Candace Owens Exposes White House Panic Over Epstein Files and Charlie Kirk Timeline

[00:00] Please, Tucker, forgive me. I had to

[00:02] share that. I know you like her. I know

[00:04] you're a fan of Erica. I know we have

[00:06] different opinions and different

[00:07] perspectives,

[00:08] but this doesn't make sense. It's a

[00:10] rather explosive piece that was

[00:11] published in the New York Times

[00:12] yesterday. This was also trending. Um,

[00:15] this is inside the White House freakout

[00:18] over the Epstein files. Now, I am not a

[00:20] normal consumer of the New York Times,

[00:23] obviously. I'm not really I don't really

[00:25] read much of the media anymore because

[00:27] of how many lies have been told. But

[00:29] this piece, it was very obvious that it

[00:31] was well sourced and I'll get into uh my

[00:34] opinion which is that Dan Bonino was one

[00:36] of the sources and I'll tell you why I

[00:37] think that in a bit. But revealed in

[00:39] this piece was a relevant portion about

[00:41] Charlie Kirk. Um in in summation, it's

[00:44] about uh how Trump really did not want

[00:47] the Epstein files to be investigated.

[00:49] Now there are two takes on this. Some

[00:50] people think that it is because he is in

[00:52] them. I don't doubt that Trump had some

[00:53] sort of a business relationship with

[00:54] Epstein. It makes perfect sense to me

[00:56] when you understand Epstein's business

[00:57] model, right? What did Epste do? Uh, he

[01:00] was involved in a trafficking ring. Uh,

[01:02] he traffked weapons. He traffked people.

[01:04] He did it on behalf of the state of

[01:06] Israel. We have another Israel theme.

[01:08] Charlie Kirk, I'm turning away from

[01:09] Israel. Donald Trump, I'm going to screw

[01:11] over Miriam Adlesen. Shortly thereafter,

[01:13] an assassination attempt happens. Okay.

[01:16] And now we have Trump in a full panic at

[01:19] the White House over the Epstein files

[01:21] and him having to do anything to shut

[01:23] down that investigation. So, we learn

[01:27] that just in the midst of Charlie's uh

[01:31] SAS, the student action summit where we

[01:33] have been telling you over and over

[01:34] again, according to our timeline, it

[01:37] seems to us that after Tucker took the

[01:39] stage at SAS, Tucker Carlson took the

[01:40] stage at SAS,

[01:42] instructions went out to kill Charlie

[01:43] Kirk. That's just what the timeline

[01:46] tells us. Like, if we're just looking at

[01:47] it like a story, things got weird after

[01:50] Tucker hit the stage. We have said this

[01:52] from the very beginning since we mapped

[01:54] out this timeline. Well, it turns out

[01:56] Tucker spoke on July 11th. And on July

[01:59] 12th, Charlie received a phone call from

[02:01] the president. Here is what the New York

[02:03] Times article tells us. It reads, quote,

[02:05] "On July 12th, the president took to

[02:07] Truth Social to defend Pam Bondi against

[02:10] criticism and to urge his boys and gals

[02:12] to stop wasting time and energy on

[02:14] Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody

[02:17] cares about." out. Trump told aids that

[02:18] he was very unhappy with some of his

[02:20] most influential supporters, including

[02:22] Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, and Megan

[02:25] Kelly, all of whom were publicly urging

[02:27] the administration to come clean. Kirk

[02:29] had held a Turning Point USA event the

[02:31] previous day that turned into an Epstein

[02:34] grievance fest with one speaker after

[02:36] another bashing Bondi over her handling

[02:38] of the situation. Trump had called Kirk

[02:41] and scolded him. Okay,

[02:45] couple of things happening here. Why

[02:48] would Donald Trump, the president of the

[02:50] United States, call Charlie Kirk to

[02:53] scold him? Because people on stage are

[02:56] calling out a child rapist.

[03:01] Make it make sense.

