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Sean Ellingson Shares How In-N-Out Burger Defied California Tyranny and Stood Against Vaccine Mandates
Sean Ellingson, leadership figure at In-N-Out Burger, shares the powerful story of how his family's company became the largest corporation in California to stand against government vaccine mandates. In this conversation with Charlie Kirk and Rob, Sean opens up about his personal journey from military service and overcoming molestation and addiction to finding faith and leading alongside his wife Lindsay. He reveals the risks they took, including potential arrest, when they refused to force employees to take COVID shots, resulting in the closure of their Fisherman's Wharf location. Sean also discusses the Army of Love ministry, their commitment to combating child sex trafficking, and how the Holy Spirit guides their high-stakes business decisions while maintaining In-N-Out's Christian values.
Standing Against California's COVID Tyranny
Sean Ellingson took the stage to share an extraordinary story of faith, courage, and corporate leadership during one of the most challenging periods in recent American history. As a leadership figure at In-N-Out Burger, Sean and his wife Lindsay made the bold decision to refuse compliance with California's vaccine mandates for their employees, making In-N-Out the largest corporation in California to take such a stand.
The decision came with significant consequences. The company had to close their Fisherman's Wharf location based on principle alone. But for Sean and Lindsay, the choice was clear. As Sean explained, their awareness of what had been happening—the circumventing of legal processes for vaccine development and the broader issues at play—informed their conviction to protect their roughly 35,000 associates from being forced to take an mRNA shot.
Rob, speaking from the audience, emphasized the significance of this stand: "You were the largest corporation in California to stand against the Tyranny. Mom and Pops did. In our County alone, 65 percent of our small businesses will never reopen because they were obliterated and no large corporation stood but In-N-Out did. That empowered so many small businesses. That was a shock wave that turned the governor."
A Warrior Wife Willing to Go to Jail
Sean spoke with deep admiration about his wife Lindsay's courage during this critical time. As they discussed the potential consequences of their decision, Lindsay brought up a sobering possibility: "What if I get arrested?" She wasn't being dramatic—she genuinely said, "I'll go to jail."
Sean recalled his honest reaction: "I'm thinking, well gosh I got to take care of the kids. I mean that was the reality of what really was going through my head. I'm like oh boy, school, I gotta do all this stuff. But if that's really what you want to do, I'll support you." He emphasized that Lindsay really was willing to sacrifice to that extent to stand for principle.
"She just has this boldness inside of her and not everyone does and I understand that," Sean said. "But we need to find those people and we need to empower them. We need to equip these people so that they can take the leadership inside of the body of Christ. I think we're lacking that. I think we expect one person to do everything and that's just not the case."
From Military Service to Meeting Lindsay
Sean's path to In-N-Out and to Lindsay was marked by personal struggle and divine timing. He served in the United States Army, but his family faced tragedy during that time. His brother was on heroin on the streets right before Sean left the military, and his other younger brother had passed away from drugs.
After leaving the military, Sean met Lindsay through a dating app. Coming from humble beginnings, he quickly realized the unique position he was walking into. "I grew up with not much," Sean shared. "Coming into the relationship with her and then finding out who she was and realizing what I was kind of walking into, I really wanted to make sure that God made it clear to me if I was supposed to pursue it or not."
Lindsay had already been very strong in her faith, and Sean started attending Bible study with her. He recognized early on his role: "I kind of knew going into the relationship that I wasn't going to bring—you know, I'm not going to pay the bills, I'm not going to get a job that's going to pay more than what she's bringing to the family. And so I kind of recognized early on that I was supposed to be a spiritual leader in her life and in my kids' lives, in my family."
Healing from Childhood Trauma Through Faith
One of the most powerful moments of Sean's testimony came when he opened up about being molested as a child. It was Lindsay's persistent love and a word of knowledge from the Holy Spirit that helped him confront this dark chapter of his life.
"It really took Lindsay pushing in and having a word of knowledge from the Holy Spirit and speaking into an area of my life that was dark and I was trying to pretend wasn't there," Sean explained. "But she was relentless and she kept pushing in and because of that I faced the reality that okay, this isn't her—this is somebody that knows who I am."
