoln Memorial. Is that right? >> But I saw it. I remember saw it being simoc casted and uh you you said some very I think prophetic things there. >> I know it. I have been looking for the next George Washington. >> I can't find him. He may be 8 years old, but this is the moment. >> And now 18-year-old Charlie Kirk is saying enough is enough. >> This is Charlie Kirk reporting from Marquette University. I I like ideas. I don't like politicians. I don't like parties. I like principle. Do not go quietly when truth is on the line. >> I mean, democratic socialism, you know, the people's social, it's socialism, which inherently means the following. It is immoral. It is evil. It is impractical when put in practice. >> Do not surrender to the shadows. But I'm here for the silent majority that is silent no longer to give them the courage, confidence, and conviction to fight on campuses. >> Even when and especially if you think the battle can no longer be won. >> We're not going to allow the ruling class elites, the radical left to continue to destroy this country from within. And we are a movement here that is growing by leaps and bounds. Charlie Kirk lived that mandate >> and I believe that marriage is a beautiful thing and I believe that having children is a moral good for society. >> Biggest blessing. >> Oh, without a doubt. >> I don't think you know the impact. You say, "Oh, Glenn, you made an impact on my life." Do you realize the impact you're having on the country? Remember when I did the thing in Washington DC and restoring honor? >> I do. And I said, "Somewhere in this crowd, maybe he's seven, maybe he's 15, somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington." >> And 25 years from now, he will come not to this stair, but to those stairs. >> We want to overemphasize grace when in reality, Christ loves us too much >> to have us continue to live in sin. He wants us to try to elevate our actions to glorify God in all that we do. >> And he can proclaim, "I have a new dream." >> I just went to church for the first time in several years. >> Today we went to church for the first time in a really long time. >> I've never ever opened a Bible before and something was calling me to my husband's Bible. >> Here's the line for the second service. And there's never a line. Jesus of Nazareth. And the resurrection is the is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live. The light is dimming, yes, but it always does before the dawn. [Music] Hello, my name is Glenn Beck and I am a friend of Charlie Kirks. You may not know who I am, but uh one thing I am known uh for is uh my emotions. And uh I think we're going to need a tarp today. Um this is I knew this was going to be difficult, but to sit in the studio. right next to his chair is more difficult than I uh imagined. I want to talk to you a little bit about the future, but I want to talk to you a little bit about my friend as well. I knew Charlie when he was young. I first met him, I think he was 17 years old. He was amazing. He was so well read, so smart, so clear. I thought, "This is an amazing man." I remember the first time I met Ben Shapiro. I think he was 13 years old. I interviewed him the first time he was sitting on his family's washing machine doing an interview with me and he said he was on a phone that used to have it was a hard line so it had the phone wire that he had to pull it all the way around and he couldn't keep his sister quiet so he went in and closed it on the phone wire and sat on the washing machine stop it I'm gonna be on the Glen Beck Oh, and he was impressive. But there was something special about Charlie Kirk. I want to share a story. that I've never shared before and I so regret that we ran out of time. It's a story that I had hoped to tell Charlie myself in the next couple of months. When I first met Charlie, and this the kind of guy he was, he was so gracious. I first met him, he was young, and I said, "So, what do you want to do? What is it you want? What What do you want to do? so gracious. He said, "I want to be you. I want to do what you do." Let me translate. I want to be Rush Limba. He didn't want to be me. He wanted to be Rush Limbbo. He wanted to be one of the, as Rush said, radio's greatest of all time. And I remember thinking, "Well, kid, maybe someday." because I think you have it. I brought something with me today that I thought was appropriate while I did the show that I would sit in front of Charlie's microphone. It was given to me after the death of Rush Limbbo by his wife. It is Rush's golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it sits in front of Charlie's microphone. What I would have said to Charlie was you were thinking too small. I want to be Rush Limbbo someday. I'm a broadcaster. Rush was a broadcaster. But Charlie was a broadcaster and a narrowcaster. Charlie was a pastor and a priest. And listening to the way he could argue and think differently, he was a rabbi as well and one of the best. He was a political organizer. He was a political think tank himself. He was a compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbbo by miles. We'll continue in a minute. [Music] We must stop calling Charlie anything other than a civil rights leader. We need to plant that stake deep. It is time that we point out that what he was doing was not politics. What he was doing was trying to stand up for people's civil rights to show people how a civilization is not a civilization. Unless you can have a dialogue with people who are diametrically opposed to you that that don't believe anything that you believe in and yet you can have a civil dialogue and how important that is. That's our civil right, our right to free speech. And that gunman was trying to take that right away from him and from you and everyone else. Shut up. You will be silenced. You will not say those things. And there has been a force in this country to try to convince people that you don't have a right that you have a responsibility to silence others. You don't. In this country, one of our main civil rights is we can express ourselves the way we feel we need to express ourselves. And I'm sorry if you don't like it. You have to just take it and then say, "I'd like to have a discussion with you on that. I'd like to know how you got there. I'd like to have the opportunity to to argue against that and you have that right to argue against it. And hopefully if we are more like Charlie Kirk, we're having those dialogues with each other in a civilized fashion. But make no mistake, Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader as much as Martin Luther King. >> Found liable for slander in a slanted Manhattan jury. Tell me, what year was she raped? >> Oh, I don't know. >> She doesn't know either, actually. when she was asked >> the the court found >> No, they did not. A jury found him liable for smear and slander around this topic. Do you know that Eugene Carol said quote rape is sexy? >> She said that on air on the Anderson Cooper show. Eene Carol says you know the facts surrounding the case. >> Uh a little bit. >> Tell me. >> No. No. All right. All right. All right. Okay. >> Tell me. Um, Trump was, I don't know, indicted, found guilty for sexual abuse over her because he fingered her unconscious. >> He was, he was never ever indicted. He was never that this was a civil case that was around her, this was around smear and slander and defamation. Again, according to Eugene Carol's recollection, she can't remember the year, but she says, "Some afternoon, Donald Trump took me into a Tiffany store, at the height of his power, at the height of his popularity, when he was on the front cover of Playboy magazine and decided to go rape Eene Carol." Really? We're supposed to believe that? >> I don't I've seen pictures of Trump of uh Donald Trump and Epstein hanging out. