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our good friends at Angel [music]
Studios. I love Angel Studios. Amazing
new film This [music] Holy Week.
Phenomenal. In fact,
>> as I think about Charlie's life and how
much of a support he was of Angel, it's
hard not to [music] feel so grateful for
what he did. He supported us in our
darkest days and in our brightest
[music] hours as a company. Man, are we
grateful to have gotten to be a little
connection in the multitude [music] of
connections that he made throughout his
life because it was so impactful to us.
Thank you, Charlie. [music]
Love you. We miss you. We're going to
continue to drive forward the good news.
All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk
show. It's election day, so here we are
starting the day out. We're also going
to be finishing the evening out uh with
live updates. We're going to be
streaming this evening. So, check us out
on all the Charlie Kirk show uh
platforms and socials and we'll make
sure you uh have access to that. Of
course, we're going to have our
starstudded team, our election day team
in and and Blake. No, in uh in honor of
Charlie Kirk and and those uh of us
gathered around this table right now
understand that Charlie loved election
night streams and you the audience tuned
in by the droves to hear Charlie do it.
So we're going to honor Charlie. We're
going to uh remember him, honor his
legacy and we're going to be right here
again tonight. So set your uh clocks.
What? We're going to start at 7:30
Eastern. Correct. That's when we're
starting the stream. 7:30 Eastern,
>> I think. I think maybe 6:30 Eastern. you
may
>> you know that's the mountain time this
yeah 6:30 Eastern I apologize um so glad
I did that Jack Bobic Human Events daily
host joining us today he's in town this
week as well as Blake Nef back from
assignment always good to have you buddy
you know I want to open just before we
forget about it okay we're going to be
talking about New Jersey we're going to
be talking about Virginia we're going to
be talking about New York but there are
a lot of other places you could be
voting if you haven't voted yet if you
live in Minneapolis your mayor is up
today you've got gross Jacob Fry but
He's running against Omar Fate, the kind
of Somali goblin looking guy versus
grosser. Vote in that California. We
have Prop 50 is it where to jerrymander
the state. You could vote in that if
you're one of our many California
people. All of you guys were always
begging, Charlie, get more involved in
California. That is a race you guys
could make a difference in.
>> Such a good point. And by the way,
Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
>> Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Listen, this
show has a has a huge audience in a lot
of different parts of the country, but
actually, weirdly enough, the
California, it's partly just because
there's so many people in California,
but we also have great radio spread in
California. The we have a huge audience
California. And so, to your point,
Blake, uh, Prop 50, uh, is it yes or no,
Blake?
>> Oh, man. I can't remember. I think I
believe it's no, I'm going to give you
the answer. I didn't mean to put you on
the spot. It's vote no on Prop 50. Um
there's been a I mean this is basically
to reverse a referendum vote where the
state of California by the way. You know
what's what's hilarious about this Prop
50 thing is that they set up an
independent commission. Arnold
Schwarzenegger of all people has been
out uh loud and proud on this uh saying
vote no. And I appreciate his efforts.
You know whatever you know past
disagreements we might might have he's
right on this. And you know, even the
independent commission has been
radically corrupted because remember,
you get mostly Democrats that are on the
independent commission. So it I you
know, it's better than Prop 50, but even
the independent commission could use a
lot of work. That's that's the bottom
line in in a state like California. But
Jack, we let's let's turn our sites to
the east. Okay. So we've got the three I
was four biggest uh areas of focus is
going to be Chidarelli and New Jersey.
So, vote for Chitterelli. Uh, we've got
Virginia, we've got Winom Sears, and
then we gota you I mean and the AG race,
which is actually probably the the
closer of the two. We got you. So, if
you're if you're thinking Winom Sears
can't win and that's not it's not worth
going out. Put those thoughts aside. You
need to put those thoughts aside because
here's the deal. Everybody needs to get
out, pull the trigger for uh Winom
Sears. That's probably the worst analogy
I could use uh when that in that race,
but you need to vote for Winome. You
need to get out and vote for Winome and
then we want we also need to get the AG
race over the top and and that one
really has a chance big time, I would
say. Uh I don't know where the
prediction markets are, but we need to
we need everybody in Virginia to be
think positive thoughts, get out to the
polls and uh make sure that the top cop
in that state does not uh end up being J
uh Jay Jones who is uh a real problem
who has you know fantasized and
fetishized the murder of his political
opponents as well as their children.
