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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeBrandon Tatum Breaks Down the Charlie Kirk Assassination Investigation and Common Misconceptions
Brandon Tatum, a former police officer with extensive crime scene investigation experience, provides critical insight into the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation. With firsthand knowledge of proper investigative procedures and use of force protocols, Tatum addresses the widespread conspiracy theories and misinformation circulating online. He explains the forensic evidence, the significance of Tyler Robinson's parents turning him in to authorities, and why the FBI's handling of the case demonstrates legitimate investigative work rather than a cover-up. Tatum emphasizes the importance of understanding legal procedures, probable cause statements, and digital forensics before jumping to conclusions about what happened.
Angel Studios' Tribute to Charlie Kirk
Representatives from Angel Studios expressed deep gratitude for Charlie Kirk's support of their company. They emphasized how Kirk stood by them during both challenging and successful times. The studio's leadership acknowledged the profound impact Kirk had through the countless connections he made throughout his life, stating their commitment to continue spreading good news in his memory.
Brandon Tatum's Unique Perspective on the Investigation
Brandon Tatum, a former law enforcement officer with extensive experience investigating crime scenes and murders, has emerged as a voice of reason in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. His background as a first responder who had to make sense of crime scenes gives him unique insight into the investigation process. Tatum has been creating content on YouTube that provides a calm, steady voice amid the chaos of conspiracy theories and misinformation.
Tatum's approach combines his law enforcement training with what he describes as godly wisdom in how he disseminates information to his followers. He distinguishes between people who are simply lost and don't understand investigative procedures versus those who knowingly spread misinformation for clicks and subscribers.
Understanding the Investigation Process
According to Tatum, most civilians lack access to the records submitted to court, text messages, witness interviews, suspect interviews, and forensic evidence. He emphasizes that people spreading theories online haven't interviewed anyone involved in the case and have no actual evidence to support their claims.
For those wanting to understand what's happening in the case, Tatum recommends reading the affidavit and probable cause statement submitted to court. He explains that law enforcement agencies cannot lie, deceive, or include false information in these documents, as they are sworn under penalty of perjury. If evidence doesn't support what's stated in these documents during trial and initial hearings, the entire case gets thrown out.
Tatum finds it unreasonable to believe that someone like Kash Patel and his team would risk their entire careers and legacies to botch what he calls "the most important case of our lifetime."
The Unprecedented Nature of Parental Involvement
One of the most unusual aspects of this case is Tyler Robinson's parents turning him in to authorities. For 33 hours after the assassination, Robinson remained at large while the FBI worked to identify him from images they had obtained. They received approximately 10,000 tips, which they followed up on, but hadn't yet identified the suspect.
Robinson's mother identified him from the images and confirmed with his father that it was indeed their son. The father then convinced Tyler to turn himself in, coordinating with a deputy sheriff neighbor to facilitate the surrender without a SWAT team conducting a dynamic entry.
Tatum finds it unreasonable to believe that a father would willingly turn in his son knowing he could face the death penalty unless he was confident his son had committed the crime. According to the FBI, Robinson actually confessed to his parents that he did it, though Tatum explains there's a difference between confessing to family and pleading not guilty in court.
The Legal Strategy and Court Proceedings
Tatum believes the legal battle isn't about whether Robinson is guilty or not, but rather about trying to avoid the death penalty. This explains why the defense didn't want cameras in the court and wanted Robinson to appear in plain clothes rather than prison attire.
A person can confess to their parents while still pleading not guilty in court as part of a legal strategy to avoid the death penalty. This is a common approach in capital cases and doesn't indicate a conspiracy or cover-up.
Digital Evidence and Forensic Analysis
The investigation includes substantial digital evidence, including a Discord chat where Robinson allegedly wrote something to the effect of, "Hey guys, I don't know if you saw the news, but it was me in Utah." The FBI is investigating all 20 people who were part of that Discord chat.
Tatum explains that most people don't understand forensics. The FBI conducted a forensic extraction of all content on Discord from Robinson's communications with that chat and every other chat he's been involved in. They also extracted communications from all 20 people in every chat they've participated in.
Additionally, investigators extracted all electronic communications between Robinson and his boyfriend (a transgender individual). While Tatum acknowledges that some people find the communication style in these messages confusing or suspicious, he points out that without evidence of how Robinson communicates in all his other text messages, it's impossible to make a true judgment about whether anything is actually suspicious about word choices like "vehicle."
Cell Phone Tracking and Location Data
Beyond message content, investigators can track Robinson's cell phone location data and metadata. A new witness came forward claiming they spotted someone on the roof approximately a week before the assassination. Investigators can use cell phone forensics to determine whether Robinson was at that location a week prior.
The affidavit submitted to court states that investigators found searches and Google Maps searches of the university on Robinson's phone. Forensic analysis can determine how much time he spent on particular sites and other details that are part of the ongoing investigation.
