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Tyler Robinson's T-Bone Collision at Intersection: Officer Matthew McRae Investigates Disputed Yellow Light Crash with Conflicting Witness Accounts
Officer Matthew McRae responds to a T-bone collision at an intersection where determining fault proves challenging. A driver making a left turn collides with Tyler Robinson's vehicle traveling straight through the intersection. With a third-party witness claiming the light turned green right as the crash occurred, conflicting statements from both drivers, and the critical timing window between yellow and red lights creating ambiguity, the officer faces a dilemma. The investigation reveals the complexities of intersection accidents when split-second timing and witness perception make it nearly impossible to definitively establish whether the through-traffic ran a red light or the turning driver failed to yield. Despite pressure to issue citations and one driver's admission of fault, Officer Matthew McRae ultimately decides to let the insurance companies determine liability.
The Initial Response and Witness Account
Officer Matthew McRae arrives at the scene of a T-bone collision at a busy intersection. Before speaking with the drivers, he interviews a third-party witness who observed the entire incident. The witness explains she was in the left-hand lane traveling straight when she saw the black car making a left turn collide with another vehicle going straight through the intersection. She provides critical information: the light turned green for her direction right when the collision happened, suggesting the turning driver may have been trying to quickly complete the turn before the light changed.
The witness clarifies that both vehicles were in the intersection when the impact occurred. This detail becomes important as the investigation unfolds, raising questions about the timing of when each driver entered the intersection relative to the traffic signal changes.
Assessing the Drivers and Their Conditions
Officer Matthew McRae approaches the driver of the vehicle that was making the left turn. The driver appears shaken up and reports multiple injuries including a ringing left ear, sore hip, and shoulder pain. Despite these complaints, he declines immediate medical attention. The officer requests his driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance, noting that the vehicle's airbags deployed in the collision.
The driver of the other vehicle, traveling in the rightmost lane going straight, reports he was just entering the intersection when it turned yellow. He states the other driver turned left directly into his path, resulting in him T-boning the side of the turning vehicle. Neither he nor his passenger report any injuries. The driver's mother is en route to provide insurance information that the young driver doesn't have readily available.
Conflicting Statements and the Admission
As Officer Matthew McRae continues his investigation, he discovers that one of the occupants of the vehicle traveling straight made statements at the scene admitting fault. The passenger, who is the driver's brother, reportedly told the other driver multiple times: "I'm sorry. It was my fault. It's totally my fault." When questioned about this admission, the passenger explains he was just trying to be nice and said "it wasn't your fault, it was our fault, we were both messed up" when checking on the other driver immediately after the crash.
This complicates the investigation, though Officer Matthew McRae recognizes that the passenger's statement may not carry the same weight as the actual driver's account. The officer needs to reconcile the various versions of what happened with the physical evidence and witness testimony.
The Critical Timing Question
The investigation hinges on a crucial question: what color was the traffic light when each driver entered the intersection? The driver making the left turn claims he entered on yellow, waited in the intersection, saw cars slowing down, and thought he was safe to complete his turn. He suggests the other vehicle may have been partially hidden in the furthest lane, blocking his vision.
The driver traveling straight states he looked at the light just before reaching the intersection and saw it turn yellow maybe a second or so before he reached it. He was going the speed limit and believed he was close enough that braking would have left him stopped in the middle of the intersection. He noticed a vehicle in the lane next to him slowing down significantly but didn't understand why at the time.
The third-party witness adds another dimension: she saw her light turn green right as the collision happened. This detail is significant because there's typically a delay of a few seconds between one direction's light turning red and the perpendicular direction's light turning green. This buffer period is designed to prevent exactly this type of collision.
Officer Matthew McRae's Analysis and Consultation
Officer Matthew McRae discusses the case with another officer, working through the timeline. They consider several scenarios: both drivers may have run the red light during that buffer period, the left-turning driver may have legally entered on yellow but failed to yield to oncoming traffic, or the straight-through driver may have accelerated to beat the red light.