[03:03] I'm open to other ideas. I don't want to

[03:05] be a conspiracy theory. Make that make

[03:07] sense. There was mass panic. We have

[03:09] covered this. Charlie lost millions and

[03:11] millions of dollars on stage from his

[03:13] pro-Israel donors over uh Tucker calling

[03:16] out Epstein. Megan Kelly talked about

[03:18] Epstein. So, this is perfectly tracking

[03:20] with what we know went down and and

[03:23] Charlie held the line. By and large,

[03:25] Charlie held the line. They wanted him

[03:27] to cancel Tucker. Um they were angry

[03:30] that um in particular that he had Tucker

[03:34] Carlson had asked where Bill Aman's

[03:36] money comes from. It was it's kind of

[03:37] like one of those Epsteinesesque

[03:38] questions where it's like these people

[03:40] get really rich when you start looking

[03:41] into it doesn't really make sense where

[03:42] their money is coming from. There was

[03:44] mass Zionist panic. Again, we have the

[03:48] theme of Israel. So, let's plot that on

[03:51] our timeline because I remembered

[03:54] something that's bothering me. Okay,

[03:57] July 11th to July 13, 2025. Um, we know

[04:01] that that's the student action summit,

[04:03] Turning Point USA student action summit

[04:05] in Tampa Bay, Florida. Uh, Charlie's

[04:07] first speech is at 4 p.m. on Friday. His

[04:09] last speech concludes at 1:10 p.m. on

[04:12] Sunday. Okay. July 11th is the day that

[04:15] Tucker Carlson delivered that speech.

[04:17] Um, Charlie tells him to go Max despite

[04:20] the fact that donors are freaking out.

[04:21] He tells him to go Max. Okay. He calls

[04:25] out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that the

[04:26] people who serve in foreign armies

[04:28] should be stripped of their citizenship

[04:30] and he muses about where Bill Aman's

[04:31] wealth comes from. On July 12th,

[04:33] according to the New York Times,

[04:34] President Trump calls Charlie Kirk

[04:36] angrily and he scolds him about SAS,

[04:38] calling it an Epstein grievance fest.

[04:40] What does this have to do with you,

[04:41] Trump? What does that have to do with

[04:43] you? Who is telling you to call Charlie

[04:46] and scold him? Now, there's only two

[04:48] options. One,

[04:50] the gangsters that you took money from

[04:52] are telling you to call Charlie and put

[04:53] an end to it because Epste worked for

[04:56] Israel. Or two, you're in the Epstein

[04:59] file. There's no in between. You don't

[05:00] just call someone to scold them about

[05:02] bringing up uh um being agrieved by a

[05:05] child rapist. Everyone should be

[05:07] agrieved by a person who harms children.

[05:10] If you're not, we're not on the same

[05:11] team. Okay.

[05:14] This July 14th date,

[05:16] Erica travels aboard a private flight to

[05:18] Long Beach, California. She's got

[05:20] Katherine Loccastro. It's a young woman

[05:22] who works Turning Point USA. was at one

[05:23] point Mikey McCoy's assistant, Derek

[05:25] Nerk, who um who's a bodyguard, Jonathan

[05:30] Barcelo, who is a Marine, and she speaks

[05:34] at James Catis' Calvary Chapel Church.

[05:37] Now, James Catis is that icky guy who is

[05:41] Egyptian and runs Turning Point USA

[05:43] faith. We need to look into James Catis.

[05:45] I've received so many emails about him,

[05:47] radically pro- Israel. She speaks at

[05:50] their women's summer of song retreat and

[05:52] what was there was something bothering

[05:55] me about this speech for forever I keep

[05:57] being like this speech is really weird

[05:58] because she says in the speech that this

[06:00] was her Sunday church okay we know Erica

[06:03] bounces sometimes she's Catholic

[06:04] sometimes she's you know Jewish

[06:06] sometimes she's um Judeo-Christian and

[06:10] this day she was Calvary Chapel okay but

[06:12] it was bizarre to me because when James

[06:14] Katis te's up the speech he goes on

[06:16] about like pro-Israel pro and I was like

[06:18] there's something really bothering me

[06:20] about this on the timeline. The first

[06:21] and foremost I realized Erica didn't

[06:23] show up to ZAS which was unusual. Uh

[06:26] then she gets in a plane. She knows her

[06:28] husband is being agreved. She knows her

[06:30] her husband is under pressure from

[06:32] Israel. She knows her husband is losing

[06:34] millions from Israel and yet she gets on

[06:37] stage. She gets this pro-Israel intro

[06:40] from James Katis and then talks about,

[06:42] you know, how there's always war in

[06:44] Israel because Israel is great or

[06:46] whatever and and says that this speech

[06:49] is sort of a call to arms and she's

[06:51] putting it in the context of women and

[06:54] dating and whatever. I'll let you take a

[06:55] a little listen to this portion of her

[06:58] speech.

