Zach Costello Reveals 94% Support for Candace Owens Investigation Into Charlie Kirk Assassination

What's going on everybody? Well, the people have spoken. The people by an overwhelming majority support the Candace Owens investigation into the Charlie Kirk assassination. Most of you guys are aware because I covered it yesterday, but these poll results are final. Look at this. And you can go see this poll for yourself on X. 49,057 votes wherein 94% of the responders say that they support Candace Owens. 6% do not. I can see who reposted this and many who oppose Candace Owens did share this poll and these are still the results. I was even encouraging critics like please begging them share this. I want your side to put their input in. Like I was trying to help the side that opposes Candace Owens and have coordinated this call that she's evil, demonic, etc. I'd say 50,000 votes is a pretty solid sample size given that it was shared over 2,000 times. These numbers are insane, but I am not surprised. All of these large accounts and I want to show you guys this list that everybody is losing their minds over right now. This list, the allegation, the allegation is that these accounts got paid. They're denying it. Um, they're threatening to sue. Threatening to sue. I mean, whatever. The point is is that there was a hive mind type of mentality to attack Candace Owens and it was coordinated by a small proportion of large accounts on X with significant influence. Think of the Pareto principle. 20% 20% of the influencers have 80% of the influence on X. That's what the Pareto principle means. They don't represent what the people actually believe. The thought behind the poll in the first place was I wanted to see what the people believed. And this came from seeing these accounts and their posts and then reading the comments on them. These big accounts, they put out these hit pieces on Candace Owens, these coordinated hit posts. And if you actually go and read the comments, like go and read the comments on them and just look down. like a majority of them that actually like get put out there and get reach, they don't actually agree with the poster. So, I extend the challenge to any one of these accounts, any one of these that you see right here. Do the same poll. My ex account has like a little over 12,000 followers. Like, I'm tiny on X compared to these guys. Follow me now if you guys make it a little bit bigger. But anyway, like put one out these guys. Just put one out. Do it. Ben Shapiro, Gunther Eagleman, Graham Allen, Cat Turd, Cat Turd, do it. Laura Loomer, please. Like, let's see what the results are on your side. Please make it harder on the Candace Owens support side. Do it, you guys. They won't. And they won't because they've seen the comments on their own posts. They know. They know where the people stand on this issue. And I want to show you guys these results, too. We talked about this yesterday. This account, Britta, no soup for Nolles. She is a Candace Owens critic. Her own account and her own poll with over 40,000 followers. She's got more than three times the followers that I do. 59.9%. This is these are final numbers here of responders saying that they watch Candace Owens for pursuit of the truth. The other options are for entertainment hate watcher or just to see the results. 59.9% say that they're following Candace Owens. They're watching Candace Owens. If you watch Candace Owens, why truth? 59.9% on an account that is critical of Candace Owens that Candace Owens has blocked Britta. Britta's profile here. I think I I want to show you guys this Christian wife narrator tweeter filth according to Candace Owens. [laughter] They don't get along. They don't get along. And her own poll her own poll has almost 60% of people saying they watch Candace Owens for Truth. Like this is just another metric. It's another metric you guys that is just showing where the people are on this issue. It's very telling. It's very telling. Which leads us to The Bride of Charlie. [laughter] Candace Owens put out her first episode of her investigation into the history of Erica Kirk. since she is now the CEO of a massively powerful and influential conservative nonprofit organization in America advertising for certain conservative and Christian values across America. Highly influential, highly powerful. Candace laid the groundwork introducing a number of different things about Erica's past. The most important part of the episode was Candace Owens, at least in my opinion, was Candace revealing a shocking Erica Kurt connection that we're going to dig into a little bit today. We'll start there. And then I've got Genesis Gold is today's sponsor. So, we're going to hear from them. And then I've got a special guest, as I've announced, John Yep, the president of Catholics for Catholics, who has been under fire after revealing that Candace Owens is going to be making her first public speaking appearance in forever [laughter] at their upcoming Catholic Prayer for America event. Before we get started, I just want to show you guys, just look at this lineup real quick. Let me bring this up again. Look at this lineup. They've got Candace Owens, General Michael Flynn, Matt Walsh, as long as the Daily Wire gives him that nod. [laughter] Wow. Uh Carrie Pine Bowler uh coming after her firing from the Trump Religious Liberties Commission. So again, this is an organization that's standing up for uh not just Catholic rights, but the rights of all of these Orthodox Christian traditions that we talk about here so much. That's a heck of a lineup right there. A heck of a lineup. But we're going to talk about the heat that they've been getting uh for bringing Candace to this. John knows Candace well. Uh their friend. So, he's going to give us some insight into all of this. He also knew Charlie Kirk well. Uh they worked together. They worked together in the last election. So, I want to I want you guys to understand how John was involved with Charlie Kirk uh and their friendship. And then they've put out some good stuff. uh John has in this organization, Catholics for Catholics has uh in this fight that we're up against against Zionism. So, that should be a great conversation. I'm looking forward to that. Um now, here is what Candace has to say about Erica Kirk. We're going to start there. I'm Zach. Don't have to go into speculation. Let's just give you the facts about more about Jack Solomon. What is factual is that Jack Solomon eventually marries Carla Bronzef in 2002. And there are also some other really interesting facts about Jack. Jack and Erica's aunt, mommy aunt, I don't know, Carla live in Utah. He graduated from what is today known as Utah Valley University. He's very involved in the university. Um it was formerly known as Utah Valley State College when he graduated from there. He also created on their campus the Center for Jewish Studies. I mean, at the very least, you'd think with all of the money that he poured into that university, he might be able to call someone to get us more footage of Tyler Robinson. Or Carla. How about Carla? She's married to the man. She could have maybe, in my imagination, made it to the hospital when Charlie was shot and killed. I mean, why did none of them make it to the hospital? They're all so nearby. She still lives in Utah. This happened in their backyard. Their family has a lot of power at UVU. Why not Auntie Carla rather than Stacy Sheridan accompanying you onto Air Force 2 as your husband's body as escorted to Arizona? Jack Solomon was also a professor at BYU in political science. He's the former director of the university's Jerusalem Center. He also served on the Center for Jewish Studies on the board at UVU. Zion's Gate, like I said, is his dedication. And if you're wondering how Jack got so rich, it's because back in 1968, Jack and his business partner, a man named Norman Vance, began a company called