Brian Entin and Steve Moore Analyze the Chaotic First Hours of the Charlie Kirk Manhunt

[00:00] Hey guys, thanks for checking out my

[00:01] channel. I appreciate it. I'm outside

[00:03] Utah Valley University. I just got here

[00:05] a little while ago. This is where

[00:07] Charlie Kirk was assassinated today. Um,

[00:10] and there is a manhunt. There's a

[00:13] massive manhunt happening in this area

[00:14] near the university and really all over

[00:16] Utah right now as they continue to

[00:18] search for a suspect. It's been very

[00:20] confusing on the law enforcement front,

[00:22] which I'm going to get into in a second.

[00:24] Uh there's been two potential suspects

[00:26] that were reported about and both of

[00:28] those did not pan out from what we are

[00:30] told. So the manhunt is very very active

[00:32] still uh right now not only here at the

[00:35] university but really in the entire

[00:36] area. Although here at the university I

[00:38] mean there are so many police out here.

[00:40] I mean you've got FBI, you've got

[00:41] homeland security, ATF, the local

[00:43] police, the university police, the state

[00:45] police. Um, basically where this

[00:47] happened, and I can't get to it right

[00:49] now, but you see this big building

[00:50] behind me on the other side of that

[00:52] building, and I just walked over there.

[00:54] They're not going to let me back in

[00:56] there now, though. Um, is the courtyard,

[00:59] sort of the amphitheater where Charlie

[01:01] Kirk was um, speaking. And, uh, it's

[01:05] awful. I looked through the windows. I

[01:07] went back there. Um, and it's just, I

[01:09] mean, everything is still sort of left

[01:11] the way that it was. Um, there's

[01:13] caution, there's, you know, police tape

[01:14] up, but, you know, you can tell people

[01:16] just ran for their lives because there's

[01:18] still backpacks everywhere and chairs,

[01:19] and I could see the tent where Charlie

[01:22] Kirk was was speaking. And if you've

[01:24] seen the video, I mean, the video is

[01:26] just awful. Um, but the the tent is now

[01:29] on its side over there. Uh, and it's

[01:31] just it's a terrible terrible scene back

[01:33] there. Um, but in terms of what's

[01:35] developed today, and I'm going to get my

[01:36] former FBI agent friend on here in a

[01:39] minute to help explain some of this, but

[01:41] just to sort of walk you through what

[01:42] happened today. Um, Charlie Kirk was

[01:45] here on campus. He was speaking. There

[01:48] was a um a shooter, a sniper that police

[01:51] say was up on um the roof of one of the

[01:54] buildings out here. And there's video on

[01:56] social media where you can see him uh

[01:58] dressed in all dark clothing. Um, and it

[02:01] seems like it was just one shot from

[02:03] what we can tell. Someone who was

[02:04] probably obviously trained. Uh, one shot

[02:07] and shot and killed Charlie Kirk. Um,

[02:10] what's confusing is initially there was

[02:12] this social media video of an older man

[02:14] who was taken into custody who uh,

[02:17] everyone thought was the suspect. He was

[02:19] apparently interviewed and making up

[02:21] some kind of story and um, was released

[02:24] or I'm not sure if he was released. He

[02:26] might still be in custody for lying to

[02:27] police, but he is not the shooting

[02:29] suspect. So then we were told that there

[02:31] was that the suspect was on the loose.

[02:33] Okay. Manhunt. That was this afternoon.