This cannot be so Jay Jones must be
defeated must be defeated soundly. the
good people of Virginia get out to the
polls that so we've got New Jersey
Chidarelli, we've got Virginia, we've
got Mdani versus Quuomo. There's been
some big moves in that race. The Jack
there there is some uh I would say
movement in the fact that Elon Musk has
come out and endorsed Cuomo. Uh
President Trump has come out and
endorsed Quomo. Now Zoron is saying this
is a reason to vote for me, of course,
which is exactly what you'd expect him
to do. Do do we see any signs of life
for the Quuomo camp? I mean, because
there's different areas of thought here.
There's different schools of thought
saying that Zoron's outpaced and we we
just can't catch up with him or are we
seeing this race race tighten?
>> Well, I I before before I answer and and
you know, we are seeing there some signs
of that. But there is one thing that I
do want to say is that for all the
people who will be voting today and all
the people who need to be voting, there
is one person who will not be voting
today and there is a person who voted
every single election but this for the
first time I think I guess since he
turned 18 who will not be voting today
for the first election and his name is
Charlie Kirk. Charlie will not be voting
today. Charlie should be sitting right
here today covering down on the election
day coverage today and then all night on
the super stream which was and we all
know this. It was his favorite night of
the year was election night. All right.
He absolutely loved doing this. That's
why we're going to keep the tradition
going and be here. Tyler will be here as
well. But Charlie Kirk will not be
voting tonight. And Charlie Kirk will
not be hosting tonight. And we know why.
Because a violent leftist stole that
right from him. A violent leftist stole
that right to vote, his right to freedom
of speech, his right to everything. And
so for everybody out there, go out and
vote today and do it for Charlie.
>> Amen. Do it for Charlie. And by the way,
I'd be remiss if we didn't mention the
uh vote against retention. Uh
Pennsylvania.
>> Yeah. So it's no no. So the way these
these races are, it's no no. So P,
you've got and you got race. Look,
everyone everyone's got an election. Go
out and vote today. Obviously the races
are closed there. You mentioned the AG
race. I pulled that up on the prediction
markets and believe it or not about a
couple of it looked like yesterday the
race really tightened up just as of last
night it tightened up from like you know
so uh suddenly the Republican Jayce
Miari's flute I'm looking on KI he
dropped way down to almost 50% and it
looked like the Democrat Jay Jones was
ticking up to above 50% at one point
this is the prediction markets on Khi
right and then but now all of a sudden
today as of uh 11:00 a.m. East Coast
time and I guess it's noon east coast
time that suddenly now uh Jason Mores is
pulling away with it. He's now back up
to about 57%. So there was this strange
tightening and now you know a diving out
on the New York race which is the one
you asked me about and I'm not going to
be one of those guys who doesn't answer
questions. We saw some really
interesting data out of Khi and I got
this from New Jersey as well that even
though it looked as though Mandami was
going is running away with it. If you
break it down to Khi traders who have
come in on from New York only, so if you
parse out the data and say, okay,
everyone who's outside of New York City,
we're going to we're going to take that
out. Suddenly Cuomo is up nine points.
Well, and I want to say this too, and I
know I know we that's a really
interesting so insiders inside the city
are actually more bullish on Quuomo and
we have seen we saw that poll from Atlas
that came that showed that the race was
tightening in the final stretch here
that Cuomo was making up some ground.
Zoron was not putting his best foot
forward. This is something we talked
about with Mark Halprin actually last
week that you know sort of this
grievance politics, the the guilting
Cuomo about not visiting a mosque or
whatever. These were not good looks.