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, you know, he he kicked him out of the Mara Lago Club. What's the next point? Uh because Epstein raped kids and >> yeah, >> you have to kick him out if he rapes kids. Like you can't have that personal. >> Got it. So what what's the contention? >> Uh I don't He raped kids. >> Trump Trump raped kids. >> Yeah. Jean Carol when she was 13. >> She wasn't 13. This the accusation was when in her late 20s, not when she was 13. >> 13. your typical liberal. Everybody give it up for him. Thank you very much. >> The government. >> No, I love >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Good afternoon, Charlie. Thank you. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you for letting me speech. I'm u studying abroad from Italy for this semester. I sorry. >> Yeah, from Roma. I I've seen your videos online and uh I really respect what uh what you are doing here. I have a question because in Europe you are facing the same problem with illegal immigration and what are your stance on illegal families who came here many years ago and now are working and paying taxes in your country? Every person who has come here illegally must be returned to their country of origin. >> And and I completely agree with you. I'm here to say something. I really like the speech that JD Vance did in Munich after the terrorist attack. >> Do we like JD Vance? Everybody. Isn't JD great? >> Well, I'm not American, but I like him too. If I were American, I would have voted for him. However, um in in Europe, we having a a big problem with illegal immigration. People are coming that they don't respect our laws that raping women stabbing is dangerous to go around. So, I don't understand when people come here to talk to you, liberals and democrats saying that they want to welcome the them because you don't know who is entering in your country. >> Amen. And I'll tell you, we need more legal immigrants like you in this country. I'll tell you why. And it makes me upset that for me, for me it's difficult. I'm respecting the law. I'm here. If I I have to be here legally, I'm going to go back to Italy because I cannot work. And it makes me upset seeing someone that comes here illegally and does whatever he wants. That's it. >> God bless you. [Music] >> Andrew Kovette is with us. You were here a week ago. We're a week away. And what? Same time. >> Yeah, we're probably about 2 hours or so out from, you know, the the exact time of being a week. >> How are you doing? How's everybody at Turning Point doing? Well, after you made everybody ball their eyes out uh in your first segment, you're open, Glenn, and I I mean, >> I just I have to say thank you for that. I I can't even believe I'm seated so close to Rush's golden EIB microphone. >> And Charlie and I, >> I can't say how many times we said the golden ei microphone. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And uh you It was beautiful. We were all crying out in the control room. And so I am right now in this moment very emotional >> and I know that you watched his story grow and that tribute about the the next George Washington and >> and how he was Charlie was so aware of that speech you gave and he wasn't there in person but he watched he watched it u somewhere else uh live and um I u I right now I don't have many words because of how moving that was you Oh, I said the other day, and I don't mean this I mean I'm not saying this to self-randise um at all, but I looked at him almost like a professional son, you know what I mean? I looked at him and because I watched him from a distance and I and I saw him young and I saw his desires and how he built and everything that he did. And as I was thinking about that, as I packed that microphone up yesterday, I I was thinking about him and I thought Charlie would have been president. >> Yeah, >> Charlie would have been president. Rush wasn't president. Rush didn't have a desire to be president. And I don't know if Rush would have made a good I'd make a horrible president. I don't know. Rush would have been a better president than me. Charlie could have been a great president. He He surpassed all of us. I don't know if there's another person in history on our side, at least in the last 150 years, that was like Charlie. to replace Charlie, you need maybe six people at the top of their craft to cover everything that he has done. >> Yeah. You know, I can't tell you how many times I was with Charlie and people would beg him, you have to run for president. You have to run for president. And Charlie would always, you know, say, no, no, no. I'm I'm happy doing what I'm doing. And I will say Charlie was >> the existence of JD Vance >> Mhm. gave Charlie a lot of emotional freedom to say that next man up is JD. Our job is to support JD. Yeah. >> And I uh you know, we wouldn't necessarily be loud and proud about that on this show because we understand there's dynamics, but >> you know, Charlie was in so many ways being honed and sharpened and >> he was >> Yeah. for such a job. And there was >> Look at the difference in him in 10 years. >> Yeah. >> 15 years. Look at the difference in him. >> Can you imagine if he had 10 more years to keep sharpening? Oh my gosh. I mean, and people need to understand that. Yes, Charlie was a brilliant communicator. Yes, he was an autodidact who kept studying the classics and political and philosophy and theology and all these things. And he was deeply deeply sincere in his faith, but he was also so skilled at the quiet things, the behind the scenes things. And he would honor people. He was trusted. If if you got into a heated discussion in private with Charlie, nobody would ever hear about that. If anything happened, he because his goal was to keep people together. He understood that there are so many forces in our world, in our politics that are ripping everybody apart. And I said this I said this yesterday, but it bears repeating. He just a few weeks before his death, he sent me this hierarchy of what the Greeks considered to be the highest virtues and the highest callings. And he said to me, he said,"Andrew, we are not the actors and the entertainers that are at the bottom." That's how the Greeks put it. He said, "We we need to strive to be statesmen and philosophers up at the top and theologians." >> And he said, "This is what we're trying to be. Not that anybody could do that. Not everybody can do that." And God, he he knew that God had put him in a position that he could keep people together. And so, you know, there would be times where everybody wanted us to go all in on this story or go all in on that. And Charlie saw three steps ahead all the time. He was always thinking long term, what will that do to the movement? And so, he would craft his messaging and his strategy. And, you know, who we invited to what, you know, around how do you how do you manage this current moment so that everybody is still a part of this thing. >> I can't thank you enough for inviting us >> to be here. We are enough for coming. >> No, I mean it is an honor. I called Stu yesterday and I said, "Steu, you should come with me." And he said, "This this is history in the making." I mean, >> it's an honor to be here. >> Yeah. Well, you honor us and you're a beautiful tribute and open to him. And I know we're not done yet, but no, >> I I I can't thank you enough. >> Thank you. God bless. And God bless everybody at TPUSA. Want to get involved? Go to tpusa.com. [Music] Hamilton and Madison and Jay who were the obviously the