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Glenn Greenwald and Analysis on Political Violence, Reactions, and the Dangers of Reactionary Totalitarianism
Glenn Greenwald examines the public response to political violence and the dangerous precedents being set by both sides of the political spectrum. From those justifying violence based on political beliefs to right-wing calls for sweeping crackdowns on entire political factions, Greenwald warns against the impulses that erode civil liberties. Drawing parallels to post-9/11 overreach and COINTELPRO abuses, this analysis challenges Americans to maintain narrow standards for justified violence and resist the totalitarian temptations that exploit tragedy for political gain.
The Dangerous Game of Justifying Political Violence
Glenn Greenwald addresses the vile responses circulating in the wake of political violence, warning Americans about the dangerous precedent of justifying murder based on political views. The discussion centers on how taking just a tiny sliver of someone's existence - their political views - and using that to justify or applaud their death represents a treacherous path for any society.
Greenwald calls out the evil of celebrating or rationalizing violence against political figures, regardless of how strongly one disagrees with their positions. He emphasizes that open discourse and debate, even when differences are vehement and strongly felt, remains the only legitimate way to resolve political disagreements in a free society.
Media Figures Blame the Victim
Perhaps most disturbing were comments from media personalities essentially blaming the victim for violence committed against them. An MSNBC segment featured Matthew Dowd suggesting that someone who is divisive and pushes what he calls "hate speech" creates an environment where "hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to hateful actions."
This type of rhetoric, delivered without any knowledge of the shooter's motives or ideology, reveals what Greenwald describes as a "dark soul." The implication that certain political speech justifies violence against the speaker represents a fundamental rejection of First Amendment principles and democratic norms.
Many responses focused on pro-Israel positions and support for Israeli military actions in Gaza as somehow justifying violence. Greenwald acknowledges his own disagreements on these issues but firmly rejects the notion that political advocacy - no matter how misguided - justifies assassination or murder.
The Slippery Slope of Political Justifications
Greenwald tackles the argument that supporting certain government policies, particularly regarding conflicts like Gaza, somehow makes someone a legitimate target for violence. He draws a critical distinction: political advocates and commentators are not heads of state, military commanders, or soldiers carrying out orders. They are citizens exercising their right to political speech.
The danger of expanding justifications for political violence becomes clear when you consider that by such standards, roughly 40% of Americans might "deserve" violence because of their beliefs on controversial issues like transgender policies, foreign wars, or other hot-button topics. Once you start down that road, there is no logical stopping point.
Greenwald emphasizes the human cost beyond the political figure themselves - families destroyed, children robbed of parents, lives cut short before they've fully formed. He notes that many prominent figures, including Tucker Carlson, held dramatically different political views at age 31 than they do now. People evolve, learn, and change - but assassination eliminates any possibility of that growth.
Right-Wing Calls for Totalitarian Crackdowns
Equally troubling to Greenwald are the reactionary responses from some on the right calling for sweeping government crackdowns on entire political factions. Christopher Rufo invoked J. Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO operations, calling for infiltration, disruption, arrests, and incarceration of those "responsible for this chaos" - painting with an impossibly broad brush that implicates entire ideological movements.
This represents a dangerous amnesia about the abuses of COINTELPRO, which targeted civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr., anti-war activists, and various political groups. The FBI's surveillance and harassment operations, including attempts to convince King to commit suicide, stand as a dark chapter in American history that should never be repeated.
Laura Loomer's call to "shut down, defund, and prosecute every single leftist organization" and declaration that "the left is a national security threat" exemplifies the totalitarian impulse that tragedy can unleash. Such rhetoric seeks to criminalize entire political movements and establish a one-party state apparatus.
The Lessons of 9/11 and Historical Overreach
The analysis draws important parallels to post-9/11 America, when emotional responses to tragedy led to the Patriot Act, mass surveillance, TSA searches that routinely violate Fourth Amendment protections, FISA courts that bypass due process, and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. These sweeping changes to American law and governance were sold as necessary responses to terrorism but ultimately curtailed the civil liberties of all Americans.
The same pattern emerges whenever crisis strikes: Ruby Ridge, Waco, January 6th prosecutions, COVID-era restrictions on religious gatherings and businesses. Each time, government power expands under emergency pretexts, and those powers are never voluntarily relinquished. Worse, they eventually get weaponized against the very groups that initially supported them once political power changes hands.
