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Brian Ference Exposes Tyler Bowyer's Pattern of Cover-Ups and Corruption at Turning Point USA
Investigative journalist Brian Ference reveals a disturbing pattern of alleged corruption, sexual assault cover-ups, and evidence tampering at Turning Point USA. From questionable behavior at Charlie Kirk's assassination scene to threats against victims who reported harassment, Ference documents how TPUSA CEO Tyler Bowyer allegedly used NDAs, legal threats, and gaslighting to silence employees. Former TPUSA staff members describe a toxic culture where Christian values were publicly proclaimed but privately violated, while financial irregularities prompted Kirk to call for an audit before his death.
Questionable Actions Following Charlie Kirk's Assassination
Investigative journalist Brian Ference has been investigating Turning Point USA long before Charlie Kirk's assassination, uncovering what he describes as a pattern of corruption and cover-ups. Following Kirk's death, several concerning actions by TPUSA employees have raised questions about evidence handling and the organization's internal culture.
According to Ference, TPUSA CEO Tyler Bowyer made false claims about police instructing cameraman Terryl Farnsworth to remove cameras and SD cards from the crime scene. This contradicts proper police protocol, which stipulates that the chain of custody cannot be broken due to potential evidence tampering. Such actions could jeopardize the entire case, as defense attorneys could argue the evidence was compromised.
Candace Owens, a former TPUSA employee, has challenged these claims, stating she has complete video documentation of Farnsworth's actions in the four minutes before he removed the cameras. She asserts that Bowyer is lying about police instructions.
Bizarre Behavior Captured on Video
Video evidence shows unusual conduct by TPUSA employees immediately following Kirk's assassination. Mikey McCoy, Kirk's chief of staff, was filmed walking away from the scene with his phone to his ear less than one second after the shooting. Despite his father, Pastor Rob McCoy, claiming Mikey "had blood all over him" during a recent sermon, video evidence contradicts this assertion, showing McCoy was approximately 20 yards away and walking in the opposite direction.
Even more concerning is footage of Terryl Farnsworth filming a selfie video moments after the shooting. In the video, Farnsworth declares "They just shot Charlie. He's dead" while Kirk is being loaded into an SUV. Farnsworth is the first person on record to pronounce Kirk dead, despite having no medical training or close proximity to assess his condition. He then proceeded to remove the camera positioned directly behind where Kirk was shot, standing on what appeared to be the chair Kirk had been sitting in.
When questioned about removing evidence from an active crime scene, Farnsworth gave a different explanation than Bowyer provided. While Bowyer claimed police ordered the removal, Farnsworth stated he did it to "protect the footage" from "evil people," creating conflicting narratives within the organization.
Pattern of Sexual Assault Cover-Ups
Ference's investigation uncovered allegations of sexual assault cover-ups dating back years at Turning Point USA. One documented case from December 2024 involves Matthew Martinez, a prominent TPUSA employee frequently featured on the Charlie Kirk show and serving as a board member on the Arizona Young Republicans.
According to a police report, a young female TPUSA employee alleged that Martinez, her project leader assigned by Tyler Bowyer, placed his hand on the inside of her thigh while they were alone in a car. The report states he stroked the inside of her leg, reached her pelvis area and underwear, then attempted to kiss her and persuade her to enter his hotel room. The victim told him to leave the car and subsequently filed a police report.
Rather than allowing a proper HR investigation, Bowyer allegedly took control of the investigation himself, despite being friends with Martinez. The victim reported that "Tyler was leading the investigation in the interview. Essentially, I was just meeting with Tyler. It was him just raking over the coals and asking questions because they had spoken to Matthew first."
Legal Threats and NDA Violations
After the victim reported the incident to police, she received a letter dated April 9, 2024, from Veronica Peterson, identifying herself as counsel for Turning Point. The letter stated the victim was "actively discussing a confidential investigation" and was therefore in violation of her NDA. The letter threatened legal action if she continued such communications.