Something about Zoron's uh his mojo has
been off here in the final final uh
stretch of this race and he's he's
looking very very vulnerable. He's not
talking like a winner. he's not talking
like somebody or the contrary to that
the the other opinion would be that he
is assuming that he's going to win and
the mask is fully off but regardless
Atlas has the race very much within
striking distance which is which is you
know listen if we could get one miracle
today well listen I'll take all three
this morning we woke up uh here in
mountain time so 2 hours off of east
coast I'm going to get this right we
just switched actually in Arizona or
Arizona didn't switch the rest of the
world did that's how it works. Um, so
we're getting our time zones sorted
here, but there was bomb threats in it
looks like seven different counties in
New Jersey. And what's hilarious about
this is that you have Zoron mom Donnie
claiming that this would be the work of
Trump. And we'll explain why that
doesn't make any sense at all in just a
second. Let's go ahead and play 159.
>> Incredibly concerning. And I think that
it is an illustration of the attacks
we're seeing on our democracy. Sometimes
they're blatant and explicit in the
manner of these bomb threats. And we
have to understand this as part of the
general approach the Trump
administration has taken to trying to
intimidate voters.
So he says we have to understand this as
part of the approach that the Trump
administration has taken to try and
intimidate voters. So Jack,
riddle me this. Are more conservatives
or Democrats voting on election day?
>> Uh it is typically more conservatives.
So, it's going to be your Republicans
and that it's going to be your
conservative independents.
>> So, so does it make any sense then that
Trump would be responsible somehow for
bomb threats on election day in New
Jersey?
>> No. And what you're seeing here is of
course the guy who, you know, is the
leading candidate to be the next mayor
of New York City immediately when given
the opportunity, what does he do? He
attacks and demonizes his political
opponents. This is the same thing that
we saw Jimmy Kimmel do, by the way, in
the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder. He
immediately said that it was a MAGA guy
who did this. And so what are we seeing
again from and and again we were told,
oh the, you know, the left doesn't do
this. The left doesn't demonize. We need
to unite. We need to do all of it. Well,
here you go. This guy, by the way, he is
going to be and and if he wins, by the
way, and and I'm going to throw down the
marker right now. If he wins the New
York City's mayor race, he will be the
Democrat front runner for 2028, for the
presidential election.
>> I agree. And immediately immediately
what's he do? He demonizes his opponents
and blames his opponents for political
violence when we don't have any facts
whatsoever right now. We do know that
there's been a lot of political violence
lately uh done by the political left. We
could ask Charlie about that, but of
course he's not here to join us and be
able to to have that discussion because
of the political left. And so, by the
way, we got these great um we got these
great uh
>> I voted
>> stickers and I think we have this this
clip from where is it? If you guys want
to pull it up, it's oh, it's just a
picture 167
um that we have up and the they're post
people are posting these up across New
Jersey right now. I voted to honor
Charlie Kirk. And in fact, because I was
in New Jersey, I have bunch of them
right here. So, I voted to honor Charlie
Kirk.
>> Dr. Oz, can you hear me? Are you uh are
you seated? You ready?
>> Seated ready in my office actually in
Washington. I'm anxious to see what
you're going to see about the election.
>> Yes, absolutely. Well, this is this has
been a um a really it's an honor to have
you on. I know you came on the Charlie
Kirk show multiple times with Charlie
both when you were running for Senate
and then uh later on as you've been part
of the admin. Um you Charlie would be
here unfortunately if you can get the
wide shot. We have his open chair here.
Jack just did a beautiful tribute to
Charlie that Charlie would be begging
everybody across the country to vote
vote vote vote vote um in New Jersey, in
Pennsylvania, in Virginia, in New York
City, and unfortunately he's not here
today. So sir, the floor is yours. I
know you had a personal friendship with
Charlie. You texted often, and I just
want to give you the opportunity to to
remember him in your own words.
>> Well, kudos to you for carrying on the
legacy. Uh I spent a lot of time with
Charlie. He was very helpful. Uh we got
to know him quite quite well during the
campaign, but we also stayed I saw him
the last time here in Washington in June
and we're going to do a show um we were
at at a meal together and we but the
bombing of Iran happened so we said well
you know we'll do it in September and it
speaks to u the unfortunate reality that
life is so unpredictable. Uh I'm not
going to take everyone through the
trauma of that whole experience.
