Why So Many People Are Questioning Erika Kirk's Sincerity and Message

[00:01] My friend, I have been deliberately

[00:04] deliberately avoiding the Erica Kirk

[00:07] story, the the appraisal, the review

[00:11] for a while for some obvious reasons. I

[00:14] thought, listen, what what this woman

[00:16] went through is just unbelievable. She's

[00:19] a widow, mother of children, two

[00:22] children. She she she has to deal with

[00:24] that. I thought, not now. Not now. Don't

[00:27] jump on her. I'm not going to be a part

[00:29] of this troll mentality, which a lot of

[00:31] people are because that's what social

[00:32] media producer.

[00:37] They make fun of Trump and they make fun

[00:38] of this one and this one's nose and this

[00:40] one and they'll they'll they'll through

[00:42] AI you're you're dancing and I mean

[00:44] there's just I thought not not yet. Not

[00:47] yet. I don't want to give the old too

[00:48] soon, Mrs. Lincoln.

[00:51] But I got to tell you something. It is

[00:54] now absolutely

[00:56] pouring from every

[00:59] area. People are saying flat out,

[01:02] "Please forgive me, Erica. We're not

[01:05] buying it."

[01:07] Let me clarify. Not that her heart's not

[01:10] broken. Not that she didn't love

[01:12] Charlie. None of that. That's not it.

[01:16] It's this

[01:18] It's this performance. this this this

[01:21] seeming performance it's not working and

[01:25] let me tell you something there's a lot

[01:27] to be said for that as a prosecutor

[01:30] former prosecutor as a trial lawyer the

[01:33] thing which you always give in terms of

[01:35] jury instructions you ask the jury do

[01:38] you believe this witness

[01:41] do you believe the person who is upset

[01:43] over the fact that his building burned

[01:47] down that it wasn't arson

[01:50] that he sure he's collecting millions of

[01:52] dollars, but but he he would never ever

[01:57] want to see his family business burned.

[02:00] Do you believe it? Do you believe the

[02:03] police officer when he says no? I I I

[02:06] rather defended his rights. Do Do you

[02:08] believe You have to ask yourself, do you

[02:12] believe it? Why? Because you're a human

[02:13] being and you know how people react. you

[02:16] you know how macity works.

[02:19] And I've been biting my tongue for a

[02:22] long time about Erica Kirk. Again, not

[02:24] because I I lack sympathy for a widow or

[02:26] a mother. That's not it. But because

[02:29] sympathy is not a strategy and grief and

[02:34] sometimes I'm sorry, performative grief

[02:36] is not a some kind of a governing model.

[02:40] Now, she is the CEO of a multi-million

[02:44] dollar political operation. And Erica,

[02:47] let me tell you something. Those

[02:50] vultures are going to bounce you out of

[02:52] that so fast. And first one to watch,

[02:56] Ben Shapiro. If you don't know, if you

[02:58] can't see this, there's no help for you.

[03:00] There's no then nobody's helping you.

[03:03] They're going to use you as long as they

[03:05] can to push you out in your in your gold

[03:09] lame and this and the sequence and the

[03:12] dabbing the I mean they they are going

[03:14] to push you out. You're going to be

[03:15] almost like you know bring them out.

[03:18] Bring her out. They're going to roll you

[03:20] out

[03:22] because nobody's even interested in who

[03:25] killed Charlie. We know more about Rob

[03:27] Ryder and there's no we know who did it.

[03:29] What are we talking about? That's

[03:31] different because the shadow government

[03:33] said, "Okay, that you can watch. That's

[03:34] a great distraction. Here you want to

[03:36] talk about a murder, talk about Rob

[03:37] Rander. That's okay. But don't talk

[03:39] about Charlie Kirk."

[03:42] Okay. And this this Afest and TPUSA. Oh

[03:46] my god. Do you not see this this cluster

[03:50] that this is about?

[03:53] Welcome Rob Schneider. What? The Lenny

[03:55] Bruce of our generation? I don't think

[03:57] so.

[03:59] Now Erica, the role that you've got of

[04:01] CEO comes with expectations and those

[04:03] expectations are clarity and consistency

[04:06] and discipline and above all please

[04:09] credibility.

