Candace Owens Reveals Utah Medical Examiner's Wife Runs Furry Gaming Community

[00:00] So, erotic roleplay, um, is different

[00:02] from cybersex in the sense that in

[00:05] erotic roleplay, you have this roleplay

[00:08] component.

[00:11] >> I would like to, again, stress the point

[00:14] that Dr. Ashley has spent the last 10

[00:18] years working as a professor in Utah. I

[00:21] don't even know where to begin, so we're

[00:23] just going to start, okay?

[00:25] His name is Dr. Andrew Gouardo. He is

[00:28] from New York. He moved to Utah in 2018

[00:33] and was working as an assistant at the

[00:35] medical examiner's office.

[00:37] In 2024, when our chief medical

[00:40] examiner, Dr. Deidra Amaro,

[00:43] uh,

[00:43] began to rule the roost, she decided to

[00:45] select him as her deputy, so he was

[00:48] promoted in 2024

[00:51] when she got there to the role of deputy

[00:53] chief examiner. Okay.

[00:56] So, Charlie Kirk, we are told, we were

[00:58] told, things are kind of shifting now,

[01:00] but we were really told that he was

[01:02] murdered by a trans furry kid on a

[01:05] rooftop, a gamer.

[01:08] I do want to say there's still no proof

[01:10] of him being trans or into trans furries

[01:14] beyond the influencers that were

[01:15] immediately sent out to tell us this was

[01:17] a left versus right war, that there was

[01:20] an LGBTQ narrative here.

[01:23] Uh, we were also told that he confessed

[01:26] to his crime to his friends, his fellow

[01:29] gamers, on Discord. Here are some of

[01:32] those messages that he, uh, tells them

[01:36] that he's speaking to people, Jug

[01:38] Barnaby, Marina, we've got a girl in

[01:41] there, a guy in there, and he says, "Hey

[01:43] guys, I have bad news for you all. It

[01:45] was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for

[01:47] all of this. I'm surrendering through a

[01:48] sheriff friend in a few moments. Thanks

[01:51] for all the good times and laughs.

[01:52] You've all been so amazing. Thank you

[01:54] for everything."

[01:56] Such such an odd to do to just

[01:59] keep confessing.

[02:01] Right?

[02:02] Uh Lance Tyler Lance Twiggs Tyler

[02:05] Robinson's alleged boyfriend has

[02:07] indicated in his interview that Tyler

[02:10] was very into gaming, not politics, he

[02:14] said, but gaming.

[02:16] So we have a storyline which involves

[02:18] trans furry gamers to be specific.

[02:22] Now of course the majority of the public

[02:25] is suspicious. Right? Just suspicious to

[02:28] say the least over the text messages,

[02:30] the Discord confessions, even more so

[02:33] after seeing the Spider-Man ninja who

[02:35] jumped from a Lozi rooftop with the

[02:37] skill precision and fearlessness of a

[02:39] SEAL Team Six member.

[02:42] But after listening to the preliminary

[02:43] hearing, we suspect that Tyler

[02:46] plausible

[02:48] could have been set up by Lance.

[02:50] His prints are everywhere.

[02:52] He lives with him.

[02:54] Uh he had the login to It's plausible

[02:58] that he could have had a login to his

[02:59] boyfriend's Discord. That wouldn't be

[03:01] strange when you're dating someone and

[03:03] living with them. Uh his prints were

[03:06] less degraded certainly than Tyler

[03:09] Robinson's were on the gun which had

[03:11] dust in the barrel, so likely wasn't

[03:12] even fired. Who could have had access to

[03:14] Tyler's stuff?

[03:16] The Discord element just feels a little

[03:19] fetty, right? Just a little federal

[03:22] trappy,

[03:24] I might say.

[03:26] So who is this Dr. Andrew Gahardo?

[03:29] Right? Anything that might be of

[03:31] interest in his background? That was

[03:32] kind of how Ashley began. She's like,

[03:34] "Oh, I want to go up to the medical

[03:35] examiner.

[03:36] I wonder who he is." I said, "Yeah, we

[03:38] should get to that." And it turns out

[03:40] there's something very interesting to

[03:42] know about him.

[03:43] And it's who he's married to. His wife

[03:45] is someone

[03:46] who might be of interest, who might be

[03:48] an expert in this category. Honestly,

[03:50] they might bring her in as an expert,

[03:52] because Dr. Andrew Guajardo

[03:55] is married to a furry.