[06:59] And interestingly enough, in the history

[07:02] of Israel, as many of you guys know,

[07:03] because I know you guys go to a

[07:05] biblically based church, so you

[07:06] understand this, that the record of

[07:10] Israel is that there is constant

[07:12] invasion and warfare in the promised

[07:15] land. Because of this, the land rarely

[07:17] has a chance to flourish uninterrupted.

[07:21] And every so often when a king rises up,

[07:24] you know, they unify their people, they

[07:27] fend off the enemies, and for a brief

[07:29] moment, the people can finally enjoy

[07:31] peace. And it's not the peace that their

[07:34] military brings. It's the only type of

[07:36] peace that that God can grant true true

[07:39] peace where there's lasting prosperity

[07:41] and the people can flourish. And so the

[07:44] theme of Psalm 144 is this. Praise and

[07:48] prayer to God because of who he is, not

[07:50] just what he gives. So again, this psalm

[07:53] is it's a battle song. It's a call to

[07:57] arms, but it's also a call to trust and

[08:00] it's a call to worship and it's a call

[08:02] to prepare.

[08:04] Okay? Call to arms, call to worship,

[08:07] call to trust, call to understand that

[08:09] there's conflict in Israel at all times

[08:10] and this is like, you know, post

[08:12] genocide. So, I don't love that. But

[08:13] there was still something that was

[08:14] gnawing at me beyond the fact that like

[08:16] I said, James Katis is this like

[08:18] Egyptian pastor that's like radically

[08:19] pro-Israel that she does a lot of work

[08:20] with. Um, and he's he's very involved in

[08:23] Charting Point USA. This is literally

[08:24] his Prageru video. I'm an Egyptian

[08:25] pastor who supports Israel. And finally,

[08:28] it dawned on me. Okay, I'm going to

[08:30] explain it to you next up in our

[08:32] timeline. So, she gives this speech

[08:34] irrespective of what her husband's

[08:36] literally going through at this exact

[08:38] same time. Donor's pulling out, yelling

[08:40] at him as soon as he gets off stage.

[08:42] She's telling Tucker to go Max. Anyways,

[08:43] the president of United States is

[08:44] calling him. This is his wife. She knows

[08:45] this is all going on. Okay? If anybody's

[08:48] beefing with my husband, I'm the enemy.

[08:51] Like, I'm I'm like with my husband 100%.

[08:53] There's no halfway with that. I'm not

[08:55] going to say something cute to you. I'm

[08:56] going to be like off the Israel train

[08:58] immediately. Right after this on July

[09:00] 18th, uh that's when the request goes in

[09:03] for UVU. We still don't know who

[09:05] submitted that request. I told you it

[09:06] has literally never happened that you

[09:08] instantly get a a spot, the first spot

[09:11] of a semester tour. There's such a long

[09:13] waiting list to have Charlie go speak at

[09:16] their schools, but they suddenly made

[09:18] one. Um, it's this July 20th thing that

[09:21] it suddenly dawned on me what was

[09:22] bothering me about Erica being

[09:25] introduced pro-Israel and being

[09:27] pro-Israel on stage in the midst of

[09:29] everything Charlie was going through.