[04:11] The problem

[04:13] you keep making is unforced errors. And

[04:17] every time you do

[04:20] it, it it doesn't just hurt yourself, it

[04:23] splashes doubt on the entire enterprise

[04:27] that Charlie built.

[04:30] And I'm not I'm I'm I'm not blaming you.

[04:33] I'm not it's not it. Let me say this

[04:37] cleanly.

[04:39] It is not immoral for people to ask

[04:43] questions after a major political

[04:47] killing. It is normal. It is human. It

[04:52] is historically predictable, acceptable,

[04:54] and warranted and a good thing. In the

[04:56] real world, which I think last time I

[04:59] checked, we're in. When public trust is

[05:01] low and information is tightly managed

[05:05] and the stakes are enormous,

[05:08] people do not simply accept the first

[05:12] version of events

[05:14] because it arrived in this nice little

[05:18] package,

[05:20] you know, constructed

[05:23] the official narrative. Here it is.

[05:24] Don't deviate from that. Don't you dare

[05:27] deviate from this woman's story. That's

[05:30] the story. We're not We're Don't

[05:32] question it. You know how that goes.

[05:35] They ask who citizens who why. They ask

[05:40] how. They ask what's being withheld.

[05:45] Whether it's the Epstein photos, whether

[05:48] it's the president's own assassination,

[05:51] whe whether why he renamed the Kennedy

[05:53] Center, we ask questions across the

[05:56] board. And if you don't like it, don't

[05:59] be in the public eye. It ain't gonna

[06:01] happen. Nobody's gonna say, "Oh, no, no,

[06:02] no, no, no, no. You you remember,

[06:05] nobody's going after you as a mother.

[06:07] You're the CEO and they keep pushing you

[06:09] out."

[06:11] And after a while, when you do the same

[06:14] tell all the time,

[06:19] maybe that's just the way you are.

[06:21] People are a different story. Now they

[06:23] ask they ask these questions because

[06:25] they are trying to make sense of what is

[06:28] chaos.

[06:30] Dismissing that impulse as

[06:33] some kind of brain rot or something

[06:36] might feel satisfying in the moment but

[06:39] it is absolutely a catastrophic

[06:44] communications and data mistake if your

[06:47] stated mission is to awaken people and

[06:50] and mobilize them. Okay, you got what

[06:53] we're saying here? What's it going to

[06:54] be, Erica? What's it going to be? God

[06:58] love you and your family, but you want

[07:00] this. It's like the old Jack Reacher

[07:01] thing. Remember, you wanted this. Okay,

[07:04] that here are what makes here. Here's

[07:06] what makes this so maddening. Erica is

[07:08] not being targeted because she's

[07:10] fragile.

[07:12] She's being scrutinized because she's

[07:15] powerful.

[07:16] She's not being asked to, you know, to

[07:19] answer for her pain. She's being asked

[07:24] to answer for her posture, her affect,

[07:28] her messaging, her choices, her sudden,

[07:33] you know, pivoting into the posture

[07:36] of an institutional

[07:39] scold, you know, how dare you, how dare.

[07:43] And then going after Candace and others

[07:45] like, what are you nuts? Again, I keep

[07:47] telling people, ignore them. Don't

[07:50] elevate anybody to a position that you

[07:52] want to supposedly dethrone. Now, the

[07:55] vibe that we're seeing is not just

[07:56] defensive. It's it's like managerial.

[07:59] It's a tone that says, "Stop looking.

[08:02] Stop asking. Stop thinking. Trust us.

[08:05] Don't ask any questions. We know what's

[08:07] best." And if you've been in politics

[08:10] long [clears throat] enough or been

[08:12] alive long enough, you know exactly what

[08:15] that tone triggers in people. Suspicion.

[08:20] Not because every suspicion is true or

[08:24] valid, but because that posture, that

[08:28] countenance is the same one that every

[08:31] compromised institution uses right

[08:35] before it demands this this compliance

[08:38] and this obedience and this obeisance.

[08:41] You will not question this story. How

[08:43] dare you? Have you no mercy at long

[08:47] last? Sound familiar? So, what's the

[08:50] core issue? It is not whether Erica can

[08:53] cry on Q or glare at the right moment.

