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Luke Barnett and Angel Barnett Share How They First Met Charlie Kirk and His Enduring Legacy
Luke Barnett and Angel Barnett recount the providential meeting with Charlie Kirk five years ago at a Latinos for Trump rally in Florida, where President Trump called out his name five times. What began with Angel pursuing him through an airplane aisle transformed into a friendship that brought Freedom Night in America to their church and eventually President Trump himself during the turbulent COVID era of 2020. In this emotional gathering, they're joined by Brandon Tatum to discuss how Charlie's mission continues, the misinformation battle surrounding his memory, and the thousands seeking Christ in the wake of his passing. The Barnetts explain why they took controversial stands when other churches remained silent, and why they believe the next great revival will be led by young people carrying Charlie's torch forward.
A Divine Encounter at 30,000 Feet
Five years ago, Luke and Angel Barnett attended a Latinos for Trump rally in Florida where they first heard the name Charlie Kirk. President Trump called out his name five times during the event, sparking their curiosity about this young influencer. Angel knew they had to meet him, but the crowd size made it impossible that night.
The next morning at 6:00 a.m., they were boarding their flight home when Angel spotted Charlie Kirk just ahead of them in line. Though exhausted, she recognized the opportunity as potentially God-ordained. Charlie was seated several rows behind them, and Angel was determined not to let the moment pass. She made approximately 16 trips to the bathroom, strategically passing by where Charlie was sleeping. For over four hours, she waited. Finally, as the plane prepared to land, she approached him.
Charlie came out of a dead sleep and was immediately engaged, never looking at Angel like she was a stalker. They discussed the women and children Angel's organization rescues from human trafficking and sex trafficking. Charlie immediately offered to connect her with his friend who could help. As the flight attendant insisted Angel return to her seat for landing, she asked if Charlie would consider coming to church the next day. He said he would.
A Man of His Word
Angel told Luke there was no way Charlie would actually show up to church. But Charlie Kirk proved to be a man of his word. He and his then-girlfriend Erika attended the service. Luke Barnett recalls watching Charlie during that first Sunday morning service, sitting about five rows back. What impressed him most was how engaged Charlie was—hands raised in worship, visibly moved to tears along with Erika. When they sat down, Charlie had his arm around her and she had her head on his shoulder. The service dealt with the question of what God has called each person to do in life, and the couple was deeply impacted.
That encounter began a journey that would include distinctive moments in time—hosting President Trump with Turning Point Action, launching Freedom Night in America, and witnessing cultural changes emerge from what the Barnetts believe was a God-ordained relationship.
The Calling He Chose
During preparations for the first Freedom Night event, Luke Barnett suggested to Charlie that he should run for Arizona senator. Charlie's response revealed the depth of his conviction about his purpose. He thanked Luke for the kind words but explained that he had a higher calling. He believed he could do more through what God had called him to do than by becoming a senator. Luke reflects that Charlie was absolutely right—he knew where God had called him and what he had called him to do, and he remained faithful to that calling.
Shortly after that conversation, Charlie approached Angel about finding a venue for his freedom rally. When she asked what size auditorium he needed, he said something around 5,000 to 7,000 seats. Angel offered their church facility without consulting her husband first. When she told Luke, his initial reaction was concern—this was during a volatile political climate, and he worried about backlash. But he decided they would be people of their word. Angel had made a commitment, and they would honor it.
The Day President Trump Came to Church
Charlie began regularly visiting the green room to talk with Luke and Angel about upcoming guests for Freedom Night events. They featured some of the largest names in the country. Then one day, Charlie arrived with news that took their breath away: President Trump was coming. Luke's immediate internal response was anxiety about the national attention and criticism that would follow. This was December 2020, during the height of COVID restrictions and intense political division.
Luke Barnett's father, who was present at the memorial gathering, reminded everyone of an important principle: there can be no great leadership without great fellowship. He emphasized that Luke and Angel couldn't have taken their stand, and Charlie Kirk could not have become who he was, without the people. If the congregation hadn't stuck with their pastor during that controversial time, none of what followed would have been possible. The people who came out to serve at rallies, who attended service after service, who stood by their church's decision—they empowered the leadership to be bold.