[09:31] July 20thish,

[09:34] Charlie vacationed in Maine for a couple

[09:35] of weeks. Okay, so let's just say from

[09:38] July 20th to July 30th, um he went off

[09:41] radar and this is when Mikey McCoy and

[09:43] Eliza and Elizabeth McCoy join them for

[09:46] the first time on vacation and they

[09:47] capture all these images that we're then

[09:48] going to see as soon as Charlie's

[09:49] assassinated. These images of him

[09:51] walking with Erica, like you know, just

[09:53] kind of, oh, this is a happy couple. And

[09:56] then right after in the midst of this,

[09:57] the same two weeks, Y Refi comes in as

[10:00] the number one sponsor for Charlie

[10:01] Kirk's fall tour. This is a total Israel

[10:03] coded company. Um, and it was weird

[10:07] because they had already signed a

[10:08] contract from January through December

[10:10] for all their events, but now they

[10:11] doubled down. What catalyzed that like

[10:14] sudden addendum to their contract? Like,

[10:16] yes, we want more. um you we're going to

[10:19] come in for this speaking tour that

[10:21] you're now going to do and the first

[10:22] one's going to be at UVU and me, the

[10:25] CEO, is going to travel with you uh at

[10:27] this event. Okay, that seems a bit

[10:29] weird. And then it dawned on me, I

[10:32] totally forgot something. Okay, and I'm

[10:34] just going to have to ask Tucker for

[10:36] forgiveness for sharing this because I

[10:38] knew that there was something bothering

[10:39] me about this main vacation. I had a

[10:42] baby and I think I blacked out after

[10:46] assassination

[10:47] and didn't remember that I went up to

[10:49] Maine too. I went up to Maine with my

[10:52] husband in July. Okay. My son was born

[10:54] on May 1st. We were off air and then the

[10:57] first thing I did was I went with my

[10:59] newborn Roman and my husband up to Maine

[11:03] to do Tucker's show and I did an

[11:06] interview and I genuinely forgot about

[11:09] this. Like I I genuinely forgot about

[11:12] this and we went in on the topic of

[11:15] Israel. I'm just going to show you a

[11:17] little 10-second clip here so you can

[11:18] get an idea of what I'm talking about.

[11:21] Since the 80s, Jeffrey Epstein has been

[11:22] working for Israel. I don't know how I

[11:24] know that and Trump and Pam Bondi don't,

[11:26] but they got to bring me in. Like I

[11:28] might have some evidence here, right?

[11:29] It's like so it's we're getting to a

[11:31] point now

[11:32] >> you're going to have tough confirmation

[11:33] hearings.

[11:33] >> I'm just I just want them to say f you.

[11:36] Like if seriously that would feel better

[11:38] at this point if they just came out and

[11:40] said f you no no no boo boo boo boo boo

[11:42] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[11:42] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[11:42] boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo

[11:42] boo boo boo boo boo you can't touch us

[11:44] we rule over you haha that would feel at

[11:47] least authentic going back to the Taylor

[11:48] runs thing you know I'd be like I really

[11:51] don't like that but at least it's

[11:53] authentic and I know you mean it and

[11:54] it's true

[11:57] >> all totally fair is does any of I mean

[12:00] to the extent that we can project

[12:02] forward and guess does does any of this

[12:05] come out I to a greater extent than it

[12:07] has. I mean, do is there ever like a

[12:08] public resolution of this story?

[12:10] >> No, because Israel is controlling our

[12:11] government. So, no, the answer is no.

[12:13] Trump is powerless against him. We

[12:15] haven't had I don't think we've been a

[12:16] sovereign nation since they shot JFK.

[12:18] And when I say they, it's like I people

[12:19] online say, "What do you mean by they?

[12:22] I'm talking about Israel. I don't want

[12:23] you guys to like, you know, read between

[12:25] I'm talking about Israel." So, like,

[12:26] let's stop making that a taboo subject

[12:28] because they've gone mask down.

[12:29] Everything they're doing is demonic. I

[12:30] want nothing to do with it. I will never

[12:32] support Israel into the future after

[12:33] what they've done to these children. uh

[12:34] the starvation campaign. I I don't care.

[12:38] I promise you I forgot that. I forgot

[12:40] that I had this I forgot that I went up

[12:42] to Maine until I was looking at this

[12:43] Erica speech and I was like I know what

[12:45] is bothering me about this speech.

[12:46] What's bothering me about the speech is

[12:48] that when I got off air with Tucker,

[12:50] obviously you just have chatter like

[12:52] just chatter in the air like about

[12:55] everything you just discussed and what's

[12:56] happening and everything we said there.