Despite his fear of acknowledging what had happened, when Sean finally told Lindsay about the abuse, he experienced a profound encounter with God. "I felt so singled out in this world by God. I felt so loved by God," he said. This experience of healing became central to the Army of Love ministry that he and Lindsay would lead together.
The Army of Love Ministry
A few years before Sean and Lindsay met, Lindsay had a vision from God to start a ministry called the Army of Love. The 501(c)(3) status didn't get approved for years, but remarkably, it was approved just a week after Sean and Lindsay got married—a confirmation for them to pursue this ministry together.
"Our vision is to unite the body of Christ to set the captives free and to just equip the body of Christ to heal brokenhearted and hurting people," Sean explained. The ministry offers a discipleship program completely free to churches, asking nothing in return. They simply want to support the body of Christ.
The Army of Love has deployed significant resources toward finding the lost and helping the lost, with particular focus on ending child sex trafficking. Sean emphasized his belief in "transformational ministry and healing and counseling and allowing people to truly feel the presence and the power and the love of God."
The ministry has worked with various organizations across the nation from different denominations. Sean shared wisdom from his pastor who oversees one of these specific organizations: "It doesn't matter where they're from. If we can find common ground in certain areas, the Holy Spirit will work like a golden thread and work his way in and around and navigate through all of those differences which can be so divisive. But the Holy Spirit can do it."
In-N-Out's Christian Heritage
Many people don't realize the deep Christian roots of In-N-Out Burger. The company has a long Christian line, with bible verses printed on every single item. The Harvest Crusades with Greg Laurie were funded by the family, demonstrating their commitment to ministry and evangelism.
Sean and Lindsay's commitment to their employees reflects Christian capitalist principles. As Rob noted, they "take care of your employees, you follow a capitalistic Christian principle of providing for your employees unlike any other business I know of in California."
The company maintains strict standards for freshness—every In-N-Out Burger must be located close enough to have fresh meat delivered, and all ingredients have to be fresh. This commitment to quality limits their distribution but ensures protection of what goes into customers' bodies. As Rob pointed out, this physical principle mirrors the spiritual principle of seeking fresh manna from God's word daily.
Holy Spirit-Led Leadership
When asked about how the Holy Spirit plays into their leadership decisions, Sean described their spiritual disciplines: "We fast, we pray. We're actively involved with our church. We have a Monday night study group that we lead that we've been a part of for many years now."
He emphasized the importance of recognizing the need for the body of Christ—the eldership and the council. "The unity is so important. The Holy Spirit will reveal and lead us, but sometimes we're not so keen to following his lead or recognizing where he's leading us or what he's saying to us. And for that we need the rest of the body of Christ."
Sean shared that everything in his life personally, he couldn't do without the leading and guidance from the Holy Spirit. "There's so many crazy things going on in the world today and it is so multifaceted, it's just so hard to keep track of everything, to know how to navigate it all. And I'll tell you right now that everything in my life personally I couldn't do without the leading and the guidance from the Holy Spirit."
Living by Scripture
When asked how the word of God helped him through overcoming drug addiction, molestation, and other challenges, Sean pointed to his life verse: "One of my life verses is Mark 12:30 or Matthew 22:37—to love God with everything we have and to love our neighbor. For me, that's just the driving force on staying on track. If those are the two ultimate commandments that fulfill everything else, I've got to stay on track with that."
He explained how God's living word guides his daily life: "As I'm praying or reading and somebody comes on my mind as I'm reading something, I'm going to share that verse with them or whatever it is. Those are just kind of the things that help navigate my life."
Expanding to Tennessee and Beyond
In-N-Out Burger continues to grow, with plans to expand to Tennessee in a couple more years. Despite California's hostile environment, the company maintains its principles and continues to draw massive crowds—even at 9:00 PM at night in Santa Barbara, there are lines around the block.