Advanced Patent Technology. That company would go on to manufacture slot machines. You got it. Slot machines. Everybody's It's just amazing. It's like everyone is involved in gambling. Per his bio, in 1974, Jack gathered more than $5 million to purchase United Coin, the manufacturer of slot machines and the holder of a profitable Southern Nevada slot machine um routes. In 1979, they announced plans for the Colorado Bell Hotel and Casino in Lachland, Nevada, the first of a series of hotels to be built in the Las Vegas area. They had a lot of power in that area. Where were they? I don't know. It's an interesting connection. I am marking that for all the YouTubers who are interested in investigation. The gambling thing keeps coming up. And um I guess as me and Charlie used to say, the rest is future. >> All right. So, what you guys need to realize about all of this is the connection now between Erica Kirk and the Jewish Mafia. The Jewish Mafia was fundamental in developing the Las Vegas strip and were in control of Southwest gambling from the late 1940s to 1970s. Look up the names Bugsy Seagull, Meer Lansky, Mo Deise, and Gus Greenbball. Those just to name a few. Look them up. Jewish and Italian American mobsters partnered to fund and manage casinos which helped them bring in clean money and professional management to gambling often with little to no criminal records. And these acted as fronts and you know who provided the model infrastructure and the influence on this whole thing. They modeled this after how Arnold Rothstein who was known as the brain and he was the kingpin of the Jewish mob in New York City. This is how he organized and built his entire crime ring. He provided the model for all of this. But all of this to say, all of this to say is that there might be a connection, which Candace is now finding, between Erica Kirk's family and the Jewish mafia as it relates to gambling in the middle of the 20th century because that gambling influence and all those gambling ties, like all of this ties together. But when you zoom out, we are looking at big-time Jewish players, whether it be in the organized crime or outside of it like like in big business like banking or in alcohol after prohibition like the Rothschilds for example. This is the environment that Jeffrey Epstein also emerged from. So I think this is the connection that Candace Owens is maybe maybe thinking about here is talking about now the fact that Jack Solomon lives in Utah as you just heard Candace described there and graduated from Utah Valley University and created the Center for Jewish Studies. Candace asked, "Why couldn't they use they, as in Erica Kirk, why couldn't she use those connections to get more video footage from UVU?" I asked, "Why couldn't they have helped out with maybe some of the security at the event for their son-in- cousin, nephew-in-law, whatever Charlie was to them on September 10th? Where is the help from the family?" That's the question. Brian Harpal needed the UVU police to put eyes on the rooftops. They said they got it. Maybe those connections could have helped him out a little bit. It's crazy to me that Charlie Kirk was assassinated at the very university that Erica Kirk has family at that founded the Center for Jewish Studies and has a dedicated Zionist gate in Jerusalem on the night after he issued a message saying that he was turning away his support of his own and powerful organization away from the pro-Israel cause. Like it's kind of crazy stuff. It's crazy stuff. But like Candace left it, the rest is future. So, we'll see what else she's uncovered and what comes from it. It's no wonder she's under fire, though. And let's talk about that and the heat and the insights into Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk from their friendship with John Yep. And we're going to do that right after this break from Genesis Gold, which is today's sponsor. And guys, check out this report that they put together for you. It's important stuff in this day and age to be aware that the ground is moving out from under your feet. 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That's costello.com for your immediate dying dollar defense. [snorts] Okay, guys. John Yep is the president of Catholics for Catholics, an organization who has really stepped up here as of late in this battle with Zionists, with Zionism that we're currently facing. Uh, John and Catholics for Catholics caught my attention after announcing that Candace Owens was going to be appearing at their Catholic Prayer for America event. I'm going to bring John in here. John, thank you for joining us here on the Zack Castello show today. Pleasure to be here, Zack. Um, so many people uh I guess we have a lot of fans at Cath for Catholics who love your show. So, when the crowd the crowd spoke, he said, "Get on Zack's show. He's the man." So happy to be here and just talk about it. And it's also just gratitude for what you and so many other podcasters out there have just have just really responded, I think, to a divine kind of call to step it up and speak for truth. >> Yeah, good stuff. I mean, yeah, we we can get into we can get into that. Um, as far as that divine call, which I think personally was was sparked by uh Charlie Kirk. Um, we can get into that a little bit, but let's start here with uh let's start here with Candace Owens. you and your organization, John. Um, you know, you guys are in the trenches right now. You guys are taking arrows for sure. And that that comes after announcing that Candace Owens would be one of your featured speakers at this upcoming Catholic Prayer for America event that I've have been talking about here on this show today. Um, Zionists in particular are calling for your cancellation. Uh, they have a particular problem with this. Um, it seems as though the only acceptable uh form of Christianity is is one that's Zionist approved. Um, so what I want I want what I want you to do is give us the background story and the history on you and Candace Owens and kind of how you got her on board for this. >> Just back up quickly on on our organization. We're young, three years old, and we're all about getting Catholics engaged to fight for America. Whe that's uh, you know, politically election time season, cultural moments. We need Catholics. we need people of all faiths to step it up and uh and truly be America first, one nation under God, right? So that's what we do. Um you know, my part our work has included, as you're going to find out, um direct working relationship with Charlie. We were the uh ballot chasing partners for Turning Point USA in the 24 election, right? So they gave us Charlie and his team gave us 2.1 million names of Catholics in the seven swing states and we ran a huge volunteer team chased down ballots for uh to get President Trump elected and wow >> achieved with the grace of God the largest Catholic landsite in US history. So you know I've had a working relationship with Charlie uh but more importantly of course now because it's not about work it's about friendship and we had a a relationship of faith going back to when Charlie wasn't even famous. my my my family knew him back in Illinois and from Chicago and lived in the same suburb where he Lamont, Illinois, where he started in that uh kind of that shabby little garage of Turning Point, USA. Right. So, we knew him back then. I reconnected with him after I left seminary here in Phoenix. And lo and behold, we're in the same neck of the woods, same part of Phoenix. And uh you know I when I saw him again after kind of being away from him for 10 years in seminary the first question this gets into the whole question was he Catholic was interested in Catholicism whatever whatever and the first thing he says to me was at TPUSA 2022 he says love Catholics so much would you connect me with a Catholic priest I said absolutely and uh which I did um and that