The conservative movement spent years decrying the politicization of the FBI and deep state interference in domestic politics. The irony of now calling for those same institutions to be weaponized against political opponents should not be lost on anyone paying attention.
Why Political Assassinations Backfire
History demonstrates that political assassinations typically backfire on those who carry them out or celebrate them. Julius Caesar's assassination by senators hoping to restore the Roman Republic instead triggered civil war and led to Augustus taking even more power than Caesar had held. John Wilkes Booth's assassination of Abraham Lincoln, rather than striking a blow against tyranny, created a martyr and elevated Lincoln to near-religious status in American civil religion.
These examples illustrate that violence against political figures rarely achieves its intended goals. Instead, it often strengthens the movements those figures represented, creates martyrs whose legacies become untouchable, and provides justification for the very authoritarian responses that erode freedom for everyone.
Maintaining Narrow Standards for Justified Violence
Greenwald argues for maintaining extremely narrow standards for when political violence might be justified - essentially limiting it to defense against immediate physical threats or genuine tyrannical government action. Expanding those standards to include people with disagreeable political views, no matter how strongly held those disagreements might be, opens the door to endless cycles of violence and retaliation.
The standard cannot be that people whose political advocacy you find morally reprehensible deserve death. By that measure, virtually everyone becomes a potential target depending on who's making the judgment. Such a standard makes civil society impossible and guarantees perpetual conflict.
All humans are products of their social and cultural influences, shaped by propaganda and the particular information environments they inhabit. While some public figures may merit strong condemnation for their actions and advocacy, the number who actually deserve violent death is vanishingly small - essentially limited to those actively engaged in violence themselves.
The Path Forward
The message ultimately calls for Americans to resist their worst impulses in moments of tragedy and political violence. Rather than seeking vengeance against entire political movements, rather than justifying violence based on political disagreements, and rather than abandoning constitutional protections in pursuit of security, citizens must recommit to the principles that make free society possible.
That means protecting free speech even for those whose views you find abhorrent. It means maintaining due process protections even for your political enemies. It means rejecting calls for political repression regardless of which party holds power. And it means recognizing that the tools of state oppression you build today will eventually be turned against you tomorrow.
The alternative - embracing reactionary totalitarianism from either the right or left - leads only to escalating cycles of violence, eroding freedoms, and the ultimate destruction of the democratic republic. As painful as it may be in moments of tragedy, maintaining principles matters more than satisfying the immediate desire for retribution.
Video Transcript
to just take a tiny little sliver of
someone's existence and identity, namely
their political views, and then justify
and applaud their death. And you can see
huge numbers of people doing that all
over the place. It's a very dangerous
game to start playing when you start
justifying
the
murder of people because of their
political views.
>> Glenn Greenwald called today's murder of
Charlie Kirk an evil atrocity that
should be rejected by all Americans. And
in this clip, he gets into some of the
most vile responses to this act. Why
political violence is never a good
answer, not only for the victims, but
also for the political climate, but also
why some of the right-wing answers are
not a path that we want to tread. Let's
get his take on this. Please like the
video and subscribe to the channel.
Charlie Kirk was murdered today at the
age of 31. He was doing what in many
regards made him prominent and
wellknown. He was at an event at a
college inviting young people, not just
those who agreed with him, but those who
disagreed with him. That was the point
of all these events, to come and have
dialogue
and to have him speak, but then have him
take questions, especially from people
who disagreed with him and answer. And
although sometimes it was a bit rockous,
he was, I would say, unfailingly civil
in what these events were. And you could
say that these kind of events are the
model of how our politics should
function. Namely, that we should have
open discourse.
And even if the differences are
vehement, even if they're very uh
strongly felt, that the only real way to
resolve these kind of differences is
through the kind of open debate that
Charlie Kirk has encouraged and has
spent most of his adult life pursuing as
a way of organizing and reaching young
students who might have otherwise been
politically disaffected or alienated.
>> Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, this is
the natural discourse that we should
have, not shouting each other down,
actually having debates, having them
public and actually sharing the stage
rather than trying to shut them down. If
you're going to shut them down, do it
verbally where your arguments can be
answered. That's what Charlie Kirk dur
did during lots of his career, whether
or not you agreed with him or not. And
both me and Glenn did disagree with him
on some tangible things, but that's the
truth. And, you know, he sought out to
win on the debate stage. There was all
kinds of discourse, as you might
imagine, that emerged. I'm not talking
about from random people online. I'm
talking about from people with a
prominent platform.