[08:56] It's not about whether a body language

[08:59] guy on YouTube or somebody sees a squint

[09:03] on a chin jut or whether she's using

[09:06] some kinds of some camper or menthol on

[09:10] her tissues to to cause lacrimmation.

[09:15] Those analyses are eh kind of

[09:18] entertainment with the the thinnest

[09:23] layer and veneer of science useful only

[09:25] if you already understand how easily

[09:27] people you know project their own

[09:29] feelings onto

[09:32] what what what other people are saying

[09:34] you know somebody else's faces.

[09:35] Basically, what these language folks

[09:37] are, these body language, which is

[09:39] fraudulent, is basically they're they're

[09:42] they're showing you, they're they're

[09:44] projecting what they feel onto somebody

[09:46] else. But the real issue is the pattern

[09:49] of communications. That's what I want to

[09:51] focus on. The pattern of message

[09:53] control, the pattern of this, you know

[09:57] it, selective outrage. That's what we're

[10:00] talking about. You see, when a CEO goes

[10:04] public to attack

[10:08] specific questioners

[10:10] rather than to calmly establish facts

[10:15] and timelines and uh evidentiary

[10:18] boundaries, people notice when a CEO

[10:21] treats questioning

[10:24] as some kind of betrayal.

[10:27] People notice when a CEO

[10:31] uses this moral frame to delegitimize

[10:35] curiosity.

[10:36] People notice. Look at Candace. And when

[10:40] the CEO seems to reserve special

[10:41] hostility for certain names like Candace

[10:45] Owens and Tucker Carlson and others and

[10:47] the people the people who have merely

[10:49] merely you think you think Erica would

[10:51] be thanking them. They've been merely

[10:55] demanding answers. People notice it's

[10:57] like why are you finding this offensive?

[10:59] What do you own this? Did somebody tell

[11:01] you this? Doesn't

[11:04] you ever have you ever heard about a

[11:05] woman whose children, let's say, were

[11:07] kidnapped, begging for people, stop

[11:10] involving yourselves in this. Stop going

[11:12] to the police.

[11:14] Stop going to the police and demanding

[11:16] ants. Nobody does this. You need all the

[11:19] help you can get. It's like we're like

[11:21] an intellectual kind of a search party.

[11:24] This is the part that kills me. Now, I'm

[11:26] not going to sit here and claim that I

[11:28] know who killed Charlie or why. We're

[11:30] not even talking about this. And by the

[11:31] way, nobody knows yet. Nobody knows

[11:34] because whoever did this knows what they

[11:35] were doing. All right? Haven't caught

[11:37] anybody. And there's so much stuff being

[11:39] cleaned up that we may never get to it.

[11:42] Okay? Let's make sure we understand

[11:43] this. I'm not saying I know who did

[11:46] what,

[11:48] but I do love the fact that great

[11:51] independent crowdsource citizens are

[11:53] coming forward and saying, "You know

[11:54] what? I know about this. I'm a former

[11:57] Marine sniper or I'm a ballistics expert

[11:59] or I was in law enforcement or I know

[12:01] about hunting or I know about I have an

[12:03] angle. I've got a picture. I've got this

[12:06] this I love this crowd sourcing. It's

[12:09] beautiful. Beautiful. Something wrong

[12:12] with this. So, we're not saying we know

[12:15] anything. Okay.

[12:18] I don't. You don't. Podcasters don't.

[12:22] In any responsible world, which I think

[12:24] we are, that is what trials are for, if

[12:26] it ever gets to that point. Due process,

[12:29] evidence, cross-examination,

[12:32] direct circumstantial evidence, direct

[12:34] examination, okay? Documents, testimony,

[12:37] pictures, you name it, expert witnesses,

[12:40] facts. But the question is not whether

[12:42] people should,

[12:44] you know, pre-try a case on the

[12:46] internet. The question is why the

[12:49] leadership posture

[12:51] seems to be that their goal is to shame

[12:53] people for asking questions at all.

[12:57] Especially when those questions come

[12:59] from people from people who were and are

[13:03] not cheering to death but are trying to

[13:06] determine what what happened. And there

[13:09] are many of us, many people in

[13:10] particular, who took this very, very

[13:12] seriously, who really were affected by

[13:14] this greatly.