[02:36] Then police have this press conference

[02:38] here in Utah where um they're basically

[02:42] in the beginning of the press conference

[02:43] making it sound like this is still an

[02:45] active manhunt and there is um no

[02:48] suspect. But during the press

[02:49] conference, FBI director Cash Patel

[02:52] tweets out that they have a a subject in

[02:56] custody. Um, so then at the press

[02:58] conference, reporters start asking about

[03:00] that and the governor says, "We do have

[03:03] a person of interest in custody and we

[03:05] are questioning that person." But it was

[03:07] kind of the vibe at the press conference

[03:09] was different than the vibe of Cash

[03:11] Patel's tweet. Cash Patel's tweet made

[03:13] everybody seem to think that they they

[03:15] got the guy. The vibe at the press

[03:17] conference I was getting was, "Wait a

[03:19] minute, this doesn't they don't sound

[03:21] that confident at at the press

[03:22] conference that this is really over." Um

[03:26] because they just I don't know there was

[03:28] just you didn't get that vibe that we

[03:31] got the guy everybody calm down. It was

[03:34] more of a vibe of well we're questioning

[03:35] someone. Uh so they they say they have a

[03:38] person of interest. They're questioning

[03:39] them. They say they don't believe that

[03:41] there's a second person involved. The

[03:43] police chief also said something that I

[03:45] really zeroed in on. He said we have

[03:46] surveillance video from the campus. But

[03:49] he said you know how surveillance video

[03:51] is or something like that. making it

[03:52] sound like the surveillance video wasn't

[03:54] that good of quality. Um, okay. So, the

[03:57] press conference ends. We think they

[03:58] have a suspect in custody, although my

[04:00] spiny sense is still telling me there's

[04:02] something weird about all of this cuz

[04:04] they didn't sound that confident despite

[04:05] the Cash Patel tweet. Uh, and then it

[04:09] comes out that there is no suspect in

[04:10] custody. They have released the person

[04:12] of interest they were talking to, who

[04:14] apparently is not involved. At least

[04:16] that's what it seems like because they

[04:17] released the person and now we're back

[04:19] at square one with an active manhunt.

[04:21] So, as of right now, no suspect in

[04:24] custody here uh in Utah for the for the

[04:27] shooting of Charlie Kirk. Um you have to

[04:29] wonder how much time was wasted. I mean,

[04:31] hopefully they were still investigating

[04:32] during all of this, but if they actually

[04:34] thought the first guy was the person and

[04:36] then hours later the second person they

[04:37] had in custody was the person, um they

[04:40] could be way behind. And this part of

[04:42] the country, I mean, it's rural out

[04:43] here. You've got mountains all around.

[04:45] Um a lot of places that someone could be

[04:47] hiding right now. Uh, so we don't know

[04:51] what they know. It's interesting that I

[04:54] think it's interesting just having

[04:55] covered a lot of these. Normally, if

[04:58] they have a good quality surveillance

[05:00] picture, they will put it out to us so

[05:02] that we can put it out uh the media can

[05:04] put it out and and people can help with

[05:06] the investigation. If they seen this

[05:08] person or whatever. Um, that hasn't

[05:11] happened. So, a they either don't have a

[05:14] good picture because again at the press

[05:16] conference the police chief made it

[05:17] sound like the security footage was not

[05:19] very good quality or b they have more

[05:21] information than they're letting on and

[05:23] they don't really need the media's help

[05:24] right now. Uh in the building again when

[05:26] I went in there's like a massive um like

[05:30] operation center. I mean there are so

[05:31] many police officers in there. Um

[05:33] they've got a whole sort of like a war

[05:35] room in there. So the investigation is

[05:37] obviously very very active right now.

[05:39] There are I just noticed this is really

[05:41] sad. There are these photos. I mean,

[05:42] these um if you guys can see these.

[05:44] There's This camera is like got a mind

[05:47] of its own. There's these uh flowers

[05:48] that people have left here. Um again,

[05:51] just a tragic tragic um day. I mean, for

[05:55] our country, regardless of what your

[05:57] political beliefs are, um it's it's not

[06:00] good um that this happens in our

[06:02] country. And uh very very disturbing. Um

[06:06] but back to the investigation. Um

[06:10] there's it's been quiet uh in terms of

[06:12] since that press conference since they

[06:13] first said there's a suspect and then

[06:15] said no, it's not a suspect or a person

[06:17] of interest. They haven't said much

[06:19] else. Um so I'm going to um get my

[06:22] former FBI agent friend on here. I'm

[06:25] going to get in the car and try to get a

[06:26] little input from him on what may be

[06:27] going on here. I'm joined now by Steve

[06:30] Moore, former FBI agent. Uh Steve, I'm

[06:32] outside the scene right now. Um, I'm

[06:35] trying to understand sort of how this

[06:37] day went down, kind of what maybe what

[06:39] was going on behind the scenes because,

[06:41] you know, initially there was that older

[06:43] gentleman that everyone thought was the

[06:44] suspect who apparently wasn't. Then the

[06:47] FBI director tweeted out that there was

[06:49] a subject in custody and the officials

[06:52] at the press conference seemed kind of

[06:53] caught off guard like they didn't they

[06:56] didn't seem as confident about it. And

[06:58] now we get news that that person has

[07:00] been let go. So, what do you think is

[07:02] going on behind the scenes?