Standing Up When It Wasn't Popular
The Barnett family has a history of taking controversial stands. Luke's father, speaking at the memorial, recalled a Stand Up for America day he organized back in Davenport, Iowa during the 1970s hippie era when protests filled the nation. They invited the United States Army band, filled the platform with military representation, had recruiters on campus signing people up for the army, and brought in tanks and military equipment that filled the church grounds. They honored police officers during a time when protestors were calling them pigs, seating uniformed officers prominently in the service. They ran 47 buses picking up children for the event.
The next day, the front page of the Davenport newspaper featured a picture of kids climbing all over the tanks with the headline "Stand up for America with guns of war." The following Sunday, the church couldn't hold the crowd. That legacy of courage under cultural pressure shaped Luke Barnett's leadership approach decades later. When people ask where he got the backbone to stand during COVID and the 2020 election season, Luke points to his father's example.
The AI Tribute That Moved Thousands
During the memorial gathering, the Barnetts shared a unique tribute. A little girl asked AI what Charlie Kirk might say to people from heaven. Luke Barnett debated whether to show it but felt people would understand his heart in sharing it. He explained that AI takes the totality of a person's statements and projects what that person might say—an unbiased look at someone's life based only on their words.
The AI-generated message began with Charlie saying he's fine, not because his body is fine, but because his soul is secure in Christ. Death is not the end but a promotion. He urged people not to waste one second mourning him, acknowledging he knew the risks of standing up in this cultural moment and would do it all over again. The message continued with a plea not to let violence divide people further, explaining that the enemy wants chaos, fear, and retaliation. Instead, people should double down on truth, courage, faith, and family—that's how to honor him.
The tribute concluded with a reminder that America is worth it, free speech is worth it, fighting for the unborn and for families in a culture gone mad is all worth it. The final charge: dry your tears, pick up your cross, and get back in the fight with joy and strength, never letting evil think it won.
Brandon Tatum on Continuing the Legacy
Brandon Tatum, who faced significant travel delays to attend the memorial, addressed the question of how to keep Charlie's mission going forward. He began by challenging people to examine what they really believe about God. If God is truly sovereign over our lives, then we must trust that all things happen according to His plans. Though the situation is tragic and heartbreaking, God's plan is bigger than ours.
Tatum emphasized that we should view Charlie's life and legacy in proper perspective—it will continue forever. You can only kill the body but not the legacy and not the spirit. Everything Charlie did, the body of Christ must now do ten times better. Everything Charlie stood for must be elevated. For everyone who felt they didn't have a voice or were too ashamed or nervous to speak out, there's no greater time to be emboldened and speak out exactly as Charlie would have done.
Tatum encouraged young people to join Turning Point if they haven't already, continue speaking truth no matter what, be bold and courageous, and step beyond their comfort zones. Since the tragic event, approximately 12,000 inquiries for new Turning Point chapters at colleges and high schools have flooded in across America—a testament to the movement Charlie started and the inspiration his life continues to provide.
Thermostats, Not Thermometers
When asked about churches that aren't taking a stand, Luke Barnett explained that back in 2020, they had a decision to make: would they be a Micah 6:8 church or would they be a country club? Dream City Church has been known as a love boat because they operate Dream Centers and the largest human sex trafficking relief organization in North America. They're known for loving their city as the church with a heart. But they're not only a love boat—they're also a battleship. They can walk and chew gum at the same time, loving their city while standing strong on biblical values.
Luke pointed to Micah 6:8, where God rebukes the people of Israel who were doing religious activities thinking they were pleasing Him. Instead, God tells them what He expects: do justice, love mercy, walk humbly with God. Justice isn't just an idea or a feeling—it's something you do. Luke has a strong conviction that the church is never supposed to be the thermometer following the temperature set by the culture. The church is supposed to be a thermostat that sets the temperature in the culture and raises it.