Obviously, I joined the president when
we flew out to to the event in Phoenix,
which was one of the that top, you know,
memorable moment in my life, and I've
had lots of interesting experiences. But
I think it speaks to the power uh that
Charlie and the whole movement has had
in waking people up uh to to the some of
the dishonest narratives that we've been
tricked with. But it sort of goes back,
I think, very fundamentally to
respecting some of those Judeo-Christian
traditions that so often have guided us
into successful relationships, raising
wonderful families, uh, living in
communities that are functional. And
when we don't honor some of those basic
principles, we run into trouble. And on
this election day, uh, one of the many
things that's, uh, being evaluated is
what's this this government shutdown.
And I thought I'd use this maybe as a
jumping point to speak to those very
values that Charlie would and you and
others would speak to. We are in a
nation uh that treasures work. We
believe in our country um that business
is good uh and you want to work in
business and you want to do good things
for your community through those
businesses and build value in society
and do things that fix problems. all the
things that um that many of us grew up I
think believing was incumbent uh to our
our opportunity as Americans.
>> Yeah.
>> And many people came from other parts of
the world because they know uh and found
out that America actually still does
those things that their country stopped
doing like go to work, play a role in
improving society, have agency over your
own life uh because it matters. God put
you here to do something. Uh and
whatever that thing is, go out and do
it. So when we faced as we came into the
the administration a reality that
Medicaid was basically insolvent because
of some of the things that had been done
during the pandemic but some of that
predated the pandemic as well. We had
generated a system that just was not
going to be uh functional for much
longer. That would put our most
vulnerable at risk. I'm sitting in the
Humphrey building in Washington right
across from the capital. you walk into
our building there's a quote from Hubert
Humphrey and it says it's the uh this
you know he uses letter as a metaphor it
is the moral obligation of government he
says it's moral obligation of all of us
to take care of those at the dawn of
life children those at the twilight of
life the seniors and those who are
living in the shadows now again that
haunting metaphor is powerful it's it
feels almost biblical so if you're going
to protect our most vulnerable you can't
allow fraud waste and abuse to strip it
of vitality. So the president very
directly told me to preserve for example
Medicare. Don't touch Medicare, don't
hurt the the folks who are vulnerable on
Medicaid, but take the fraud, waste, and
abuse out of the system. We have been
doing that and we're going to continue
to do that. And the Democrats have shut
down Washington, shut the government
down because they believe that the one
big beautiful bill which codified many
of the things that make sense to clean
up Medicaid and protect it for the most
vulnerable were wrong. They want to, for
example, allow illegal immigrants to
continue to get funded for their health
care benefits. This fundamentally
changes the equation. Democrats don't
like there's a work requirement. But we
tell people, fine, if you're in
difficult spot, we'll pay for your
healthare, but you need to actually try
to get a job. And if you can't get a
job, go volunteer somewhere. Go take
care of somebody. Go get an education.
Do something to reinforce what you
should know deep down inside, which is
God's got a plan for you. And go act on
it. And these are fundamental
differences in how folks are seeing the
future of this country. I believe
because work is so fundamental to who
you are that we should have a work
requirement. I believe that if you're an
American citizen, you should get support
for your healthcare. But illegal
immigrants coming here and induced to
stay here because they're given free
healthare. That should not be part of
the equation. Certainly the federal
government should not be paying for
that. And we know, for example, and just
not to get into too much of the weeds
here, that there are some states,
there's six in the country, six out of
50 states allow separate money to be
paid to illegal immigrant healthcare
from their state budgets. They claim,
they claim. And of course, that allows
them to recruit and retain illegal
immigrants despite what federal law is
around coming across borders illegally.
And they think that's okay. And now we
are just identifying breaking news. I'll
share it with you that we believe is
over a billion dollars that has been
taken from federal tax money to support
these programs. In fact, they're
starting to pay us back. So, I'm pretty
sure we're right.
>> Wow. Well, that's that's breaking news.