[07:05] >> The usual thing. What happens is right

[07:07] after an an exigent uh situation like

[07:11] that where everything's uh chaotic and

[07:13] panicked, uh what you have is the FBI,

[07:16] if they weren't there already, are on

[07:18] their way. They get there and people are

[07:21] saying, "I saw this guy. I saw this

[07:23] guy." And people are pointing and

[07:25] saying, "That guy looked good. That guy

[07:27] was right in the area. I you know and

[07:29] the FBI is going to pounce on that

[07:31] because you'd be negligent not to. At

[07:34] the same time, they may not have high

[07:37] confidence that these are the people

[07:39] that were involved, but they certainly

[07:41] have to, you know, sus it out to find

[07:44] out if they are or aren't. Meanwhile,

[07:47] Washington DC is already calling uh and

[07:51] saying, "What have you got? What's going

[07:52] on?" And you know, the little

[07:55] frustration will come out in my in my uh

[07:58] talking here because I've been on the

[08:00] end of that and say, "I would really

[08:02] like to help you get a suspect, but

[08:04] you're calling me when I need to be

[08:06] working." And so what you'll say is,

[08:08] "We've got somebody. We're not sure of

[08:11] what's going on with them yet." And what

[08:13] they hear is they got him. And so that

[08:17] so you'll you'll find out from a press

[08:20] conference in Washington DC that

[08:23] Washington is saying that you've got the

[08:25] suspect and you're saying oh glad I glad

[08:29] I know. Uh so that's standard and it

[08:32] doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure

[08:34] it's frustrating to the public.

[08:37] >> Do you think that it put them behind on

[08:39] the ground here? um because it made it

[08:43] sound like they thought they had the

[08:45] person. They were questioning someone.

[08:47] Um they had a person of interest. That's

[08:49] what the governor called the person. I

[08:51] mean, I'm just thinking if they were all

[08:53] focused on that person, is the real bad

[08:55] guy getting an even better chance to get

[08:57] away.

[08:59] >> Well, it didn't speed them up. But at

[09:01] the same time, Brian, when you when you

[09:02] respond to a situation like that, the

[09:05] FBI has done this enough to where they

[09:07] know that you're going to have several

[09:08] agents dealing with uh reports of

[09:12] witnesses right on the scene. But, you

[09:14] know, that's not going to be where your

[09:16] case is made because the person wasn't

[09:19] in the vicinity of of the victim. And so

[09:23] what you're going to be doing then is

[09:24] splitting off a large portion of your of

[09:28] your resources to start reviewing film

[09:31] already uh and finding out what vantage

[09:34] points because with with Charlie sitting

[09:37] there, you can get an idea of where that

[09:39] bullet came from, at least a rough

[09:41] estimate. And then if it's a if it's a

[09:44] down angle and you're going to be able

[09:46] to tell by the the exit wound if there's

[09:48] an exit wound, you're going to have

[09:50] enough information to say that roof. And

[09:54] so you're going to be going in different

[09:57] directions. It is not one FBI team

[10:00] investigating this. It is three to four

[10:03] looking at different things

[10:05] simultaneously

[10:06] and and cross-pollinating with the

[10:09] information they're getting. And so what

[10:11] you're going to find out now where they

[10:14] are is that this person apparently um

[10:17] took a long uh long assassination shot

[10:21] with a rifle um into a covered tent. And

[10:27] so what you have there is somebody who

[10:28] knows what they're doing with a rifle,

[10:30] but it also means that they couldn't be

[10:33] sure of their position until that tent

[10:36] went up. So what I would be doing is

[10:39] going back on all the film uh throughout

[10:42] that entire campus and finding anybody

[10:46] who walked towards that roof or the

[10:48] ingress point of that roof or exited

[10:51] that area for the past well actually

[10:55] since it was announced that um Kirk was

[10:59] going to come to that college because

[11:01] somebody was up on that roof. Somebody

[11:04] cased that and somebody cased it close

[11:08] enough to the event that they knew they

[11:10] could shoot under that tent. And so you

[11:13] might find people on that roof or nearby

[11:16] that roof and all you have to do is find

[11:18] the same person in the same area several

[11:21] times in the last week or so and follow

[11:25] them with cameras back to the car park.

[11:28] And um I don't think this is going to be

[11:30] a who done it. I think this is going to

[11:32] be an intricate um exhaustive

[11:35] investigation and right now um there is

[11:39] no resource that the FBI is not going to

[11:42] throw at this and I would say right now

[11:45] that that person's best option um is is

[11:51] to turn themsel in uh because

[11:55] they are not going to live a moment not

[11:58] hounded by the FBI and the FBI I will

[12:01] get them fairly quickly.