The officers note that based on the damage pattern, there's no way the collision occurred two seconds after the light turned red, as the Audi wouldn't have been in the intersection that long given the severity of the impact. The damage suggests vehicles traveling at normal intersection speeds, not the crawl that would result from a two-second traverse.
One officer suggests this might be "a good one for the insurance company to figure out," acknowledging the ambiguity in the evidence. Officer Matthew McRae initially considers citing the left-turning driver for failure to yield but wrestles with whether he has sufficient evidence to support any citation.
The Decision Not to Issue Citations
After careful consideration, Officer Matthew McRae makes the decision not to issue any citations. He explains his reasoning to both drivers: the timeline is too tight to definitively determine the light's color when each driver entered the intersection. If the straight-through driver's light was yellow, then the turning driver had a duty to yield. If the light was red, then the straight-through driver ran a red light.
Officer Matthew McRae acknowledges to both parties that while there are cameras at the intersection, they only provide live feeds for dispatch and don't record footage that could be reviewed. Without video evidence and with the witness testimony creating ambiguity rather than clarity, he cannot comfortably prove exactly what happened.
He provides both drivers with driver exchange forms containing all relevant vehicle and contact information, emphasizing the case number they'll need when contacting their insurance companies. He also provides the towing company information to the driver whose vehicle was towed due to deployed airbags and leaking fluids.
Aftermath and Practical Considerations
Before releasing the left-turn driver, Officer Matthew McRae checks on his injuries again, noting he'll "probably feel like a piece of plywood tomorrow" from the impact. The driver indicates he'll evaluate whether he needs to go to the hospital but doesn't think it's necessary at the moment.
For the younger driver and his mother, who will be handling the insurance claim, Officer Matthew McRae provides guidance on the next steps. He explains they should contact their insurance company with the case number, and the insurers will handle the investigation and fault determination from there.
The incident illustrates the challenges law enforcement faces when investigating accidents at intersections where split-second timing makes the difference between legal and illegal actions, and where human perception and reaction times can create conflicting but equally sincere accounts of the same event.
Video Transcript
He's just passing through. I need to
pull them out uh from here or no from
there. I think those two lanes going
this way. I think in the right Yeah, in
the rightmost lane coming this way cuz
you guys have a couple different uh
versions about what happened. So, we
have a third We had a third party
witness that watched the entire thing.
I'm just trying to clarify your guys'
story a little bit.
>> Hi, how are you? Good. How are you?
>> I know you just said what happened. Will
you do it one more time for me?
>> Yes. So I was in the left hand lane over
here going this way
>> and so going this way straight. So I
could not see this.
>> Yeah. So I was going straight and I saw
>> this car right here. The black car came
was making a left turn and this car went
right into it and that light turned
green right when it happened.
>> So I'm assuming he was trying to quickly
get left before the light turned and
this car went bam right into it.
>> So he was just straight going.
>> Did you see was this car in the in the
intersection?
>> This car was the left. They both were in
their section when it happened like
>> Okay. Can you just fill out a quick
witness statement for me really quick?
Just to see your identifying information
and uh what you say happened is really
important to us. Okay. So, uh just fill
out Have you Have you filled one of
these out before?
>> I haven't.
>> So, just identifying information exactly
what you just told me right there. Okay.
Is he calling 28? He's good.
>> Let me let me talk to uh this guy and
I'll call you back.
>> All right.
>> How are you, sir?
>> Shaken up.
>> Yeah. I'm Officer McCrae. Do you need an
ambulance or anything to come check you
out?
>> I don't think so.
>> You don't think so? Does anything hurt
on you right now?
>> Yeah.
>> Like, can you tell me where what hurts?
>> Um my left ear is ringing, my hip
My hips a little sore. My shoulders got
some
coming check out or anything like that.
All right. So, can you just tell me what
happened really quick?
>> Um, I was turning.
>> Which way were you turning? Which way
were you?
>> I was coming here turning left.
>> Okay.
>> Um,
it was a yellow. Everyone started
stopping
>> except for them. I think they sped up
>> trying to make it and just got slammed.