This approach is legally questionable, as NDAs cannot prevent employees from reporting crimes, including sexual assault, to law enforcement. Legal precedent clearly establishes that NDAs do not apply to sexual assault allegations, and no company can use such agreements to strip employees of their civil liberties.
Ference himself received what he describes as "some kind of weird malformed demand letter" from TPUSA after his reporting, though he dismissed it as "completely insane." The organization has also made legal threats against Candace Owens and others who have questioned the official narrative surrounding Kirk's death.
Employee Testimonies Reveal Toxic Culture
Multiple current and former TPUSA employees have corroborated accounts of a toxic workplace culture. One former employee told Ference: "The people at Turning Point are not good people. There is nothing godly about them. They are protecting what is going on there and it is the culture. They are using intimidation tactics regularly."
The same employee described their first impression of Tyler Bowyer: "My first week I met Tyler Bowyer and there was something off about him from the beginning. Bowyer is not who he thinks he is. He is an arrogant [person]. There were people in my employee training that said, 'Bowyer, the guy is full of [nonsense].' There's an act like he has it all figured out."
The employee also alleged financial improprieties: "The first thing I figured out is they lie and they don't tell the whole truth, particularly about their data. They weren't telling the truth about what they were presenting to donors. They were inflating the numbers and their data was wrong. Their app is flawed and not accurate. Their training is garbage."
The employee concluded with a harsh assessment: "There's something not right here, particularly with Tyler Bowyer. Bowyer does not fear God at all. He is not a Christian. The man is a monster."
Charlie Kirk's Audit and Financial Concerns
Before his assassination, Charlie Kirk had ordered what sources describe as a comprehensive audit of Turning Point USA's finances. This was not a routine audit but rather what Kirk himself characterized as a "DOGE-style audit" that would examine the organization's funding sources, expenditures, and potentially call for culture changes.
Bowyer reportedly downplayed the significance of this audit, claiming it was routine. However, according to Ference's sources, this characterization is false. The audit was meant to address serious concerns about where money was coming from and where it was going within the organization.
According to Ference's reporting, this comprehensive audit has been completely cancelled since Kirk's death, raising questions about accountability and transparency within the organization moving forward.
Contradictions Between Public Image and Private Conduct
The contrast between TPUSA's public messaging and alleged internal culture is stark. At Kirk's memorial service, which lasted five hours, speakers emphasized traditional Christian values: getting married young, starting families, and living as upstanding Christians. Mikey McCoy himself appeared on stage with his wife promoting these values.
However, Ference's reporting reveals a different reality behind the scenes. He has documented questionable speakers at TPUSA Faith events, including former OnlyFans models, a former adult film actress, and even atheists speaking at Christian-focused gatherings. Sources have described parties and events that would "make a lot of people really disgusted" if the details became public.
This disconnect between the organization's public Christian branding and its alleged internal practices raises questions about the authenticity of TPUSA's mission and values under its current leadership.
Pattern of Gaslighting and Manipulation
A consistent theme throughout Ference's investigation is what he describes as TPUSA leadership's pattern of gaslighting, emotional manipulation, and legal intimidation. When questioned about any irregularities, Bowyer and other executives allegedly attack the questioner's credibility, invalidate their concerns, and follow up with legal threats.
This pattern was evident in the sexual assault case, where the victim was legally threatened for reporting the crime to police. It continues with responses to questions about evidence handling at Kirk's assassination scene, where Bowyer provided false information about police instructions. And it extends to treatment of journalists and former employees who speak publicly about their experiences.
The organization positions itself and its leadership as "the good guys" and frames any criticism as attacks on people who are grieving and serving a noble cause. This deflection strategy, according to Ference, prevents legitimate accountability and allows problematic behavior to continue unchecked.
Implications for the Investigation
The evidence handling issues at the assassination scene could have serious legal implications. Breaking the chain of custody in a criminal investigation can provide defense attorneys with grounds to challenge evidence admissibility. If SD cards and cameras were removed from the crime scene by unauthorized personnel, any footage from those devices could potentially be deemed inadmissible in court.