[12:04] >> How, and I don't know a ton about guns.

[12:06] H how experienced would a sniper have to

[12:09] be to pull off that shot? I mean, is

[12:11] this the kind of thing that, you know,

[12:13] you could take some classes and be able

[12:15] to do or is this like someone who really

[12:17] knows what they're doing?

[12:19] >> It would be somewhere in be. I mean, it

[12:22] would be somewhere um beyond somebody

[12:25] who's taken some classes. I was a sniper

[12:27] for two years. Um, we took we we worked

[12:31] for years on shooting. Um, and so I

[12:34] don't know the distance they they fired.

[12:37] Uh, but you know, you've got to realize

[12:40] that some of the hunters in from P

[12:43] Pennsylvania to Utah, uh, the hunters

[12:46] are phenomenal long distance shots. So

[12:49] there are hundreds and thousands and

[12:52] hundreds of thousands of people in the

[12:54] United States who could make that shot.

[12:57] Um the the the thing we learned in

[13:00] snipering is that you spent most of your

[13:04] time learning how to ingress and eress

[13:07] areas and not being not be seen because

[13:10] the shooting was the easier thing to

[13:12] master. And so you've got that um you

[13:16] know to deal with. The other thing is it

[13:18] appears, you know, I'd have to see the

[13:21] distance of the shot to to know, but the

[13:25] shot came out and there was no ejected

[13:29] cartridge. So, either he picked up the

[13:32] cartridge uh and brought it with him or

[13:36] it was a bolt-action rifle and he didn't

[13:39] he didn't eject it himself. Um the FBI

[13:42] knows already um which it was because

[13:46] they'll have the bullet by now. Um and

[13:50] they will know whether it was a 30

[13:51] caliber bolt action or a uh semi-auto

[13:55] 223 something like that. The FBI is

[13:58] throwing everything at this and some of

[14:01] their evidence uh techniques are just

[14:05] mind-boggling.

[14:07] >> But it seems like it was just one shot

[14:09] and it was pre I mean, I'm I I I'm sure

[14:12] you've seen the video. It's it's awful

[14:14] to watch. It's all over social media.

[14:18] But to to get that shot one time, you're

[14:21] saying is is someone who knows what

[14:23] they're doing.

[14:24] >> It's someone who knows what they're

[14:25] doing, but they're not um I wouldn't put

[14:28] them up there with uh with a big-time

[14:32] military or uh law enforcement sniper.

[14:35] For instance, at uh at the FBI, um our

[14:40] snipers were uh there to take out

[14:44] suspects who were holding somebody

[14:46] hostage. Basically, you're shooting at a

[14:48] head from a from about 100 to 200 yards.

[14:52] And our our zone, our acceptable zone of

[14:56] shooting was about the size of a of the

[15:00] side of a cigarette pack uh at 100 to

[15:03] 200 yards. So, this person missed the

[15:06] head, the entire head of the of the

[15:09] target and hit him in the neck. This is

[15:11] a uh that in in actual professional

[15:15] snipering would be considered a a wild

[15:18] miss. Um but in it it doesn't take much

[15:24] um with a high-powered rifle uh to to

[15:27] take somebody's life.

[15:29] >> So, you think that was a mistake hitting

[15:31] him in the neck?

[15:31] >> I do. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody nobody uh

[15:35] nobody who is a serious sniper considers

[15:38] the neck a prime a prime aim point. I

[15:41] mean think about it. You're going to be

[15:43] if you're a sniper, you've got to have

[15:44] an aim point. Are you going to aim at

[15:46] the head? Are you going to aim at the

[15:48] heart? Or are you going to aim at the

[15:50] neck or the elbow? You're going to aim

[15:52] either at the head or the heart.

[15:55] And the neck is not a primary aim point.

[15:58] >> Interesting. Um, what do you think about

[16:01] the fact that there's no video that's

[16:04] been released or photo? I mean, other

[16:06] shootings I've covered like this at this

[16:08] point when no one's in custody, a lot of

[16:10] the time they'll release something to us

[16:12] to say, "Hey, can you get this picture

[16:14] out?"