Okay. Gotcha. All right. So, what I need
from you is just your driver's license,
the registration proof insurance on your
vehicle, and then I'm going to leave
this here for you. This is just a
a witness statement about just your
version about what happened, and you can
fill that out for me.
>> Let me grab my other.
>> Okay.
>> I might have to give you my insurance
card on my phone.
>> That That will be just fine.
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towels.
>> He's going to have a He's going to need
the airbags went off. You got to have
one.
>> You have a preference like you have a
tow truck. You like
Who's the driver? You're the driver.
>> Yeah.
>> Can you tell me just really quick what
happened?
>> I was coming this way and we just
passing through and he pulled out uh
from here or no from there. I think
>> which Do you remember which lane you
were in?
>> I was in one of those two lanes going
this way. I think in the right Yeah. In
the rightmost lane coming this way.
Okay. And he would have been there going
left
>> and as I was coming through he turned in
and I t-boned into the side.
>> Okay. Do you remember looking at the
light?
>> Yeah. It was It just turned yellow as I
was getting into the intersection.
>> Gotcha. Okay. Are you Are either one of
you injured in any way, shape, or form?
No. Nothing hurts. Okay. Do you have
your registration or proof of insurance
on your vehicle?
>> Uh February 12th, 07. Same address on
simmer on me. So he was a passenger.
>> Okay.
>> Uh his insurance mom's on the way. He
doesn't have a copy right now. Right.
>> Okay. That'll work out. I'll just go
ahead and
>> uh do you need to be on speaker?
>> He's got his uh pull up on his picture
if you want me to text it to you.
>> Yeah, just text it to me.
>> There you go, bud.
>> All right. And then uh did you get a
record coming for this?
>> Yeah, I got one coming for this one.
>> Okay. He's going to need one too. He's
leaking. Did you get one for this guy as
well?
>> Yeah.
>> Troll 313. We're going to need a wrecker
for the six Juliet Fox as well.
[Music]
Your mom's on her way.
>> Yeah, she's got to be a minute. We got
to shuttle over from where she was at to
her car and then drive over.
>> Gotcha. Okay. What I need you to do is
just fill out this witness statement for
me. This is just your identifying
information down here. Put exactly what
you told me that happened. Uh you two
are your brothers or friends or Okay.
All I needed I just need his like down
here. But just put name, name, date of
birth, your address, and your phone
number. That worked just right down
here. I have to list him as a passenger.
Okay. Are you injured in any way, shape,
or form?
>> No. Okay, perfect. Okay, just give us a
couple minutes and we'll get uh the
paperwork. All right.
>> All right.
>> And we're going to have a tow truck come
and get your car since you're leaking
fluids. You ain't You're not going to
last too long.
>> Just Just as I left the house, put oil
in.
>> Of course.
>> Just topped it up.
>> Welcome to real life. Yeah, that's
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Did you copy that second wrecker
traffic?
>> Cool. You just let me know then I'll
help control
that insurance.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> What's that?
>> Uh yeah, if you would if you wouldn't
mind. If not, I'll grab them. I got it.
>> Okay.
Just use your phone. That way you don't
have to text them all.
>> Yeah, good idea.
>> Trying to hard. It hurts sometimes.
>> So smart. Thank you.
help you.
>> Uh,
okay.
>> Just uh
I don't know. Probably don't really need
you anymore.
>> Okay.
>> Uh,
no. I was trying to explain what the
northeast
car.
Perfect. Okay.
>> Awesome. Well, thank you very much for
stopping. We really appreciate that.
>> Yeah. You're welcome.
>> Have a better rest of your day.
>> I think so. Yeah. I think everybody's
okay. Appreciate you stopping. Have a
good one.
>> So, he's Sergeant's taking pictures. I'm
just waiting for a uh everybody's on
statements. I'm just waiting for another
um insurance card and then we're good.
So
if you want to hang out, just make sure
no res otherwise we're good, man.
Welcome.
>> That was in for that incident.
>> I'll be the lobby shortly. Use any left
though.
disconnected the phone. I'm not sure if
he's still there or not.
>> Copy that. Can you reopen that case?