He referenced the French philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville, who came to America in the 1800s searching for the source of the nation's greatness. After visiting colleges, government halls, and financial institutions, Tocqueville wrote that he only discovered America's greatness when he went into the churches, where they were thundering down truth and the principles and values of the Bible. Luke believes the church has become, in too many cases, a piggy bank or a business rather than God's business—the most important business on planet earth.
Addressing Misinformation and Defending Truth
One attendee raised the painful issue of the massive amount of misinformation circulating about Charlie—quotes taken out of context and outright lies. She asked what regular people can do when it feels like shouting into an abyss trying to defend a good man. Brandon Tatum acknowledged this is something he deals with every day online. His advice: continue to disseminate the truth, do your research, post things you know are true, and share clips that verify what Charlie really stood for. Don't buy into the nonsense.
Tatum urged people to take a breath and honor Charlie and his legacy first. While it's painful and sometimes tempting to go down conspiracy rabbit holes to avoid the reality of what happened, the focus should remain on honoring Charlie. There will be a time to critique investigations, but not while people are hurting. When people hurt, they sometimes say things they don't mean or dabble in things that aren't true. But those who knew Charlie, who watched his videos, know exactly where he stood on every issue.
Angel Barnett added that God is our defender—we don't have to defend ourselves or our character. Charlie and Erika would say "Let's make heaven crowded," and that's exactly what's happening now. The impact is global. The few who get their punches in on social media from dark, secret places—that's all they have. The real census stands with the global ripple impact of Charlie's life. The way to defend his legacy is through lifestyle, responses, education, and expanding impact. The culture has tried socialism, and Generation Z is done with it. There's a massive shift happening, and the left is nervous because they've lost control. Charlie started that shift, and it will continue.
Making Heaven Crowded
Perhaps the most powerful testimony from the memorial gathering came from the dozens of people in online chat saying they've given their lives to Christ because of Charlie Kirk specifically over the last couple of days, even that very morning. Dozens more were asking how to start a relationship with Jesus and what the next steps would be.
Brandon Tatum responded with passion, recalling when he was a young man, lost in the world, and finally made the decision after hearing the true gospel to give his life to Christ. It changed him forever. He encouraged young people watching to be ready for a life-changing experience, emphasizing that you don't have to have it all figured out—just begin taking steps in the right direction, and God will make it right. You don't have to be perfect to come to Jesus. In fact, if you were perfect, you wouldn't need a savior.
Tatum used Charlie as an example—the love he had for his wife, the family he created. Then he made a powerful declaration: you cannot kill the gospel of Jesus Christ. The cowards who thought they could end or eliminate the movement just made it bigger and stronger. People who had never heard of Charlie Kirk before are now watching his videos. His little cousin, who had dinner with him the night before the memorial, had never heard of Charlie but after watching videos said he loved him for keeping it real. People who never thought about Christ are now listening because when they go online out of curiosity to see what everyone is talking about, they hear the truth, and it pricks their hearts.
Freedom Night Will Continue
When asked whether Freedom Night in America would continue, Luke Barnett gave an emphatic yes. They're waiting to see where God takes it and for someone to rise up—someone with influence in the world to lead this charge. The implication was clear: Charlie's model and vision will not die with him. The infrastructure, the relationships, the momentum—all of it remains and will be carried forward by those who caught his vision and share his commitment to truth, freedom, and the gospel.
The memorial gathering concluded with a reminder that a larger memorial service would take place at Cardinal Stadium at 11:00 a.m. the following Sunday. Luke Barnett predicted it would likely be the biggest funeral in the history of the nation, unable to think of any other funeral that would be bigger. This speaks to the scope of impact one life can have when lived with conviction, courage, and unwavering commitment to purpose.
Video Transcript
This video was from a a little girl who
asked AI what Charlie Kirk may say to us
from heaven today.
