Jack Posobiec Honors Charlie Kirk at Pre-Trial: Faith, Politics, and the Fight for Truth

[00:00] Okay, we'll hurry so we can get everyone

[00:02] in to court on time.

[00:03] >> Say and spell your name.

[00:04] >> Sure. My name is Jack Posobic. P O S O B

[00:07] I E C.

[00:08] >> Tell me why it was so important for you

[00:10] to be here for the trial or the

[00:12] pre-trial I should say this week. Well,

[00:14] look, I I was planning to be here even

[00:16] before uh we got the news that Erica had

[00:18] decided that she would come as well

[00:20] because just have to show support for

[00:23] Charlie and show support for this

[00:26] process, getting the information out,

[00:28] getting the facts out, getting the truth

[00:30] out. It is a laborious process. It is

[00:32] grueling obviously being in there in the

[00:35] courtroom dayto day and obviously it's

[00:38] very emotional for those of us who knew

[00:40] Charlie but at the same time I know that

[00:43] he would have wanted us to make sure

[00:44] that everything is done properly that

[00:46] everything's done in in an important

[00:48] manner but also to show the world that

[00:52] we're we're not going anywhere that we

[00:54] turning point USA's mission will

[00:56] continue and whether that means facing

[00:59] this whether that means facing down uh

[01:01] whatever you you know, adversaries or

[01:03] challenges come our way, we are going to

[01:05] meet them and we're going to do so in

[01:07] spades. And then when I found out that

[01:09] Erica and Charlie's parents were going

[01:11] to be here, I said, "Well, then I I

[01:13] absolutely have to come."

[01:14] >> Tell me about your relationship with

[01:15] Charlie.

[01:18] >> Uh what can I say? Uh Charlie and I work

[01:20] together every day. um fought a lot of

[01:23] fights together, being in the trenches,

[01:26] uh politically speaking of course, and

[01:28] you know, going up against uh you know,

[01:30] obviously had a huge election in 2024

[01:32] and we just worked around the clock

[01:35] almost 247, although I would say 246 in

[01:38] Charlie's uh case because he always took

[01:40] the one day off. But, you know,

[01:42] traveling around the country doing

[01:44] everything we could to fight for, you

[01:46] know, our beliefs and fight to help that

[01:49] this country be put on a better track.

[01:52] That's what we talked about every day.

[01:54] And, you know, we prayed together a lot.

[01:56] Uh, every we would start every morning

[01:57] with Charlie would have this thing where

[01:59] uh every morning he would actually text

[02:03] a uh a Bible verse to uh people he was

[02:07] close with or friends and and family.

[02:10] And you know, we would just sort of

[02:12] comment on that. And it was great

[02:14] because we would start every day with

[02:16] that. You know, people say like, "Oh,

[02:17] did you start your news your day by

[02:19] checking news or seeing what's you know,

[02:21] on on the headlines?" Said, "No, we

[02:23] would go to the Bible and start every

[02:24] single day there." And since that's

[02:27] happened, I try to do that now with

[02:29] people is is okay, just find a verse of

[02:32] the day and just start sending that out

[02:33] because that was the right energy to

[02:36] start the day with and that's what

[02:37] Charlie always started with. There was a

[02:39] lot of argument in court yesterday over

[02:41] whether it should be admissible into

[02:43] court. Uh what Charlie's political

[02:45] beliefs were or what his religious

[02:46] beliefs were and sometimes they probably

[02:48] cross paths a little bit. Uh what do you

[02:50] think about that being part of the

[02:52] trial? Does that need to be part of the

[02:53] story? Well, I I think it does need to

[02:55] be part of the story and and definitely

[02:57] if it speaks to motive because if this

[03:00] killing was motivated because of

[03:03] religious and political beliefs and

[03:06] gender issues, for example, then

[03:08] obviously that speaks to not just the

[03:10] the reason that the killing took place,

[03:12] but it speaks to motive and it speaks to

[03:14] the reason that we are in court. And so,

[03:16] you know, to the defense's argument, no,

[03:18] we're not here to hash out the theology

[03:20] of it all. But if Charlie's beliefs,

[03:23] which he held and which he was known to

[03:26] hold and to defend and support as he

[03:29] went around the uh the country, are the

[03:31] reason that he was targeted, not only is

[03:34] it germaine, it might be the most

[03:35] important thing in the entire case. So,

[03:38] I really do think that we need to at

[03:39] least acknowledge that.

[03:41] >> Were you with Charlie here on September

[03:43] 10th last year at his event? I I was not

[03:45] here. I was uh I was at work on the east

[03:48] coast in actually in DC that day, but I

[03:50] was talking to him that whole morning.

[03:53] >> And how did you find out like the rest

[03:54] of the world?