[16:15] >> Usually, when they're asking the public

[16:17] for help, it's because they don't have

[16:19] anything. If they're not asking for the

[16:22] public's help, they don't need the

[16:24] public's help right now. So, I would say

[16:26] that uh I I don't know what they're

[16:28] going to do tomorrow. Maybe they ask for

[16:30] the public's help tomorrow, but um my

[16:33] guess is that they either don't have a

[16:36] picture that would be useful for the

[16:39] public to look at uh or they're way

[16:42] ahead of us and they don't need

[16:44] anybody's help at this point and so they

[16:46] don't want um to slow down their

[16:49] investigation. Remember, every time you

[16:51] ask the public for help, thank thank God

[16:55] the public helps, but at the same time,

[16:59] hundreds and thousands of leads come in

[17:02] and you're going to find that 999 out of

[17:05] a thousand are useless, and that takes

[17:08] up agent and police resources. So, you

[17:11] don't want to send something out to the

[17:14] public unless you're desperate.

[17:17] Something else interesting, a few of my

[17:18] buddies have texted me like comparing

[17:20] this to Butler, you know, when President

[17:22] Trump was shot and saying, "Oh, what a

[17:24] mistake." You know, gosh, more security

[17:25] lapses. But I don't think people

[17:26] realize, and I've been I've covered

[17:28] Charlie Kirk events before, you know,

[17:30] he's just a regular citizen. He has his

[17:32] security team obviously that is there to

[17:35] protect him, but it's not like a

[17:37] politician coming in where there's going

[17:39] to be snipers on roofs and they're

[17:40] really going to do some extensive

[17:43] uh like pre-security plan. I I think

[17:47] they're mainly just focused on

[17:48] protecting him like almost in his close

[17:50] proximity. I don't I don't know that

[17:52] they really I don't know, but I to me I

[17:55] when I've been to the events, it doesn't

[17:56] seem like they're there way ahead of

[17:58] time looking for sniper locations and

[18:00] that kind of thing.

[18:01] It's not the same kind of protection.

[18:03] And you're absolutely right. They are

[18:05] trying to defend uh in a close in

[18:07] closein zone, people with a knife,

[18:10] people who pull out a pistol, things

[18:12] like that, which are a vast majority

[18:15] historically of political assassinations

[18:17] or somebody coming up and wanting to

[18:19] shake their hands and instead pulling

[18:21] out a pistol.

[18:22] What his

[18:25] probably very competent security people

[18:28] know they can't do is protect against a

[18:31] sniper 200 yards out, 500 yards out.

[18:34] They can't. They don't have aerial

[18:36] resources to um to scan all the uh scan

[18:40] all the roofs. So they are doing the

[18:43] best they can, but they know that they

[18:45] that their ability is limited. I don't

[18:48] consider th this uh necessarily to have

[18:51] happened because they failed. Uh it

[18:54] happened because their um their their

[18:57] abilities and I don't mean their skills,

[18:59] but their capabilities were limited by

[19:02] the fact that they just don't have the

[19:04] resources to protect against a

[19:06] long-distance sniper.