Now, I debated whether to show this, but
I think you understand the heart of what
I'm trying to do. AI just takes the
totality of all a man's statements and
bottles them up and then projects what
that man would say. It's it's it's
really a non-biased look at a person's
life. It's only his words and and what
he might say to those who are still left
behind. I thought I'd share these words
that touched me here this week. Take a
look at this.
First, I want you to know I'm fine. Not
because my body is fine, but because my
soul is secure in Christ. Death is not
the end. It's a promotion. Don't waste
one second mourning me. I knew the risks
of standing up in this cultural moment,
and I'd do it all over again. Second, do
not let this violence divide us further.
The enemy wants chaos, fear, and
retaliation. Don't give it to them.
Instead, double down on truth. Double
down on courage. Double down on your
faith and on your families. That is how
you honor me. Third, remember this.
America is worth it. Free speech is
worth it. Fighting for the unborn, for
families, for sanity in a culture gone
mad, it is all worth it. So dry your
tears, pick up your cross, and get back
in the fight. Do it with joy. Do it with
strength. And never, ever let evil think
it won.
Let that be our charge. Amen.
[Applause]
Brandon Tatum, Officer Tatum, will be
joining us in the service. His flight
was delayed and he's trying to get here,
so he may be walking in during this
interview. But Angel, it was uh five
years ago that we met Charlie Kirk for
the same for the first time. But this is
my wife, Angel, by the way, just so you
know. Uh but we met Charlie for the
first time five years ago. What was your
experience?
>> We were at a Hispanics for Trump uh
rally in Florida. Very brave pastor
during that time period to be able to
host something like that. And President
Trump called out this young man five
times. It was Charlie Kirk. Charlie
Kirk. Charlie Kirk was like, "Who is
this guy? This not young new man." And
and I said, "We got to meet him." But we
knew there was no way we're going to get
to meet him. The the crowd and the size
of of the crowd we were never going to
get to. And um the next morning we were
on our plane. It was like 6:00 a.m. We
were going to board. And and I'm my I'm
tired. My head's down. And Luke keeps
jabbing me. I'm like, "What?" He goes,
"Charlie Kirk, it's right in front of
you." And I was like couldn't believe
the opportunity that maybe God ordained
and I do believe that now that we got a
chance to start our conversation. Well,
we had to board and he was a few seats
uh quite a few behind us and we were in
a place where we we said, "Hey, let's
meet afterwards and baggage claim." And
as we began to realize that he looks
like I can't wait. I have to record. We
cannot stay and meet him. I said,
"That's unacceptable." So, I literally
acted like I had to go to the bathroom
16 times where I knew he was sitting.
And he slept for 4 hours and 15 minutes.
I'm like, "This kid can sleep."
And so, finally, they're like, "Please
sit down, lady. We're about to land."
And so, I just time to wake up. I got to
talk to you, my friend. He came out of a
dead sleep and was immediately engaged.
Didn't look at me like I was a crazy
stalker that I was. and immediately was
interested in what I had to say. And we
were um advocating for the women and
children that we rescue and recover from
human trafficking and sex trafficking.
Immediately he's like, "I got to connect
you to my friend Yakoban. He can help
you." And so the lady's like, "Miss,
please be seated. We're landing." And I
said, "Would you consider coming to
church tomorrow?" And he said, "I will."
And we had each other's numbers. I said,
"Luke, there's no way he's coming to
church." And what a man of his word. Him
and at that time his girlfriend Erica
showed up to church. They didn't know
who we were. And a journey began that
day. Distinctive moments in time where
we were able to host President Trump and
Turning Point Action. And we wanted to
be people of our word to Charlie and
Freedom Night in America. all the the
cultural changes that begin to happen
from from that that relationship that I
do believe was God ordained.
>> You know, uh we went to a Latinos for
Yeah. Thank you.
We went to that Latinos for Trump rally
in Florida and then they had one here in
Phoenix, a Latinos for Trump at our our
Glendale campus and um I'm watching the
news that night and um I think it was
like Tucker Carlson or something like
that. And I was watching the news and
they're broadcasting this big Latinos
from for Trump from from Glendale and
they showed a picture of the face of
Latinos for Trump and this is the
picture that came on.