[03:55] >> Uh I was actually on air and um so

[03:59] typically he would do a show from uh

[04:03] noon to 2 Eastern and then my show would

[04:05] come on right after him. So we do the

[04:08] handoff and then my show would come up

[04:10] and we knew that he was on campus. We

[04:12] had actually had a guest host that day

[04:13] and we were sort of covering to see, you

[04:16] know, if we had any good clips or any,

[04:18] you know, good moments that we could

[04:20] play and just see how the crowd was that

[04:23] normal stuff. Normal. It was the first

[04:24] um campus stop of the tour. And so, you

[04:28] know, we're all excited. School was

[04:29] getting back in session. and Charlie was

[04:30] getting out there and he had spent weeks

[04:32] preparing for this and you know had a

[04:34] binder full of different arguments and

[04:36] comebacks and all sorts of things he was

[04:39] researching and you know then we got

[04:43] first word that hey there's been a

[04:44] shooting at the event and at first I

[04:47] thought you know maybe we we get a lot

[04:50] of reports like that and sometime most

[04:52] of the time they actually turn out to be

[04:53] not true or it's a false report because

[04:55] someone's trying to shut down event

[04:57] someone calls in a bomb threat something

[04:58] like that and so My first thought was

[05:00] that I hope that that's all it is. And

[05:04] I'll tell you though, for some reason,

[05:07] this one felt different even from the

[05:08] very from the very start. And uh when we

[05:11] have our, you know, kind of like live

[05:13] show going, you can see sometimes the

[05:14] comments coming in

[05:16] >> and you know, every single comment all

[05:19] of a sudden was something shifted and

[05:22] was Charlie got shot. And so I'm going

[05:26] back to my team and say, "Hey, I don't

[05:28] want to say this on air if it's not

[05:29] true. Can you contact somebody, you

[05:32] know, another team member on the ground,

[05:34] work the phone chain to see if someone

[05:36] will answer so we can get some clarity

[05:37] of what happened?" And then probably a

[05:40] couple seconds after that is when I saw

[05:42] the video.

[05:43] >> One second. I just so we're not missing

[05:45] where we're supposed to be in court.

[05:47] >> 12:30.

[05:47] >> 12:30. Okay. We have a couple minutes to

[05:49] Are you still okay?

[05:50] >> Yeah, maybe like one more minute. Yeah.

[05:52] >> Um, so it's been difficult. It's been a

[05:55] difficult nine t months since then. Tell

[05:57] me uh what you hope to get out of uh

[06:00] being here today and what you want

[06:02] people to know about Char.

[06:04] >> Look, we we need to get the truth out.

[06:06] We need to get the process to be done um

[06:09] in a in a proper manner and I think that

[06:11] the the prosecution has been doing that.

[06:13] I think they've been methodical. I think

[06:15] they have been relentless. um perhaps a

[06:18] little slower than I'm used to in the

[06:20] sort of the news and politics world, but

[06:23] I understand that they are building the

[06:25] scaffolding of this case and we want the

[06:27] evidence to get out. Number one, to make

[06:30] it clear what happened to Charlie, but

[06:32] number two, to make sure that people

[06:34] know why this happened and to understand

[06:37] what Charlie stood for. Because Charlie

[06:39] didn't stand for violence or hurting or

[06:42] pain or tearing people down. He wanted

[06:45] everyone to be able to build themselves

[06:48] up. And he thought that embracing the

[06:51] Bible, embracing the teachings of

[06:53] Christ, that was the way, best way to

[06:55] live your life. And that's what he

[06:57] always wanted for everyone from the

[06:58] youngest student or child all the way up

[07:01] to anybody who would come. That was

[07:03] Charlie. And he did things the right way

[07:04] and he did things the peaceful way. And

[07:06] to see a guy like that get cut down,

[07:08] it's it's just one of the most horrible

[07:09] things that that I've ever seen in my

[07:12] life.

[07:12] >> What has it been like being in court

[07:13] with him?

[07:15] with Tyler.

[07:16] >> Yeah,

[07:17] >> it's it's surreal.

[07:18] >> I ask me in a year. I I don't even know

[07:21] how to put it into words because it's

[07:22] it's a very it's quite small room and

[07:25] there's a couple rows in the gallery.

[07:28] His family's there. Well, Tyler's

[07:30] family's there and Charlie's family's

[07:32] there and then Tyler's right there. And

[07:35] it's um it's it's very emotional. It's a

[07:38] a very

[07:40] very big mix of emotions and you know

[07:42] there's there's moments of anger,

[07:44] there's moments of just feeling that

[07:46] chill down your spine, hair standing up

[07:49] on your neck, but got to do it.

[07:51] >> Thanks so much for your time. Thank you.