[03:58] I kid you not. Or at least the very

[04:00] least we can assert is that he's married

[04:01] to someone who encourages, supports,

[04:03] works with, and propagates the culture

[04:05] of furries, and occasionally dresses up

[04:08] as one herself. He's married to a woman

[04:10] named Dr. Ashley Brown Guajardo, and

[04:14] here she is. Meet Ashley.

[04:25] Now we had to we obviously turned the

[04:27] sound off because there was music as she

[04:29] was dancing as a furry, and she was

[04:31] promoting

[04:32] her book, and she used the hashtag, you

[04:35] know, furry. We're going to read what

[04:37] this book is about before I tell you

[04:38] more about her, cuz this is just all

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[05:43] Let's all pull this up, Penguin Random

[05:45] House book that she was promoting. She

[05:47] She published this book, Play Like a Fan

[05:50] Girl, okay?

[05:51] And can you scroll down because it tells

[05:53] you us the description. I don't know if

[05:54] you can make that bigger, but I yeah, I

[05:56] can my eyesight's always so bad during

[05:57] pregnancy. It says that the book

[05:59] description is about how women and queer

[06:01] gamers can express any listen elicit

[06:03] excitement, creativity, and desire in

[06:05] online gaming communities and beyond.

[06:08] How do cosplayers, modders, fan artists,

[06:11] fan fiction authors, and TikTok content

[06:13] creators build communities for

[06:14] marginalized and underserved fans of

[06:16] games? In Play Like a Fan Girl,

[06:19] uh Christine and Ashley and Tanya, these

[06:21] are the auth- authors are going to look

[06:23] at the collective efforts of such fans

[06:25] to create meaningful and arousing

[06:27] connections to the video game worlds, to

[06:30] characters, and to one another. Using

[06:32] pleasure as a lens, they show how fans

[06:36] playful practices both reflect current

[06:38] cultural values and shape how we relate

[06:40] to video games and ourselves.

[06:42] They develop the concept of what they

[06:45] call the fan girl gaze to show how

[06:47] communities of fan girls can be regarded

[06:48] as oppositional, subversive, and

[06:50] transformative in terms of societal

[06:52] expectations and gender, play, and sex.

[06:55] Okay, you get the idea.

[06:57] Now, you're probably wondering how

[06:59] Ashley became a doctor. How did she

[07:02] become a doctor? Well, sociology,

[07:05] uh sociology is uh how she climbed the

[07:09] teaching ladder after achieving her

[07:12] degree and guess where she achieved it,

[07:15] at Arizona State University.

[07:17] Uh she then earned her PhD in sociology

[07:20] overseas at the University of

[07:22] Manchester, and then she became a

[07:23] teacher. She's accessed to preschool

[07:25] kids. Um what we learned from her bio is

[07:28] that uh quote, "Previously, Dr. Goardo

[07:31] was faculty at Brunel University in

[07:33] London and then the University of Utah."

[07:36] Been there for

[07:38] um

[07:39] almost 10 years, last 10 years.

[07:42] She won awards for innovative and

[07:43] inclusive teaching at both institutions.

[07:46] Since 2017, she's hosted a weekly

[07:48] educational Twitch stream on games user

[07:52] research models. Uh methods, pardon.

[07:55] She's also held several leadership

[07:56] positions in industry and academia

[07:58] facing professional organizations. She

[08:00] was vice president of the Global Game

[08:03] Jam conference, co-director of IGDA's

[08:06] Games User Research Special Interest

[08:09] Group. I'd like to see who funds the

[08:10] IGDA.

[08:12] And currently serves as the president of

[08:14] the Digital Games Research Association.

[08:17] I would like to see who funds that. Just

[08:19] so I know about the Feds.

[08:21] This is how they move money. Give me an

[08:23] association, a 501c3, we'll get money in

[08:26] there.

[08:27] Anyway, um as I told you, she's the

[08:29] author of many books, but also the

[08:31] author of Sexuality and Role-Playing

[08:33] Games, dozens of book chapters, journal

[08:35] articles on fandom, sexuality,

[08:37] particularly video games, tabletop

[08:39] role-playing games, and she's currently

[08:42] working on a book which explores how

[08:44] fantasy can shape your sexual desire.

[08:46] But the biggest thing that I want to

[08:47] underscore is just how deeply

[08:50] uh submerged she is in gamer culture.

[08:53] How deeply tied she is to gay the gamer

[08:56] community. And for the last 10 years,

[08:57] she's been in Utah.