The Difference Between Good Faith Confusion and Deliberate Misinformation
Tatum draws a clear distinction between people who are genuinely confused about the case because they lack investigative experience and those who should know better but spread misinformation anyway. He compares the situation to police shootings he covers, where many people don't understand use of force policy, relevant laws, or how laws are prosecuted, leading them to reach incorrect conclusions despite good intentions.
The difference that angers Tatum most is between someone who is mistaken in good faith with good intentions versus someone who knows better but deliberately spreads "hatred and stupidity" to get clicks, subscribers, and make money.
The Call for Patience and Trust in the Process
Tatum's message is ultimately one of patience: let investigators do their job. If during the trial, with proper cross-examination, it becomes clear that authorities haven't done their job properly, then it's appropriate to judge them on that basis. But premature conclusions based on incomplete information and misunderstanding of investigative procedures don't serve justice.
He acknowledges that people are hurting and looking for answers, and many genuinely don't know what they're talking about. He extends grace to those individuals while maintaining that the truth needs to be spoken regardless of whether it fits popular narratives circulating on the internet.
Video Transcript
our good friends at Angel [music]
Studios. I love Angel Studios. Amazing
new film This [music] Holy Week.
Phenomenal. In fact,
>> as I think about Charlie's life and how
much of a support he was of Angel, it's
hard not to [music] feel so grateful for
what he did. He supported us in our
darkest days and in our brightest
[music] hours as a company. Man, are we
grateful to have gotten to be a little
connection in the multitude [music] of
connections that he made throughout his
life because it was so impactful to us.
Thank you, Charlie. [music]
Love you. We miss you. We're going to
continue to drive forward the good news.
You have been I mean, I don't want to
give some of these people too much time.
>> It's not my job to do that. Uh but you
have been tremendous I think with in the
aftermath in the aftermath of Charlie's
assassination and some of the conspiracy
theories that have been spreading you
have been tremendous in just adding a
voice of common sense. I I would say
because you were an officer.
[clears throat]
>> You had investigated crime scenes.
You've investigated murders. You've
investigated you you've been the first
guy on a scene that has to make sense of
what's just happened. And I think you
you h have brought so much just I I say
common sense but but really just wisdom
and kind of a a calm steady voice. And I
think more people need to know about
your videos. I think more people need to
be watching you on YouTube because it's
weird when you're in this situation and
you talk to people that actually know
what they're talking about or that we're
there or that u you I mean all of our
friends were there but then you so so
you have the firsthand accounts then you
actually have there's a legal team
that's coordinating with the authorities
and you see it all and then you see what
people are saying online you're like
well that's not true that's not true
that's not true that's not true
>> and you know and then you're you We're
in a position where yeah, we we it's an
ongoing investigation. There's only so
much we can say. There's, you know,
things that could be said and used
against us in the court of law if we say
say certain things. But you've been
tremendous. And I just wanted to say
thank you for that. And, you know, from
that vantage point, uh, tell us like
kind of what you're seeing. What are
some of the common mistakes that people
are making and kind of as they're
processing this? And I just want to say
one last thing and then I'm throwing it
to you. I do have a lot of grace for
because a lot of people out there are
not investigators. They don't have a law
enforcement background and they love
Charlie and they want to get truth. They
want to get justice. So, I do have a lot
of grace. I understand why there's
distrust, but please, the floor is
yours.
>> Well, thank you so much for saying that.
You know, it this stuff is very simple.
You know, all you have to do is have
some type of experience like I do. I was
trained on investigating. I investigated
crimes myself. I testified in court. And
you have that plus you have wisdom and
you're reasonable and you believe in
God. So then you have godly wisdom in
how you should articulate or put out
information or disseminate information
to the people that God has given you
that follows you. And like you said,
Andrew, like I understand that people
are hurting and people are looking for
answers and people don't know what
they're talking about a lot of the times
and they're doing it in good faith, but
they're just lost. It's like almost
every police shooting that I cover. A
lot of people don't understand use of
force policy. They don't understand the
law. They don't understand how the law
is prosecuted. And so, they are off on
it even though they have good
intentions. Now, there's a difference
between someone who's off on it in good
faith with good intentions versus
someone who know better and just out
there spewing hatred and stupidity
because they want to get clicks and
subscribers and make money off of it.
That that is the difference. That is the
difference between the anger point for
me is that if somebody just don't know,
I get it. I mean, people don't
understand investigations, but then
people who should know better that's
saying it is the ones that bother me the
most. This stuff is very simple. You're
like, if you really want to know what's
going on in the case as a civilian
person, right? We don't have access to
um records that they've submitted to
court. We don't have text messages. We
haven't no none of these people that are
out here talking has interviewed
anybody, witnesses, suspects, parents.