And some of it was basically justifying
what happened to Charlie Kirk, saying
that he's a hatemonger. He advocates
wars, including defending the Israeli
war in Gaza. He has denounced trans
people
and so he's full of hate, said this
theory and therefore got what he
deserved like it was some kind of karmic
justice or just that we should celebrate
when people who have political
differences with us die or are murdered
or are killed. There's an MSNBC segment
I believe we have this which is quite
remarkable. I want you to listen to what
he said. This was before it was known
that Charlie had died, but when it was
known that he was shot in obviously an
extremely serious and grave event. And
this is what Matthew Dow went on MSNBC
to to say. But following up what what
was just said, he's been one of the most
divisive, especially divisive younger
figures in this who is constantly sort
of pushing this sort of hate speech or
sort of aimed at certain groups. And I
always go back to hateful thoughts lead
to hateful words which then lead to
hateful actions. And I think that's the
environment we're in that that people
just you can't stop with these sort of
awful thoughts you have and then saying
these awful words and not expect awful
actions to take place. So that was
essentially not justifying this shooting
but blaming blaming Charlie Kirk for his
own shooting. essentially saying that he
spreads hate and hatred when he spread
it like Charlie Kirk did.
>> Yeah, get that. That is almost basically
justifying what happened to him, the
murder of this guy before any of the
motives were known that he's going to
talk about this so flippantly and openly
about that. And if that's your standard,
that's a pretty mainstream view among
Americans. By the way, does that mean
something like I don't I don't know the
exact, you know, numbers here, but does
that mean something like 40% Americans
deserve to die because of their beliefs
about transgender issues or the hate
speech that they call And by hate
speech, by the way, let's just be real
about what they mean by that. That's
just things they disagree with that they
call hate speech or disinformation or,
you know, conspiracy theories. Those are
the buzzwords they use to try to shut
down conversations. the conversations
that Charlie Kirk, despite my
differences with him, was trying to have
with people even that were adversarial
ideologically to him. And he deserves
that. That's just the natural result of
this discourse. Well, that's the kind of
discourse we should have. We shouldn't
just have propaganda wallto-wall on one
side of every issue forced down the
throats of Americans because we saw how
that happened when the liberal
establishment had control. Now we're
seeing how that's happening when the
conservative establishment have has
control. It's a debacle and it's not
right. And to justify this is insane.
Leads to hatred coming back or to a
hateful environment with violence and
the like.
And he again he said that without having
any idea who the shooter was,
what motivated the shooter.
>> Yeah.
>> What ideology he had, what cause he had,
whether he had a cause.
And I find that just so despicable. Like
it really takes a dark soul to react
that way. And this is what I want to
address. So there's a lot of other
claims like that circulating. A lot of
them focused on the fact that Charlie
Kirk defended the Israeli assault on
Gaza. He's also had some moments where
he's diverged from the strong pro-Israel
position, including questioning why the
United States has to pay for that and
the like. But overall, he was a defender
of of Israel, including its war in Gaza.
Benjamin Netanyahu just moments ago
posted a tweet lamenting his death and
saying what a great friend he was to
Israel, how he talked to him about
coming to Israel in a couple weeks.
Yeah, he was he was a fierce pro-Zionist
in terms of doubling down on Israel's
duplicitous acts if you ask me. That's
something I had a problem with him on.
Glenn Greenwald obviously does. And
guess what? His murder is still wrong.