I'll be going 82 shortly if you there
bravo 102. You need uh 78
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the way control 102 primary on this.
>> Awesome. Thank you. I appreciate that.
>> Anything else I can do for you in the
meantime?
>> I don't think so. I'm just going to wait
for the for mom to get that other
insurance card and then we'll be golden.
>> So, I'll stock up the paperwork real
quick.
13 district 14 for the Fiesta is locking
and the one for the Audi is going to be
mobile repair.
>> Copy. Thanks.
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off
the call takers on the phone right now.
Have Miami the number as soon as we get
this.
Thank you.
>> Awesome.
This one.
>> Wow.
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as well.
>> Like what do you mean his fault? I mean
if it's yellow it's not his fault. You
got to yield.
>> I mean, at face value, this looks like a
simple failure to you.
>> I think they're ran both ways for two
seconds.
>> You know what I mean? It's It's really
>> Well, yeah. It's hard because you don't
know how they how they when they entered
the intersection. But she said they
collided after her light turned green.
>> So what's the delay between a red light
them getting red light? Oh, there is
a few seconds.
>> So they both may have run the red light.
So I don't know who was already in the
intersection. He was trying to clear it.
>> So he was he had already entered the
intersection when it was yellow and he
may have turned red when he was in the
intersection. He still needed to clear
that intersection. The question is when
did the oncoming car enter the interse?
>> Well, so the collision happened and that
was two sec two seconds prior to that
collision. There's no way
>> that out that uh Audi was in the
intersection,
>> especially with that damage for two
seconds. Even I mean 2 seconds you'd
have to be doing like less than 15 miles
an hour, but that ain't happening.
>> Well, what I'm saying is Yeah. He he
could have started his turn as a
>> the guy runs a red crash happens. So I
think he turned and crashed,
>> but then was it like boom. Oh, a crash
just happened. Uh
>> it's green.
>> Then that's within that two second
buffer. You know what I'm saying?
>> Did Audi say that he came in on a yellow
though? That's the question.
>> I'm going to chat with them again and
see what he says.
>> He saw what the light was.
>> They're getting out. We're going to get
a hold of the hotel and find out which
room number she's in and we'll try and
get a 21 for the female.
>> I'm going to go uh go chat with him real
quick.
[Music]
[Applause]
Sir, uh, can I just chat with you down
here really quick? Just had a couple
questions about your safety.
So, tell me, so I hear you asked just
said he was really nice. He kept saying
it was his fault. Like, tell what was he
saying? He said, I don't even What were
his exact words?
said, "I'm sorry. Sorry. It was my
fault. It's totally my fault."
>> And he repeated it a couple different
times.
>> Okay. So So the question is, what like
like at what point did you look at the
light and realize that it was yellow?
>> Or do you remember that?
>> So it turned yellow.
I waited in the intersection.
I saw cars slowing down,
thought I was okay.
>> I think since he was in the furthest
lane, it must have blocked my vision.
>> Partially hidden. Okay.
>> And then tried to make it.
>> Okay. Let me just ask a couple more
questions. So,
>> okay. Did you get everything you need
out of here?
>> So, I just put a few things in there.
>> Okay. Just hang tight. I got some
paperwork for you and then I'll get you
on your way.
Hey buddy, you all done?
>> I need a sign in front of you.
>> Uh, yes, please.
Okay.
>> Did you make any statements to him after
the incident happened?
>> I said, "Are you all right?" And as we
pulled up here, I had him check on them.
Okay. All right. Did you make a Did you
make a a statement uh saying that it was
your fault?
>> Yeah.
>> What's that?
>> Huh?
>> Uh when I got out, I was like worried. I
just went out. I was like, "Yeah, it
wasn't your fault. It was our fault. We
were both messed up." When I first went
up to him and to check on him.
>> Okay. You said that to him?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. What What do you mean by that? Um,
I think it was just
trying like not to
>> Okay. Cuz you guys have a couple
different uh versions about what
happened. So, we have a third We had a
third party witness that watched the
entire thing. I'm just trying to clarify
your guys' story a little bit.