[12:58] We're talking about Epstein and Tucker

[13:01] said to me and I'm I'm obviously I'm not

[13:05] going to get this verbatim, but he was

[13:07] like, "Yeah, he talked about a SAS

[13:09] speech and he just said they're like,

[13:11] you know, taking money from Charlie

[13:13] because of this whole speech." And I was

[13:15] like, "Yeah, you know, Charlie's kind of

[13:16] coming over to our side. He's really had

[13:18] an awakening about this. We It's crazy

[13:20] that I forgot this, but it's the second

[13:22] part of what he said to me. He said, "I

[13:24] just had dinner with him and Erica. They

[13:26] were just here. I think he said like

[13:27] last night. I kid you not. It was They

[13:30] were just there in Maine having dinner

[13:32] with Tucker. I remember this. I am

[13:34] 1,000% certain days within me. It was

[13:38] like Charlie was there and then I was

[13:39] there. And he had dinner with Erica. and

[13:41] he said something which is the reason

[13:43] why I was happy when they announced that

[13:47] Erica was going to be CEO because before

[13:49] we could have ever known um that Charlie

[13:52] was going to be assassinated as we were

[13:53] sitting here in Maine talking about

[13:54] Israel and Epstein and what the pressure

[13:56] that Charlie was under Tucker was like I

[13:59] absolutely love Erica he's said this

[14:00] publicly a thousand times so I'm not

[14:02] revealing anything here and he was like

[14:04] she is like hardcore on the anti-Israel

[14:08] train and that she had gone in on dinner

[14:11] about everything and that, you know,

[14:14] this is who this is who Erica was. And I

[14:16] was like, "Oh, wow." Like, I actually

[14:17] never got to spend that kind of time

[14:18] with her. Like, I know I know Charlie's

[14:19] coming, but I don't I never really speak

[14:20] to Erica like that. And they had had

[14:22] this dinner in the midst of all of this

[14:23] sass stuff and I happened to be in

[14:25] Maine. And when I look at that and I

[14:28] plot that on the timeline, it convinces

[14:30] me that Erica is a psychopath. Genuinely

[14:32] convinces me that Erica psychopath

[14:34] because, and please Tucker, forgive me.

[14:36] I had to share that. I know you like

[14:38] her. I know you're a fan of Erica. I

[14:40] know we have different opinions and

[14:41] different perspectives,

[14:43] but this doesn't make sense. This this

[14:45] does not make sense that Erica gets on

[14:48] stage and is pro- Israel, blinks and is

[14:51] at dinner and is anti-Israel, more

[14:53] anti-Israel than Tucker. I mean, than

[14:55] than Charlie as we're talking about all

[14:57] this Epstein stuff and Charlie's under

[14:59] pressure. And then as soon as Charlie

[15:01] passes away, she's up on stage with

[15:02] Barry Weiss saying anybody that doesn't

[15:04] support Israel has brain rot. That's a

[15:07] psychopath. That is that is somebody who

[15:09] can be someone else in every room. And

[15:11] we have told this story over and over

[15:13] again about Erica. She literally just

[15:15] commutes her entire personality

[15:17] depending on who she's in front of. Like

[15:18] there there is no personality. It's who

[15:20] who is the audience. I'm a Catholic. If

[15:23] I'm in the back of a church and I'm with

[15:26] this donor who's got a lot of money and

[15:27] Stacy taps on their shoulder and I I

[15:30] share how Charlie was about to become

[15:32] Catholic and then the woman, as I shared

[15:34] with you guys, gets on a plane, brings

[15:36] back a relic of St. Michael because

[15:39] Erica's so hardcore Catholic and then

[15:41] she blinks and she instructs um Andrew

[15:44] Kovz to deny what I said about Charlie

[15:47] in the Catholic church. Like literally

[15:49] the next week she okays Alex Clark

[15:52] coming out and saying I'm a liar.

[15:54] Erica's a psychopath. I this this is

[15:57] like I just it just dawned on me. She

[15:59] was playing this game while Charlie was

[16:01] alive. And if I didn't do this timeline,

[16:03] if I didn't remember that I was in Maine

[16:05] having this casual conversation when

[16:07] everybody was friends and Charlie was

[16:09] alive and Charlie was under a lot of

[16:10] pressure, I I would have I probably

[16:14] would not have reflected on this little

[16:16] tidbit that proves that Erica's a

[16:18] psychopath. She's not a She wasn't a

[16:20] grieving widow in August and July. Okay?

