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Marking one month since Charlie Kirk's assassination, James Li revisits the case of George Zinn, the man who falsely confessed to the shooting at the scene, which Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith has confirmed was an attempt to help the actual suspect escape. James Li cites reports that Zinn told medical staff he confessed because he had been promised payment, though he said he had not yet received it and did not know who would be paying him, and notes that Zinn was subsequently charged with possessing child pornography, which James Li suggests was used to discourage further scrutiny of him. Drawing on an old, now-removed podcast interview, James Li details Zinn's biography, including his birth in Athens, Greece, his adoption into a Mormon family in Ogden, Utah, his LDS mission in Virginia, and his claims of having attended numerous political conventions and brushed shoulders with figures including Dan Quayle, Henry Kissinger, Al Gore, and Ronald Reagan.
One Month After the Assassination
James Li opens by marking one month since Charlie Kirk's assassination and reframing the central question of the case around George Zinn, the man who shouted a false confession at the scene immediately after the shooting.
The False Confession and Payment Claim
James Li cites reporting that Zinn received medical treatment following his detention and told multiple nurses and doctors that he confessed because he had been promised payment, though he said he had not yet received it and did not know who it would come from. James Li cites Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith's public confirmation that Zinn admitted to authorities he yelled a false confession specifically to allow the actual suspect to escape.
The Subsequent Child Pornography Charge
James Li notes that Zinn was later charged with possessing child pornography, suggesting, without offering direct evidence, that this development served to discourage continued public interest in Zinn's background and motives.
Claims About a Scrubbed Online Footprint
James Li cites a query run through the AI tool Grok, which he says found circumstantial evidence that older clips and articles connecting Zinn to events including the September 11th attacks and past political campaigns became harder to access in the days following Charlie Kirk's assassination.
An Old Interview and 9/11 Claims
James Li plays a clip from an old documentary in which Zinn says he suspected al-Qaeda's involvement in the September 11th attacks before it was publicly confirmed, citing past dealings related to Osama bin Laden, and separately plays audio from a since-removed podcast interview in which Zinn discusses his background.
Zinn's Biography and CIA Recruitment Claims
According to the podcast audio, Zinn was born in Athens, Greece, adopted as a toddler into a Mormon family in Ogden, Utah, attended college briefly studying psychology and journalism before dropping out, and served an LDS mission in Virginia. James Li cites a 1981 Associated Press report describing Utah as a successful CIA recruiting ground, a 2017 book titled 'The FBI and Religion' describing church members as a natural recruiting pool, and a quote attributed to former CIA officer and author Tracy Walder describing an internal joke about Mormons being ideal recruits, alongside a CIA document James Li says shows personnel representatives visiting Brigham Young University to recruit church members.
Claims of Proximity to Major Political Figures
In the podcast clip, Zinn describes attending more than ten national political conventions by talking his way in using other delegates' credentials, encountering then-Vice President Dan Quayle in a restroom, attending Ronald Reagan's funeral procession where he says he encountered Henry Kissinger and Al Gore, and meeting Reagan in person years earlier in Hooper, Utah. James Li notes that Zinn deflected direct questions about how he gained such consistent access to these events.
Ian Carroll's Comment and James Li's Conclusion
James Li plays a clip of commentator Ian Carroll asserting that Zinn's pattern of presence at major events, combined with an unrelated incident in which Zinn called in a false bomb threat at a marathon, indicates he is an intelligence asset. James Li concludes that, whether knowingly or unknowingly, Zinn was likely utilized as an intelligence asset, and speculates that prior to Charlie Kirk's assassination, Zinn was probably considered more useful while free than in custody. James Li frames the broader case as a test of public trust in official narratives, comparing the scrutiny of Kirk's assassination to that of the Kennedy assassination.
Video Transcript
It's been exactly one month since the
tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk and
so many questions still remain. The
biggest of which was his death an act of
a deranged lone gunman or perhaps a dark
conspiracy to eliminate one of the most
influential political operators in
America. And one of the keys to finding
that answer is this man, George Zen. On
the day of Charles Kush's assassination,
you know, immediately George Zinn gets
up and says, "I did it. I did it. I did
it." And he kind of gets dragged. Well,
apparently George Zinn had to receive
medical treatment following that little
frockas. And he told
multiple nurses and doctors that he did
it because he was being paid to do it.
He said he had not been paid yet, but he
was going to receive payment. He didn't
know from who.
That's interesting.
Decoy boy
told medical staff
multiple apparently he was just singing
just like just telling everybody who
would listen that he did it because
payment was going to be promised to him
if he did do it. What does that tell us?
Well, Candace, what that tells us is
that this reaction that he had
immediately after Kirk was publicly
executed, standing up and waving his
arms while everyone was ducking down
like a normal human being, that was not
an accident. Those are the actions
indicative of someone who was exactly
where they were supposed to be and
perhaps, as she claimed, paid to be
there. The mainstream media has already
confirmed part of the story here for us.