[19:09] >> So, what will happen tonight? I mean, in

[19:10] tonight into tomorrow, I guess. Is there

[19:13] I mean, there's obviously a ton going on

[19:14] behind the scenes

[19:16] >> right now. Uh you're going to have, as I

[19:19] say, all sorts of different teams uh are

[19:21] going to be split up and doing different

[19:23] things. The FBI right now is probably

[19:26] has probably got hundreds of agents in

[19:29] route. Might even be on FBI planes. They

[19:32] are on their way. This is going to be an

[19:35] FBI flood. In the meantime, the agents

[19:38] who are there, and by the way, I keep

[19:40] saying FBI, the police are going to be

[19:43] intensely valuable here and crucial. Um,

[19:48] so you have police and police and agent

[19:51] teams who are going going through all

[19:54] the video. Uh, that's that's time

[19:56] consuming because you can only speed it

[19:58] up so much. Uh, and there other agents

[20:02] are are out there simply just retrieving

[20:05] video, finding out where every camera on

[20:08] campus is. Um, some agents are probably

[20:13] uh, right now with Utah Highway Patrol,

[20:16] and I'll tell you why. I was an agent in

[20:18] Utah for two years. One thing that Utah

[20:21] has, as you you know right now, is only

[20:25] uh, two freeways. You have the 80 that

[20:27] goes east, west, and the 15 that goes

[20:29] north and south. And when we worked

[20:31] fugitives, it worked to our advantage

[20:34] because you could stake out with highway

[20:36] patrol basically four positions south of

[20:41] Salt Lake City, south of Provo, uh say

[20:44] north of Cedar City, or even down by uh

[20:48] uh uh Mosquite, Nevada, where it where

[20:50] it exits. um and and start even if you

[20:54] don't see the car you're looking for or

[20:56] or know what car you're looking for,

[20:59] you're going to video everything and you

[21:00] are going to license plate read

[21:02] everything. So, if they go west out of

[21:05] Salt Lake City on the 15, there's 8

[21:07] hours of desert ahead of you. That's not

[21:10] a good direction to go because you will

[21:12] be caught. Uh if you go east on the 15,

[21:15] you're heading over the mountains into

[21:17] uh heading towards Colorado. that is not

[21:21] a very uh um that's a route that limits

[21:25] your ability to leave the route. So,

[21:28] that's good. North on the um I'm I'm

[21:32] sorry, I was saying the 15 east west. Uh

[21:34] it's the 80 east west. The 15 north,

[21:36] you're going up into uh rural Idaho and

[21:40] going south, you're going all the way to

[21:42] St. George. So, that person's not going

[21:45] to get away unscathed if they try to

[21:47] leave Utah.

[21:49] >> Yeah. I was wondering when I was driving

[21:50] out here from the airport. Um, I mean

[21:52] it's rural, you you know Utah, it's it's

[21:54] rural out here. There's mountains all

[21:56] around. This is a pretty small town out

[21:58] here.

[21:59] >> And I was just wondering I mean if

[22:01] you're the bad guy, if you're the

[22:02] sniper, is it easier to get away in a

[22:05] place like this than like say if this

[22:07] happened in some big city?

[22:09] >> No. No. Oh my gosh. If if I was if I god

[22:13] forbid if I was that shooter, um I would

[22:16] want this to have happened in LA where

[22:18] there is no way that the police they

[22:21] won't even try to cover roads because

[22:23] there's too many roads in Utah. If you

[22:27] decide to leave, you are very it's it's

[22:30] called channeled. you are channeled on

[22:32] certain things and there are enough

[22:35] highway patrol and police officers and

[22:38] FBI agents coming in to cover every one

[22:41] of those routes. So, they're kind of

[22:44] screwed unless they can try to get an

[22:47] airline uh ticket out of there, but

[22:49] trust me, they're going to be looking at

[22:51] that, too. Um, this is not going to go

[22:54] well for them. I don't expect this to be

[22:56] a who done it. The other thing is uh by

[22:59] now they probably have the bullet uh

[23:01] whether it went through Charlie uh and

[23:04] ended up in the ground uh or whether it

[23:07] was recovered at the hospital. Um

[23:10] they've got the bullet, they know the

[23:11] caliber, they know the type of rifle and

[23:14] they know and they will be able to match

[23:16] that bullet to a specific rifle uh when

[23:20] that rifle is located. So they'll be

[23:22] able to make this case. It's just a

[23:25] matter of how long it'll take to get

[23:27] this person in custody.

[23:28] >> And just my last thing, does it worry

[23:30] you? Again, I'm just thinking back to

[23:32] other ones I've covered where the people

[23:34] are caught pretty quickly and they're

[23:36] kind of amateur and you they make some

[23:38] mistake. Like should we be concerned

[23:40] that it's already been, you know, 12

[23:43] hours when we're doing this interview

[23:44] right now?

[23:46] >> Um, yeah, it it's bothersome that it's

[23:49] been 12 hours, but it's not surprising

[23:51] that it's been 12 hours. And just

[23:53] because it's been that long uh doesn't

[23:57] make it um exponentially harder to

[24:00] identify who this person is because

[24:02] there are agents going through all sorts

[24:04] of social media. People who do this kind

[24:06] of thing leave a trail of social media

[24:10] and posts and things like that. So

[24:12] they're also getting suspects just from

[24:15] that. So, um, and they are going to go,

[24:18] by the way, back through all the Charlie

[24:20] Kirk, uh, all the Charlie Kirk videos,

[24:24] and they're going to find people who

[24:26] are, I mean, they're going to look at

[24:28] every single person they can identify

[24:30] and find people who shouldn't be

[24:32] traveling with Charlie,

[24:34] >> and they will find this because the

[24:36] person uh, who shot him uh, very likely

[24:40] was at other at other meetings.

[24:44] >> Yeah. had to sort of come up with a

[24:45] plan. Um, well, Steve, I appreciate you

[24:48] talking with me tonight. I guess we'll

[24:49] see what happens in the coming hours. I

[24:53] hope they get him fast.