>> So, you're heading
>> from that rightmost through lane through
the intersection.
Maybe a second or so before I reached
the intersection, the light changed
yellow.
>> Okay. Do you remember looking at the
light?
>> Yeah, I was looking up at the light just
before getting there.
>> I saw it shift yellow and as I get into
the intersection, the bolts there was a
vehicle in the lane between like the
leftmost through lane that was forward
some.
>> So people people on the side of you were
slowing down to a stop.
I
had seen someone slowing down and and I
wondered why they had slowed so much.
>> Okay.
>> But
>> why do you think that they were slowing
down?
>> I'm not sure.
>> Okay. Maybe because the light was
turning red.
>> Well, I was like close enough to the
light that I would be like I would end
up in the intersection if I have tried
to break from that speed.
>> Okay.
>> I was going the speed limit. I had just
made sure.
>> Okay.
How long to before
How long were you How long was that?
Like when did you last shike your speed?
>> Uh probably back like maybe halfway down
that road to that curbs.
>> Maybe halfway down that distance. I
>> just gota All right. One second. Is your
mom almost there or
>> I'm not sure. She's over. She had to
shuttle from where she works in her car.
Is she not able to just send you a text
message of the of a picture of the I
just need a picture of the insurance
card.
>> Okay, perfect.
>> Sir, which uh
which one told you that? The the shorter
one. The shorter one. Okay.
>> Oh, man.
>> What's that?
>> I didn't say anything.
>> Well, he's not the driver. So,
>> so little is not the driver. You know
what I mean?
>> I'm not trying. No, I get it. I'm just
trying to figure out the timeline there.
So,
the witness said she saw the light turn
green after um like like right about
when the collision happened, but I don't
know that time. So, after a light,
what's that?
>> This light turn.
>> Yeah, she was right here watching here.
So, she had like she had like the front
row seat to the accident there. Does
that make sense? So, let me uh
>> So, would that mean that
that he she thought that he she timed
the green light? Because if it just
turned green.
>> That was But see, there's a delay from
when your light turned red till it like
it turns her light would turn green. Her
light turned
>> her light turned green. Yeah. Her light
turned green.
>> So, that one was really red.
>> Yeah.
>> So, um but that was when that was when
the collision happened. But there is a
delay in between the lights. I think
I'll just automatically switch because
you can imagine how many more accents or
how many crowds they have with that. So,
>> yeah, just give me a couple minutes, I
think. Uh just waiting for some
documentation, then we'll get you guys
on your way. Okay.
You still need insurance?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. I told her
>> I think uh I think I'm going to do a
failure to yield
>> on the guy that turned left.
>> Okay. That's probably that's Yeah.
>> So, based upon the statement, it was the
it was the younger brother, not even the
driver that said, "Oh, dude, our fault.
Sorry." road.
>> Yeah. So, I'm like I I can't really go
off of that.
>> But I think that based upon everything,
>> I don't really have solid evidence that
the lights were red when he blew the
light, but I have solid evidence that he
failed to yield.
>> Oh, yeah. Well, and you got to whatever
it is, you got to make sure it's
>> Yeah.
>> Or either.
>> Yeah. I don't know.
>> Whatever you want to do, I'm not here.
>> 1042.
>> You know what? I should sweep up that
debris real quick. Yeah, you can just
push down the road. That'd be great.
>> I think sometimes you can't see it. He's
like, "No,
>> I know. You're right."
>> I wish that I wish that she would be a
little bit more sure cuz Yeah. Here's
the thing is she probably watched the
accident
>> and then she had the the holy
>> and then you have reaction time after
that before she finally looks up.
>> She said she wants to change the green.
>> It's tight. But the thing is is with
that with that reaction time
>> this I don't know in my opinion this is
a good one for the insurance company to
figure out.
>> Yeah, I think you're right. I don't
think I'm going to you know what I'm not
going to ride a site.
>> I'm just going to say Captain Bomb was
there.
>> No needles. What's that? What's
[Music]
left? I don't know.
>> Left. Yeah.
>> Get out of here. The girl in the black
shirt was going to get insured. I'll go
grab her.
