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Subscribe on YouTubeJack Hibbs Explains Why Christians Must Vote and Pastors Must Speak Out on Biblical Values
Jack Hibbs, senior and founding pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, addresses the urgent call for Christians to engage in politics as a sacred biblical responsibility. Hibbs challenges the silence of many pastors across America, arguing that sitting out elections is equivalent to burying the talents Jesus spoke about in scripture. He confronts the apathy within the church, critiques Christianity Today's suggestion that not voting may be biblically appropriate, and dismisses fears about the Johnson Amendment. With one Sunday remaining before the election, Hibbs makes a passionate case for why every believer must vote according to biblical values on issues like life, Israel, marriage, and borders. He also shares encouraging news about the rising conservative movement in California and issues a direct challenge to both pastors and congregants to fulfill their duty in preserving the Republic.
Politics as a Sacred Biblical Trust
Jack Hibbs frames Christian involvement in politics as a sacred trust rooted directly in scripture. Drawing from Jesus's parable of the talents, Hibbs explains that each person has been given opportunities and responsibilities to advance what God has entrusted to them. Jesus condemned the servant who buried his talent rather than investing it, and Hibbs applies this principle directly to voting.
For Christians who claim they will sit out the election, Hibbs argues they are actually giving their vote to candidates who stand against biblical values. He specifically mentions policies that are anti-Israel, anti-life, anti-God's design for marriage, anti-border, and anti-constitutional. Christians have deluded themselves into thinking that by not voting they are doing good, when in reality they are practicing apathy.
Hibbs emphasizes that if he can vote to block the death of even one more child, that alone justifies his participation. He reminds Christians that neither candidate can walk on water—only Jesus did that and only He can. Believers need to mature and understand they are not voting for a pope, priest, or messiah.
The Coalition Effect of Voting for Trump
When voting for Trump, Hibbs points out that Christians also get a coalition of people who will do good for the nation, including JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, and RFK Jr. By sitting out the election, Christians bury their Judeo-Christian fundamental freedoms and the constitutional republic itself.
Hibbs insists that every Christian who names the name of Christ should vote for Trump because he is closest to a biblical worldview. Trump is not perfect—nobody is—but he fits the bill best for the believer. Christians must get away from emotions and get back to obedience to the Bible.
Why Pastors Are Silent
When asked why so many pastors are silent on these clear moral issues, Hibbs says the answer is too long for one program but identifies the primary problem as a lack of fear of God. Pastors in America are not reading and studying the Bible for themselves, so they cannot address the issues their congregants deal with Monday through Friday or even Saturday on the soccer field.
These pastors do not equip their people to handle conversations at the water cooler on Monday morning. Instead, as Charles Spurgeon said, they preach sermon-ettes for Christian-ettes. Pastors must equip their people for the darkest age this world and nation has ever seen.
The Christian pastor should put away his fear. If his board or denomination says he cannot talk about these issues, it is time to either get fired from that denomination or start a church down the street. The hour is so late that God has been merciful, and the result of this election will be defined by the church's engagement or lack thereof.
The Church as Counselor to the King
The church is the counselor to the king. As the church influences or does not influence the culture, so the nation will go. Right now, the church is indifferent toward the suffering of neighbors and the persecution of believers.
Addressing Christianity Today's recent article suggesting that not voting may be the best way for many Christians to heed their conscience and the prompting of the Holy Spirit, Hibbs states emphatically that no Spirit-filled believer indwelt by the Holy Spirit would say at an hour like this to not get involved, to let babies die, to let trafficking of kids across the border continue.
Since when have Christians taken their conscience and made it greater than the Bible itself? A believer's conscience is to be rebuked and shaped by the word of God. Conscience is not king—Jesus is king. Much of this rhetoric exists because people want to feel better about themselves. Jesus said in the last days when He returned, would He even find faith on the earth? Apathy is what is being served up in the pulpits today by cowards who have completely shirked their biblical calling to equip and disciple their people to engage in a godless culture.