It's still a vile, reprehensible act
with literally no justification. And
guess what? I promise I would say that
if someone on the left of his stature
was assassinated like this in public,
robbing his family of a father and a
loved one and a husband like that. It's
just insane to believe that this could
any way be justified by his beliefs when
he's not even in control of a
government. He has political influence
obviously, but that doesn't justify
murder. It never does. Beliefs that
aren't aggressive. They don't rob from
others, you know, their standing in
terms of unless you, you know, are
attacking someone to the point that you
believe your life is in danger. You
don't have the right to kill anyone. And
guess what? I apply that standard to
government, too, and to Gaza,
ironically. So,
>> and so there a lot of people saying,
look, he basically endorses a genocide
every day in Gaza. There are uh innocent
people being shot in the head, in the
neck. There's lots of reports about IDF
soldiers sniping kids in the head and
the neck. Lots of reports from Western
doctors about this practice, people
being blown up and starved to death. We
know the whole litany. because he
supports that and that's something so
terrible that we shouldn't mourn his
death or at the very least we should be
indifferent to it. So I think that it's
a very dangerous game to start playing
when you start justifying
the murder of people because of their
political views inflicts all kinds of
psychological suffering and death on
huge numbers of innocent people.
So that you can't say Charlie Kirk did
that. Charlie Kirk isn't the head of an
army. He's not the head of a country.
There you see his daughter running over
to him. I don't know if we have sound.
>> Let me start again.
>> All right. So, this is a video that
people put together of of Charlie with
his wife and and children. So,
>> yeah, just think about that. Those two
children are robbed of their father. He
was robbed of his life and his children
were robbed of their innocence through
this. It's just unjustifiable. I don't
care what his viewpoint toward Gaza was.
It differs from mine, but this was a
vile atrocity. And it'd be the same kind
of vile atrocity if they objected to the
genocide in Gaza, if you ask me. It's
just horrendous. It just breaks my heart
thinking about this and how those two
young children now have to have their
innocence in their entire lives turned
upside down by this reprehensible
villain that killed this guy in cold
blood when he was having discourse with
people some of which didn't agree with
him. God forbid it. He set out to win
the debate on an equal stage in with
which both parties could make arguments
and that he still got killed. And we
don't know all the details about his
shooter yet or the motivations, but it's
pretty safe to say it's probably because
of what he believed, what he stood for,
that has to be true.
if you're somebody who's cheering it or
justifying it because he has a different
opinion than you on trans issues or even
something as obviously important to me
as what I regard as the genocide in in
Gaza. And I do think advocating for that
genocide or defending it is a mark
against someone's character to put it
mildly.
I I still don't think that especially
this is not Benjamin Netanyahu.
This is not
Ben Gavir or a soldier in the IDF or a
general in the IDF who are all valid
targets.
>> Yeah, exactly right. I mean ultimately I
do defer to the Jeffersonian mind frame
that when government is tyrannical it is
the right of the people to alter or
abolish it you know through violent
revolution if that's what it takes. But
Charlie Kirk was not in control of a
government. He did have friends in
government. He did inspire political
movements and young people to speak out
and take stances on controversial issues
sometimes, but his death can't be
justifiable
along the lines of, well, you know, we
had the right to kill him because of
what he believed. What he believed was
so sinister that he just deserves to
die. Well, that's a pretty hard standard
that honestly no one could meet. You
know, if it was any anyone in the world
would have that kind of mentality toward
a different political faction, then
we're just asking for allout war. We're
just asking for allout strife. It
doesn't behoove a society to embrace
that whatsoever.
And I think it is important to maintain
an extremely narrow range of when
violence is justified, political
violence is justified, not to expand
that. Seems like it's just expanded
beyond any recognition. Basically, like
anytime anybody who has a different
political view of yours than yours on
important issue, it means that we
celebrate their death. And what you're
also celebrating is the
grief and the agony of those two little
kids and his wife and the loss of a
human life at the age of 31. Yeah,
exactly right. I wouldn't even celebrate
the death of John McCain. And I think
there were very few people as villainous
as he was in terms of US government and
US foreign policy responsible for
multitudes of deaths and influencing
those deaths. But I wouldn't even
celebrate that. It's vile. And Glenn is
right. And guess what? Charlie Kirk was
31. I'm 42. I was a different guy even
when I was 31, but certainly was a
different guy when I was 18. And Charlie
Kirk was a smart guy. I don't agree with
him with a lot of things, especially his
attitude toward Israel. But at the same
time, when you kill someone like this,
you shut down any type of redemption arc
that we know many humans experience. You
know, Christians believed that Paul, who
used to be Saul, persecuted Christians,
you know, to their deaths. But then he
was called to follow the Lord and follow
Jesus. And I'm not comparing anyone to
this in the contemporary sense, but I
think there's an important lesson there.