When asked how the audience could pray for him, Sean's request was simple: "Just the protection—protection over my family, my kids."
Rob closed the conversation with a prayer: "Lord thank you for Sean, thank you for Lindsay. We do pray for protection for them. We pray for wisdom. If any man lacks wisdom all we need but do is ask of you God. Thank you for the way in which you've used them and the way in which you've blessed them. And Lord, he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed. They have refreshed us. We just prayed double blessing on them."
Video Transcript
okay welcome back everybody and thank
you to a wonderful team that was
impressive might work for NASCAR that
was such a quick quick quick switch uh
welcome to the stage Sean Ellingson and
uh
who here loves In and Out Burger
In and Out Burger
well Sean and his family have done an
amazing job uh growing and developing I
think you guys are now coming to
Tennessee isn't that right that is right
we will we will be here in a couple at
least a couple more years so it's
awesome rob you have some opening
thoughts yeah In and Out Burger I think
that's what was the Mana in the
scripture
uh Charlie Charlie takes me I call him
uh you've heard of Mr Toad's Wild rides
uh it's Charlie's wild rice he'll call
yeah the blue and say hey why don't you
come with me so-and-so and he said uh
come with me I want to go to a Bible
study um with the owners of in and out
and okay Charlie we get there and the
two of us are in the car and we pull up
into this cul-de-sac with a very humble
house ranch style
and we didn't know what we were getting
into and we were the first to arrive and
the folks didn't really know who we were
and Sean and his wife hadn't shown up
yet and we sit down and Sean's a teacher
and it was one of the most precious
times and Charlie and I loved it and
then Sean asked Charlie to share and
usually rich people get pitched
but the amazing thing is Sean and his
wife asked Charlie to come because they
love what he's doing and they believe in
it and then shortly after that when we
left Charlie and I were moved and we had
the chance to spend time with you and
then just like our church in and out
came under Fire by Governor New Cellini
and the tyranny and and uh you you
refused to allow your employees to have
to get a shot
and and that ended up yeah amen
so I I just I teed that up to say thank
you and and Charlie we've been blessed
by this man amen
Sean honor to call you uh a friend and a
brother in Christ just what's up what's
on your heart you know I know that you
know as a pastor and as a teacher uh
there's some things you want to share
with our audience here but
um yeah just share some thoughts and
also tell us more about kind of the the
decision you made to stand up against
the Leviathan that is known as the the
California government yeah thank you uh
for having me here today you guys and um
thank you for allowing me to be up here
um
I guess it has everything to do with our
faith
um you know I I do follow politics I was
in the same way I was always told not to
at least be involved in mixed politics
and Faith
um and so that I I struggled with that
as well
um
but I I do follow politics I do believe
in
um being aware of what's going on uh
culturally and socially and um
and so I caught wind of of what you were
doing
um I had seen you on Fox News a few
times and
um it just really stood out at that
point in my life uh when when I came
across you
um I was you know already pursuing my
faith aside from my earlier life and it
was in alignment with with so many
different values that I hold on to now
especially bringing Unity to the body of
Christ
and so
um there was this boldness in this this
courage that that was just on fire
inside of you and I admired that
um
and I and I really felt in Lindsay my
wife and I both felt that um we needed
to stand behind you uh stand with you
and try to bring this awareness to the
rest of the body of Christ
so yeah go ahead no thank you and just
that talk about the prayer that you guys
went through and the you know decision
because running a big company and taking
that stand I mean I I just hope everyone
understands that's there's risk involved
so some of you right now are running a
church you say oh I'm going to lose ties
and offerings
um how many people have heard that
they're they're running one of the most
incredible companies they had a closed
doors right you had to close in the
Fishers Fisherman's Wharf store because
of principle for saying you know what
we're not going to require our workers
to take an mnrna Gene altering shot tell
us more about that
yeah so they were uh trying to force us
to to go along with that
um I think because of our awareness of
what had been going on up until that
point
um you know circumventing all of the
legal process for the development for
vaccines uh and just so many other
things you know if if I didn't have that
awareness if we didn't have that
awareness I don't know if we would have
stood like we did