This mirrors the OJ Simpson case, where LAPD's mishandling of evidence allowed defense attorneys to cast doubt on the prosecution's case. The alleged assassin's attorney could argue that evidence tampering occurred when TPUSA employees removed cameras and SD cards before police properly secured and documented them.
The fact that conflicting explanations have been provided for why this evidence was removed only strengthens potential defense arguments about contamination and unreliability of the evidence chain.
Video Transcript
Well, there are a lot of problems with
the TPA USA response to Charlie Kirk's
assassination. Um, lying about drones,
tearing down the cameras, saying that
the police told you to do it, tearing
down these cameras. Um, and a lot more.
A lot more. Candace Owens is taking
TPUSA and TP Action CEO Tyler uh Tyler
Bower to task. She says she knew Tyler
Bower was lying when he tweeted this guy
was commanded by police to take down
these cameras and she's been taking a
number of the lies that TPUSA has been
putting out according to her and she
worked there so she knows this she knows
these individuals very very well. But
anyway, here's a sort of a sped up video
of her explaining this um about Tyler
Boyer yesterday on the show. Watch. I I
actually don't know why this video I
don't know what this video could have
done that he sent me other than to make
me feel even more uncomfortable because
the video he sent me is qu shocking.
It's also the reason that I knew that
Tyler Boyer was lying when he tweeted
that in this guy was commanded by the
police to take down the cameras. He's
lying because I have every minute of
what this guy was doing thanks to him
having sent it to me. Okay. Every minute
of what he was doing before he took
those cameras down. And there only four
minutes by the way before he takes those
cameras down. So he's next to and he's
in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie
gets shot. Now, to his credit, he
actually did see Charlie get shot. Um,
he saw in like a split second sees
Charlie bleeding and runs and doesn't
run very far. He just runs a couple of
yards away. Now, I should mention that
the camera guy, he too was also brought
into the company by Tyler Ber. Okay.
Investigative journalist Brian Ference
has been on this story long before
Charlie was even murdered. He'd been
investigating reporting on the
corruption, the sexual assault coverup
by TPUSA CEO Tyler Boyer. Um, Brian even
put out a poll last uh last April about
this. Here's the You can see the time
stamp on this. Take a look at this poll.
Should Charlie Kirk fire Tyler Boyer
given a allegations of covering up
sexual assault and other corruption? And
we know they were doing an audit of
where all this money was disappearing.
Charlie wanted was doing this audit. So,
Brian, investigative journalist, great
journalist, joins us again on the show.
Brian, thanks for staying on the story
and digging deep where others are scared
to look. Great to have you back on the
show.
>> Thank you, Clayton and Natalie. Great to
be back on the show. Uh, and I did want
to point out all this evidence that I'm
going to be talking about. It's on my
website, brianference.com.
Uh, and also you can follow me on X at
Brian Ference one. uh including the
screenshots that that shows Tyler Boyer
uh incorrectly claiming that the police
uh ordered uh Terrell Farnsworth who was
the cameraman to remove that camera and
and and those uh SD camera SD cards. So
uh those screenshots are there. Um, I
did want to talk about since you
mentioned that allegation of sexual
harassment cover up. Um, that is one
that um, really a shocking shocking
story and again on brian ference.com. I
did send to your producer as well if he
wants to show any of the screenshots.
Um, but it's important because this is a
pattern of corruption and a pattern of
coverups and a pattern of gaslighting
people. If you look at the interactions
that um Super Feed Technology CEO and uh
Turnpoint Action CEO Tyler Ber has to
anyone questioning him or his team, he
immediately attacks that person uh
gaslights them, invalidates the
question. Um, so yeah, those are
screenshots of um, you know, him
claiming that the police instructed
uh, the cameraman uh, Terrell Farnsworth
to to remove those those cameras and
evidence uh, in an active crime scene,
which is absolutely not true. Um, police
protocol uh, stipulates that uh,
absolutely you cannot break the chain of
custody due to potential tampering of
evidence. uh that was an active crime
scene crime scene. They absolutely had
no right to do that. And frankly, it
puts the entire case uh in jeopardy
because uh you know the alleged
assassin, his attorney can claim, well,
this evidence, the chain of custody was
broken, so how do we know this wasn't
tampered with? You know, this evidence.