So, a billion dollars you've identified
that's basically fraud. It's basically
fraud that that the states are using
improperly. So, I I wanted to play a
clip for you and and I do think it's
election related because, you know,
there is uh some polling out there that
would indicate that the American people
want to focus more on domestic issues,
more on cost, healthcare, things like
that, as opposed to foreign issues,
foreign policy. And I I certainly share
that that belief. But one of the reasons
that I think this resonates is because
Democrats messaging, and I I I hate to
say it, but I think it's been a little
bit more disciplined in this especially
this election runup than some of the
Republican counterparts. They are
talking about healthcare and I wanted to
play this clip for you from Rachel Matto
and they're and it's in relation to the
government shutdown where she's
basically saying well if you strip these
subsidi subsidies out of Obamacare the
ACA then all these costs are going to go
up for Americans right now we
Republicans have been warning about
these subsidies for years that they're
they're going to make Medicaid and
Medicare insolvent in the long run. But
I want you to get give you a chance to
respond to this and debunk this 137.
Look at these numbers from from the New
York Times tonight based on the newly
posted information, meaning the pricing
information that's now being posted in
multiple states. A family of four making
$130,000
in Maine. So you combine the family's
income, everybody's salaries, you got to
do $130,000.
That family would face an increase in
their annual health insurance premiums
next year of $16,100.
That's how much their health insurance
premiums would go up. This is what
Democrats have been drawing the line
about in this shutdown, telling
Republicans that this is the thing they
need to fix.
>> Dr. Oz, this is your your world. Uh
respond to Rachel Maddo because that
that clip on Facebook, by the way, had
like a 100,000 likes. So if a lot of
people are seeing it,
>> so President Obama, who [clears throat]
created the Affordable Care Act, right?
it's called Obamacare. When he uh pushed
through Congress in a very partisan way
the Affordable Care Act, there was
funding for people who are at the
poverty level. The question then
becomes, how do you define the poverty
level? Well, they defined it as four
times more than poverty. So, if poverty
level, let's make a number up, is
16,000, make the math simple. Make it
$20,000 the poverty level, then four
times that for an individual, $80,000 is
how much they were willing to cover.
They weren't going to cover five, six,
seven, eight times the poverty level.
They just had to pick a number. We all
do. So Obamacare did not cover people
who are making more than four times the
poverty level. And for that reason, when
they added these COVID benefits, and
they were purely added because we're in
a pandemic and a war, and they were
added for a very short period of time,
and they were set to end when the
pandemic ended. Are we out of the
pandemic? We're out of the pandemic. We
should not have pandemic era wartime
rules when we're at peace. So the
Democrats wrote the law. It expires at
the end of this year. And so it's their
decision. They knew it was supposed to
expire. Original Obamacare never covered
people making four times Medicare.
Rachel Matto just picked an example of
someone who's making whatever it was
$150,000 a year who was making more than
four times Medicare. Therefore, there
were not ever eligible for Obamacare.
and she's complaining that what was done
during CO as a stop gap measure to deal
with the pandemic um is not being
expiring. So that's a problem for the
Republicans. We were even willing even
willing despite all that to negotiate
and talk about some of these issues. But
only if we find a true solution to the
fundamental flaws in in a broken system.
Obamacare pricing has increased so much
faster than anyone ever imagined. It is
becoming unaffordable even when the
government's paying for it. But that's
not what the Democrats wanted. They want
to hold us hostage. At the last moment,
they say, "Forget about it. If you don't
with a gun to your head agree to extend
all these subsidies and just pay, forget
about dealing with the cost. Just pay
for it. We're going to hold you up." And
the president very wisely, very bravely,
together with congressional leadership
said, "No, we are not going to be
extorted. You guys caused this problem.
It's your issue. We will help you fix
it, but don't blame it on us." And yet
the legacy media, New York Times, good
example. They tell stories that are
literally like Asop's fables. Okay, I
want to play this clip really quick uh
because we got a lot of elections going
on, but again, this is a this is an
election season that will be determined
by domestic issues. Play cut 55.
>> The reason you have this the standoff is
because if the hundreds hundreds of
billions of dollars uh to create a
financial incentive to like to have this
giant magnet to attract illegals from
every part of Earth to uh to these
states. If if that is turned off, they
the the illegals will leave because
they're no longer being paid to come to
the United States and stay here.