um my wife is an unbelievable
Warrior
and
you know as this was happening you know
we were trying to trying to
think about all the different avenues
that this could go and she we're sitting
there talking
um
and she's like well what if I get
arrested
and and you know she brought it up but
then she's like I'll go to jail
and I'm thinking well gosh I got to take
care of the kids like I'm gonna
I mean that was the reality of what
really was going through my head I'm
like oh boy school I gotta do all this
stuff but if that's really what you want
to do I'll I'll support you
and I'm not kidding you guys she really
was willing to sacrifice
that even to that extent to stand for
[Applause]
but like I said it has everything to do
with our faith and uh she just has this
boldness inside of her and not everyone
does and I understand that
um
but
we need to find those people and we need
to empower them
we need to we need to equip these people
so that they can take the leadership
inside of the body of Christ I think
we're lacking that I think we expect one
person do to do everything
and that's just not the case and I I
know we're all aware of that
I wanted to comment that you were the
largest corporation in California to
stand against the Tyranny Mom and Pops
did in our County alone 65 percent of
our small businesses will never reopen
because they were obliterated and no
large corporation stood but in and out
did that empowered so many small
businesses that that was a shock wave
that that turned the governor and I
don't think people realize how
significant that was
and I you talk so fondly of your wife
and um you know the in and out franchise
comes from a long Christian line many
people don't know that the Harvest
Crusades with Greg Laurie were funded
um by the the family
and um and you and Lindsay together
as husband and then you know her name
operating you have such a sweet
relationship
uh can you share with the folks with the
intensity that you face
how your relationship is so critical
especially when you're up against it and
she's saying now I'm going to go to jail
and you're like I'll watch the kids
but but there's more to it in the day in
and day out operations you're also you
take care of your employees you follow a
capitalistic Christian principle of
providing for your employees unlike any
other business I know of in California
that's to be so commended it's powerful
so please share with us how your
relationship Builds on that yeah thank
you
um you know I recognize the position
that she's in
um and the influence that she has and
the impact that she has in so many
different lives our Associates we have
just around 35 plus thousand Associates
and
um I've seen her pursue individuals
um wholeheartedly
and relentlessly
and
I've seen lives changed because of her
effort and so I I've recognized coming
into the relationship with my wife my
role uh and she's also you know brought
brought that made sure I'm aware and
reminds me uh
to be the spiritual leader in our home
and
um
and so I I understood you know
especially coming into the relationship
that
um you know I I'll back up I guess I I
met her through a dating app
and
um
yeah
it's even better than that but keep
going
so
um you know I grew up with not much
um and so coming into the relationship
with her and then finding out who she
was
um and and realizing what I was kind of
walking into I really wanted to make
sure that God made it clear to me if I
was supposed to pursue it or not
and
um she's she had already been very
strong in her faith she you know I
started attending Bible study with her
um
and so I kind of knew going into the
relationship that I wasn't going to
bring you know I'm not going to pay the
bills I'm not going to
get a job that's going to pay more than
what she's bringing to the family
um and so I kind of recognized early on
that I was supposed to be a spiritual
leader in in her life and in my kids
life uh lives in my in my my family so
um I do I do what I can to uh under you
know try to have understanding of where
what she needs to do and just support
her
now Sean talk about Army of Love and
also for those of you that know you know
look carefully when you go to In and Out
you see little bible verses on every
single
item
and I think that's just awesome by the
way and so talk about Army of Love this
is one of the most amazing things you've
deployed significant resources towards
finding the lost help in the lost but
also towards ending child sex
trafficking talk about the incredible
efforts you're doing and how you really
Steward those resources okay towards
those
um
let's see well
a few years before my wife and I met I
was serving in the United States Army I
got out
my brother was thank you
my brother was on uh on heroin on the
streets uh right before I left the
military and my other younger brother
had passed away from drugs
and so I can maybe it was an escape for
me but I left I came back
um
and within five months I met Lindsay uh
earlier before that while I was serving