But lots of us were vile pro-Israel,
pro- neocon, pro- US empire stooges
before getting won over by anti-war
dissident and the non-interventionist
movement. And we did have a redemptive
arc for that. I was a neocon. I'll admit
that. But I changed. And Charlie, for
all we know, could have changed. He was
a smart guy. You know, conservatism is
peeling away to some extent the United
States from Israel. For all we know,
that could have happened to him. but he
got robbed of his life. So now we'll
never know.
>> And someone at the age of 31 is so
unformed. They're kind of in the heading
into the prime or peak of their life.
But let's remember that Tucker Carlson
when he was 31
>> Yeah.
>> was a completely totally different
person.
>> Yeah.
>> Politically at least I'd say personally
as well than what he is now.
>> Yeah. He often apologizes and said he's
doing a penance for being a neocon.
That's the attitude I have too. I know
that there's viewers watching this that
have that viewpoint. Not all of us were
born a non-interventionist dissident or
anti-war activist or anti-sionist. We
were propagandized. Charlie probably was
too. It wasn't probably, he was. He
could have turned away from that. But
now we'll never know. Now the world is
deprived from a guy that was very
talented, very skilled, and very
influential on the right.
>> And you don't know why somebody has
certain views. I mean, I there was a
time in my life when I was a lot younger
where I did actually hate people who
held certain views that I on the that on
the issues I cared about most where I
really personally hated them. And then
at some point, I came to understand that
all of us are the byproduct of our
social and cultural influences. We're
all the byproduct of propaganda
and all kinds of ways that we see the
world.
And although I do think certain people
in public life merit hatred, the number
of people who do is pretty small to just
take a tiny little sliver of someone's
existence and identity, namely their
political views,
and then ju justify and applaud their
death. And you can see huge numbers of
people doing that all over the place.
And I want to I'm going to give you some
examples.
>> Yeah. I hate to say I've seen this all
over Twitter, too, by both sides of the
aisle, by the way. By people like AOC
calling for gun control right away in
the same tweet, she talks about this,
trying to exploit this murder just for
pushing the gun control. That's the sole
purpose she talked about it. And then I
see right-wingers, you know, endorsing
full-scale reactionary right-wing
totalitarianism as a response, shutting
down the left, outlawing the left or
oppositional parties in general. And
both sides are hurling abhorrent
responses toward this in many regards,
not universally, but I've seen a lot of
it. And I will give some license to some
of these people because some of these
people knew Charlie Kirk personally
and
are enraged and disgusted and emotional
about watching
a 31-year-old man just have his life
extinguished in a heartbeat with a
bullet to his neck while he's speaking
on a college campus. Something that we
actually encourage people to do and want
people to do.
>> And by the way, don't watch the video if
you're squeamish. I watched it. I'm not
particularly squeamish, but it was
pretty rough, pretty gruesome, and you
know, I know a lot of people stumbled
upon this inadvertently, and that's too
bad because it really is gruesome.
>> So, I I understand that, but if you're
going to speak publicly on a certain
issue, I think you have the
responsibility to make sure that you
have your emotions under control. So,
while I give a little bit of license, I
don't think that's an excuse for some of
the these kinds of attempts to really
jin up hatred and repression in the name
of avenging him or having it prove a
point about how the violence really
comes from the quote radical left.
Here's Christopher Rufo.
The last time the radical left
orchestrated a wave of violence and
terror, Jay Edgar Hoover shut it all
down within a few years. It is time
within the confines of the law to
infiltrate, disrupt, arrest, and
incarcerate all of those who are
responsible for this chaos.
Jed Ghouver instituted what became
notoriously known as COITEL Pro, where
the FBI infiltrated
all sorts of political groups against
the Vietnam War for civil rights.
They persecuted all kinds of people who
>> Yeah. They wiretapped Martin Luther
King, Malcolm X, and Stokeley Carmichael
and others in violation of the Fourth
Amendment to extract information about
them. This led them to try to convince
Martin Luther King to commit suicide.
Did the FBI, you know, days before he
received the Nobel Prize?
That is the fruits of this kind of
scheme, this wiretapping scheme, this
anti-constitution scheme, this
anti-liberty scheme. And that can befall
a civilization that embraces this as a
reaction to atrocities like this. I
noticed that Rufo just said all of the
people, you know, responsible for this.