Quote, "A 71-year-old man who was
briefly detained moments after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk tried to
help the suspected gunman escape by
faking a confession, authorities say."
Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith said
George admitted to the police that he
had yelled that he was the shooter to
allow the actual suspect to flee. Why
would he do something like that? Did
someone pay him like Candace is
claiming? And if so, who? And just as we
started asking those kinds of questions,
all of a sudden we hear that George Zinn
was charged with possessing child porn.
It's almost as if they didn't want us to
ask any more questions about him, right?
He's a creep. He's a weirdo. Stop
talking about him. There's nothing more
to see here. Let's move on. Grock, this
is very interesting, even found quote,
circumstantial evidence that George
Zinn's historical online footprint,
particularly older clips and articles
tying him to events like 9/11 and
political campaigns, was made harder to
access in the days immediately following
Charlie Kirk's assassination on
September 10th, 2025. Why? What the heck
is going on here? Why was his 911
testimony deleted? Was it because maybe
he talked about how he knew that
al-Qaeda was somehow responsible for the
9/11 attacks the moment he saw the
towers fall even before the press had
even announced anything to the public?
>> Jack, we did have some idea, you know,
there was something going on because we
dealt with um
Ben Laden before in in separate
instances. So, we did suspect that it
was al Qaeda involved in that.
>> Very weird why he would even be in a
documentary like that. And also, I know
the feds are kind of still catching up
on this reality that the internet just
can't be deleted. Speaking of which, I
was also able to dig up the audio file
from this podcast episode, which for
some reason, as you could see there, has
mysteriously vanished from the internet.
And let me tell you, it was a wild
episode to say the least. And let's just
say George is not at all as they make
him seem, okay? They've made him out to
be this crazy kook, the so-called
political gadfly as you can see in this
article here, but um I think there's a
lot more to it than that. Let's get into
it.
>> I was born in Athens, Greece.
>> Were you really?
>> Yeah. I was adopted when I was a year
and a half. So, I'm actually a
naturalized citizen. Did you grow up in
Far West then when you
>> No, I grew up right up Well, I grew up
on the other side of Ogden High.
>> Okay. So, north side of Ogden High.
>> Just on the other corner on Maryland
Street. grew up LD you grew up LDS,
right?
>> Yeah. And but but didn't go to didn't go
to college.
>> I did. Yeah. Yeah. I went to the Yeah,
I'm I consider myself an alumni. I mean,
>> what did you major in? What was your
major?
>> I started out in philosophy because or
not philosophy, but psychology, I think,
because it was interesting and I thought
it was good. I I did well in uh high
school with it. decided, well, it was a
little different in college and so I I
got on into other things and I think I
went into uh journalism or something
because I like to write. I
>> How long did you do that?
>> I was in there in college.
>> I was in there for a couple of years and
it was a little bit too stressful for me
and I just, you know, everybody wanted
to plug all this information into my
head and I just it just college just
wasn't for me. So I took in maybe two
years and then decide well.
>> Okay. So the first thing we learn here
is that he was born in Athens, Greece.
Just an interesting detail. I don't know
if there's anything to make from that.
But then he was adopted by Mormon
parents and grew up across the street
from Ogden High School in Utah. He was
also a member of the LDS church and then
he went to college in Utah for several
years and then dropped out. Well, here's
something interesting. FBI, CIA, NSA,
BYU, members of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints have long
been rumored to be special targets for
recruitment in government intelligence
and security agencies. I'm sure a lot of
you already know that. A 1981 Associated
Press news story reported, quote, "The
CIA does some of its most successful
recruiting in predominantly LDS Utah."
Then, uh, a 2017 book called The FBI and
Religion dedicates a full chapter to the
connection, calling church members
quote, "a natural recruiting ground for
agents." And Tracy Walder, a former CIA
officer and FBI special agent and author
of The Unexpected Spy, said that the
rumor was so common internally that by
the time she worked for the government,
it had become quote, "a running joke
that Mormons are what the agency wanted
in their recruitment." Here is a CIA
document that I found substantiating
some of those claims. Okay. In the
document, it says, "Office of personnel
representatives travel to BYU, Brigham
Young University to recruit and meet
with senior officials of the Mormon
church to discuss agency recruitment of
church members." Let's keep going to see
what George divulges in this now deleted
podcast.
>> Did you go on a Did you go on a mission?
>> Yeah, I went to Virginia.
>> Virginia? Yeah.
>> What mission in Virginia? uh Virginia
Ron Oak mission at the time.
>> Mission in Virginia. H I wonder what
else is in Virginia. Anyway, I'm sure
that location was a coincidence. Yet
again, also another fact, the CIA has
been known historically to recruit from
missionaries, which they say has
received some push back from LDS church
in more recent years. I guess they
really didn't appreciate the CIA coming
in and infiltrating their community. Uh,
but that's another story there. For our
purposes, uh, in terms of George Zinn,
we now have two points of possible
intelligence recruitment, his time in
college and also his years as a
missionary. Okay, we obviously don't
have documents like, oh, look right
here, George Zinn, member of the CIA.