I'm like Angel,
is that you? And you were on there as
well. That's right. And so every time
they show a picture and watch for it,
you know, on Fox News Latinos for Trump
to this day, that picture still comes
up. I got people calling from all over
America like, "Your wife is Latino." No,
she's not Latino, but uh
Latina, thank you, Dad. During that
time, it was a it was a stressful time
for churches. Pastors really couldn't do
the right thing. If you open the church
during that time, then you were you were
killing people. If you close a church,
you didn't have enough faith. You didn't
trust the Lord. And uh it was just a
very tense time. What was your
experience? you're watching me lead
through all that. What was your
experience?
>> Well, first of all, I'd like to continue
on with your story just a minute because
that Sunday morning, I look back and our
first service is not as large as our
second one. So, you can see people real
well. And about back about five rows
back where the man with the sunglasses
is sitting was Charlie Kirk and his
wife.
And what impressed me so much was he was
into that service. His hands were raised
and his wife and they were sobbing
during the service. And when they sat
down, he had his arm around her. She had
her head on his shoulder. And I mean, it
was a very moving service. It dealt with
what has God called you to do in life.
And they were visibly moved. And I
remember the first freedom night we had,
we're getting ready to try to choose
somebody to run for senator, looking for
someone. And I said, Charlie, that ought
to be you. You could be the next senator
of Arizona. And he looked at me and
said, "That's so nice of you. Thank you.
But you know, I I have a higher calling
and I believe I can do more what God has
called me to do and to become the
senator.
And he was so right. He knew where God
had called him and for what he had
called him and he stuck with it. And
then I remember shortly after that that
he approached Angel about where could he
have his freedom rally. the first big
one, the biggest one he ever had. She
said, "Well, what size auditorium you
need?" He said, "Well, something around
57,000.
We can't find a place." She said, "Well,
we'll rent you ours." She didn't ask her
husband, you know.
And she said, "We'll let you use it."
And then she went and told Luke. And
Luke said, "Oh, no, man. I lied. Young
Republican convention. I'm going to get
it from the church. Oh my goodness." But
then he said, "You know what?
We're going to be people of our word.
Angels said we'd do it. We're going to
do it.
>> It's your fault.
>> And it's their fault." Amen. And then
shortly
And then shortly after that, shortly
after that, and this is this is very
touching, he began to come to the green
room and talk to Luke and Angel and tell
of all the guests they were going to
have. And I mean they were the largest
guests in the world. And one day he came
and said, "Luke,
you won't believe who's coming." And who
said who? He said, "President Trump."
And Luke at the very first minute said,
"Oh God, what am I going to do?" Amen.
The whole nation, they're going to be
after me. Now,
>> this is during COVID 2020, December of
love, all that was going on. So, and I
want to tell you what is because of this
lady waking him up and this man right
here sticking with his word. Come on,
say a good amen.
And all over America,
pastors and congregations
were bowing at the altar of, "Well,
there might be a few that we would lose,
but sometime you have to take a stand."
>> Amen. My dad used to say to me, "Do
right, son. Do right." And he kept
saying it. And then he put his hand up
and said, "It's always right to do
right."
One more word and I get right back to
you. And this is it.
But this could never take place. This
man, this woman couldn't take the stand.
Charlie Kirk could not have been what he
was
if it was not for the people. If they
hadn't stuck with Luke, his church, if
they had not, he could have never done
it. If you, the people that came out and
served and was in those rallies and you
came service after service,
you empowered these people. And I want
to say to you, I love you and we respect
you and we admire you because there can
be no great leadership without great
fellowship. Now give your hand a good
hand.