So, uh I mean it could OJ Simpson.
>> Exactly.
>> Brian, that's OJ Simpson all over again,
right? It's the chain of evidence. It
was the the LAPD bungled this
investigation. You can't trust the chain
of evidence here. Who touched the SD
card? Was it who who had access to this?
So, when he's Can you unpack what
Candace was saying yesterday and what
Tyler Boyer is saying publicly? Can you
walk us through like those two different
positions here?
>> Sure. And in the video from Candace
Owens, there there's two uh main
employees that she talks about. One is
Mikey McCoy, who is the chief of staff
for TPUSA, and she shows a video of
Mikey McCoy. It's literally less than
one second. It's like 800s of a second.
As soon as Charlie is shot, he, you
know, puts his hands up supposedly to
cover his ear, but he has his phone in
his ear and he's walking away. And um
the interesting thing is, you know,
Mikey McCoy, his uh his father is a is a
pastor, Pastor Rob McCoy, and he did a
sermon recently where he said, you know,
Mikey McCoy was a hero. And he had he
had blood all over him. That's a direct
quote. He had blood all over him. Well,
that's impossible because he was behind
the tent, he was walking away, he was,
you know, 20 yards away. Uh he
absolutely did not have blood over him.
Um so it's just it's a little bit
bizarre. It's a little bit bizarre
behavior. I mean, if if if I was
someone's chief of staff and supposedly
their best friend and they got shot, I I
probably would run either towards them
um I I I certainly wouldn't like I don't
know, calmly stroll away with, you know,
my phone to my ear. Um which is one of
the things that Candace is pointing out.
The other thing she's pointing out is
Terl Farnsworth, who's the cameraman who
is identified as the one that removed
the camera, which was directly behind
Charlie Kirk uh immediately afterwards.
Um he's also on the video and he's seen
kind of running away to a grassy null as
well. And then he decides that he's
going to shoot a um like a selfie live
video or or just record himself, I
guess. I don't know if it was live or
not. Um
>> I think we do have that. Yeah, let's run
that. Brian, we have that video. Yeah,
let's run that video. So, this is this
is Farnsworth here. Um, who decides to
like shoot a selfie video just seconds
after Charlie Kirk is assassinated. It's
a very
>> And he flips the camera. So, you do see
Charlie being loaded into the SUV. So,
while concerned parties are in on the
job of hopefully saving his life, he
thinks I need to document how I feel
right now. Let's watch. They just shot
Charlie.
>> They just shot Charlie.
>> They just shot Charlie.
>> See, there he goes. Look, my friend is
being loaded into an SUV.
>> I'm going to stand here and record my
reaction.
>> There's your shot, Charlie.
I mean, it's like it reminds me, Brian,
almost like one of those Tik Tok videos.
>> What he says here, I want you to don't
talk over it. He says he's dead. Nobody
knows at this point that he's dead.
Nobody knows this yet. So, he then
presumably is the first one to proclaim
Charlie Kirk dead.
>> Yeah, they're loading him in the car. I
mean, anyway, Brian, it reminds me I was
just going to say it reminds you of like
one of those Tik Tok, you know, like I'm
feeling I want to I want to flip on the
camera and start crying for the camera.
I mean, I don't want to denigrate, but I
mean, it's just it's bizarre behavior.
Like, if my friend is shot, I'm not
going to flip on a selfie camera and
film like my reaction. I'm going to do
what I can to help and
you know, if there's I don't know. Well,
something [laughter] the Turning Points
people said in their response on Monday
was we had strict protocols in place.
Was the protocol ever film yourself? I
wonder what was take a selfie ever part
of this what safety does that promote?
Did that belies all rational thought,
doesn't it?