she had a vision from God to start a
Ministry
called the Army of Love
and so the 501c3 status didn't get
approved for years
and then as soon as we met a week after
we got married
uh
they they approved it
and so on top of the other signs that we
had been asking for this was kind of
confirmation for us to pursue this
ministry
and so our vision is to unite the body
of Christ to set the captives free and
to just equip the the body of Christ to
heal brokenhearted and and hurting
people
um
I believe in you know the material that
we have is a discipleship program an
amazing discipleship program that we
offer for free we don't ask for anything
from any churches we're just here to
support the body of Christ we really
want to see people experience what I
experienced what Lindsay has experienced
in so many of the people in this room
have experience and that was an
encounter with the with the Lord
um I was molested when I was younger
and
um it really took Lindsay pushing in and
having uh were you know a word of
Knowledge from the Holy Spirit
and and speaking into an area of my life
that was dark and I was a and and I
wanted to pretend wasn't there
but she was relentless and she kept
pushing in and because of that I faced
the reality that okay this is this isn't
her this this is somebody that knows who
I am
[Applause]
and I'm telling you how you know how
scared I was to acknowledge that
um but when I did
I told her I just I told her what
happened
and I allowed the Lord to really just
come into my life at that point
and I felt so singled out in this world
by God I felt so loved by God
and it you know after reading a lot of
the Army of Love material that we have
it kind of just validated everything
about the process of my healing and the
necessity of of that healing in the body
of Christ I'm a very I'm a firm believer
of transformational ministry and healing
and counseling
and allowing people to to truth
truthfully uh truly feel the presence
and the power and the love of God
John that was precious
Sean when I was a young youth pastor and
I didn't know my elbow from my earlobe
we'd put on a youth event and a limited
budget I didn't have two nickels to rub
together
on a whim I wrote a letter to I think
it's uh Lindsay's Grandma Esther
and I asked if they would provide
burgers for the the Youth Event
and elderly handwriting she wrote back
yes dear and she sent two Burger trucks
and took care of the lunch and
I was blown away and I never had the
privilege to meet her I wrote her a
thank you note
but I never had the privilege to thank
her face to face and when we went to
that bible study
I had already seen the video of your
wife where I am second
and how the the company ended up in her
hands
and the struggle she went through with
her dad and and I thought
this is an amazing human being that's
got a lot on our shoulders
um and and when Charlie and I walked in
I was looking forward to meeting her and
then I told her about her grandmother
and how grateful I was and then to see
her but then to meet you and to see the
two of you together understanding the
power of Christ regardless of all
because money is a money's an accelerant
it just makes you more of what you
already are
but the two of you together have such a
love for the Lord and you understand
how to make a difference and you
understand the value of this nation and
the freedom that we have
I don't have a question I said all of
that
from the bottom of my heart to say thank
you to you and your wife and your entire
organization you've blessed us
immeasurably
thank you thank you Rob
so Sean you have a beautiful thing you
were talking about earlier about the
holy spirit being the kind of the golden
thread that binds everything together
share that with us come on you know with
the Army of Love we've worked with
different Ministries and organizations
and helped their staff and Leadership
who sometimes feel like they can't talk
about anything without jeopardizing
their livelihoods losing their positions
their jobs
and so we've had we've gone into these
organizations we've we've recognized
that there's you know sometimes pastors
that are put into some of the programs
like this uh that we that we deal with
that are from all across the nation from
all different denominations and my
pastor
who pastures over one of the specific
organizations
has told me that it doesn't matter where
they're from if we can find common
ground in certain areas in the holy
spirit will work like a golden thread
and work his way in and around and
navigate through all of those
differences which you know can be so
divisive but but the Holy Spirit can do
it
and so
um
I think that's that's one thing too is
just like for us is is the power of the
Holy Spirit like there's so many
like crazy things going on in the world
today and it is so multifaceted it's
just so hard to keep track of everything
how to
you know to know how to navigate it all
and I'll tell you right now that
everything in my life personally I