As if he's trying to paint a broad brush
that everyone within whatever
ideological camp the shooter comes from,
and we don't know all the information
yet, they're culpable, too. and they
have to pay the price by paying with
their own rights and liberty. Well, I
say that's hogwash. That's not something
we should embrace from either direction,
the right or the left, whenever it
happens and whoever it happens to.
That's not the American way. That's the
totalitarian way.
>> Political divergencies, but it's also
been done to the American right as well.
Do they do do people like Christopher
Rufo not remember that the American
right has been infiltrated by Homeland
Security and by the FBI under the same
theory? Oh, this is an insurrectionary
movement. They're a threat to the
democratic uh order and therefore we
need to shut them down.
The whole January 6 commission was about
taking away political liberties from the
American right basically trying to
criminalize the Trump movement. I've
seen that in Brazil here too where the
Bolson art broke is in the process of
being criminalized and has been
criminalized for a long time.
>> Yeah, they did this in Ruby Ridge, Randy
Weaver and his family. They did this at
Waco blowing up the branch devidians
when they could have arrested Kash or uh
Caresh in isolation.
They've done this time and time and time
again. January 6th where it seemed like
entrapment was involved and the
prosecution campaign against those
people for protesting, one of which was
a grandma and some of which didn't even
enter the capital. Many of them arrested
with the book thrown toward them under
this farcical insurrection narrative.
They will weaponize it against the right
if the right weaponizes it against the
left right now. Certain to happen.
That's the nature of precedent and
government schemes where the government
doesn't just lay off policies they
implement. the next time your favored
party loses an election, it might be
faced right toward you and your throat.
>> So, just like endorsing political
violence with the belief that it's never
going to come back to you and your
allies or endorsing censorship because
it's someone you whose views you hate
and not realizing that that will come
back and eventually be used against you.
calling for political repression by the
FBI after the conservative movement, the
right-wing, the MAGA movement spent
years, the last eight years complaining
about the politization of the deep state
and the interference of these deep state
institutions in our domestic politics.
Now suddenly want to weaponize it.
Here's Laura Loomer. Quote, "It's time
for the Trump administration to shut
down, defund, and prosecute every single
leftist organization. If Charlie Kirk
dies from his injuries, his life cannot
be in vain. We must shut down these
lunatic leftists once and for all. The
left is a national security threat.
>> Just think of that. How absurd is this?
This right-wing reactionary
totalitarianism just being openly
endorsed by some of the leading
influencers on the right. This was my
big first response to this shot. I'm
like, they're going to bring back, you
know, reactionary right-wing
totalitarianism now. You know, if it
wasn't talking about transing kids, it's
going to be this. These two things might
provide the catalyst for the right to
exploit to go after people to actually
send a f federalized military force into
Chicago that Trump has flirted with.
This could push that sort of thing over
the edge as it could endorse a
censorship regime turning the war
machine inward and battling against
left-wing dissident setting up a new
kind of structure where there is a
diminishment of rights for particular
political dissident outlying other
political parties. This is what you know
befalls civilization for adopting this
kind of line. And I don't blame some
people for lashing out, especially
because of Kirk being robbed of his
family and his family being robbed of
him and the fact that there are
emotional responses and many of them are
warranted, but pushing it to this degree
is asking for disaster. This is the
worst response and it's likened to
something like 9/11 or the Reichdog
fire. These are the sorts of things that
governments love to get their claws into
and exploit to the detriment of our
lives, liberty, and property every
single time.
>> Libs of Tik Tok always sober and
restrained. All capital letters. This is
war.
As I said, I knew Charlie somewhat,
but I know a lot of people who know him
very well, and I understand uh the pain
and agony of someone dying very young,
way too young. And I don't think I would
wish that.