>> It it does. And and how I mean, how did
he know that Charlie Kirk was dead? I
mean, he didn't he was he didn't get
close to him. I mean, he saw people
carry him into the car. Um, I mean, how
does he know that he's dead? It's it's
bizarre that he pronounces that
immediately after the shooting and then
goes back and steals the camera and the
footage from a from an active crime
scene and and allegedly stood on the
chair that Charlie Kirk was shot, by the
way. I don't know if I don't know if
there was two chairs there or not, but
you can see him, you know, he's looking
around first to make sure no one's
watching him. Uh, and then he stands on
a chair, which appears to be the chair
that Charlie Kirk was assassinated in,
and removes the camera directly behind
Charlie Kirk. Uh, I mean, it's just
bizarre behavior. They asked him uh on
uh Charlie Kirk's show, Andrew Kovet,
asked him, "Why did you do that uh to uh
Tyrell Terrell Terrell Farnsworth?" And
his his response was exactly the
opposite of Tyler Boyer. Tyler Ber had
said, "The police told him to do that.
But that's not what he said on this
show. He said there's bas basically said
there's there's evil people out there
and I I needed to protect the footage.
So you have conflicting answers.
>> I feel so sad that I thought of this,
but what I thought of was how people
would misuse this. But what he first
thought of was himself and how he wanted
to immortalize his reaction.
So that doesn't track. Now I want to ask
you about this because the Turning
Points executives are presenting this
narrative that Charlie was like the
Messiah and they are the disciples and
so therefore they are blameless and
anybody who is questioning the disciples
is disgusting. That's what they said.
They're disgusted that we would question
the actions of the sanctioned Messianic
disciples. That's how they would like
this to come off. And I reject it from
the core of my being. I find that
disgusting. Now you have evidence that
these people were beyond were had
character questions long before the
assassination and we should not forget
that and allow them to just have this
protection of disciplehip. Can you tell
us what you found about the allegations
about Boyer long before the shooting?
>> Sure. Um, so basically, uh, there there
there is on my website there's a lot of
other documented cases of allegations of
sexual assault going back years and it
always kind of gets covered up. This is
one from 2024. You can see the date is
uh, December 2024. So, this is an
alleged sexual assault. I'm going to
just summarize a little bit what's in
this police report. U,, but this is this
is a very young girl, very young. as as
typically happens with Turning Point,
they recruit all these really young,
very attractive girls usually. Um, so
she was assigned
um to work with a prominent Turning
Point employee named Matthew Martinez by
Tyler Boyer. And yeah, there's a photo
of Boyer and Martinez like in Mexico.
They're right next to each other. Um,
and Martinez, he's frequently appeared
actually on the Charlie Kirk show and is
heavily promoted as a turning point
speaker. He leads trainings. He's known
as a data guru. He's given credit for
drawing the maps for all their door
knocking and quote the mastermind behind
the math and science. Um he's taken a
lead role in election results. And then
Martinez is actually a current board
member on the Arizona Young Republicans.
So he's involved in the in the
Republican scene. And you may have
remembered the the scandal that Young
Republicans had that there's turning
point connections there as well. But uh
let's skip that for a second. Um, so the
victim alleges that she was adjourning a
junior employee working with uh Martinez
who was a senior employee and and Tyler
Boyer and Martinez acted as her quote
project leader. Okay, this is her boss
or her you know her superior. Uh and
then um she also claims that uh Boyer
and Martinez were friends. They had
drinks together. uh they would uh you
know he photographed together always.
Boyer said you know of Martinez uh he's
he's relentlessly worked to train
thousands of ballot chasers full-time
and part-time uh gave him an award all
this stuff. Um, but from the police
report, Martinez is with this victim and
they're in a car together alone and she
has a a dress on and he places his hand
on the inside of her thigh and begins
stroking the inside of her leg and
reaches her pelvis. He's touching her
pelvis area and her underwear and then
he tries to kiss her and tries to get
her to go into his hotel room. Well, she
tells him, you know, f you, get out of
the car. And then she filed that police
report. Well, what was strange is that
this is an employee also turning point.