They have no evidence. They didn't look
at forensics, so they have no idea what
they're talking about. Um, however, if
you as a civilian person, if you want to
know or get a a synopsis of what could
happen and what evidence they may have,
read the affidavit. Read the probable
cause statement that was submitted to
court. When you write a probable cause
statement as a law enforcement agency,
you cannot lie or deceive or put
information in that's not true. Because
when you get to trial and they have the
initial hearing, if you don't have
evidence to what you've said, which
you've sworn under penalty or perjury,
that is true, your case is completely
thrown out. And you cannot convince me
somebody like Kesh Patel and those guys
are willing to throw away their entire
career and legacy to botch the most
important case of our lifetime. It just
wouldn't happen. Yeah.
>> Can I ask you ahead, you know, and and
and in in cases you've covered or worked
on, you know, worked on directly or
covered. I know you obviously you
mentioned police and you have covered so
many use of force cases, which is
another example where misinformation
comes up so many times when and people
believe they're, you know, choose your
own narrative. It almost comes comes to.
>> Have you ever seen a case where a father
turned his own son into law enforcement
like this? because I I've been
scratching my brain and that's really
not something you see a lot.
>> Yeah, I've never Now, it it could be
possible depending on if the father was
involved in something, you know, all of
that stuff, but in this case, that's not
the case, right? This is not a lover's
triangle or something weird situation
where the dad is involved in the crime.
This is a mom who identifi You got to
think the FBI didn't catch him uh
initially. They didn't know who he was.
>> So, for 33 hours, Tyler Robinson is on
the loose and they have these images
that And they're getting tips online,
too. They got 10,000 tips or something
like that, which they followed up on,
but he's online. He's out there, and
they don't they haven't identified him
yet. His mother identifies him. She
confirms with his father that it's him.
The father convinces him to turn himself
in. They communicate with the deputy
sheriff, uh, a neighbor who coordinated
him to be to turn himself in without
obviously the SWAT team coming to his
house and doing a a dynamic entry. So I
find it to be unreasonable to believe
that somehow his dad is want to want to
get him the death penalty for what
reason? When you turn your son in
knowing that he committed a crime such
as this, which is an assassination, an
intentional murder, he premeditated it
and he did it for political reasons. And
when you say, "I'm going to turn my son
into the authorities," you are turning
him in knowing he can get the death
penalty. No father would do that unless
they are pretty confident that their son
has done this. Now, according to the
FBI, he actually confessed to his
parents that he did it. Now, there's a
difference between a confession and
pleading not guilty in the court of law.
A person can confess to their parents,
but you can plead not guilty because you
want to not, you know, end up getting a
death penalty. So, in my opinion, I
think the fight is not whether he's
guilty or not. The fight is to try to
not allow him to get the death penalty,
which is why they didn't want the
cameras in the court, which is why they
wanted to address in plain clothes.
>> You're making way too much sense. And by
the way,
>> you're making way too much sense,
Brandon Tatum, stop making so much
sense.
>> It's in addition to that, we have that
Discord chat that came out where he
said, you know, I don't have it in front
of me, but it's something to the extent
of, "Hey guys, I don't know if you saw
the news, but it it was me in Utah."
They had 20 people on their Discord
chat, which the FBI is investigating all
20 of them. And the thing is, people
don't understand people don't understand
forensics, right? There's a forensic
extraction of all the content on Discord
from his communication with him with
that chat and every chat he's been on
and all 20 people in every chat that
they've been on. Also, the electronic
communication between him and his
boyfriend or girlfriend or what whatever
that it's a boy, the transgender person.
um the communication that people don't
have access to because they showed a
synopsis, but they have extracted all
the content from his phone and the other
guy's phone in in the relationship. And
also, no one I know that it to some
people that have never investigated
anything and they look at they say,
"Well, it's kind of confusing the way
he's communicating with the transgender
person." But unless you have uh evidence
of how he communicates in his other text
communication, you cannot make a true
judgment on whether or not it's
suspicious him using the word vehicle
and different things of that nature.
>> Well, and not only that, but you're
you're talking forensics, but that would
also that would also my now my my
experience is more okonus, right?
Because uh as an intel officer, but it's
you know a lot of the same metadata, the
same electronic collection that we'd be
using. So you they could track his cell
phone and if he had gone to that that
and and there's this new witness that's
come out that said they spotted someone
on that roof. I think it was a week
prior and they're what of course they're
going to do with that cell phone track
the forensics. Okay. Did he go a week
prior? Was that him? They made a
statement in the affidavit that they
submitted to the court that he did they
found on his phone uh searches and
Google map searches of that university
and they can tell if he's searching that
it's how much time he spends on the site
and all of those things are part of the
investigation. If people would just let
them do their job and if in the court of
law with cross- examination they're not
doing their job properly then let's go
after you know them and judge them on
that. All right, everybody. Brandon
Tatum making way too much sense for the
average person on the internet, but we
say the truth anyways.