priest and several others being very instrumental in Charlie's life and Erica's towards the end right so you know are we would we would have this kind of relationship back back and forth and uh you know he would send me a scripture pay uh quote uh you know every now and then as he did with many other people and I would send him back something too on on our own faith right so it was kind of just a real legit relationship I would see him at Catholic mass you know um he would leave and I would give him fist pumps we kind of head off for our respective HQs to uh do the work of saving America right and um so it was it was a it was a a real true friendship with him that I uh I treasure very much this Okay, Candace Owens, let's talk about her. [snorts] >> Let me ask you something real quick, John. Let me jump in there and ask you a question. >> So, a lot of the problems that, you know, especially Candace has gotten a lot of push back on just bringing up the fact that Catholic or that Charlie had this interest in Catholicism. And I I see it as kind of evident of a more broad shift of a lot of young people kind of taking taking on a little bit more curiosity or being more interested in in more of like the Orthodox uh Christian faith in general. Um a lot of push back that Candace Owens got early on was because she brought up the fact that Charlie was curious about Catholicism. Um >> yeah, go ahead. I mean like what like it sounds like based on what you know because the push back that she's getting is like oh he was only interested in the architecture right it's it's kind of being downplayed why why why is that like and and you probably have some insight it seems like it was more than that >> absolutely and first of all if you're uh you may not be Catholic watching the show you're like why is Zach and John's talking about this is their private little issue or they just trying to take you know chalk one ch talk one more uh convert up to the faith I mean as Catholic that's great we want people to to know our faith. We love the sacraments, etc. That's true. But it it it transcends that, right? And this is why it's important because as Charlie moved, the closer he got to Catholicism, which has been verified, and we can go through those facts or recap all on that, it coincided with his geopolitical shift away from a blind support for the 1948 state of Israel. Those things coincided. So whether you hate Catholics, whether you think this is just some silly Catholic debate, you have to at least acknowledge the fact that this has important because our you know our our our faith teaches very clear about the yes we condemn anti-semitism which is basically hatred of the Jews and Israel's got a right natural right to exist. But >> the thing is what they've been used they weaponized it. It's almost like that foreign entity has weaponized Judaism against our own people against the Jews in this country against Christians with this. You have a biblical mandate to support the 1948 state. No, we don't. Right? So, that shift was happening in Charlie Kirk. Okay. That's why it's a hill worth dying on in that sense. Okay. So, for the doubters out there, let's just recap. And you mentioned the whole architecture. My that's like the word of the day, right? The uh he just he just loved his faith because of the architecture. Now, granted, the church where he went to probably was the best looking church in all of the state of Arizona. Okay? I I believe that it was gorgeous, right? And that's the whole point. You go to a church, it raises you to God, right? But this is malarkey, okay? That it was just architecture, okay? I I was just going through um text with Charlie um Zach before you brought me on just now. I'm just going back just re recapping this and this intertwines with how uh we we connected with Candace. So, flashback. This is May of 2024. Okay. Candace had um just left the Daily Wire past November. The famous Christ the King tweet which shook the world, shot her around the world. She's gone from Daily Wire and uh you know, we're sitting around one day with our team were like, "Wow, she's she she became Catholic." We're waiting for people to like some of our church leaders say, you know, that's awesome. Congratulations. Welcome home. You know, we should do that with every convert. That's what Jesus did when the the sheep or um the prodical son returns, right? So, we said, you know what? How about we just throw like a little celebration for her? Okay. Hey, Candace, welcome home to the Catholic faith. You know, sorry about the lack of welcome you've gotten from some of our leaders, but hey, it doesn't matter. So, we put on a mass here in in Phoenix and we just said, "Hey, this is the most sacred thing we have as Catholics, the Holy Eucharist. Why don't you come to Phoenix?" She came, we did an event with her, and that was that. Well, guess what? So, I'm texting Charlie about this very event. Okay, this is May 2024. Um, and I just really I haven't even shared this text before Zach's it's the first on uh first to to hear this the show. I said, you know, hey, I sent Charlie the link for this welcome home mass. He responds, very cool. Okay. And then I said, Charlie, this little celebration thing we're doing is uh this is what we're going to do for you and turn it up five notches, I say, when you make it home to the Catholic faith. Okay, I was a little maybe a little too bold there, right? you know, um but uh so what did he say? He responded right away and said, "Well, just between us, the priest that said, you know, I connected with you, you know, I've been trying to bring up with him and for some reason we've had a disconnect and unavailability to uh to connect, but and he says this, um I want I've been trying to meet up to discuss architecture." [laughter] No, to get to discuss Catholicism. It's right here in my text messages. Right. Okay. >> Um you know, and he said, "I love Catholicism." Right? So they it was there and then we you know we were texting back and forth. He says I go to mass weekly. I love it. Right there Charlie's messages. Okay. So I don't know why this is actually I think I do know why this architecture false architecture like excuse been pushed not just early on recently. I think it was a friend of Erica's I think it was Tracy who said just recently like yeah Charlie love that's not true. Why would you push that? I mean, I I think as for what I said before, I think if you identify him with a certain faith that has a very clear position about how we should treat the 1948 state of Israel, which is actually America first position, >> that's no bueno for a lot of the donors at TPUSA. >> I mean, I'll pause there. I mean, I'm getting off track, but that's that's that's kind of how I see that happening out playing out. No, that's such an incredible insight and that is the hinge issue here and that is what Candace Owens exposed on day one. There's almost there was almost like this hijacking of Charlie's legacy and it was like no, we're going to bury all of these thoughts that he had where he was thinking about questioning how he was being treated by Zionist donors and and and even exploring a more traditional Catholic faith. Like it's like you know I talked about this on my show like the term supersessionism was orthodox Christian belief for 1000 I guess you can say until dispensationalism was introduced maybe in the what was it the 18th century. Um and that that is where evangelical phase took and what eventually became Christian Zionism. But this return back to or this shift away from what you would say uh Zionism or evangelical Christian Zionism that was clearly taking place in Charlie's life. It it it had political implications. It had religious implications and in the aftermath of his death like that has been the issue that I think has really been sparked here. It's not some shallow left and right debate that