We Don't Deserve Liberty
Only by the grace and mercy of God does America still have a country where this discussion can even take place, because the nation does not deserve liberty anymore. America has turned its back, and only because of God's goodness does the country continue to have even a little bit of this freedom.
The Johnson Amendment Excuse
Many pastors claim they cannot speak out on politics because of the Johnson Amendment and the Internal Revenue Service. With one Sunday before the election, this is the last chance for pastors to get it right as they prepare their sermons.
Hibbs asks why pastors are afraid of the IRS. Does God need the IRS? Does the church need the Johnson Amendment or 501(c)(3) status? Pastors are to answer to the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. If believers do not exercise their freedoms, they lose them. Pastors have First Amendment rights also. They pay taxes and can speak.
Hibbs points out that Taylor Swift does not hold anything back, yet pastors hold back. Citing Ezekiel 33, he notes that God told the watchmen on the wall that if they do not blow the trumpet of warning to the evil coming to their people, God will require their blood from their hand. If they warn the people and the people do not listen, then it is on their head. But God commands them to warn.
Every pastor must this Sunday speak out on the biblical answer regarding the unborn, marriage, gender, Israel, borders, the United States, and the founding of the country. Pastors must stop thinking that one area is sacred and another is secular. Under God, it is all sacred. Jesus made this clear when He said render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's.
Every Jew in the audience when Jesus said that understood He had just placed Caesar under the rule of God. Jesus was not saying Caesar is in charge of one thing and God is in charge of another. Rather, Caesar is under God's authority, and Rome is under God's authority. They all understood this then, but the Western church has completely messed this up.
Life Party Versus Death Party
Christians must register to vote and vote biblical worldview values. One party is for wholesale death—they even celebrated it at their convention with abortion trucks. The other party is for the preservation of life. If voters do not know who these people are, they should simply vote down the ballot for the life party versus the death party. It is that simple.
California Is Rising
While much focus is on battleground states, California cannot be forgotten. People have justifiably written off California for so long, and the state has been at the bottom and is so debased that it sent people like Kamala Harris from California to Washington.
However, something remarkable is happening. Across California, rallies have been held to equip churches, pastors, and congregants on how to conduct voter registration and legal ballot collection. Pastors have been equipped on how to speak to the issues. The turnout has been overwhelming.
As a native-born and raised Californian, Hibbs says he has never seen so many people excited and motivated. Since 2016, California has been trending more and more conservative, though this is rarely reported. The proof is in the results: Mike Johnson is Speaker of the House. He got his job from Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy got the job because Nancy Pelosi was fired when California sent more Republican congressmen and women to Washington DC than any other state in the 2022 election cycle.
Something is happening in California. People are getting charged up, and the state may produce some impressive numbers on election night.
How to Approach a Silent Pastor
For congregants who have a pastor who is silent or trembling on these issues, especially with only days remaining before the election, how should they approach their pastor? Consider someone who has attended a church for twenty years, and that church remains completely silent on critical moral issues like radical abortion measures.
Hibbs cites Isaiah 10:1, which says to stop those who write bad laws, and Proverbs 29:2, which says when the righteous are in power the people rejoice, but when the wicked are in power the people groan. God designed churches to become like their pastors, and pastors should follow Christ. Congregants will become like their pastor and will be tempted to be silent.
The number one person mentioned as inheriting hell in Revelation 21:8 is the coward. There are no excuses for pastors. The ship is sinking and they want to talk about lighting and smoke screens. This is the last moment to preserve the Republic, and God has designed it to fall on the shoulders of the church. The answer is not in the White House or the State House—it will be in God's house. What will believers do with this opportunity?
The Secular World Is Watching
The secular world is looking at the church and asking why the church is so silent. The unsaved community is asking why the church does not care about liberty as much as non-believers do. This is a dark reality.
Hibbs recently appeared on a program hosted by a man who is not of the Christian faith but is a man of faith. That host said his people will not vote and asked where the Christians are, because the nation needs Christians to keep the country free.