So, these are two turning point
employees. So, Tyler Ber who's friends
with Martinez basically then comes in
and completely and appropriately uh
takes control of the investigation. This
should be a human relations HR
investigation, but he takes control of
it. Um there's an email on my website
basically he's responding to someone in
HR. He's saying uh that he's moving the
date of the HR meeting and according to
the victim, this is a quote. Yeah,
that's it. Tyler was leading the
investigation in the interview.
Essentially, I was just meeting with
Tyler. It was him just raking over the
coals and asking questions because they
had spoken to Matthew first.
Um, so and then there's another letter
which is from uh the April 9th, 2024
from Veronica Peterson who identifi
identifies herself as council for
turning point. Yeah, that's it. And she
says upon your commencement, she's
talking to the victim. your commencement
of employment with TPA. You signed a
confidentiality agreement NDA and we are
informing you that you are act we've
informed you're actively discussing a
confidential investigation that arose
from your report of harassment. They say
harassment, but it's sexual assault is
what the police report says. So, it's
interesting that they downgraded it from
sexual assault to harassment uh by a
coworker. Um and then they go on to say
you would be in violation of your NDA
and you must cease continuing such
communications. TPA TPA takes this
matter very seriously and is prepared to
take legal action for any continued
document violation
>> because she reported it to police.
>> That's exactly what it is.
>> Right.
>> So she reported it to the police and
they say your NDA
obligated you to only report this
internally. That's crazy. And it's
complet it's completely invalid. The
legal precedent is very clear. Um NDAs
do not apply to sexual assault.
Absolutely not.
>> No company takes your civil liberties
away because that's crazy.
>> Now, people could say, Brian, don't like
let let's not muddy the water here.
Someone in the chat saying, "Let's not
muddy the water between Charlie Kirk's
assassination and the fraud and maybe
cover up and corruption that was
happening at TPUSA." Maybe you could
address that here. You think they're
totally separate? Nothing to nothing to
see here.
>> Yeah, that's that that's a good that's a
good point. And and if it was a one-off,
I would maybe agree with that. But this
is not a one-off. This is a pattern of
behavior. And you have someone Tyler Ber
who is experienced in cover-ups. He's
experiencing cover-ups. So he here he is
very clearly inappropriately assuming
the uh control v sexual sexual assault
investigation covering it up legally
threatening that employee. Uh and then
you have another situation which is now
where Tyler Boyer is covering up for his
employees again. Oh, they they uh you
know interfered with a crime scene. Oh,
let me just say the police told them to
do that. And then there's there's a lot
of other irregularities with many of
Tyler Ber's comments because he's
experienced in covering up uh running
PR, saving face, and he's also made
legal threats to to Candace Owens and
other people. If you keep talking about
Charlie Kirk and this and this, we're
going to sue you because it's a pattern
of behavior. Their company is incredibly
latigious. Uh I got some kind of weird
malformed. It wasn't a cease and desist.
It was like a demand letter. Um it was
just absolutely ridiculous. Uh I I just
gave it right back to them because it
was completely insane. But um that's
their pattern behind it as toilet paper.
>> Yeah, I I really did. Um but it's this
is a pattern of behavior for them. They
cover things up, they gaslight, and then
they followed up with legal threats. So
um you when you're talking about don't
muddy the water, this is a pattern of
behavior. These are skilled
uh emotional and psychological
manipulators that have the ability to
just lie constantly uh gaslight people
and then followed up with legal threats
and oh by the way we're the good guys.
Please continue donating, you know, tens
of millions of dollars to our
organization.
>> Now, we don't know how much Charlie Kirk
would have had a hand in this. We don't
know what he knew about this. What we do
know is that he had ordered an audit on
the financials because there was things
that didn't pass the smell test and that
he was trying to regain control. He
seemed to need to regain control of his
maybe sea level executives. Uh so that
maybe gives us a clue that he might have
felt like the natives ran away with it
or what what is the expression? The
natives were in charge. The inmates were
inmates were in charge. Sorry. Yeah,
she's terrible with idioms. We
apologize, Brian.
>> Well, I mean, that's an interesting
point. Oh, go ahead.