we're having. We're actually having a centuries old religious debate which in some way I think is uh is pretty special as it relates to Charlie Kirk. >> It it is it leads into this we're all like trying to understand like who is Erica Kirk right now. Okay. The big series Candace is doing right now and she goes to my parish. I see her in mass right and uh and I don't I'm not I'm not going to judge her soul. That's God's right. But we can judge action. We have we have a duty to do that. It's part of the human experience. You have to judge actions, not intentions. But uh it's like Erica, if this move was happening in Charlie's life, why are we being silent about this? Why why it doesn't make sense. The famous donor that um that the woman that leaked to Candace, remember she was attorney uh she was at the the Kirk funeral and she had that experience and then she was kind of targeted by the I think it was Stacy Sheridan just sought her out in the church, right? This same woman goes to the and she kind she went to Bernardet or because she felt this Catholic aura around Charlie's life. That same woman goes to the TPUSA fundraiser, the Gayla in December where they pulled in $38 million. Uh which is, you know, and she has experienced like, wait a second, you're not even talking about his faith. Like it was very um Shabbat shalomish. Okay. You know, so it's there's a there's a disconnect and I'm not sure why. And you know, we don't have to get too much into Erica Kirk. That is that is probably my biggest problem that that kind of like that kind of sparked my criticism of her in the first place. It's like you knew Charlie was being treated like this. You knew that he was you had to have known that he was having these thoughts both professionally and what he was thinking like politically speaking from his organization, but then also religiously. How could you just how could you allow this after the fact? Like that just doesn't sit right with me? And then you have Turning Point USA, which you know, Turning Point USA faith is full tilt on bringing in all these evangelical Christian Zionist churches and and and she's, you know, no, none of the donors that made Charlie's life a living hell in the last six months of his life are you don't cut ties with them. You just you continue the relationship and it's it's it's frustrating. It really is frustrating and it's and you start to it it begs the question like [laughter] why like why like if you want to continue Charlie's and this is the argument of continuing Charlie's legacy. It seems like just becoming a blind Christian Zionist is not what Charlie wanted as far as his legacy goes. So, >> you know, it was an anecdote right there. Uh TB USA Faith, right? Um you know, and I don't want to throw the baby out the bath. I mean, they do great stuff, but like here's the deal. That's not what Charlie Kirk was. They had an event. I I can get the text that the exact time when it was probably like 2024 that TB USA was having a faith event uh I think it was Oklahoma and uh I saw the speaker lineup and I sent a message to Charlie. I said, "Hey, it's great. I mean, just like in all fairness, it's not like this is DI have everybody every race represented, but I don't see a lot of Catholics on there and or any." and he messaged me back and he said, "Well, you know," he said, he kind of punched back said, "Well, in all fairness, like they didn't respond or something like that." And then I said, "Well, we just did your breakout session in Detroit for the People's Convention with Donald Trump and we had the largest breakout session there and with Catholics and we showed up and and we had we we chased bouts." He said, "You're right. I'm going to correct that in text message." So, that wasn't Charlie. Um Charlie wanted that whole representation because he understood that. So um but yeah anyway I mean it's like so I guess we could like kind of jump to like Catholic prayer for America event you know what is this what is it what's all have what's all the buzz okay canis is coming okay uh as our other speakers right we do this yearly event usually it's not marago once a year prayer gayla uh but it's not your typical prayer we just like hey pray like way up here you name the issues that need to be prayed about >> epste like why aren't church leaders I mean there are a lot yeah who are saying this evil upon our country is still there. We need to be praying to bring accountability pan let's pray for pan bounty. Why why are they arresting people in England over this but not here in the United States. So makes no sense. Catholic [snorts] prayer for America is an event where we we bring the prayer to the heart of what our country needs on the 250th anniversary of the country. Right. So yeah, you're right. She the last time Candace did an event was actually our welcome home mass here in Phoenix. She's sticking her neck out there. It's going to be very safe. And the vents it's there at the Waldorf in DC and uh you know it was it already gets you know eyeballs because some of the speakers there including Candace right the push back has been crazy. Okay. Um and as you get every single day on the show Zach but it kind of got even more uh unhinged when the Carrie Pjon thing I mean you covered on the show. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Is okay. >> Yeah. >> I mean >> yeah my listeners and audience should know about uh Carrie Pjan polar. Is it pawn or is it pine? I've been saying pine and if I'm wrong then you know wouldn't be the first time >> you say it with with with like you know for say it with confidence or whatever >> nobody ever doubts you right it's like first read at a mass Catholic mass and there's some like name in the f old testament they always tell lectures just say it with boldness no one's gonna know right >> if you say it confidently then it sounds right >> I [laughter] think I think it's pan um that's what I've been saying so and Carrie hasn't corrected me yet so >> anyway just to give people just some brief a very quick background Crown Carrie Pine Bowler served on the President Trump. She was selected to serve on President Trump's White House Religious Liberties Commission. There was a hearing that took place, I don't know, maybe about a month, month and a half ago. Carrie Pine Poler asked a um a Jewish individual if if she as a Catholic, if she does not embrace Zionism, does that make her anti-Semitic? The answer to that question that she received was essentially yes. and that created this whole blow up um where she was removed by Dan Patrick who's the head chair of that uh committee and a bunch of Catholics in social media including myself you guys all know this uh you guys John you and you at Catholics for Catholics you guys spoke up as this is an infringement on the rights of a Catholic and these are basically what you're telling us is that you know orthodox Christian belief like it's it's not just Catholics I mean, this is this is what this is what orthodox original traditional Christian teaching has been for, you know, the first two 2,000 years of the church. There are there are it's like 90s something% of Catholic of of Christians worldwide are not Christian Zionists. So, for her to say for her to ask that question, if I as a Catholic do not embrace Zionism, does that make me anti-Semitic? And for that answer to be yes is is a bold answer. And it's also a very dangerous answer given the crackdown that we're seeing lawfare wise, monitoring, tracking, censorship of individuals who have been deemed by organizations like the ADL and uh I think mainly the ADL, but other kind of Jewish lobbying organizations that stop anti-semitism is is another one. But they're going after people and they're literally waging lawfare and playing for keeps when it comes to shutting people down who they deem anti-semitic. And if anti- if being anti an anti-ionist is anti-semitic, then