Hibbs shared data from the George Barna poll showing how close Biden won in 2020, but if Christians had turned out, it would have crushed all the swing states. The impact would have been remarkable.
No Excuses for Christians
Christians must not bury their light or put it under a basket. If a pastor is not speaking out on these issues, that does not leave the congregant off the hook. Believers must go do the right thing: register and vote. In many places, they can even register and vote the same day. But they must vote life, vote Israel, vote borders—and that means voting for Trump.
As Calvin Robinson said, Jesus is not on the ballot, but Jezebel is.
Video Transcript
joining us now is Jack Hibbs who is a
great man I listen to him every week I
can founder and president of the real
life Network senior and founding pastor
of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills an author
of living in the days of deception and a
spiritual mentor of mine Jack great to
see you my friend Charlie I love you
brother thanks thank you so Jack uh
let's just begin with how should
Christians view politics and
specifically this
election yeah number one right out of
the Bible as a sacred trust uh it's
Charlie it's one of those things that
Jesus said in the parable that he gave
one man one responsibility another man a
different responsibility and a third man
another one each of them had their
opportunity to advance what was given to
them Jesus called them talents not
playing the piano it's opportunity to
make a difference and he he condemned
the one who took the opportunity that
they had and buried it under the ground
or put it under a basket so for the
Christian today to say I'm going to sit
out the vote is to actually give the
vote to for example Camala Harris and
her anti-israel anti-life anti- uh God's
design for marriage anti- border
anti-constitutional uh belief system
she'll just surrender all of that so the
Christian somehow has diluted himself
Charlie into thinking if I don't vote
I'm doing good no in the reality you are
practicing apathy because if I can vote
for Trump and block the death of one
more child look neither one of these
candidates can walk on water Christians
need to really grow up and understand
that only Jesus did that and he's the
only one that can do that we're not
voting for a pope or for a priest or for
a messiah Charlie and and I'd like to
say this that if Trump were to win I get
JD Vance I get vivec I get Tulsi I get
Elon I get a lot of people I get RFK I
get a lot of people that's going to do
really good for this nation if I sit it
out I take my Christian
judeo-christian uh
fundamental freedom of this nation this
constitutional republic not a democracy
and I bury it and Charlie it's
unacceptable every Christian who names
the name of Christ should go vote
frankly for Trump because he's closest
to a Biblical worldview he's not perfect
nobody is but he's the one that fits the
bill best for the believer we got to get
away from emotions and get back to
obedience to the Bible I I I love that
Jack and and I want to just take a pause
here and say God bless you for speaking
out because so many pastors are silent
right now why is that Jack why is why
are they over complicating this why is
it that pastors where it's so clear that
on one side you have you have abortion
trucks at their
convention you have Easter becoming the
transgender day of awareness you have
anti-israel anti-jew hatred open borders
sex
trafficking how can why are pastors
failing at their tasks so miserably
Charlie the answer is too long for me to
put into this entire program I'll tell
you this right now though uh lack of
fear of God number one thing they're not
reading the Bibles for themselves I'm
talking about I'm talking to the Pastors
in America they're not studying and
reading the Bibles for themselves so
they cannot address the issues that
their congregants are dealing with
Monday through Friday or even Saturday
in the soccer field the conversations
they' have not equipped their people to
deal with at the water cooler on Monday
morning they do sermons or as Charles
Spurgeon says they preach sermon nets
for Christian NS we've got to equip our
people for the darkest age that this
world and that this nation has ever seen
it is the Christian Pastor that should
put away his fear and by the way if his
board or his denomination says you can't
talk about this stuff it's time to
either get fired from that denomination
or go start a church down the street but
the hour is so late that I believe God
has been so merciful that if the
Christian doesn't get involved uh this
the result of this election is going to
be the church's uh engagement or not
that's going to define the results of
this election Jack I completely agree
with that and I want to just reiterate
it okay which is that the the the the
church is the counselor to the king
as the church influences or does not