I'm not going to say on anyone because
there is evil in the world. there are
people who are murdering and engaging in
genocide the like. But I wouldn't really
wish that on almost anybody. And
if I'm going to have a standard that
says it's sometimes necess it's
necessarily justified to engage in
political violence, I'm going to have as
narrow of a standard as I possibly can
where that's justified and Charlie Kirk
is universes away from
any kind of remote justification. And I
think those who are celebrating, they
should really look inside of themselves
and ask what it says about them that
they are
>> right. You know, I agree with Glenn a
lot in this video that some of the
responses from both sides of the aisle
are horrific. not only justifying this
murder just for Kirk's beliefs, even
though we don't know much about the
shooter or his ideas yet, you know, to
to say that it's justified on the basis
of his beliefs where he didn't hurt
anyone, he didn't deprive anyone else of
their rights or their liberties or their
wealth and that just justifies a murder
is absurd. And equally abhorrent is
calls from the right to crack down on an
entire sector, an entire faction of the
American populace as if they had
something to do with this murder. No,
that is asking for disaster. We should
learn the worst lessons of 9/11 where
after that attack we instituted, you
know, a massive surveillance state,
perverted the fourth amendment through
expanding warrantless wiretapping,
expanding the FISA courts, the secret
judicial process that was a sham to
deprive people of due process to set up
the DHS and the TSA and the Patriot Act,
the most disastrous legislation in
attacking our civil liberties in
decades. All because of 9/11 and letting
emotions control the day and just
weaponizing it against Muslims. That's
what they said. We're going to weaponize
it against terrorists. Right. Well, soon
we learned that it was weaponized
against everyone. Whether or not they
were culpable for 9/11 or not, Americans
had their civil rights seized. And now
every time you walk through an airport,
they're violating the Fourth Amendment
by searching you at TSA. We know that
they cracked down on speech rights
because of the COVID era and the COVID
regime. That was an excuse for
government to push religious
restrictions and business closures and
all sorts of perversions of our rights
too. We should learn that lesson here as
well. And you know, it sickens me to
know that this happened to someone of
such prominence that most people, even
if they disagreed with Charlie, the
people that knew him personally, had
good things to say about him, that he
was open to debate, no matter how much
you disagreed with him. He was a debate.
He would have debated till the sun came
up. And you can't say that about
everyone on the right or the left. And I
don't have much good to say about his
views toward Israel, but that's kind of
inconsequential to this conversation.
This is a microcosm of the worst
impulses in humanity and to shut that
down. And I'll just say political
assassinations often backfire. Political
oriented ones and political violence.
And I'll use just two examples. Julius
Caesar was assassinated by a faction of
senators that thought that doing so
would help restore the republic back to
its sensible, you know, beginnings where
it wasn't perverted by a military
dictatorship because Caesar had just won
a civil war. He seized the treasury, won
a three or four year against Pompy and
basically remained the ruler of Rome,
was given dictatorship for life and was
thinking about crowning himself king and
establishing a hereditary dynasty. Well,
he was killed for that, but it
backfired. It led to, you know, a new
civil war that killed multitudes in the
ascension of Augustus, someone who took
more power than Caesar could have ever
dreamed of. And then you had Abraham
Lincoln, I think a tyrant. He jailed
political dissident, plunged the country
into war when it didn't have to be a
war, when it could have been a peaceful
separation. He shut down 300 northern
newspapers. He deported dissident,
including a former congressman named
Clement Vandingham.
He suspended habius corpus, placing
members of the Maryland legislature
under house arrest. And he was killed by
John Wils Booth. And I know some people
that think, you know, Booth was a hero
for shooting Lincoln, but that
backfired. It made Lincoln a martyr just
like it made Caesar a martyr when he got
assassinated. You know, so now we have
this myth around Abraham Lincoln and
despite all the deaths he caused, nearly
a million Americans dying in a civil war
that didn't have to happen. It was a
martyrdom and it put him into almost
religious sanctimonyy where this new
aura of civil religion was built up
around him and a cult of personality
built up around it in a way that those
who, you know, cheered his killing at
first never would have imagined. And
that's what might happen here. You know,
I'm not saying that Charlie Kirk was
Julius Caesar or Abraham Lincoln or was
ever in control of a government, but he
is a big enough figure where this could
be a significant martyrdom that could
backfire for the left, especially if the
right embraces this to the extent that
they're really going to build a
reactionary right-wing response to this.
And that's my biggest fear. That's my
biggest trepidation to come from this is
that cannot be allowed to be embraced.
No matter how much you like Kirk, I know
some people watching this probably liked
him a lot, but do not let that happen.
That's the worst thing that could happen
to the United States. Adhere to liberty
and individual rights and the
Constitution. Do not let them run rough
shot over it for the sake of this and
penalize everyone who wasn't involved in
this murder. Throw the book at the
murderer, but don't do that. But I do
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