>> I'm going to ask our people with
microphones to get in place. If you have
a question you'd like to ask uh us here
today, please make a line and begin to
ask the questions. Other campuses who
are watching, you can there's a number
on your screen you can text questions in
as well. But this is your opportunity to
ask any question you'd like about the
church, why we took our stand, uh where
do we go from here, just questions of
that nature. But dad, while they're
getting ready and getting in line, um
people ask me a lot, where where did you
get that power, you know, to stand um
that backbone to stand? Well, it really
goes back to what I watched you do back
in Davenport, Iowa.
>> And I watched you during the 70s during
the hippie era when there were protests
going on all around. But you held a very
unique day at church. I think you called
it Stand Up for America. Can you talk
about that day? Well, briefly we invited
the United States Army band to come and
we filled the platform with it. We had a
recruiter recruiting people for the
army.
That's right. Right on campus. We had
the army to bring tanks.
We had all kinds of armory that were
filling our audience. And that day we
preached on and that was when the hippie
movement was going on. That's when they
called the police pigs. We had all the
policemen wear the uniform sitting in
the middle and we honor the policemen of
our country. And the next day, and by
the way, we ran 47 buses picking up
little children. And then exhale on the
front page of the Davenport newspaper,
there was a picture on the front page
with kids climbing all over the tanks
and the headlines read, "Stand up for
America with guns of war."
The next Sunday morning, we could not
hold a crowd. Amen. We took a stand way
back there.
>> So people ask me, I just say, "It's his
fault. He raised me this way, you know."
Hey, would you welcome Brandon Tatum?
>> Talk about a great American.
[Music]
[Applause]
>> Brandon and his dear wife and children
attend the church here. They've been
such faithful people over the years.
We're grateful that you joined us. He
has just he has just uh gone through the
grapes of wrath to get here today. So,
thank you for switching airplanes and
making it happen today. We have a first
question here. Yeah, we got dozens of
questions coming in from online. The
first one says, "What can we do to keep
making an impact and how can we keep
Charlie's mission going forward?"
>> Brandon, I'll let you answer that.
>> Well, we have to first acknowledge, you
know, what we really feel about God. Do
we really believe God is sovereign over
our lives? Do we really believe God in
his word? And if that is true, then we
know that all things that God do um is
according to his plans. And so even
though this was such a tragic situation
that happened, I'm heartbroken. I'm
trying to hold back getting emotional up
here, but I know that God's plan is
bigger than ours. And so with that being
said, we should view Charlie's life and
legacy in proper perspective. and that
is that it will continue forever. You
can only kill the body but not the
legacy and not the spirit. And and
everything that Charlie did, we have to
do 10 times better. Everything that
Charlie
stood for
as a body of Christ, we have to elevate.
for everybody that's out here that may
felt may have felt like you didn't have
a voice or you were too uh ashamed or or
too nervous to speak out. There's no
greater time than to be emboldened and
speak out and do exactly what Charlie
would have done. Okay? And I think
that's one of the ways that we can
continue his legacy. Join Turning Point
if you're a young person. Continue to
speak the truth no matter what. Be bold.
Be courageous. step beyond your comfort
zone and that's going to make us uh
better and that's we're going to have uh
uh Charlie's legacy continue that way.
>> Yeah, I think that we we've all been
watching this but I think there's been
uh 12,000 inquiries for new uh turning
point chapters at colleges and high
schools all across America. 12,000 new
requests as a result of what's happened
this past week that
[Applause]
you've always told us and told the
church, I sat under your leadership for
so many years, but you've always said,
"I'm not afraid because I believe I'm
not going to die one day earlier that
God wants me to die." And that's how you
lived your life. Would you would you
just touch on that for a moment?
>> Yes, I will. Sometime
it's easier to stand up for yourself.
When I was a young man these people's
age, it was easy for me to stand up
there and fight courageously.
Uh because first of all, I knew it was
right. Second, I expected to win. Amen.
And you know, at that age, you kind of
look forward to getting a good fight.
But I'll be honest with you now. When I
look at my children, my two sons, my
daughter, and I saw this stormy coming,
I was more reluctant than I was when I
was young. I was more reluctant for my
children, for them. And that's why I
realized with all my heart that the
fight really is to get behind the young
people, the young people in this church,
the young people in America. And
speaking of that legacy they just spoke
about, this is the age for the young
people to rise up. People are predicting
the next revival will be among the young
people leading the marriage. And I think
Charlie led that. Come on. I believe he
led that.