influence the culture and the nation
will go and right now the church is
indifferent towards the suffering of our
neighbor towards the persecution of the
believer so I want to ask you about uh
what Christianity today uh published um
yesterday Christianity Today says quote
in a binary election with choices like
these not voting may be the best way for
many Christians to heed their conscience
consciences and prompting of the Holy
Spirit even to vote biblically your
reaction Jack hibs to Christianity today
it's my understanding that no
Spirit-filled
indwell Holy Spirit living inside the
True Believer would say it an hour like
this don't get involved let babies die
don't get involved let's keep
trafficking kids across the border and
listen since when have we taken our
conscience and made it greater than the
Bible itself my conscience is to be
rebuked by the Bible my conscience is to
be shaped by the word of God my
conscience is not King Jesus is King but
a lot of this rhetoric Charlie's going
on because people want to feel better
about themselves and and just that shame
on that kind of thinking but you know
what Charlie Jesus said in the last days
when he returned would he even find
faith on the earth apathy seems to be
what's being served up in the pulpits
today and tragically by by cowards they
have they have completely Sher their
biblical calling to equip and disciple
their people to engage in a Godless
culture Jack that only by the grace and
the mercy of God do we still even have a
country where we can have this
discussion because we don't deserve
Liberty anymore we we have turned our
back as a nation and only because of
God's goodness do we continue to have
even a little bit of this Freedom so
Jack I want you to talk about an
objection that we receive from pastors
every so often where pastors will say
but I can't speak out on politics
because of the Johnson Amendment and the
Internal Revenue Service so Jack there
is one Sunday before the election this
is the last chance for pastors to get it
right right now they're probably back in
their offices they're preparing their
Sunday sermons but many of them are
afraid to speak out because of the IRS
Jack how should we think about this yeah
well number one if you want some help
about your sermon prep on this topic you
can check out my sermon that I just did
a couple weeks ago on this it was
excellent it was
excellent when a Christian doesn't Vote
or you can also listen to the great
sermon by uh Gary hemrick uh and and so
here's the thing um IRS are you afraid
of the IRS why are you afraid of the IRS
does God need the IRS does your church
need the Johnson Amendment or the or
501c3 Pastor listen you and I are to
answer to the King of Kings and the Lord
of lords and if we don't exercise our
freedoms pastors have the first First
Amendment right also we pay taxes we can
speak listen uh Taylor Swift doesn't
hold anything back but I we see pastors
holding back pastors Ezekiel 33 God said
through the Watchmen on the wall if you
do not blow the trumpet of warning to
the evil that is coming to your people
God said I will require their blood from
your hand if you do not warn them if you
warn them and they do not listen to you
then it's on their head but I'm
commanding you to warn them every Pastor
must this Sunday speak out on the
biblical answer to apologetics The
Unborn marriage gender Israel borders
the United States the founding of this
country it's endless stop thinking that
this is sacred and that over there is
secular under God it's all secular or
excuse me under God the secular is all
sacred Jesus made that clear when he
said render to Caesar the things that
are Caesars and to God the things that
are Gods every Jew
every Jew in the audience when Jesus
said that they understood oh my gosh he
just placed Caesar under the rule of God
because it's he wasn't saying Caesar's
in charge of this and God's in charge of
that no Caesar is even under the charge
of God Rome is under God's Authority and
they all got it back then it's only the
western church that has completely
messed this up we've got to register to
vote we've got to vote a Biblical
worldview value and frankly the party
for cron out like if you don't know how
to vote one party is for wholesale death
they even did it at their convention yes
and the other party is for the
preservation of life if you don't know
who these people are then just vote down
ballots life party versus death party
simple as that now Jack we're very
focused on Battleground States but I got
to give you credit can you just Riff on
the energy that you have in California
we can't forget our California Brethren
and so just for you jack I want you to
riff a little bit about how all states
need to fight for liberty regardless of
the Electoral chances or college
probabilities yeah listen everybody be
encouraged because not only has
California been the state that people
have justifiably written off forever but