designers of and explainers of the US Constitution. They wanted spirited tension between the branches. They they they wanted collision. They wanted the branches to kind of not to be at war with each other but to have different opinions on how governing should they this idea that the executive branch must bend a knee because Congress has appropriated the money. And so look in addition to that is if we can get this is where the other thing is that I was pushing for and I don't think it's going to happen is if we can reauthorize the presidential reorganization act which has been authorized in many times which essentially says if an agency can do the work that is duplicative of another agency it no longer needs to exist. So let's just take the department of education which needs to end it. The department of education needs to be shut down. Do you guys agree? And the department of education. So, do you believe do you believe Linda McMahon cuz she's a great manager. >> She's phenomenal. >> Is she a managed to the close? >> She she shares the president's stated plan to close the Department of Education. But let's just take three examples how that can happen before you close it. Student loans. What? That should be under Department of Treasury. Put that under Treasury. There's no reason it should be there. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why do we have it? That was the problem. >> I agree. That's going to require Congress. Like that's what I'm getting at though is at least you can break apart. I agree. We should get rid of any subsidized student loans. I'm just getting at this is the way that you can actually weaken an agency to no longer exist through duplicative type processing. >> School assisted lunch, you can make an argument for it or against it. >> But school assisted lunch basically that the taxpayers need to, you know, pay for lunch. That could be under Department of Agriculture. They do food stamps. Much better done. Then finally, they have this whole separate office of the Department of Education that is Senate confirmed tier 2 position that is the Office of Civil Rights. Put that under the Department of Justice. They don't need your own civil rights division in the Department of Education that goes and harasses our Christian schools and goes after conservative kids. So, you can completely close that. That's three functions. All of a sudden, the Department of Education inherently weakens. And and you know this, Glenn, the Department of Education actually never existed. It used to be called HEW, Health, Education, and Welfare. Yep. And in fact we could we could remmerge these together and then we could find duplicative type processes and better better synergies. That is even before we get more to the fundamental question of which I have and you have I don't think the department of education is constitutional. I I do not think that is in the original intent as written that the federal government has any role in the education of our children. Period. What what progressives do understand, but the actual voter that votes usually with Democrats don't understand is uh I don't have a problem with the way you live in California. You want you want to live in California and you want to, you know, be as insane as you are, you can do that. Your own community can vote for that and that's that's fine. I'm not going to pay for it and don't force me to live that way, you know. Uh, and that's unfortunately the problem. We have San Francisco values. That's right. In small towns that do not agree with those values at all. >> And it's forced upon them. It's forced upon them because it's federal. The Office of Civil Rights, the Department of Education. And even worse, I mean, you guys remember this was not a very covered um issue. The Department of Education was using school assisted lunch funding to force transgender bathrooms. Do you remember this? It was a lesson like they said, "We are not going to give money for kids that need assistance for lunch if you don't have radical transgender policies." So, what we've done is we've created this insane leverage that the Department of Education should not have over local municipalities and school districts. >> Let me prove it to you. >> It's dishonest. It's honest though. >> Let me prove it to you. When someone is quote unquote brain dead, do you know that they still respond if someone stabs them? Their norepinephrine goes up. Do you know that a woman still mer menrates if she's brain dead? So consciousness is not human worth. There's something else going on beyond consciousness that exists in a being that is the soul. >> Okay. So now we're getting into a conversation of what the difference between a soul and a consciousness is. >> No, they're totally different. The soul is the something beyond consciousness is your narration to yourself. Your ability to reason. There's something above reason. All of us know what that is when it kicks in. You ever hear the expression words can't describe? I am speechless. You know why? Speech is reason. When you see a sunset that takes your breath away. when you see a newborn life that is born, you don't even have the words to express it because it transcends you. I agree with that. That is your soul. >> So, so I mean that's a good point like when when we give so you what you just labeled there is like when a child is given born when they're born we give such moral significance to that not the fact that like they got infertilized by an egg I don't want to celebrate I want to sort of like I'd rather celebrate my birthday rather than like you know the day my parents had sex. That's kind of a little weird situation. You know what I mean? Like if life begins at concept conception. >> Well it's called your birthday for a reason. You were you were a living being. Not >> it seems that like society 9 months prior >> gravitates to this idea of like an actual human being existing that no value. Right? >> One is your entrance to the world. The other one is the actual creation of your being. Two different things. Your birthday is when you entered the world. For example, your birthday could be at 28 weeks, not 36 weeks. So everybody has a different day when you exit the womb, but it's not when your worth begins. That's not when your value begins. That's simply when you exit the womb. >> Right. Right. So I I have a good question. And I really want to get back to this uh idea of like you give more moral value to the level of the fact that like that humans that are developed have a soul in comparison to like you know as I [Music] election. We want to try to lose by less with younger voters and then we are going to create the most sophisticated low propensity get out the vote turnout machine um in in modern political history for the right. And here was our our our theory of the case first on the on the get out the vote which is that we believed that there were millions of people that were Trump supporters that were not Trump voters. The people that would say yay Trump and they would be with them but they weren't putting a ballot in a box. They weren't casting a vote. And we >> uh welcome to uh the Charlie Kirk show. My name is Glenn Beck. I am filling in for uh Charlie. Let me describe the scene. I got here this morning about 4:30 a.m. I do a national radio program. Starts at 9:00 a.m. uh Eastern time. So by 6:00 we were broadcasting and there wasn't anybody here. Everybody is getting some well-deserved sleep. It looks like I mean nobody here has slept for a while. Um and uh we got here and there's police that barricade the the road right in front and there are police all around. Um and it's a an enormous tribute uh that