>> Okay.
Hi.
>> Hi. Are you mom?
>> I'm mom. Yes.
>> Thank you for coming so fast.
>> Of course.
>> Take off. Okay. Thanks. Appreciate it.
Heat.
Heat.
Okay, there's that. Thank you. I'm just
printing this out and we'll get them on
their way.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.
2x5. Don't quandry.
Okay, sir. Here's your information back.
So
um so this is a driver exchange form
here. This is has all of your vehicle
information, all of his vehicle
information on it. Okay. Uh the most
important number on this piece of paper
is this one top left. This is your
incident number, case number, whatever
you want to call it. That's the number
the accident will be filed under. when
you contact your insurance company,
that's the number that they're going to
ask for. As far as citations, the the
timeline is really tight, okay, with the
witness and with uh with you turning
with him coming. I'm not sure. I can't
I'm not very positive whether his light
was red or yellow. If his light was
yellow, then you have to yield. Does
that make sense? If his light is red,
then obviously he's running the red
light. Does that make sense? because I
can't really prove either of those
things at this point, especially with
the third party witness. I'm not issuing
citations. Uh, but you will need to
discontent your insurance company. Is
that fair? Do you have any questions
about that?
>> No.
>> Are there there are no cameras on these
lights?
>> There are cameras, but they're just live
feed cameras.
>> Okay.
>> They don't record.
>> So, bummer, huh? What's
>> the purpose of them then?
Well, for dispatch, like dispatch is
able to see the accident like, "Okay,
they're blocking these lanes or if we
have like uh there's a pursuit or
something like that, hey, they're going
through thousands red hills or something
like that." So, does that make sense?
Are you going to go to You said you
you're hurting. Are you going to go to
the hospital or anything?
>> I'll I'll evaluate. I don't think so. I
don't want to, but yeah, I don't think
so.
>> Okay.
>> But they'll they'll be able to get me
there if I decide.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> All right.
>> Other than that, you're good to go. Hope
you have a better night. You'll probably
feel like a piece of plywood tomorrow.
But, uh,
>> excited for that in the morning.
>> Pretty big. Did you get a card here?
>> I'm actually out of cards, but I did
want to make sure they have the
information and contact us.
>> There you go. You want to use my pen
really quick and then get his
information? Right back with you.
>> All right, buddy. Here's your
information back here. So, this is a
driver exchange form. This has all of
his vehicle information and all your
vehicle information. Okay? The most
important number on this piece of paper
is this one right here, top left. This
is your case number, incident number,
all that stuff. Okay? That's the number
that the report will be filed under. All
right? When you contact your insurance
company, that's the number they're going
to ask for right there. Okay? So, I am
not issuing citations today because I
can't prove one way or the other about
exactly what happened. Okay? So, if your
light is yellow, then he didn't yield.
If your light was red, okay, and you
sped up to to make the red light, then
that's your bet. Does that make sense? I
have a third party witness. It's just
we're we're like seconds. I just can't
uh I'm not comfortable with sighting
anyway cuz I don't know exactly what
happened. Okay.
>> All right.
>> So, do you have any questions about
that?
>> No.
>> No. Okay.
Mom, do you have any questions since
you'll probably be taking care of this?
>> I will be taking care of this and this
is all new for me, but we'll figure it
out.
>> All right. But basically, just call your
insurance company, let them know it's
involved in an accident. They'll ask for
this number, okay? And then just kind of
go from there. They'll help you out.
>> They'll do whatever insurance companies
do. Okay.
>> All right.
>> Um
I was told it was going to tell us where
the car is.
>> So,
you just you just bailed that. Let me
get you some information really quick.
Let me get I'll write down the record
information for you.
All right. Yeah.
Okay.
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[Applause]
Heat. Heat.
Heavy evidence collected 1719.
You guys okay?
>> Glenn's Mobile Repairs. Uh, who took
your car? Okay, perfect. There's your
address and then the phone number's on
there.
>> Does anybody else have any other
questions?
>> No. Okay. All right. We'll have a better
night.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Take care.
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