we're approaching a very dangerous time for conservative orthodox Christians in America. >> Absolutely well said. And I think um just further elaborate on the context of that religious liberty commission. Again, Zionism 101 best definition is this uh it's a biblical bibl it's a biblically chart people say well zionism just means you believe that Israel has a right to to a natural right to exist >> that's gaslighting [laughter] >> that would be gaslighting because that's not true >> yeah absolutely so uh relig commission I mean this was not just a blow that happened on whatever it was February 9th this had been building Carrie had been told from early on when she first joined the commission she show shared some of those text messages that basically come out of this commission but don't do any like talking about the Gaza uh war going on there, the genocide, uh don't bring it up. So, she was like kind of under religious liberty was being threatened on a religious liberty commission from the very beginning, right? And then of course she tried to bring of all people Jewish rabbis from New York. I forget the guy the the rabbis name to come and help support her position because they felt like second rate Jews because their first allegiance was to America and not to a foreign entity. Okay that was denied her. So she has this debacle. She says it out. We look at this. We're like what is going on? I didn't know Carrie. I never talked to her before. And um we got put in touch with her and we're you know we saw her like everyone was like just piling on her and some our own Catholic bishops who were also on the panel they didn't even speak up either and I was like what what's going on? So we're like you know what we talked to our team prayed about it we're going to give this girl an award. Okay so the award on March 19th in DC that's what you you got to play you got to play their game. We got to be tough. Okay. either you believe what you believe or like go go find a different profession. So she's gonna get an award March 19th. We address that. Why? Because they're defense of religious liberty. Okay. So that's how we have to be. We are the people. Zach, your poll is is says it everything. The people are behind us. It's just this outsiz impact. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, so Carrie, you know, she's on the board. Of course, Mark Levin, uh, Laura Loomer and others like Seth Dylan, I think they all dog piled on us for doing this silly war. It ain't silly. It's American and she's got her back. >> It's the same attack that you we just saw with Candace Owens in her her latest trailer. It's the same It's the same small proportionate group that has tremendous amount of influence on X that can make a lot of noise when they want to and that's where the attacks come from. But it's not the majority. It's it's not guys like the people the people know. The people know and I think that's what we have on our sides. Like we do have the numbers. We just have to find a way to to organize, galvanize, and unite so that we do have a voice that can stand up against this that we're up against. >> 100%. So, and I and I see it happen. People see it happening. You know, it's uh you know, most of our push back. We're getting a lot of push back. Some of it's bots, right? Which ironically, I think you showed at the beginning of the show um the different podcasters that may have been paid, right? >> May. Make sure you say May. Allegedly. >> Allegedly. >> Allegedly. It's Did you see like the the the one word which is like it's it's like the common denominator on all those posts. It's demon. Okay. >> It's demon. >> Demon. Yeah. >> Interestingly enough, we've been bombarded with emails since we announced Candace and Carrie and others. Um but recently, last 24 hours since our series, what's the number one word that's on those anti- whatever emails? Candace emails. Demon. >> Demon. >> Um interesting. Right. So, they're they're coordinated. They're good. They're good at what they do. Um, but we're also not stupid, right? And, uh, so >> and I think it's really important that you say that. It's like we're not stupid and there's a lot of people that really just are good faith seekers of the truth and we really just want to know the truth and we have been lied to time and time again from those in power and from the authorities and from the institutions. And people are very aware of what's going on and we can smell the BS from a mile away. And I'll say this, like it is the people that that practice the faith that practice the faith. And I'm not just I'm not just obviously I'm Catholic. Everybody here knows that I'm Catholic. But the individuals that practice the that practice our Christian faith and are committed to it and know the history of it, like these are the people that are the most based, they're the least influenced by government authority and propaganda. And this has always been the case. those individuals who ascribe and commit their life and their and put their faith in God and not any man or party or individual on this earth. These are the individuals that are the hardest to control. We saw it during COVID. We've seen it where we're seeing it with the Epstein files. We're seeing it with the Charlie Kirk investigation. like it is the it is the it is the truly and deeply deeply religious that always cause the biggest problems for those who are in power and who try to control others. And this is a moment and I'm I'm I'm excited for for this time that we live in because as as ironic as it sounds is we are living in a time where it's going to be harder to to be an Orthodox Christian. It's going to be harder to be it's going to be hard. harder to be a Catholic. It's harder to be Orthodox. It's harder to be a nonzionist ultimately is what it comes down to. But it's like, guys, we get to now put our put put our lives and and be in line with the church that has been has been persecuted for the last 2,000 years. It's like it's kind of an honor when you think about it. like we get to step up as kind of a militant lay really for the first time in history because it's been clergy throughout the the past that have really had to step up. But this is kind of a unique time in history where it's like this is a this is a massive movement amongst the lay in Christianity to really to really fight for the faith and it's it's kind of exciting when you think about it. >> It's very American too. You're saying very much so followers of God are the hardest to control because it was designed like that. America was born out of that reporting to a higher power than government right declaration. We appeal to the supreme judge as Charlie Kirk would say that supreme judge was Christ. That's how the founders understood that. So they appeal to Jesus Christ in the declaration of independence at the end. And we do the same and that's what kind of whole it makes us stronger like that. So I think it's uh it's crucial right now more than ever. People of faith uh understand that you so many other podcasters that just come up on my radar recently are doing and that's awesome. >> Yeah. Yeah. Our allegiance to is to Christ and no one else. Right? That's it. That's it. It's not about it's not about left or right. It's not about Republican, Democrat. Now, there are different sides that align more with our Christian faith. And we as Christians need to sit in a place of discernment and discern which party, which individual or politician that we're going to put in there best serves our interest. But we have to remember that our allegiance is to Christ and the church and that's it. That's it. Right. So, yeah, good stuff. Um, all right, John. Man, this was a great conversation. I feel like I could talk to you for [laughter] for hours. This is this is good stuff. I feel like we're we got to cut short, though. We don't have to cut short, but we we have to we