And uh Oh, I could go on, but that's
great. Thank you so much. Question.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yes.
>> I just wanted to say thank you. one
thing um for bringing Charlie Kirk in
here and
bringing in fright freedom night. Um I
had the um opportunity to meet him and I
volunteered here for TPS faith. So I one
of my questions is will freedom night
continue? And then my second question is
what do we do about the churches the
biblical philosophy that we stand on?
What do we do about the ones that are
not taking a stand? I I'm I'm really
stressed about that.
>> Well Well, I am too. And uh I think that
we had a decision to make back in 2020.
Are we going to be a Micah 68 church or
are we going to be a country club?
Are we going to be a love boat? We've
been known as being a love boat because
we have the dream centers and the
largest human sex trafficking relief
organization in North America. And uh
we're known for loving our city, the
church with the heart. But we're not
only a love boat, we're also a
battleship.
>> Yes.
>> And we can walk and chew gum at the same
time. We can love our city, but we can
also stand strong on biblical values.
Micah 6:8,
the people are doing I'll let you go
ahead and clap. I got
Micah
Micah 68. The people of God were doing
all kinds of things thinking they were
pleasing the Lord.
But the Lord rebukes them. And he says,
"This is what I expect of you, oh
children of Israel, that you do justice,
that you love mercy,
that you walk humbly with God." Notice
what he says. Justice is not just an
idea. Justice isn't just a feeling. I
feel like we're being just. It's He
said, "Do it. do justice. And I have
this strong conviction the church is
never supposed to be the thermometer
following the temperature set by the
culture. The church is supposed to be a
thermostat that sets the temperature in
the culture and raises the temperature
of the culture.
And look, America
in the in in the 1800s was was was
thriving. It was great. And we had a
French philosopher come over here. He
went to all the great places trying to
find find out the greatness of America
to the colleges to the government halls
to the great finance organizations. He
was trying to find out the greatness of
America. And he wrote, "I only found out
how great America was when I went into
the churches of God." And they were
thundering down with truth the
principles and values of the Bible. And
I think in so many cases, I think I was
kind of popping off a little bit
Wednesday night if you were here, but
the church is not supposed to be a piggy
bank. The church is not supposed to be
our little business. It's God's
business. It's the most important
business on planet earth. And we got to
treat it that way. So the the culture is
waiting for the church to to set that
temperature. And uh the culture is
supposed to follow the temperature of
our church. To answer your other
question about freedom night in America,
yes, it's going to continue. We're going
to see where God takes it. And we're
waiting for someone to rise up. someone
to rise up
[Applause]
as a personality that has influence in
the world to lead this charge. Amen. One
more time.
So, God bless you.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Yes. Hello. My name is Robert Norris and
I'm just kind of curious if you're going
to do something to honor Charlie Kirk
within the the church here, like name
something after him or something. Yeah,
we're doing that today in large part.
But there's a, you know, there's a uh
memorial service taking place next
Sunday at Cardinal Stadium. I believe
it's at 11 o'clock and it'll be probably
the biggest funeral in the history of
our nation. Think about it. I can't
think of any other funeral that would
bigger than this one because this man's
made an impact. But we will continue to
honor his legacy here at this church.
He's he's our one of our guys here. He's
he's here every single month teaching on
this platform and so we will continue to
raise up his honor. Yes.
>> Thank you so much for doing this first
of all. Um so right now there's like an
insane amount of misinformation out
there about Charlie quotes taken out of
context, thoughtout lies. What do we do
as just regular people who are seeing
this? And sometimes it feels like you're
just shouting into an abyss trying to
defend a good man. And I I think the
people that feel this way largely are
good and they've been aggressively
misled, but their hearts are so hardened
to hearing what we have to say about who
he actually was. And what does it look
like for us to defend his legacy against
an actual enemy trying to ruin it?