is on the road sitting in front of TPUSA. Uh people have come it reminded me honestly of Princess Diana. I hadn't seen the outpouring like this since Elvis died and when Princess Diana died. Um it's just this amazing uh outpouring of love. During the show, during my national radio broadcast, um we uh my staff walked in and said, "You have to move to another building. There is a" and somebody here in front apparently put a package down and then gave a bomb threat. um turned out to be just some I don't know I don't know um but um Satan thinks that he still can win and the more he pushes the uh the brighter the light is going to get. I want to go to Ryan Morrow. Uh I talked to him earlier today because one of the things that we have to do is we have to stop the funding of all of these things that are on the left that we have honestly now started to find out. I mean, I've been exposing this this stuff on chalkboards for years and years, almost two decades now, and how the George Soroses, etc. of the world, um, are funding all of the worst of the worst. And Ryan, um, has done his work and has really, uh, come up with some smoking guns, especially on George Soros, Donald Trump can use as RICO charges. Um, and uh, Ryan is here to lay this all out. What did you find, Ryan? >> Well, we had some amazing findings. according to George Soros's own files from his open society foundations. Uh so myself, my colleagues at Capital Research Center basically went through as many grants of his as many funding streams as we could find. And here's the smoking guns that we believe that President Trump, if he's informed of it, um can use to go after Soros's, uh network of hate in various ways. Uh we traced over $80 million going from the Open Society Foundations to at least 54 groups engaged in crime and domestic terrorism on US soil or that are proterrorism endorsing things like the October 7th attacks or are associated with foreign terrorist organizations or explicitly pro-terror groups. And this is according to his own file, so it's rock solid. Uh, and over of that amount, over 23 million went to at least seven groups that are doing things that meet the FBI's definition of domestic terrorism. >> Can you rioting and things like that? >> Can you be specific, more specific than this? >> Absolutely. Uh, I'm happy to. So, the Center for Third World Organizing, for example, is an organization that has a hub that fused together several uh really extreme organizations. Uh we found $400,000 going to them uh and they openly boast of the fact that they threw down uh during the uprisings in Minnesota. Obviously referring to the rioting and boasting of how many thousands of people they helped train. A lot of these groups have created what they'll call like a protest guide or an activism toolkit and it sounds innocuous. Then you open it up and you'll see support for Hamas in it. But then they'll sometimes slightly say for more information go to these hyperlinks. and you go to the hyperlinks and there'll be guides recommending things like property destruction, uh, violence, false IDs, how to obstruct justice, all of these things. And they know darn well what they're doing. They don't put that there by accident. Um, some of the more careful ones will just direct their readership to anarchist websites with all that material, knowing that they'll see it when it's there. Um, and so yeah, the the I mean, it's really stunning. And some of these groups are coalitions. So when I say 54 groups, just one of those might have 300 entities >> in that one. So it it's actually the real number is actually much higher. >> Let me play something from October 2010. Um where I was talking about the RICO act and George Soros, listen to this. This is the ABCs of revolution. This is only a copy of it. I only have a copy of it. I don't have the original yet. They talk about uh urban gerilla tactics. The instant any any area is occupied by revolutionaries, it must be appropriated forth with according to two incontestable principles, self-defense and free distribution of the goods produced. The best way to avoid isolation is to attack. Thus, one must with an eye to the internationalist direction. Remember, workers of the world unite. Create other nuclei for occupations and appropriations. Strengthen and protect liaison between re revolutionary zones. Isolate the enemy and destroy communications. Use commando tactics uh to harass and uh rear a guard and avoid encirclement by splitting up his forces. Disorganize the counterrevolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategist harmless. Do you have that one? disorganize the counterrevolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategists harmless. How do they do that? Is the left threatening? Is that something that people who are in that position should worry about their lives or is that just render them harmless by well let's just live see if I can come up with a crazy example. You hear some rich dude takes a million dollars and does everything they can to smear and discredit. By the way, George, have you ever heard of the Rico Rico statute? I just Anyway, RICO, this is 2010, 15 years ago, I was saying George Soros should be grabbed by the RICO act. Donald Trump looks like he's now willing to go there. And again, we're talking to Ryan Morrow, who uh says he has the the goods on this. How long have you been working on this, Ryan? >> Probably about a year. >> And what got you started on this? >> Well, I think it started when I released a report breaking down the anti-Israel protests that were going on. I saw that that was like manufactured. It was like pushing a button. And we identified over 150 proterrorism groups organizing those protests. there weren't peaceful groups behind it. Uh and so when that report came out, which is very similar to this one, this is almost almost somewhat of a sequel, one of the radical entities that's Hamas friendly, had this to say about the research that we released. So the same would be true of the source report that we're about to release at 1:00. It said that these reports we're doing pose an existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups by getting their tax exempt statuses ripped away from them. And so those that survive would suffer mass chaos. So they're saying that we have figured out how to beat them if we just get this into the right hands. And so at 1:00, this is what we're dropping about George Soros as part of our investigation. Uh, and that's why I said on your show earlier, the counter offensive begins today. It begins at 1:00. >> You know, um, it was probably 2010 that, um, George Soros's number two guy, met with my number two guy. Um, and they had lunch in a public place because that's what we requested when they said, "We want to have lunch." And uh I was not part of it, but it was just the second in command, if you will, meeting with each other and sending messages and and um it started, this lunch started with um you need to tell your boss, your boss, me is hurting my boss, Soros, and it's going to stop. And my guy said, I don't think it is. I mean, if he's getting something wrong, he'd be more than happy to correct it. And he said at the time, um, your boss needs to understand the ship is already sailed. It's it's just pulling out of port right now, and you're either on that ship or you're not, and you want to be on that ship. And he said, "My boss is going to say he doesn't want to be on that ship." Um, and at the very end of the conversation, he said, "I want you to hear me clearly. This is going to stop. We took that as a very large threat. And that is one of the reasons why I did uh the puppet master show