should probably bring the cigar, Zach. >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. Well, I mean, I will very much be looking forward to seeing you at this event. Can you uh give these details? And for everybody that does, John will give the details. And for everybody that needs to know, we've got a link. It's a special link down in the show notes of this video for you guys to go. You get a pretty significant discount. John's been very nice to give to give uh all of the Zack Costello fans here a discount on on uh on a ticket to this >> $225 discount. Okay, Costello. Right. That's >> it's And I asked him I asked you to bump it up a little bit more and you did. So, I appreciate that. But give us uh give us the details here, John. >> All right, so links in the in the show notes, but uh register there. It's cfrc.com/p prayer and use promo code costello. Okay, all caps. And you're going to save $225 on your ticket purchase. Okay, so that takes you down quite a bit. $225 off for the fans of the Zack Costello show. So completely worth it. Zach's going to be there in person. Okay, so this is your uh your your opportunity to meet him as well and many other people. And just also if you're going to come, if you can't come, make of this about what it's about. Prayer is what gave birth to America. Prayer is what's going to sustain America in these nest next 250 years. Where funny enough, last thing I'll say is we're actually on we're connected our group Catholics for Catholics is connected to the Religious Liberty Commission, believe it or not. And why? Because uh President Trump, to his credit, on September 8th, announced as part of the initiatives of the commission the America Praise campaign. Okay. The desire of President Trump to bring prayer back to America. Okay. We're one of the 15 uh partners with the White House on this. So, we're doing what we uh we signed up to do. So, to bring prayer back to the nation. So, consider coming. It' be amazing if you can make it. And uh yeah, we'll just uh looking forward to more uh great podcasts from uh from team Candace, Team Truth. >> Yeah, good stuff, John. And I I appreciate you coming on. And and guys, like John said, I'm going to be there. I would love to to meet some of you. Um, so if you guys can make it, go and check out that link. Um, get signed up, use that promo code, and I would love to be able to meet you and hang out with you. We can listen to, we listen to Candace a lot here, Matt Walsh, General Michael Flynn, Carrie Pine Bowler, and then others. It should be a great event. John's also going to be there. So, if you want to come hang out with us, that's a that's a great opportunity to do so. Um, if you have any questions about that, you can also email me at zackzacostello.com. But, um, John, great stuff, man. I really appreciate you coming on and I will uh look forward to seeing you here soon. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. All right, guys. That is going to be it for today. Um let me quickly go through some of these super chats here. I appreciate you all sticking through and and watching us today. Uh I thought that was a great conversation with John. Wow. Um I'm uh I'm I'm excited. That was good stuff. I thought those insights into his relationship with Charlie Kirk were were phenomenal. Um, really cool stuff. Really cool stuff. And I think a good counter to a lot of the messaging that we hear from the Zionist side of things who are really trying to hijack Charlie's legacy. I mean, that's that is what a lot of this comes down to. Um, that's one of the things that Candace called out very early on. So, it's cool to see uh somebody with firsthand experience with Charlie and watching Charlie kind of develop in his Catholic faith. I mean, John had a first f firstand experience to that and that was that was cool. That was really good insight there. Um, good morning, Mr. Zack. Thank you for all you do and sharing the truth. God bless. Thank you, Sarah, for the super chat and the donation. We've got Dean here gifting five Zack Costello memberships. Awesome. Good stuff. I appreciate that. Uh, make sure you guys become a member. We're going to have a membersonly show on a day here next week. Be on the lookout for that. And um yeah, we're going to do that next week. So, I'll pick a day trying to figure out which day. Paul Pearson, thank you. Thank you for what you do. I appreciate you, man. I'm just here trying to do the work that I think God put me on this earth to do. Feels good, though. Feels good. I like the heat. I like the battle. Did God make me to be on X and, you know, battling trolls? I don't know. But hopefully we're making a difference. [laughter] Oh, okay. Zach, I will not doubt Candace ever. I just hope we are still on the path to find the truth about what slash who killed Carly Charlie Kirk. Yeah, I mean, I think that that that's what all of us truly want. We all truly just want to be on the path toward the truth, especially as it relates to what happened to Charlie Kirk. And I think that Candace I think that Candace is I think that she still is. I mean I've talked about this before. Candace is conducting an open- source investigation. She's she has a wide reach. She's got a lot of connections. She is finding these leads. She's presenting them to find out more. Sometimes we we chase a lead. Sometimes we go down a rabbit hole that ends up empty. Sometimes it's a dead end. And and that's okay. I mean, a lot of her critics and a lot of her opponents always like to take those times where maybe she was speculating or maybe she was pursuing a lead that turned out to be false and they use it as like, "Oh, the whole thing's debunked." And that's just totally not fair. Look, I mean, you guys just heard me and John talk about it. We live in a day and age where we haven't been told the truth for a long time. And as far as I'm concerned, you do that again and again and again. We the people, we're smart. We see what's going on. We're not just going to be told what to do. like we we we want the truth. We want to live in a world where truth reigns, where virtue and and and Christ is king. Like like this is the world that we want to live in. So if we see something that is that doesn't add up or is that that's working against that, like we're going to we're going to get after it. We're going to you get a Candace Owens if this is how you're going to treat us for years and years and years and years. Thanks for that comment. The Catholic Strategist. Wow. Became a member. Awesome. Thank you. like that handle. Cool. Uh Paul Pearson, let's start coining Candace, the angel of truth. [laughter] Hey, look, she's a human being. Candace is a human being, and I I like to keep it that way. Let's let's keep her as a human being, right? She's a human being that's doing her best. And I think she's doing a good job. I think she's doing a good job. I don't think that the criticism that she gets or her opponents, I I don't think they treat her fairly. And this has been the case since day one. And um but we I have no expectation that Candace Owens is going to be perfect or that she's gonna be perfect or that she's not going to get angry or that she's not going to make mistakes like this happens when we make her something that she's not then when you know those mistakes inevitably happen or when she doesn't act perfectly then like that that just creates more ammunition for the other side. She's a human being and she's doing her best and I'm you know and as far as that goes like I think she's doing she's doing a good job. Mary Garcia, thank you. Thanks for the wonderful podcast, Zack. God bless both Zach and John. Thank you. Yeah, I I thought that was awesome. I really enjoyed that conversation with John. That was good stuff. I hope you guys got good value from that and I hope you got value from the rest of the show as well. Uh it's me, Pretty Pink. Thank