[13:17] Remember, one of the most important

[13:22] pieces of evidence ever to to encourage

[13:24] folks to investigate the JFK

[13:27] assassination was the movie JFK,

[13:32] Oliver Stone,

[13:34] not the House Assassinations Committee

[13:37] or the Warren Commission. No, no, no,

[13:38] no, no. And also, by the way, it was

[13:40] Heraldo Rivera who released the Zapruder

[13:42] film in 1975 or whatever it was on Goodn

[13:44] Night America. That's what did we did

[13:47] it. We are an adjunct to law

[13:50] enforcement. We help things.

[13:54] Ask John Walsh. All the people that were

[13:56] found from a TV show. FBI didn't do it.

[13:59] Cash Patel sure as hell ain't going to

[14:01] do it. Oh, Cash Patel. Oh my god.

[14:06] You know what happens as soon as he's

[14:07] bowed from the FBI? Think his

[14:08] girlfriend's going to leave, too? Just

[14:10] saying. Just saying. Okay, we're just

[14:14] merely trying to figure out what

[14:15] happened because last time I checked, I

[14:16] think it was okay for us to to mourn

[14:19] Charlie's death and to feel sorry for

[14:22] him. Candace, by the way, did not become

[14:24] famous by whispering. Okay? She became

[14:28] famous by interrogating narratives.

[14:31] And Tucker Carlson, by the way, made his

[14:34] made his bone, so to speak. Got his butt

[14:36] in his badge. He was straightened out.

[14:39] And his entire brand by walking into the

[14:41] places the approved storytellers refused

[14:44] to enter. Steve Bannon built a career in

[14:47] the idea as well. Alex Jones, Matt

[14:50] Drudge in his own day. I don't know if

[14:52] you know if Matt Drudge is alive today,

[14:54] but that that remember this. Remember

[14:56] the whole notion that that politics is

[14:58] downstream from power and that power

[15:00] hides behind ritualized messaging. Now

[15:04] look, you can disagree with any of these

[15:06] folks or with me or anybody else. That's

[15:08] fine. No problem. But do it on specific

[15:10] claims. Disagree with them on on facts

[15:13] that have been aduced. But but but you

[15:16] can't you can't pretend that the

[15:18] movement is somehow the energy doesn't

[15:21] come from the impulse to challenge the

[15:24] script. That's precisely what it is.

[15:26] When Erica tries to shut down

[15:30] that inquiry, you know, with a finger

[15:32] wag or a hard stare, those stairs

[15:36] that that day when she was on the cable

[15:39] news shows and Barry Weiss, that was the

[15:41] worst.

[15:43] It it it was whoever packaged that one

[15:46] after another, it became performative,

[15:48] wrote, ritualized, systematic,

[15:51] unbelievable.

[15:54] And now she's not just attacking

[15:55] individuals, she's attacking the engine.

[15:57] And by the way, that afest that was a

[15:59] joke this TPUA. What are these people

[16:01] doing with the sparklers and this and

[16:03] that and Ben Shapiro screaming at Tucker

[16:06] and Tucker screaming at him and

[16:07] everybody go, who what is this? What was

[16:11] the point of this? Let me just say

[16:12] something on a side note. If you care

[16:14] anything about the conservative

[16:15] movement, well, whatever the hell that

[16:16] is, we are going to lose drastically in

[16:19] the midterms because this incoherent

[16:21] because this is about a bunch of talking

[16:23] heads and influencers screaming and

[16:25] yelling. And by the way, let us talk

[16:26] about the unforced error, shall we?

[16:28] Because this is where it gets ugly.

[16:30] Okay?

[16:32] And I'm sorry, Erica, but you got to

[16:34] hear this. A CEO cannot afford casual

[16:36] contradictions. If you build a public

[16:38] persona on piety and restraint and and

[16:43] uh and moderation and a certain

[16:45] lifestyle story, then your past becomes

[16:49] relevant. Not because you owe strangers

[16:51] a confessional. That's that's that's not

[16:53] it. But because credibility is the coin

[16:57] of the realm, so to speak, right? If

[17:01] there are clips, if there are photos, if

[17:03] there is evidence, anecdote or

[17:05] otherwise, or older statements that

[17:07] contradict your

[17:09] curated, produced narrative, you've got

[17:12] to handle that with maturity. You

[17:14] address it once. You clarify, specify

[17:17] with pelucidity, limpidity, and you move

[17:20] on. You don't pretend the internet will

[17:23] not dig. Anticipate, address it, and

[17:26] move on. Be able to say, "I already

[17:28] answered it." The internet always digs.