on Fox. I did a three-day special showing everything about uh George Soros that we could find at the time. You realize who you're getting into war with, don't you? I do, and I don't care. Uh I I know I'm supposed to do this. Um, and so that ship that he was talking about, we're going to sink it. And all the other big billionaire funded organizations that are out there that are funding this type of filth that are poisoning American civil society and spreading this type of hate that resulted in what we've what happened a week ago. You're on notice. If you're doing this by mistake, I will volunteer my time to help you vet the organizations that you finance so you don't fund terrorism and hate. If you're genuine, >> well, there's >> if you're not genuine and you continue doing it, you're next. looking at uh you know looking at your research there's there's a handful of grants that are nuts uh for things like children that include uh ideas of hierarchy, supremacy, colonialism and to the Alinski Institute in France which is honor in honor of Solleinsky if I'm not mistaken. Right. >> That's exactly right. Um and when you go through the report you'll see that the organizations that they're funding are so blatantly connected to foreign terrorist organizations so blatantly extremist. This goes on year after year. So before when there would be reports about this and drips and drabs, I could kind of understand some people saying, well, out of thousands of grants, maybe some mistakes are made. This this is no mistake. We've we have disproven this. And I keep thinking about how when the Iranian regime allows proterrorism entities to fund raise on Iranian soil, what do we call that? We call that state sponsorship of terrorism. In the United States, when American nonprofits in the nonprofit sector allow proter terror entities to fund raise on American soil, what do we call it? We call it charity. And so that has to come to an end. The IRS code, as we talked about in the report, is being violated. You're not allowed to engage in crime. You're not even allowed to encourage crime. That can't be part of your nonprofit mission. Uh and so these statuses need to be revoked. And just like that one extremist group said, if we go down that path, we don't even have to get into the hate speech argument. >> Yeah, >> we can beat them. We can beat them rapidly. >> Ryan, thank you so much. I really appreciate your conversation with us back on the Charlie Kirk show in a minute. How many people on earth this last week became a Christian on the killing field? They saw Charlie Kirk and they thought, you know, I wasn't a Christian before, but I think I understand what it means to be a Christian today. Abraham Lincoln said, "I'm not a Christian." Little Abraham Lincoln, 6, 7, 8 years old, he would get in trouble and his dad would get drunk and he would take his belt and he would whip him while quoting the scriptures. Well, there's nothing that makes somebody want to be a Christian more than that. And so, Abraham Lincoln rejected Christianity. And he said later in life, he said, "When I became president, I wasn't really a Christian. When my son died, I wasn't a Christian. I didn't become a Christian until Gettysburg." Gettysburg happened in the summer and we think, "Oh, then Abraham Lincoln went up there right after or he went up a couple of months later after they cleared out all the fields and buried all the dead." He comes in November and they were still stacking bodies up like cordwood. Imagine the scene. Imagine the smell of Gettysburg. He says, "That's when I became a Christian. That event brought him to his knees where he begged the Lord and said, "What is it you want? I'll do it. Just tell me." We were losing the war like crazy. He issues a proclamation and a request for the nation to go into prayer, fasting, and humiliation, meaning asking God for forgiveness for all of our sins. And he basically said, "Whatever God wants, he's just. This was wrong. We did it. Let's pray, fast, and beg for forgiveness. That's how we won. It was the moment of Gettysburg. This may be the moment of Gettysburg in our generation. The number of people who are saying, "I'm committing to Christ. I'm going to church. I'm going to change." It's sweeping the nation. It is sweeping the world. This indeed was a turning point. >> One is one is less conscious than the other. >> Oh, no. one is more skills, but like what's the what's the innate moral difference? And prove it to me. >> Um because we it seems like we do give restrict rights and we do actually change rights based on development and consciousness. >> So like a four-year-old, right? What is the innate moral difference of a four-year-old and a zygote? >> One is more conscious. >> Okay, got it. So I think that's irrelevant. I think they're both human beings deserving of protection. Consciousness alone is not a marker of dignity. >> Okay. So then what is your marker of dignity? Is being a human being. >> Being a human being. So your is your argu argument a little bit circular though there is just like it's just because we are we deserve rights because we're human being. >> Yeah. Of course. I mean it's self-evident. We are human beings with a soul. Therefore we have rights. >> So so we're we deserve rights because we're human beings because we're human beings. So like how am I supposed to win against this argument here? >> You can't >> see. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. So it's it's called it's called a self-evident truth. >> So So >> it's called self-evidence. So there it is. That's why the pro-life position is irrefutable is that because you have to posit human beings have rights. And that's that and that is that a kind of a concern that like we we base all our entire ideology on this one illogical circle that >> it's not illogical. It's incredibly logical. We are human beings and we believe that they matter. >> If you were remove this this circle here then you would have to actually be pro-life in the sense of be pro- life to all life. >> Oh we are >> right. So animals kind of you know we don't believe human beings are >> I'm not like a vegan or anything. I'm not a veget as a bird. It's not the same thing for multiple reasons because a human being has characteristics and qualities and most importantly we believe as Christians human beings have a soul that a bird does not have. >> Okay. So characteristics and qualities >> only let me interrupt one more. The west whether you agree or not sorry to interrupt. We believe the human being is the only thing made in the image of the creator. A mo day. >> Okay. Okay. So when you say characteristics and qualities what does that mean to me? What does that mean to me? Well, first of all, not just the ability to reason, but also the ability to sympathize, empathize, feel, predict, plan, conjecture, have mercy, forgiveness, to be able to be introspective. >> I love that. I love that about us human beings. >> Oh, no. I know. >> I'm not being sarcastic. We human beings are exceptional actually. I mean, versus the the beasts of the wild, which we should appreciate and adore. But again, more beyond that, we come after this from a soft religious view because you don't have to be Christian to believe this, right? that the human being has innate inherent >> um embedded let's just say dignity okay that a fox does not. >> Right. Yeah. So what you just did there is kind of like my argument here. You're you're you're saying [Music] This is the Charlie Kirk show. My name is Glenn Beck. Um we have something um special that we made for Charlie and uh the staff here at TPUSA coming up in just a minute. I haven't even heard it. Um my daughter