couldn't do without the leading and the
guidance from the Holy Spirit
you know Sean I I was just thinking here
I was running into some of you in the
hallway and we did a whole show on this
today
just it's tough to look at the current
corporate landscape and it just hit me
as you were talking Sean you know Target
and you know all these companies one
after the other isn't it refreshing to
have a major company that actually
stands for truth with leadership I mean
it's just
it's not all lost is what I'm getting at
right it's really it's really something
shown and so to talk about how the Holy
Spirit plays into your leadership
decisions and you and Lindsay and what
does that look like what are the
spiritual disciplines you include in in
high stakes decision making
uh well we fast we pray
um you know we're actively involved with
our church or we have a Monday night
study group that we that we lead that
we've been a part of for many years now
and
um I think one of the most important
things is recognizing the need for the
body of Christ
uh just the eldership and the council
um in the in the unity is is so
important the Holy Spirit Will Reveal
and lead us
um but sometimes we're not so Keen to
following his lead or recognizing where
he's leading us or what he's saying to
us
and uh for that we need the rest of the
body of Christ
well we're limited on time I was going
to point yeah if you want to clap on
that I think we've got time for
collapping that's for sure
now I've heard that it said that every
In and Out Burger must uh be located
close enough to have fresh meat
delivered all ingredients have to be
fresh
and and I was you know that's that's
impressive because it limits your
distribution and you know everyone frees
it and it's a protection on that which
goes into our body and you guys look for
the freshest of ingredients I say that
because as you're describing how the
Holy Spirit works in your life
and and spending time in the word of God
that that's got to be fresh Manna that's
got to be a time with the Lord where he
speaks to you through his word and um
and I think at least you know we can
conclude with this I Charlie and I were
both impressed with your your teaching
ability and then we broke out remember
we broke out men in one room women in
another I mean it was like a Jewish
wedding the press this is going to be
awful
but it was it was uh it was there was
such a love for the word of God and I
know that plays a huge role in your life
you've overcome a drug addiction yeah
molestation the Bible says be
transformed by the renewing of your mind
how is the word of God helped you
through every step of that especially
when I mean I know it's like to go
through withdrawals I know it's like to
go through those times
how did God speak to you through his
word share with some of these folks so
that we can take that and give God the
glory at the conclusion of our time
together
yeah thank you um well I would say and
you shared the verse already one of my
my life verses is Mark 12 30 or Matthew
22 37 to love God with everything we
have and to love our neighbor
and
um
you know for me that's that's just the
driving force on on staying on track is
if those are the two ultimate
Commandments that fulfill everything
else it's um you know I I've got to stay
on track with that
and um you know there's the Bible is
full of other verses that help us day to
day right and his word is living and and
so you know as I'm praying or reading
and and somebody comes on my mind as I'm
reading something I'm going to share
that verse with them or whatever it is
um
those are just kind of the things that
help you know that that navigate my life
let's have him praying yeah I was going
to say
um Sean how can we pray for you because
you're you're you're unique to tell us
it's like a unicorn really I know but I
just you know what
courage begets courage right and I can
tell you this I was just recently in
Santa Barbara and despite all you cannot
you at 9 00 pm at night there is a line
around the block to go to In and Out
Burger I could tell you and I and uh
come to Kentucky is that what you said
you hear that I I think in and out has
some big growth potential Sean really
quick and how can we pray for you as as
we conclude here uh just the protection
protection over my family my kids
thank you thank you Sean you're a
brother in Christ and we are immensely
blessed by your courage and your
family's courage thank you and Rob let
me pray for him yes Lord thank you for
Sean thank you for Lindsay we do pray
for protection for them we pray for
wisdom If any man lacks wisdom all we
need but do is ask of you God thank you
for the way in which you've used them
and the way in which you've blessed them
and Lord he who refreshes others will
himself be refreshed they have refreshed
us we just prayed double blessing on
them and God thank you for this
Gathering and and it's all about you you
are the guest of honor we thank you for
your presence in Jesus name amen give it
up for Sean