you for becoming a member. Bulletproof Garage, what's up, man? Yeah, I appreciate you. I saw some good comments from you yesterday. As a Christian, I was praying for Israel after October 7th. By the grace of God, we were blessed with wisdom to ask questions and open our eyes. It's about discernment. Erica at Bulletproof Garage. So, I'm sorry. Is your name Erica? If I called you man, I really apologize for that. I need to get better with the adjectives that I use to describe people, but um if your name is Erica, then my guess is that you're not [laughter] a man. So, but anyway, thank you. Thank you very much for the comment. Um, [snorts] as a Christian, I was praying for Israel after October 7th. Me too. Me too. I I I obviously any of us who are truth seeeking saw what happened on October 7th and and it was terrible. Leave aside the the governments and the organizations that were involved in in that whole thing. whether whether you know Hamas truly wanted to exterminate uh uh Jews or whether or not there was a standout order by the Israeli government. Leave that aside ultimately innocent people were killed and that is wrong. That is wrong. The response when you apply, for example, Catholic just war theory or Catholic just war teaching or doctrine to how Israel responded, there are pretty clear signs that they went beyond what would be considered a just response to to that attack on October 7th. Um, I think that that is a very fair criticism of of what Israel did in the aftermath of October 7th. Um, but yes, we were blessed with wisdom to ask questions and open our eyes and that's who we are and that's what we're going to continue to do. Like as Christians, we are going to advocate for the side of truth and love of all people and all rights. It's like we are a religion of of ultimately nonviolence and we can be effectively nonviolent. Um we can defend ourselves, we can stand up for ourselves and we can obviously like self-defense is a part of just war teaching. But you know when it goes above and beyond that regardless of the group religious or secular that's being that's being attacked or being killed like it's our responsibility to step up. We are the ones that are not in We are the ones that cannot be controlled. We are the ones that speak out to authority regardless of what side they think we're on. Christians are problems and I like it that way. Thanks for the comment, Erica. Bulletproof God. Thank you, Adrian. Uh I like how I like how you looking to the camera and try saying it with your chest. Also, at least bringing somebody out that can verify what he says. I like how you're looking into the camera and say it with your chest with your chest out. Also, at least bringing somebody out that can verify what she says. Um, I don't know if I'm understanding your comment fully. As far as like me talking to the camera and saying it with my chest, like anything that I say here, I believe. [laughter] If I turn out to be wrong and that's proven, like I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong, too. I'm I know I'm not perfect. I know I'm not perfect. like I've been wrong before. I'll be wrong again. But I'm going to sit here. I'm I'm going to say what I believe to be true. Yeah. With my chest out. And if you're talking about John being someone that can verify um what she says though, like John verified some of the things that Charlie says, maybe I'm misunderstanding you. But in any case, I'm very thankful for the comment and uh and thank you. I appreciate you. Uh JV Pard became a member. Awesome. Good stuff. All right, last one here, guys. Uh, Anastasia [sighs] Mitchell, thank you. My algo brought me here. I saw Candace's face on your thumbnail, so I clicked. Thank you for being on the right side. Well, thank you for joining, and hopefully you can find that. Um, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm talking about Candace right now. I cover a good amount of what Candace is talking about. Um, I've said this to you guys before. The two issues that I care most about right now are the Charlie Kirk assassination and its uh consequences on Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk obviously coming into it. Candace Owens is the prime mover in that space. Um, and I'm also extremely interested and invested in uh Zionism and its effect on American media, politics, and government. So, those are the issues that I cover for the most part on a daily basis. And yeah, there's been a lot of coverage of Candace because she is the prime mover in the Charlie Kirk investigation. Like I see people like, you know, opponents will criticize me and be like, "Oh, you've only built your platform off of Candace Owens." Like, actually, my platform and my YouTube channel was growing a lot faster when I was talking about Trump and and the election and Elon Musk and Doge and and being a kind of a MAGA fanboy. Like go and look at go and look at social blade if you want to see how fast my channel grew up to 200,000 subscribers. Like it happened over the course of like I mean from the summer of from the summer of 2024 through February at last year like I was over 200,000 subscribers and I went from like 5,000 to 200,000. Like it was crazy explosive growth because I was talking about the election. I was talking about Trump. like I was a MAGA fanboy. My account grew like crazy. I went through a phase. Oh, this is a really good This is Oh, wow. This is This is good. Happy anniversary, everybody. It is the anniversary of the binder release for the Epstein Files. And you know why that is an interesting little segue into what I was just talking about? Because it was at that moment, this time last year, where I did a video after I was a, you know, big Trump advocate, big MAGA guy, really wanted him to win the election. I thought he was going to be be the guy that was going to go in and he was going to get the American government working back on behalf of the American people. Like, this is the guy that couldn't be bought. He was truly going to go in and be the guy of the people. I really believe that in Donald Trump. Make America healthy again. Big time add-on to it. But I care a lot about my health. I care a lot about what goes into my body. And I care a lot about what goes into my kids' body, my kids' bodies. My wife cares a lot about this stuff, too. RFK Jr. coming in, make America healthy again. And I I think that part of the administration, I think, overall has done a pretty good job. I'm not I'm not blackpilled on the entire administration. I'm very upset about how Trump has handled the Epstein files because I thought that that was a betrayal of he chose the elites over us. He chose the elites over the people. It was a it was a middle finger to the people as far as that goes. And this is the one-year anniversary of the binders. And when that came out, I was pissed. I was pissed. And because I had built my account as kind of a MAGA fanboy, I put out a video that was like, "Pam Bondi lied to us. This is ridiculous. I'm pissed. And I lost like a thousand subscribers from that video. And I was like, what the hell? Like, so this is what this is. So this is what this is. If I if I only put out stuff that's super positive about the administration, this is how it's going to go. This is what my YouTube platform has grown into. And I was just like, you know, I don't know. That's not who I want to be. That's not who I want to be. So, I went through a period over the course of the summer where I didn't my my heart wasn't really in it because I had kind of dissenting views or criticism of the administration, especially with how they handle the Epstein files. You know, I was right. I was right. But now I'm in a position to where like, you know, I don't care. I don't care. And what has caused all of this is that is is has been just the pursuit of truth. And what really invigorated me and fired me back up again