who is 19 years old uh made it with David Osmond last night. Um and uh she was there um about 10 ft away from the tent when Charlie um was shot. And we'll tell you a little bit about this um next hour. >> Glenn, talk to me about the path forward from here because I think a lot of people right now have that moment where they're so thankful for everything that Charlie had done and and appreciated his approach to everything, this open approach, open debate. um and they want to continue that approach. I do think there's also a lot of people who look at it and say for everything that Charlie tried to do, look at what's the price he paid. And we can't just do that anymore. We have to go farther. We have to change this. We have to there's a there's a righteous anger that people want to uh to to move upon. >> The righteous anger. So the righteous anger that is righteous and right and natural. I mean it is one of the phases of grief. Um and we went through the phase first phase you know day one denial. I mean we saw the video. >> I did unfortunately I saw the video and I called a surgeon friend of mine right away and I sent him the video and I said is there any way? And he's like no then no way. No way. Um, and yet for two hours I was on the air with Megan Kelly and I was saying, "Well, no, there there's there's there's a chance. There's a chance." Because I wanted to believe that anger is part of that. Um, and we're going to go through it. But I have been so amazed and so proud of our side. I I'm going to tell you next hour of a private conversation that I had with Charlie about assassinations. Um, >> and uh, and and so far everybody is handling it exactly the way he would have hoped and I know it to be true because I talked to him about it. Well, certainly not everybody is handling it the right way. I It's funny because I was I had a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and we were talking about the reaction to all of this >> and the we kind of said, "Are you encouraged by what you're seeing or are are you despondent?" >> I'm very encouraged. >> That's it's fascinating. My my instant reaction was despondent >> because I I I don't know. Maybe I've tortured myself with too much of the negative reaction. >> Maybe. >> However, talking it out, >> I think I've I've changed my mind on it. >> Look how many people have gone to church for the first time. See, this is the difference. Charlie wasn't just a political guy. Charlie was an evangelical preacher in the end. >> Um, and he was talking about universal things and things that people are starving for. And look at the real look at the God movement that is happening. He shortcircuited a lot of stuff and now God is moving with his people. And I find that extraordinarily optimistic. I I think what we have to be careful of is, you know, I worry I'll start to worry about the people of TPUSA. Hey, I mean, we've already been praying for you, but I'm going to start worrying about you next week and the week after because I've had enough people in my life die. Once company goes home, then you're left alone with the reality. >> And that's when that that despair or hopelessness can start to play games with you. Don't let it I mean, there is I know what I'll tell you in a minute. I know what Charlie would have wanted. And what he would have wanted was move forward, keep moving, keep pressing forward, keep staying true to the principles that we have laid out. Um, and that's the only thing I worry about on our side is if anybody gets angry um, and somebody's going to do something stupid. And I hope that doesn't happen. I pray that doesn't happen. I don't think it will quite honestly, but I could be wrong. Um, but if we have real discipline and then constitutional discipline, >> you know, this hate speech debate, Charlie wouldn't have been for that ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. >> I didn't know that. He tweeted explicitly about it. >> There hate speech. There is no such thing as hate speech. There is speech. There's uncomfortable speech. There's evil speech. There's bad speech. There's speech you don't like at all. There's speech you would just want to say to somebody, shut up. But there's no such thing as hate speech. There is no legal position for in this country. The only kind of speech that requires protection is the kind of speech that everybody hates. So there is no place for hate speech. And it bothers me this Pam Bondi movement uh of going after people with hate speech. No, we don't do that. You have a right to speak and I will fight to my dying breath for your right to say what you believe. I don't I don't necessarily agree with you, but it's more important for me to fight for your right of freedom of speech if I don't agree with you. I don't need to fight for freedom of speech that agrees with me. All right, next hour, uh, a tribute again to Charlie Kirk and so much more. you led the Tea Party movement in in 2011. Those are my words, not yours. >> Okay. >> So, 2010, 2011, you were a big part of it and you were um you were a vocal piece of it. And President Trump in a lot of different ways has led the revitalization has had given a lot of Americans hope that they thought that this this country could not be turned around. >> You know what's really strange? He has the same thing that Tulsi Gabbard has and they don't agree on anything >> basically anything. >> You know what I mean? But Tulsi is a she's so far out of the mainstream and she is so far left. But at no time do I believe she hates America. I believe she loves America. We just disagree. Yes. >> And what used to bring us together is that we can disagree, but we have a fundamental understanding that this country is a positive force and you can make it. Well, I have I have a working theory about this. This is why Bernie Sanders has a has a group that really appreciates him and follows him and why even some people on the right will say, "Oh, I I like I I don't like Bernie Sanders, but I think he really believes what he believes." I think the new era of politics in the bipartisan cartel that has ruined this, you know, ruling class essentially, >> you know, very series of destructive policies that have borrowed too much money and eroded our freedoms and liberties and grew the fourth branch of government. I think the American people would much prefer someone who's authentic, who says why they believe what they believe. Like that conversation you had with the president on trade, even if you might fundamentally disagree with tariffs, you say, "I'll deal with that way more than an establishment Republican in a heartbeat." >> I made argument after argument >> and he tried to dismantle and I but wait a minute, Mr. President, this blah blah blah. And in the end, he said, "I'm just going to shoot straight with you. I love them. I love trade barriers. I love the fact that we can get things >> from people if we just use our muscle a little bit. I fundamentally disagree, but I hung up the phone going, "At least you told me the truth." >> Yes. >> He was not pandering to me. >> Well, and that's clarity over agreement. >> Yes. >> Which and or the false agreement that the the the bipartisan coalition that has really, like I said, ruined our country in so many ways. Not completely, but I find the American people have this this yearning and this interest, especially young people, for authenticity in our candidates, and that's been deteriorating. So, I have a question for you, >> okay? >> In 10 years, do you think America will be more or less socialist? >> I ask this question of everybody, by the way. >> Can I answer with a caveat? Of course. If uh we continue the spending and