[17:30] You know this. This is what they do.

[17:32] This is what this this new realm is. And

[17:35] when you mix that with the optics of

[17:37] scrubbing posts and complicated

[17:39] relationships and all this other kind of

[17:40] stuff, then then suddenly suddenly

[17:45] I guess elevating a figure linked to

[17:47] your past into a how to lead like

[17:50] Charlie touring

[17:53] surrogate. You know, you're begging

[17:55] people to

[17:58] connect dots whether the dots exist or

[18:01] not. That's how optics work. People want

[18:05] to know about your past. They want to

[18:07] know who you are, what you did, how did

[18:09] you meet, what did you I mean, who who

[18:11] doesn't?

[18:13] It's normally it's your past which makes

[18:16] your story your negative. You came from

[18:18] hard scrabble times. You you worked your

[18:20] way through how you met. But then when

[18:23] you find out, wait a minute, if

[18:25] something is not true, that becomes a

[18:27] part of your narrative. Now, [snorts]

[18:28] you don't get to demand people ignore

[18:30] the optics of current and past while you

[18:34] simultaneously demand that they accept

[18:36] your conclusions 100%. It doesn't work

[18:39] that way. Now, you've also got to look,

[18:43] and I'm sorry, it's happening right now.

[18:45] We you might have wanted to put this off

[18:47] for a while here. Here's the larger

[18:48] institutional point. TPUSA is not a

[18:51] grief group, okay? It's not a church

[18:53] circle. It's not a an advocacy group or

[18:56] some 12step thing or grief counseling.

[18:59] It's a political operation and it's a

[19:01] machine. And Charlie built it to win.

[19:04] And winning requires trust. And trust

[19:06] requires Erica consistency and

[19:08] legitimacy. And consistency requires

[19:11] humility. And humility requires

[19:14] something involving admitting when your

[19:17] tone is wrong. And right now the tone

[19:21] and the a effect is wrong and you know

[19:24] it. Pay attention. Is anybody helping

[19:26] you on this? If Erica believes the case

[19:29] is open and shut, fine. Terrific. Then

[19:31] the correct move is not to not to mock

[19:34] people asking questions. The correct way

[19:37] and this makes I think implicit sense is

[19:39] to say

[19:41] subject to the effect of we are

[19:42] cooperating with investigators. We will

[19:44] respect the process blah blah blah. We

[19:46] will not litigate evidence in public. We

[19:50] will recognize the proper tribunal, the

[19:52] proper forum. We will provide verified

[19:54] updates when appropriate. And we ask

[19:57] everyone, here's the we ask everyone to

[20:00] avoid spreading claims that cannot be

[20:03] verified. Maturity, you know, that kind

[20:06] of thing. That is leadership, Erica.

[20:08] That is credibility. And that that is

[20:11] how you protect the organization without

[20:14] and this is important without insulting

[20:16] the base. You hear what I'm saying?

[20:19] That's what that's about. Instead,

[20:23] instead I'm sorry to say what we are

[20:25] seeing looks like an impulse to kind of

[20:27] police

[20:29] the conversation, you know, to declare

[20:33] certain questions legitimate, OFF BASE,

[20:35] CAN'T SAY THAT. to label anybody

[20:38] skeptical with legitimate questions as

[20:40] malicious, conspiratorial,

[20:43] to define inquiry as betrayal. Uh-uh.

[20:47] That's that's just bad politics. And

[20:50] it's anti-movement. It's it's the very

[20:52] institutional reflex the movement claims

[20:55] to oppose. Charlie Kirk, your beloved

[20:58] husband, made his name by saying, "I

[21:01] talk to everybody. I go everybody.

[21:07] And when you talk about things like

[21:09] Mossad handler and all this stuff and

[21:11] the the ring nonsense and airplane

[21:14] tracking, look look

[21:16] we're we're we're kind of getting out of

[21:18] the realm here. Sure, there's a lot of

[21:20] online speculation.