>> Wow. And then then then they will lose a
lot of voters. So this is the this is
why I played this clip. It's because
this is a fundamental dynamic that
you're seeing play out between left-wing
messaging, right-wing messaging. This is
not about common sense or logic. It's
about emotions.
>> It's not ideology.
>> No, this is not ideology. This is about
you're mean and you're you're trying to
hurt people and take take their
healthcare away. And the Republicans are
saying there's illegals on it. We can't
afford it.
>> Well, and and Blake, we you know, we
definitely used that line. So Blake was
was on assignment yesterday, but he had
he had given us this line in the uh in
the group chat yesterday and we used it
the gimmigrins. And it's it's just very
clear this this is the gimmigrins. And
we realized that because we now have
this massive and in a place like New
York City, which is the model, the
Mandami model is what they want to
expand across the entire country.
>> The mandami model explicitly is white
people so you can take their money and
give it to resentful brown people. By
the way, that is how he frames it.
That's his framing. I remember Charlie
actually tweeted about that and there
was like a whole community note thing.
He was like, "No, that's not true. It's
uh white people and richer
neighborhoods. It wasn't just about but
it's like in his platform his his his
policy platform to say tax whiter and
richer
>> neighbor. I just want this piece of crap
shipped back to Uganda so badly.
>> Well, I mean
>> is this
there's this clip of of Jay Jones.
They're saying that about the dog.
>> I'm having the I'm having the team.
>> Are you seeing this thing about he
almost kicked a dog? Well, I mean we
know how he feels about children.
>> No, this is this is interesting. Yeah.
Jay Jones. uh just uh attempted to kick
a dog outside a Virginia polling
station.
>> You're supposed to you're supposed to
kiss babies and pet dogs when you're a
politician.
I tell we have the clip what he wants to
do with babies. So
>> yeah. Yeah, he's No, I'm saying that's
what I'm saying. He's got the opposite,
you know, the opposite take on both
apparently.
>> But like, you know, there's that great
great clip from Tim Cup. I like the
movie Tim Cup. It's Kevin Cosner. It's a
golf movie. Charlie hated golf, but he
and I disagreed on that. But there's
this moment where it's where he's
talking about the What's that?
>> You're a romcom guy, Andrew. You big
romcom guy.
>> I don't know if I'm a romcom guy, but I
like Tin Cup. So, check it out.
[laughter] So,
>> it's it's a golf movie. Anyway,
>> it's a romcom.
>> Basically, the villain in Tin Tin Cup,
like they they say he hates dogs.
>> Only bad people hate dogs.
>> Wait, that's uh that's um the uh the
Jack Good as it gets too, right?
>> All right. Here it is. Jack 178.
>> May he rest. May he rest and may he wake
up tonight when you get this sweet.
>> Goodbye.
>> Say byebye.
>> See you soon.
>> So for for people on the on the on the
audio side, I mean he he looks like he's
about to kick the dog. He swings his I
mean Blake, what's your take? You're
always like Mr. Skeptic. What What's
your take on this?
>> That was a weird
>> That was a weird
>> kick, but it's just a weird thing to do.
>> It's just uh you know,
>> it's a voter's dog. It's not his dog.
>> He wanted to pet it with his foot.
[laughter]
Sounds like something that would make
sense to him. Maybe
>> he he wanted to pet it with his with his
patent his patent leather shoes there.
>> Rub his shoe on it or something.
>> I bet. But okay, but the guy fetishizes
about murdering his political opponents
and and their kids.
>> It's the only way to change people's
views. He said
>> it's the only way to change people.
Let's debate them. No, he should. They
must feel pain before they change their
views.
>> And by the way, guess who guess what
Charlie's killer said about him? Some
hate you just can't negotiate.
>> Some hate you can't negotiate out.
>> Sounds weirdly similar. And then here's
Jay Jones who's campaigning to be the
top cop in Virginia, the Commonwealth,
and he just randomly
instinctively tries to kick a dog.
>> Very strange.
>> It's almost like when people show you
who they are, we should believe them.
>> You should believe them. And look at
that.