if we continue the erosion of of who we are and the truth, we will be much more socialist. If we if we have this a real collapse, an actual depression, people who right now say, "I am absolutely against socialism." they will want it to be able to weather that storm. >> Um, uh, and I'm afraid that we're on that track. However, I've been really heartened. I mean, Charlie, I don't think you know the impact. You say, "Oh, Glenn, you made an impact on my life." Do you realize the impact you're having on the country? >> I don't. >> I mean, the your organization didn't exist 5 years ago. It didn't exist. Tonight, I'm talking to 5,000 people and I in in this place had paid to come across the country. I was on a plane with all kinds of 18 to 24 year olds yesterday and I realized the people you have. You remember when I did the thing in Washington DC and restoring honor? >> I do. Right. Right on the Washington Monument. >> Right. And I said that that day, yeah, somewhere in this crowd, >> there is maybe he's seven, maybe he's 15. >> I saw that speech. >> Yeah. Somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington that will feel it right now. And I am so overwhelmed with the people that I have met from your organization and the people who are coming. You're raising the next generation. you are you and your organization. >> Thank you. >> Really responsible for um what I think will be the next great generation, but also some real sucky ones are going to come out of this group, too. You know, >> go. If I gave you $500 right now, >> would you would you would you say it? >> No. >> What's stopping you? >> I mean, >> what's stopping you? What line in the Bible is going to stop to you going up to a group of guys going, "Hey fellas, mind if I say a word? Mind if I speak my piece?" >> No. Cuz I have a different set of morals. I say, "By what moral is that wrong?" >> By morals of around, find out. I'm going to get my jumped. I will get the out of me. This presumptuous. I don't know about you, but any kind of any kind of argument that there's an objective morality that depends. >> Was was Hitler objectively evil? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we agree. >> Amount of cells. Amount of cells gone. Biomass. That's kind of >> So, wait. So, does someone who is older have more moral rights than a four-year-old because they have more cells? >> Depends on the person. >> Okay. Listen, Mike makes right, right? I got more inches on that guy. I could probably jump him. I mean, like, if Listen, not to start a fight, not to start a fight. I have no offense. I didn't even point at a person, but did I point at you? I'm sorry if I did. I would. No, I'd lose against him. If I was pointing at him, I would lose. But, okay, here's what I actually want to talk about. Okay, we've gone a little sidetracked. That was my preamble. Hey, listen, listen, listen. All right. I want to talk to you about DEI, right? Cuz I have a feeling that I I'm a white man, right? You are. I would say I am. Right. I would say I'm a white guy. I may be entirely Chinese, but what even is a white guy, right? Throughout history, right? Irish people and Polish people were not considered white people. Then you're going to say in 17 blah blah blah blah blah, they technically were counted. Right now, you look at the books, Arabic people are called >> What's the question? We got a long line. >> Do you disagree with the fact that I'm white? >> I mean, look, I don't know what you are. You don't look very white to me, but I mean, like, not >> You don't look very white to me either. I mean, >> I'm like the whitest person, right? I'm a phronologist. I'm paler than you are. Look at me. Okay, great. Look at me. Okay, so >> I don't think there's a physical objective quality that defines being a white guy, I think. Right. Cuz if you look at the book, it's not a country of origin. There's no country of origin for white people. It's like saying Asian people. >> Caucasian is the better term. But >> well, I would prefer not all the time, but yeah. >> Well, all right. Then what's the problem with like let's say a Mexican? >> There's no problem. >> There's no problem with Mexicans. Then what what was your beef against Kilar Brio Garcia? He was in court for different reasons. And then by >> What's my beef with a wifebeating child abusing gang member here illegally? >> I don't know. The fact that he's a wife beating, childabusing gang member here illegally. That's my beef with him. And he's from El Salvador, not Mexico. Racist. Get that right. >> Oh, my bad. My bad. My bad. Who's doing it now, dude? Hey. Hey. Wait. >> All right. Thank you very much. Next. Thank you. >> All right. One last thing. Anyone want this hat? >> Take that. Get off my campus. >> No. and I'll be here for another hour and a half. [Applause] >> He's going to go and tell his friends I own Charlie Kirk. >> He probably is, man. He probably is. Hey, >> you're very you're a eager beaver. >> I am, man, because I I have a midterm soon, but I want to talk to you real quick because honestly, man, I I'm a moderate, so I disagree with you on a lot of issues, but I also agree with you on a lot of issues, and I'm so glad you've come to this campus. And so I want to say welcome to this campus, man. Welcome to this campus. Thank you for educating everybody. But one thing that we don't talk about often, uh, especially as Republicans, and again, I'm a moderate sometimes. This past election, I was Republican, but we don't talk about social mobility a lot. We don't talk about like the jet the debt to GDP ratio. Trump his uh tax cuts and jobs plan, man, it it's really like it's not decreasing our deficit at all. And we're at the highest rates we've ever been at since World War II. We're literally going to surpass, you know, 100% debt to GB GDP ratio. And there's no plan. At least under the at least under the Obama plan, we were going to raise like $650 billion over the next 10 years, which I know isn't enough, but I mean, come on. We've got to do something about that. And like, what's what's the deal with that? >> We need more spending cuts. I mean, we don't know yet what the plan is going to look like, but I hope we have spending cuts across the board. I mean, I agree with you. We need to balance our budget. It's a major threat to our country. >> Well, the big thing is too, man, I mean, I'm obviously I'm an older student, right? I'm I'm clearly not 19 anymore. Or at least I, you know, maybe you think so, but whatever. I It took me a while to get here, man. It took me a while. [Music] [Music] This is the Charlie Kirk show. My name is Glenn Beck. I am filling in for uh Charlie. And um I want to tell you something that Charlie and I spoke about um I have been saying for a while now because I've been tracking this since really 2004 2005 I've been tracking this slide into Marxism and communism, socialism, radicalism um and um and I studied revolution all over the world to see how does it happen and play cut 353. This is May of 2024. Listen to this. You and I both know, and I I hate to even address stuff like this, but you and I both know there are those people, and I don't know who they are, and I don't know how many there are, but there are those people that hate Donald Trump so much because they will destroy because he will destroy their plans for a new world order. They will they would at least consider an actual assassination if this doesn't work. Uh, and that's terrifying thing that I think for um that we were going to go into a period of assassination. When I talked about assassinating the president or attempted assassination of the president, I was always very hesitant um because I just always