[21:22] Some of it ridiculous. Some of it's

[21:23] interesting. I hate mere speculation

[21:27] without something somewhere. Some of

[21:30] it's pure theater. Look, if it's Mossad,

[21:34] CIA, ISI, if it's MI6, if it's if it's

[21:38] the Junior League, I don't care. But

[21:41] don't sit back and say, "No, let's see

[21:44] what familiar trope,

[21:46] what familiar

[21:48] construct can we use and burnish and

[21:50] dust?" No. Maybe. Look, I've been

[21:54] through this. I'm older than you.

[21:57] I'm the I was red pill during 9/11 and I

[22:00] can tell you oh my god there's a lot of

[22:03] stuff you know I think maybe and it

[22:05] never went anywhere and you lose

[22:07] credibility when you're bringing in all

[22:08] these suspicions that can never be

[22:10] validated and as you know some of this

[22:12] is pure theater I understand this some

[22:13] of it's some of it is people trying to

[22:15] feel important by narrating drama I know

[22:18] I understand fine I dig it but if your

[22:22] response to the loudest idiots become a

[22:25] a blanket condemnation of questioning

[22:27] itself. No,

[22:30] you lose the serious people with

[22:34] legitimate concerns

[22:36] and that is exactly what seems to be

[22:40] happening. [snorts]

[22:42] Let me say this. If you do believe that

[22:45] airlines or countries are tracking

[22:47] people, present your evidence.

[22:50] Don't read, don't tell me what it means.

[22:53] Tell me what it is. I'm not stupid.

[22:58] Does anybody question the past of our

[23:00] own CIA? Anybody?

[23:03] Do you think with the people with the

[23:05] the dispatches that our government has

[23:08] has included, you don't think it's

[23:10] impossible for other countries to do the

[23:11] same thing? They all talk to each other.

[23:13] They're part of the same ecosystem. I

[23:16] hate that word. Listen,

[23:20] the serious audience, which I think we

[23:21] all are, we don't want permission to

[23:25] speculate.

[23:29] They want you to ask permission to ask.

[23:31] And that is why the Candace and Tucker

[23:34] and Bannon and Alex Jones and whoever it

[23:37] is, all of these angles matter. You can

[23:40] dislike their tone. You can dislike

[23:41] their volume. You can hate their

[23:43] platform incentives. You can hate the

[23:44] way they look and the way they scream

[23:46] and their P. whatever you want. It's

[23:47] okay. You could suspect that they're

[23:49] monetizing controversy, which is the

[23:51] funniest. You're talking about

[23:53] monetizing controversy when you're in

[23:54] something called Amfest and TPUSA to

[23:56] raise money when basically what you're

[23:58] doing is you're monetizing a memory.

[24:00] You're monetizing grief, which is fine.

[24:03] Monetization is capitalization. How do

[24:06] you propel something without capital?

[24:08] Nothing wrong with that. Okay? But you

[24:11] don't get to posture as a champion of

[24:13] truth seeking to to brand the truth

[24:18] seekers as dangerous. They're crazy.

[24:21] When it becomes inconvenient for you,

[24:23] you got to stop doing this. And you

[24:25] know, Erica, that they're telling you to

[24:26] do this. They're telling you to do this.

[24:29] And there's also a strategic problem

[24:31] here that the GOP in particular, the

[24:33] leadership keeps refusing to to

[24:36] understand. And this this I've said a

[24:38] gazillion times.

[24:40] If you

[24:43] treat

[24:44] your own coalition like daycare, like

[24:47] like a daycare or something, if you

[24:49] scold them and point your finger and

[24:51] shame them, how dare you, and you demand

[24:53] this this subsequious compliance, you're

[24:57] going to fracture

[24:59] what you GOP are going to need to win

[25:01] the midterms. The establishment always

[25:04] thinks they can control populace by by

[25:06] placing, you know, a a manager at the

[25:09] top. See, this is this is nuts. That's

[25:12] what this feels like. Right now, as we

[25:15] speak, Dave Chappelle's routine is

[25:18] blasting the internet. Do you see what's

[25:20] going on there? Do you understand what's

[25:22] happening?