what's been happening we've been at the
bottom for so long and we are are we are
so debased here that we've even sent
people like Kamala Harris through uh
from California to Washington so please
stop but here's the deal in California
Charlie we have traveled up and down the
state of California we have held rallies
to equip churches and pastors and
congregants on how to do voter
registration and California ballot
collections legal we we've perfected
that and then we we've also equipped
pastors on how to speak to the issues
we've had such great turnout that it has
been overwhelming I have I'm a native
born and raised California I have never
seen so many people excited and
motivated and please do keep this in
mind everybody ever since
2016 California has been trending more
and more r read more and more
conservative and you don't ever hear
about it but I'm going to prove it to
you right now who is the Speaker of the
House his name is Mike Johnson where did
he get his job from Kevin McCarthy how
did Kevin McCarthy get the job Nancy
Pelosi got fired because California sent
more congressmen and women to Washington
DC than any other state in that 2022
election cycle something's happening in
California people are getting charged up
and Charlie don't be surprised if we see
some awesome numbers on Election night
coming out of California I I I love it
Jack in closing here Jack just for the
audience if they have a quivering or a
trembling pastor this these couple days
as their pastors are getting their
sermon notes together how should they
approach their Pastor let's say they've
gone to a church for 20 years let's take
one example here in Phoenix there's a
church called CCV it's the biggest
church in Arizona they're completely
silent on the most radical abortion
measure in the country Jack so we have a
thing called prop 139 here in Arizona
it's as bad as it gets it's it's it's
California style abortion for minors I'm
not kidding not an exaggeration CCV here
in Phoenix is massive you've probably
heard of it totally silent they have not
said a word anything let's say someone's
gone to that church for 20 years how
should they approach that I mean as we
get closer to the election this Sunday
that's it this is the last chance how
should the rank and file approach that
with pastors that they've T tied to
prayed for in love yeah number one
listen uh Isaiah chapter 10 verse one
says stop those who write bad laws
Isaiah
101 uh Proverbs 29 verse2 when the
righteous are in power the people
rejoice when the wicked are in power the
people Gran all right and listen bottom
line is this I hate hate to put it to
you this way but God designed churches
to become like their pastors and their
pastors should follow Christ you're
going to become like your pastor you're
going to you're going to be tempted to
be silent get out of there quick because
listen the number one person that is
mentioned that inherits hell in
Revelation 21:8 is the coward I don't
want to hear any excuses from pastors
the ship is sinking and they want to
talk about what lighting and smoke
screens no listen this is our last
moment to preserve this Republic and I
believe that God has designed it right
now Charlie to fall on the shoulders of
the church you and I know well the
answer is not in the white house or in
the State House the answer is going to
be in God's house and what will we do
with this opportunity
Charlie and by the way Jack the secular
world is looking at the church I want
you to comment on this minute remaining
and there's why is the church so silent
the secular world Jack is asking why the
church doesn't care about Liberty as
much as the non-believer unsaved
Community how dark is that I was just on
I won't mention his program I don't know
if it matters or not but you know who
I'm talking about I was just on his
program he's not of our faith but he's a
man of Faith he said where are the
Christians I my people won't vote my
people won't vote we need you Christians
to keep this country free where are you
guys and Charlie I gave them the data
from the George Barna poll how how close
Biden won in 2020 but if the Christians
would have turned out it would have
crushed all those swing States crushed
it it would have been remarkable so
listen don't bury your light don't put
it under a basket Christian forget about
what your P if your pastor's not
speaking out on it that doesn't leave
you off the hook go do the right thing
register and go vote you can even do it
the same day but vote vote life vote
Israel vote borders yes and and that is
to vote Trump again um as Calvin
Robinson said I didn't say this Jesus is
not on the ballot but Jezebel is that's
Calvin Robinson's words Jack Jack KBS
you could you could give a attribution
where it's due you got a problem with it
go uh go after um him on Twitter thank
you Jack I appreciate it I love you
brother take care you're the best God
bless you