want to be very very careful on what you say um about a president or a candidate. Um, but I knew they were coming because that's what happened in the 1960s and everything had been repeated and and Charlie and I on one one day, maybe 2018 or 2019, I can't remember. Um, he said, "What's coming next?" And we were on this balcony in Miami and it was just the two of us and we had a really amazing conversation about what was what what our responsibilities were and what we had to look out for. And he said, "What is coming next?" And I said, "Charlie, assassinations." And I he said, "How do you see that?" And I said, "Well, Donald Trump is probably the biggest target, but I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, last time in the 60s, it was Malcolm X, it was RFK, and it was MLK. And there were three of them. And um with an exception of RFK, they were just they were people that were, you know, in the arena, if you will. And so Charlie and I talked about, you know, what do we what do we do if that starts happening? And that's why I am so happy to see the way people that knew Charlie, loved Charlie, worked with Charlie, uh were part of TPUSA, were just fans of Charlie. I think everybody felt like they knew him because he was so personal. But um the way everybody is reacting, I wanted to uh play something um that I have not even heard yet myself. This is something that um was written by David Osmond because I knew these times were coming in probably 2018 is when um this song was first written for these days. Um and here we are. And last night, my my daughter uh Cheyenne, who was about 10 ft away from the tent in Utah uh last week, thank God. She turned her head and turned around cuz she was hearing people screaming at Charlie and she thought, "What are these idiots saying?" And she turned around and that's when she said she heard what she thought was a firecracker. And by the time she turned back to look at Charlie, she was pushed to the ground. So, she didn't, thank God, um, see it um, firsthand. Um, last night, she and David Osman went into the studio to record this in honor of Charlie Kirk. [Music] I know we don't see everything in the same way, >> but I know We won't be really free if we don't stay united. >> We will fall for anything. It's true. So I have decided I will stand for you and I will I will make your stand. I will raise my voice. I will hold your hand cuz we are one. I will beat my drum. I have made my choice. We will overcome cuz we are one. [Music] So there's no way. >> The best days are behind so wide. And you will find the times when the best men defend every friend, neighbor, countrymen. But now there's nowhere where you can speak your mind. But I will. I will make a stand. I will raise my voice. I will hold your hand cuz we are one. I will beat my drum. I have made my choice. We will overcome cuz we are one. Times may change but truth remains. We won't be silenced, won't be changed. >> Cuz injustice anywhere, friends, justice everywhere. I will make it stand. I will raise my voice. I will hold your hand. Cuz we are one. >> I will beat my drum. I have made my choice. We will overcome. Cuz we are one. I will make a stand. I will raise my heart. I will hold your hand. Cuz we are one. I will be my choice. We will overcome. Cuz we are [Music] we are one. when uh that song I asked David to write that song. Um I never thought it would be sung by my daughter for Charlie Kirk. It's amazing how the Lord works. That song is so appropriate for Charlie because that's what he was doing. Standing up for your right to speak. Standing up for your right to be you. Standing shouldertosh shoulder and being united. And I think that's why this is taking America and the world by storm. I think it's why we reuniting with people in South Korea and England and Kentucky and Tennessee and even California and New York because there's some basic principles and some basic truths that Charlie stood for and the Lord is bringing us back to those. Back in just a minute, more on the Charlie Kirk show. [Music] Today I I'm going to try to say this without tearing up. I spent my first day in church in many years. >> So tomorrow morning is my first time to go to church in many years. >> We went to church today. It was the first time in 20 years. The first time for our children. I don't come from any kind of money and I've never owned a suit before. >> Dave went to church for their first time in a really long time and it was so powerful. So many people. It was beautiful. Beautiful service and uh I think we're going to keep going. >> I didn't know Charlie Kirk. Never met that guy before in my life. And something else that I've never done before in my life is believe in God. I'm going to wear this suit to church. I'm going to go to church. I'm going to try to be a better father, husband, and leader for my family. [Music] But what happened to Charlie Kirk made me angry and sad all at the same time. But at that time, it made me feel like I was missing something that I never realized I was missing. >> We are raising three boys that will one day be men. And we want those boys to be as strong in their convictions as Charlie Kirk was. You don't think it's crazy to get in church? >> Here's the line for the second service. And there's never a line, by the way. There's never a line. >> Okay. Thank you. So, if you are someone also that went to church for the first time ever or for the first time in a very long time today, I am with you and I'm so proud of you for being bold enough to go do that or to just take a stance and say this is [Music] I mean, I I came here specifically to take advantage of it because I can see the system here and it, you know, I I mean, just saying it works for people who actually use it. So, I think I I just think we should >> All right. Thank you very much. Thanks for your time. >> All right. Yes. >> Is that a SpaceX shirt? >> Looks like it. Yeah. >> Hey, Charlie. Uh, thank you for everything you do. You're one of the reasons I started going to the church this year. Uh my first [Applause] my first question is with the population crisis going on, how can abortion not be justified when the baby will not be able to reproduce such as a baby with Down syndrome defend your abortion stance if the result will be less humans in the following generation. >> Okay. So you are you asking me as a hypothetical or are you can you can you restate that please? So with the population crisis going on >> collapse. Yeah. >> Collapse. Exactly. Uh how can abortion not be justified when the baby like such as someone who has Down syndrome will not be able to reproduce for the following generation? >> Oh yeah. I mean look Oh, you're talking about abortion for Down syndrome >> or or anyone who will not a down syndrome baby has dignity regardless of its capacity to not produce. If you find out that I mean do people that have infertility problems, do they not get human rights? Right. I mean, so if someone can't reproduce, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to live. >> Got it. Um, next question is, uh, with the rise in Bible sales and church attendance, as someone who didn't grow up with religious, uh, religion, what advice would you give to someone who's trying to welcome religion into their life and find their faith? >> I love that question. Read your Bible every single day. Um, fight your flesh. Your flesh is going to want to do easy and immediate things like drink and go out and do stuff. Find difficult and hard stuff and aim find your aim as a as a man and point everything you can towards it and spread the good news of God and Jesus Christ in every possible way that you can and put Jesus fi