[25:23] Meanwhile, you're you're you're doing

[25:25] this. You're you're playing whatever

[25:27] this Disney World stuff is. This what do

[25:29] you Wink Martindale? All you did is

[25:31] Vanna White next. What is this? This is

[25:34] not what America believes in.

[25:37] See, this is what this feels like. This

[25:40] is like this this managerial turn, you

[25:42] know, like you know, if you you've got

[25:44] some riskmanagement

[25:46] CEO, this is nonsense. And in a

[25:48] movement, by the way, in the movement,

[25:49] I'm saying that's built on disruption,

[25:51] that that posture is poisoned. Believe

[25:54] me when I tell you that. So this is

[25:55] where the GOP and the donor class

[25:59] and the consultants and you know the the

[26:02] the

[26:04] priesthood of the the consultants and

[26:06] the advoc and the the advocates.

[26:09] They this is where they show their hand.

[26:11] See they want the energy of the movement

[26:13] without the questions without the

[26:15] responsibility that come with it. See

[26:17] they want turnout and they want the

[26:19] money themselves without skepticism.

[26:21] They want you there just as some kind of

[26:24] a NPC little cutout standing there

[26:27] clapping like some like some barking

[26:29] seal. They want loyalty without

[26:31] scrutiny. And they want America first

[26:33] votes while quietly returning to the old

[26:36] foreign policy consensus. Do you not see

[26:39] this?

[26:41] They want to use Charlie's legacy

[26:43] selectively,

[26:45] fungeibly. They want to use it as as

[26:48] branding while kind of sanding down

[26:50] everything that made him effective. And

[26:53] if Erica Kirk truly becomes the

[26:55] instrument

[26:57] truly becomes the instrument or the the

[26:59] the article of that, you know, sanding

[27:02] down whatever, then she's not protecting

[27:04] Charlie's work or his image or his his

[27:06] memory. She's converting it into some

[27:09] institution like all the others that he

[27:11] hated.

[27:12] So, let me make this

[27:15] even simpler, if that's even possible,

[27:17] because I want you to understand this.

[27:19] If the movement is built on telling

[27:22] people, do not believe the official

[27:26] story, do not believe the official

[27:28] narrative, ask questions, trust your

[27:31] eyes, then you cannot suddenly flip and

[27:34] say, "Shut up. Trust the official story.

[27:38] Stop asking questions. Stop noticing.

[27:40] Stop thinking. stop speaking.

[27:44] That's not that's not leadership. It's

[27:46] hypocrisy. It's lunacy. It's what will

[27:49] kill everything. Erica, you got to know

[27:50] this. And hypocrisy is how you lose

[27:53] people. So, here's the question. What

[27:56] should happen now? Good question. What

[28:00] happens?

[28:02] What do we do?

[28:04] Three things. Keep it simple. The troa,

[28:06] the triad, the triumphvirate, the rule

[28:08] of three. First, TPUSA needs a

[28:11] credibility reset,

[28:14] clear communications, fewer sermons,

[28:16] more specifics, more going out and

[28:20] proletizing and getting in and

[28:22] recruiting young people, not evidence

[28:24] dumps, not trial commentary, but basic

[28:28] accountability,

[28:30] timelines where possible,

[28:33] confirm statements if if appropriate, if

[28:36] you've got them. You got to maintain a

[28:38] posture of respect, a respect for the

[28:41] audience that loved Charlie and loves

[28:44] his memory rather than contempt for it.

[28:46] Okay, you got that? Okay.

[28:49] Second, I hope you're keeping square of

[28:52] this. The movement needs to stop eating

[28:55] itself. It's like autophagy.

[28:57] You you you don't it's like a and um

[29:00] call it hormmesis and something there.

[29:02] You don't build resistance. You're just

[29:04] destroying yourself. You're you're

[29:06] cannibalizing yourself. You don't have

[29:08] to love Candace. You don't have to love

[29:10] Tucker or any of these other people. You

[29:11] don't have to love Steve Bannon or

[29:12] anybody people who really care or Trump

[29:14] or anybody for that matter. But you you

[29:16] you you do not even have to

[29:20] love any GOP or anything.

[29:24] But you can't pretend

[29:27] that the coalition is strengthened by

[29:29] internal excommunications.