>> That's a that's an incredible question.
I deal with that every single day I'm on
the internet and I try not to get
frustrated. Sometimes I do challenge
people on the topic, but we have to just
continue to disseminate the truth.
continue to do your research. Post
things that you know that are true. Post
clips that you know uh that are are
verifications of what Charlie really
stood for and don't buy into the
nonsense. And I I want to tell everybody
here, I know that it is painful. I know
that it is tough to deal with and
sometimes it's easy to go to a
conspiracy to get your mind off of the
reality of what happened. But just take
a breath. Let's honor Charlie and his
legacy first. Let's not buy into all the
naysaying and all of those things like
that. Let's let's honor Charlie. There
will be a time where an investigation
will come through and we will be able to
critique that investigation. But don't
get too riled up. People are hurting,
too. And sometimes when they're hurting,
they say things they don't mean or they
d they dabble in the things that are not
true. But we know who Charlie is. We
know what Charlie stood for. If you've
ever watched his videos, you know
exactly where he stand on every single
issue that is a topic today. And so,
let's just remember that.
>> I would also add to that that God
defends us. He is our defender. We do
not have to defend ourselves or our
character. Especially Charlie, look at
the world and the global ripple impact.
That is where the census stands. Those
that stand behind the quiet social media
responses is is been too dark and secret
of a place for them to exhibit these
false accusations.
But know that God defends us. Charlie
and Erica would say, "Let's make heaven
crowded." They stood on that. Look at
what is happening. This is global. It is
huge. For the very few that get their
punches in, that's all they have. So if
we can honor him by our lifestyle, by
our responses, by moving, by by
educating ourselves and expanding our
impact, that is how we defend. And you
know, this culture has tried out, Jenz
has tried out what it tastes like for
socialism. They're done. It doesn't
taste good. This is why there is a
massive shift and the left is nervous
and they're concerned because they've
lost control. Charlie started that and
we will continue it.
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Next question over here. Over here.
>> Yeah, I'm reading the online chat and
there's dozens of people that are saying
that they've given their life to Christ
because of Charlie Kirk specifically
over the last couple days, even this
morning.
There's also dozens of people in the
chat that are asking, "How do I start a
relationship with Jesus? How do I give
my life to him? And once I do, what's
that next step?"
>> Officer.
>> Oh, it's a great question. Um, I love
this question because I remember way
back when when I was a young guy, lost
in this world, and I finally made the
decision after hearing the true gospel
of Jesus Christ to give my life to
Christ. And it changed me forever. And
so the young people that are watching,
be ready for a life-changing experience.
You don't have to have it all figured
out. All you have to do is begin to take
steps in the right direction. God will
make it right. God will figure it out
for you. God take those chains off of
you as you continue to go forward. You
don't have to be perfect to come to
Jesus Christ. You don't. There's not one
perfect person that will come to Jesus
Christ and be saved. If there if the
person was perfect, then there's no need
to come to Jesus, right? We need a
savior and and the young people
especially, you got to take steps in the
right direction. Let Charlie be an
example. Look at the love that he had
for his wife. Look at the family that he
created. And I'm going to tell you this,
you cannot kill the gospel of Jesus
Christ. These cowards,
these cowards thought that they could
end or eliminate the movement. They just
made it bigger. They just made it
stronger.
I know people
that have never heard of Charlie Kirk
before. Never heard of him. My little
cousin, I was at dinner with him last
night. Never heard of Charlie Kirk. He
said, "Man, I watched some of his videos
and I love that dude, man. He's just
keeping it real." People that have never
heard of Charlie is now going to hear
hear his voice. People that never
thought about Christ is going to
actually listen because they think they
can get online and disparage his
character. But there are so many people
that are so nosy that they want to see
what everybody's talking about. But then
when they hear the truth, it will prick
their hearts. And I I'll tell you, if
you've been pricricked, just follow
through. Christ will save you and it's
going to be all right.
>> Yes. Over here.
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