>> No, go ahead, Brian.
>> Yeah, I I just wanted to touch on one
other thing. So, um you know, this is
from another employee at Turning Point.
So, I've had I've had um multiple
discussions with multiple uh usually
former some current Turning Point
employees. Uh this one confirmed the
allegations of sexual assault uh and and
and that it was covered up. And then
they went on to say this. They said uh
the people at Turning Point are not good
people. There is nothing godly about
them. They are protecting what is going
on there and it is the culture. They are
using intimidation tactics regularly. My
first week I met Tyler Ber and there was
something off about him from the
beginning. Ber is not who he thinks he
is. He is an arrogant There
were people in my employee training that
said, "Boyer, the guy is full of shit."
Sorry for the cursing. Uh there's an act
there's an act like he has it all
figured out. The first thing I figured
out is they lie and they don't tell the
whole truth. Particularly about their
data. They weren't telling the truth
about they what they were presenting to
donors. They were inflating the numbers
and their data was wrong. Their app is
flawed and not accurate. Their training
is garbage. There's something not right
here. Particularly with Tyler Boyer.
Boyer does not fear God at all. He is
not a Christian. The man is a monster.
>> Wow. Okay. Those are some tough words.
From a current TPA employee, right?
That's a current TPA. That one's from a
former TPA, but these are multiple
multiple employees that corroborate the
story. Um, all verifiable their
employment there. Um,
>> plenty [clears throat] of other
interesting financial transactions that
that's why that's why Kirk was calling
for an audit and a Doge style audit. And
I believe I don't have um a screenshot
of this, but I believe Tyler Ber again
kind of dismissed it saying, "Oh, no.
this is just a regular audit that we do
all the time. No, it no it's not. It
doesn't call for a culture change. It
doesn't say where's the where's our
funding coming from? Where's our funding
going? This was a major audit and as far
as I have been informed, it's been
completely cancelled since uh since
Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
>> Wow. And yet, you know, the thing that
stuck out the most to me at his memorial
were Turning Point USA speakers saying,
"Get married. Get married young. Have a
family. Be an upstanding Christian." I
mean, who was the person that spoke with
his wife? There was somebody specific.
Do you remember? Was that Mikey McCoy?
No.
>> Somebody in the chat, please. There was
a a husband and wife that came on the on
the stage and said, "Charlie encouraged
me to get married young. This is my
beautiful wife. This you know, do you
somebody will remember?"
>> I don't remember offic.
>> Yeah, I don't have that. It
>> It was a long program. It was a 5-hour
program, but there was somebody there
who specifically it was be a young
upstanding person, follow the Lord, get
married young. And so this stood out to
me and and now that you're telling me
that this culture persisted, that
was not in line with with that message.
So
>> Oh, that's that's absolutely true. And
I've written a lot of other articles
about some of the questionable speakers
at TPUSA Faith. Um some of which were uh
former Only Fans uh models, also known
as prostitutes. Um, you know, there's a
former porn star that at one point was
involved as a as a speaker with Turning
Point and that was kind of that was kind
of discarded quickly. But, um, you know,
they've had atheists speak at at Turning
Point USA Faith. There's there's a lot
of really questionable people that they
put into the limelight and throw up on
stage uh that do not represent the the
supposed Christian values uh that they
should.
No, I Yeah, I've heard some unbelievable
stories about some of these parties and
things that would take place and some of
the individuals who spoke on that stage
would make a lot of people really
disgusted. Um, [clears throat]
>> I think the chat is saying that that was
Mikey McCoy. It It was I'm I see it
right now. Remember this?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> The wife looked like um
>> Yeah.
>> Like a young Isa Fischer.
>> Yeah.
>> With the white dress. you that's
probably lost on this audience. Yeah.
Okay. Uh anyway, anyhow, okay, I'm
remembering that. Thank you so much for
this um journalism. You you have my jaw
is on the floor. So, please come back
with investigation.
>> Thank you both. Again, Wallace, evidence
is on brianference.com.
Have a good good rest of your day. Thank
you again.