was unfortunately the death of Charlie Kirk. And I was going through a phase where I was like, I don't know if I want to I don't know if I want to continue this. I'm not just a Trump fanboy. Like is my heart really into this? And then Charlie got killed. And I realized at that point where is as I was like, "All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna stand for what I believe to be the truth and I'm going to fight for the faith." And that when Charlie died, something in me, I don't know, a switch flipped to where I was like, if they're willing to kill for for these ideas, in the arena of ideas, if people are willing to kill in this arena, then it must be extremely important work. And that's where I resolve to be like, "All right, I'm going to I'm going to step up. Nobody's I'm not going to be the next Charlie Kirk, you know. Nobody nobody I mean nobody's can be the next Charlie Kirk. He was an a unique individual that God made. Everybody made us differently. But I am going to be I'm going to pick up I'm going to I'm going to pick up some of the armor and I'm going to go and I'm going to and I'm going to continue in this fight. And that's what I've done. And and what I've found here since is is almost some peace in talking about the things that I'm talking about now. and and uh the growth the growth that I've had over the last 6 months since Charlie passed away is significantly slower than any growth that I got as a fanboy for the administration that that's in charge that's in charge right now. go and look at accounts that like there were accounts that were smaller than me at the time that have just absolutely taken off. Um, you know, I'm not I don't want to I'm not hating on anybody, but you go to a guy like Deerey Darkens. Uh, you go to a guy like, uh, Matt Morris TV. Um, these guys, their accounts have just skyrocketed and they've just been generally just kind of supporters of the administration. If they believe in it, that's fine. They're doing what they believe to be the truth. But I'm just saying like you look at an account like Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson's account has has my goodness, it's exploded over the last two years. He had under a million like not that long ago. And he's I haven't looked at his account recently, but it's it's like 5 million maybe plus or minus. That's massive growth. So people criticize Candace Owens for like you know Candace Owens growth has been fairly steady. mine is kind of, you know, it's it's on it's on some of the somewhat of the uptick now, but like the big time, you know, gaining of subscribers and the big- time influence isn't isn't this kind of segment of the right that we are in right now. Like that's not where the the massive growth or the explosive growth comes from on social media. That's not it. But as it all comes down to it, like yeah, I'm covering Candace and I guess kind of the where where we just got that was a rant. Wow. But what got me started on that was that yeah, I have a lot of coverage of Candace Owens now since Charlie Kirkus passed away because she's been leading the charge of the investigation, which I really care about. And she's also been getting a lot of heat. You know, it's funny. You have all these accounts that are very critical of Candace Owens that that will come at someone like me or other guys who who are talking about the coverage that Candace Owens is providing in the in the Charlie Kirk investigation and they'll say like, "Oh, you've only built your platform on Candace." It's like, "Dude, you're doing the same thing. You're just doing it from the negative side." [laughter] Like, what are you talking about? like you've got these massive accounts on X and on, you know, whatever social media that's sharing your stuff because you're attacking Candace. So, I mean, you're just doing it from the other side and you're doing it because she's an in she's one of the most influential people talking about one of the most important topics right now. It's like, okay, every people are everybody's talking about Erica Kirk from the negative side, from the positive side, and it's because she is one of the main people right now in the center of attention. It's like this is how it works. like you talk about the important issues that are going on and there are certain people that end up as the prime movers of these issues. So, here we are. This is what we're talking about. Anyway, wow, that that that comment really got me really got me going there. [laughter] Oh, man. And that got me a couple more super chats, but I got to get I'm going to get through these here, guys, because I got to get rolling here today. We're over an hour and that's longer than I normally like to go. Um, PS, I was just saying that opposed to the bots calling her a demon. Yeah, okay, I got you. Yeah, thanks for that clarification. Uh, I appreciate that, Adrien. No, you didn't read it right. I like your boldness in supporting Candace. All right, cool. Thank you. Yeah. All right. I appreciate that. That's what I thought you were saying, but I wasn't 100% sure. And I I don't, you know, I want to be delicate with with some of these comments. I don't want to m misrepresent what you guys are saying here. So, I appreciate it. Yeah. Um, hey, we're gonna come out with our chest out. We're gonna stand on what we believe on what we believe in and what we have to say. I appreciate you. Uh, Mushroom C4 [laughter] Mushroom, thank you for becoming a member. I appreciate you. Thank you. Uh, thank you for the donation. Determinator, Jesus Christ is the only way for us to seek truth. Freedom is all about questioning authority. 100%. [gasps] 100%. Like it's it's so frustrating that you know people always say like oh Jesus you know he I don't see you acting like a Christian like Jesus came like you should be peaceful you should be kind. You should be accepting of others. It's like no like that's that that's not that wasn't that wasn't Jesus. Like read the gospels. I swear, man, people say these things like and I don't think they've actually read the gospels and they actually read the life of Jesus or they read the life the lives of the first Christians like in Acts of the Apostles in the history and what it actually took like the lives that were put on the line, the lives that were given up. Jesus, the way that he went at the authority like Jesus like what Jesus was is he was the figure. He was the free speech mechanism. Like Christ is the logos. Christ is the the the that which sets things right. Like we talk about like the this this universal principle of that which sets things right. Like that is what we are talking about when we're talking about Christ. He's the ordering mechanism. He's the he's that which sets things right throughout all of creation and all of life. He's that which sets things right within us. And when things are not right, when things are chaotic or overly ordered or tyrannical, like the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit is that which sets things right, which gets them back in order, back in alignment with God. This is who we are. This is who we are. So when we see tyranny, when we see injustice, we are the ones that are like we're the body of Christ. Like we're the church. like we we are the ones that act in in accordance with the spirit to set the world back right. Dolores, thank you for the super sticker. Awesome. I really appreciate you. Adrian became a member. Good stuff. All right. And then last one here. Anastasia, I've subbed. I will be back. Have a wonderful day. It was nice to meet you. Christ is king. Thank you for being here and thank you for the super chats. I really appreciate And then last one here, super sticker. All right, guys. Thank you for being with me today. Um, hey, if you can make it, and I understand I understand the price tag. 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