[29:32] these excommunications when when

[29:35] whenever someone dares to ask the wrong

[29:38] question or or or events the wrong

[29:41] suspicion in the wrong tone at the wrong

[29:43] time. If the goal is to win and to

[29:46] govern, you need a big tent, Erica, with

[29:49] strong boundaries, not some little tent

[29:52] with, you know, constant purges and

[29:54] you're out and you're not in. And third,

[29:57] and finally, this

[29:59] and I thought this through.

[30:02] You, the audience, you, you, my friend,

[30:05] you need to grow up in one specific way.

[30:11] Stop treating a rumor as fact.

[30:16] Stop sharing claims you can't verify. I

[30:19] know it's fun. I know it's fun. It's

[30:22] great. It's gossipy. Stop letting

[30:25] provocators hijack your attention.

[30:28] That's what they're doing. Trust me. do

[30:31] what I do.

[30:33] Make sure you ask yourself, "How do I

[30:36] know what I know?" But do not, repeat,

[30:38] do not stop asking questions. Do not

[30:40] stop demanding transparency. Remember,

[30:43] there's a difference between hunch and

[30:45] proof. There's a difference between

[30:46] probable cause and reasonable doubt.

[30:48] Don't stop pressing for accountability.

[30:50] Please, I'm with you on that. Let's work

[30:52] together. Th those are different things.

[30:54] You know, one is chaos. The other is

[30:56] it's citizenship. It's responsibility.

[31:00] Now, here was the call to action. Here

[31:01] is it.

[31:03] If you care about Charlie's legacy, if

[31:06] you care about the mission and and the

[31:07] the plan and his worldview, demand

[31:10] better from people running the machine.

[31:12] That's what it is. Demand humility,

[31:15] demand discipline, demand clarity,

[31:18] demand from Erica and others that

[31:22] leadership stop lecturing the base like

[31:25] a problem to be managed. And while we're

[31:28] at it, get rid of Ben Shapiro. What are

[31:31] you doing? Do you not understand what

[31:33] this miserable twit is doing to the

[31:35] cause? For God's sake, who who put him

[31:39] up? You know what I think?

[31:43] I'd be violating my own rule over that

[31:45] one. I got a lot of suspicions about

[31:47] him, but I think you know what that's

[31:48] about. Look, if you care about the

[31:50] movement, if you believe about what

[31:51] Charlie's word was about, refuse this

[31:54] trap of this personality cult infighting

[31:57] and this nonsense and refuse this

[32:00] similar trap of institutional obedience,

[32:02] no o basis. I'm not going to be you're

[32:04] not going to tell me what to think. I'm

[32:05] going to ask questions responsibly. I'm

[32:07] going to share facts, not fantasies. And

[32:10] I'm going to tell the GOP

[32:12] this in plain language. You do not get

[32:15] to win on populist energy while

[32:18] punishing populist skepticism.

[32:23] You're going to need us. You do not get

[32:25] to build a movement on question and

[32:29] inquiry and investigation and then

[32:31] outlaw it when it becomes uncomfortable.

[32:34] We've been through this before. And no

[32:36] more name calling. We've been called

[32:38] racist, conspiracy theorist,

[32:40] anti-semite, unamerican. Done. finished

[32:42] through.

[32:44] That rule doesn't apply anymore. We're

[32:45] done with that. Either we are serious

[32:48] about truth and truth seeking and truth

[32:51] objection, objectific,

[32:58] pick one. That's what we're going to do.

[33:01] Pick one.

[33:03] And my friend, if Turning Point or

[33:04] Ramford, whatever the hell it is, if if

[33:06] they're going to claim it,

[33:09] claim that it stands for truth and

[33:11] courage in the people,

[33:13] then it needs to act like it.

[33:16] It's that simple, my friends. What I've

[33:18] said is nothing that profound, but it

[33:21] needs to be said. And listen,

[33:24] do not worry if what you are saying

[33:28] offends people. Good. It's the stuff

[33:31] that offends people that's interesting.

[33:34] And if you find that you're getting push

[33:35] back, good. Because remember, you only

[33:39] get flack when you're over the target.

[33:43] All right, dear friend. Please like this

[33:45] video. Thank you for the very kind

[33:47] comments. I read them. They're

[33:48] incredible. This is this is a turning

[33:51] point

[33:53] in our American political system. We're

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