[16:24] She wasn't a grieving widow. She was a

[16:26] manipulative psychopath who puts on a

[16:29] different outfit, a different costume

[16:33] depending on what play she has to put

[16:35] on. Okay, that's that's just like an

[16:38] established fact that Erica is she has

[16:42] demonstrated over and over again the

[16:44] attributes of a psychopath.

[16:47] I'm with Tucker. I'm anti-Israel.

[16:50] I'm with Barry Weiss. People who don't

[16:52] support Israel have brain rot brain rot.

[16:54] I'm with an Egyptian pastor. I love

[16:56] Israel. There's conflict here because of

[16:58] a call to arms. That's not normal. How

[17:03] weird. If you had learned that after

[17:05] doing this podcast, I was just yucking

[17:08] it up with Ben Shapiro talking about how

[17:10] much I love is Yamaka growing. You'd be

[17:12] like, "That's weird." And oh, I was

[17:14] like, "Oh gosh, these like terrible

[17:16] Palestinians. They don't have a right to

[17:17] any land. Who are they? They don't even

[17:19] exist. Palestine doesn't exist." that

[17:21] would register to you that I was a

[17:24] psychopath because it's hard to do that.

[17:26] It's hard to perform in front of people.

[17:28] I don't understand genuinely genuinely

[17:32] how Tucker can like her. I don't I don't

[17:36] and and maybe it's cuz he is usually off

[17:39] on a boat fishing. Doesn't watch a lot

[17:41] of podcasts. Highly doubt that he is

[17:43] watching the timeline and the

[17:44] conflicting

[17:46] eras.

[17:47] She doesn't have the time. She's uh

[17:49] graduated school. She's not graduate

[17:50] school. Everything she says is in

[17:52] conflict with the thing that she said

[17:53] yesterday because there is no

[17:55] personality.

[17:56] Elizabeth Lane clocked her correctly.

[17:59] She is whatever she needs to be on her

[18:02] way to empowerment.

[18:06] She was not a grieving widow. to I'm

[18:09] going to have to politely request that

[18:11] you already shut up in trying to defend

[18:15] why it would be that she was being two

[18:18] different people within one week when

[18:22] she should have just been anti because

[18:23] of how her husband was being treated

[18:25] behind the scenes. Okay, just got to get

[18:28] that off my chest.

[18:30] What follows that is August 5th to 6th,

[18:33] the Hampton's retreat. I mean, this

[18:34] timeline's crazy to look at to me now.

[18:37] Crazy Hampton's retreat intervention,

[18:39] the influencer sponsored by Bill Aman,

[18:42] who just was mentioned on stage about

[18:44] the Epstein stuff. Not about the Epstein

[18:46] stuff, pardon me. Um, but in relation to

[18:48] uh him asking questions, Tucker asking

[18:51] questions about Israel and where certain

[18:52] money is coming from. He brings up Bill

[18:54] Aman, his wealth. This also caused panic

[18:56] on the back end. This is Charlie Summit

[18:58] that Charlie himself described as an

[19:00] intervention that Erica was present at,

[19:02] but she would allow people to lie. BB

[19:04] calls him, offers to take Turning Point

[19:06] to the next level in exchange for what?

[19:08] We still don't know. But Charlie

[19:10] declines. Charlie says no to BB. Trump,

[19:13] I believe, said yes. Trump said yes.

[19:17] Charlie said no. My opinion, I'm

[19:19] sticking to it, especially after reading

[19:22] that Epstein piece. Especially after

[19:24] what Tucker has revealed about Butler.

[19:26] This is all Israelcoded. It makes sense.

[19:29] It is in our face. The puzzle has been

[19:31] coming together forever. It's the very

[19:33] first thing they lied about was to

[19:35] protect Israel. No one would have cared

[19:37] if his opinion was shifting on Israel

[19:38] because it could just be that's allowed.

[19:41] But all the lies that were told about

[19:43] it. Yeah, that means it's a clue.

[19:47] Then August 15th, Erica goes to the

[19:49] Aster at the Aspen investor retreat, but

[19:52] she doesn't actually go to the meeting

[19:54] even though she's I guess going to be

[19:56] CEO or whatever. And Charlie just

[19:58] appoints her a couple weeks before he

[20:00] dies, changing his mind on everything

[20:01] he's ever said, every position he's ever

[20:02] held about women.

[20:05] That's not right. Okay, that timeline is

[20:09] not right.