But, uh, what I will say is that, um,
boy, has he really been everywhere.
>> You've been to every national
convention. I've been to at least 10,
but I couldn't, you know, it's
interesting. I usually could get into
most of the uh I I could talk one of the
delegates into a into a
credential and uh and they'd let me in.
>> You've been on the floor of more
conventions than most Republicans will
in their lifetime.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Who's the most famous person you've got
on your
>> Now, that's a that's a that's a
interesting question. I I got a I got a
lot of interesting people. Hey,
>> I had I had to go to uh do my thing in
in the men's room.
>> Yeah.
>> And I thought, well, and I go in and
there's Dan Quill in in the urinal next
to me. I go, holy smokes, here's the
vice president. And I thought, well, why
why would Secret Service block that
thing? I thought, wouldn't that be
interesting that they let people walk
right in?
>> So, you were you you walked through the
Capitol, paid your respects to Ronald
Reagan when he was laying in state.
>> Yeah. And uh they had everything roped
off for security reasons. You could only
get so far because of everybody walking
through that were VIPs and
>> right
>> we were sitting next to the cathedral
the whole time and when they came out I
bumped into Henry Kissinger uh by you
know I says oh I bumped into Al Gore you
know I wow we're I'm like a kid in a
candy store here I am bumping into all
these guys.
>> Who did you what president did you meet?
>> I mean you met
>> Ronald Reagan was dead.
>> No I met Reagan when he came to Hooper.
>> So Reagan you met him in Hooper?
>> I met him in Hooper. We had sack lunches
that day. It was fun. Yeah. That's
That's crazy. This is insane. Like
dinner with Reagan, pissing next to the
vice president, sneaking into Reagan's
funeral. I don't know how you would do
something like that. And then rubbing
elbows with Henry Kissinger and Al Gore.
That is something. I mean, I know George
said, you know, he was like, I'm really
good at talking my way into these kinds
of events, but I don't know. And the
interviewer actually did try to ask
several times, you know, when he started
going to all these events and how
exactly was he able to sneak backstage?
And George basically dodged all those
questions either directly or with a
joke.
>> But wh was it you just decided I'm going
to start going to everything?
>> Was it?
>> I don't know. When my mom kicked me out
of the house and wouldn't let me in, you
know.
>> So So mom
>> No, that's a joke. That's a joke. You
got to know that I'm I mean I don't
answer questions. I just I just wal gag
around.
>> Well, right. Am I the only one who
thinks he's hiding something? You know,
it was it was because my mom kicked me
out. That's why I went to all these
things. Like, what is that all about? Am
I crazy? You know, you tell me if I am.
Because just looking at all the
evidence, it's much more likely than not
that he's an asset, right?
>> Shoot me. Shoot me. I did it. Shoot me.
Shoot me. I did it. And he also was a
[ __ ] he was on like on the scene for
9/11 and he called in a bomb threat to
not the Boston but one of the other
marathons. He's like clearly an agent.
Like that's a spy. That's a spy. The
reason why a dude that the reason why a
dude of any nationality would show up at
a whole bunch of major world events like
that is because they're a part of
organizations that orchestrate world
events called intelligence agencies.
Like that's a [ __ ] spy.
>> He's an effing spy, says Ian Carol. And
once again, when we look at the
preponderance of evidence, which is a
lot, but obviously nothing like once
again, yes, George Zinn is on the CIA
payroll. But the more likely than not
conclusion is that either he knowingly
or unknowingly has become and been
utilized as an intelligence asset. You
know, you don't just get to call in a
fake bomb threat at a major marathon
event and get off scot-free and go back
to live your normal life. No, somebody
on the inside is looking out for you.
And this is my conjecture here coming
up, but up to the point of Charlie
Kirk's assassination, George was likely
more useful to them in the wild than
behind bars. The last thing I'll say is
this whole ordeal, they're calling it
the JFK of our time, has taught me so
many lessons in recognizing the ways in
which the media colludes with the
government to subvert the truth to
basically convince you not to believe
your eyes and ears. But um news flash,
it's not 1963 anymore. It's 2005 and the
people know that there's something going
on. We may not know 100% right now, but
you better believe we're coming after
the truth and it will come out one day.
That is it for me this week. Let me know
what your thoughts are. Was George Zinn
paid to be a decoy on the day that
Charlie was shot? And if so, by who?
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>> I see this operation that we're sending
like five soldiers to the missionary
training center in Provo, Utah, and then
to the language training center to learn
to speak a language. And then we're
sending them into the field as Mos
Mormon missionaries to spy on the
populace to also establish relationships
with church members there that could
support clandestine and covert military
operations.