[08:58] And she works and explains the

[09:00] philosophy of how gamers can engage with

[09:04] characters, create characters outside of

[09:07] themselves. That is her expertise. She

[09:09] encourages and explains how people uh

[09:12] effectively can sort of separate from

[09:14] their real-life persona. And that, by

[09:16] the way, is what a furry is. It's not

[09:19] like it uh it's the LGBTQIA

[09:21] thing. I had to look this up. I'm going

[09:22] to read this to you cuz I was like, I

[09:24] don't even know what a furry is. It

[09:25] says, "The term furry describes a

[09:27] diverse community of fans, writers,

[09:29] gamers, and role-players."

[09:32] Most furries create themselves a an

[09:34] animal character called their fursona

[09:38] with whom they identify and can function

[09:41] as an avatar within the community. So,

[09:44] this is not me. This is my avatar.

[09:48] That is separate from me. So, you guys

[09:49] remember when Lance was testifying and

[09:50] he said that the preliminary hearing

[09:53] that he goes by Luna? And for some

[09:54] reason I felt like it was going to be

[09:55] some animas. Like, what? I don't know if

[09:57] he's I don't think he's trans. I think

[09:58] it was just going to be some gamer

[09:59] thing. I suspect that that is what Luna

[10:02] is. It's a gaming character that he

[10:05] engages with outside of Lance Twix.

[10:09] Okay?

[10:10] Here is how Dr. Ashley might explain how

[10:13] that engagement works. Take a listen.

[10:16] >> So, erotic role play um is different

[10:18] from cybersex in the sense that in

[10:21] erotic role play you have this role play

[10:24] component. Meaning that people are not

[10:28] at least

[10:30] explicitly playing as themselves.

[10:33] They are not

[10:34] um seeking out sexual interaction in a

[10:37] game or in a chat room or otherwise as

[10:41] the human being that they are in their

[10:43] day-to-day life. They are playing the

[10:45] role of a character

[10:47] perhaps in a fantasy world, perhaps from

[10:50] a popular franchise like Star Wars um or

[10:55] just their own original character, but

[10:57] they are playing this character that is

[10:59] different from them with different

[11:01] wants, needs, hopes, and dreams, and

[11:04] they're engaging with erotic content.

[11:05] So, cybersex on the other hand would be

[11:08] when people want to engage with

[11:11] uh sexual content online or, you know,

[11:15] if it's phone sex then it's through the

[11:16] phone, but that would be as themselves.

[11:19] So, in terms of practice, what are we

[11:22] actually talking about? Well, the two

[11:23] are very similar because at the end of

[11:25] the day you're still using a keyboard to

[11:27] type out your erotic thoughts and

[11:29] feelings and and emotions. The

[11:31] difference being that one person is

[11:32] doing it as a character and one person

[11:34] is doing it as themselves.

[11:39] >> Okay.

[11:40] I would like to again stress the point

[11:43] that Dr. Ashley has spent the last 10

[11:47] years working as a professor in Utah.

[11:50] Okay? At the University of Utah in Salt

[11:53] Lake City encouraging her students and

[11:55] her gamers to join her on her Discord,

[11:58] to follow her Twitch, her streamer

[12:00] account.

[12:01] And I'm wondering how big can this

[12:03] community of gamers that are into this

[12:06] be throughout the state of Utah?

[12:10] I'm wondering have we identified

[12:11] everybody on this Discord chat? I'm

[12:12] wondering

[12:15] can we Is this a coincidence?

[12:17] How big can this community be? And

[12:19] similar

[12:20] to um Dr. Amara, Dr. Amara has left uh

[12:24] the building. She's no longer at Utah.

[12:26] Ashley and her husband have both They've

[12:29] now gone to New York. He's accepted Now

[12:32] he's going to be the chief medical

[12:33] examiner in New York and she's going to

[12:34] be teaching at NYU. We should pull up

[12:37] her LinkedIn, by the way. We should pull

[12:38] up just a sh- like

[12:40] not barred from being around kids,

[12:41] actually encourages it. Now she's the

[12:43] assistant arts professor at NYU

[12:45] full-time. So they up and left um

[12:48] associate professor. I guess she left

[12:50] ahead of her husband. I don't think

[12:51] that's right cuz he didn't leave until

[12:52] after obviously he did the medical

[12:53] examiner's office and they are they are

[12:54] married. But assistant professor,

[12:56] University of Utah. She's just been

[12:59] around

[13:01] students for a very long time.

[13:04] So again, I'll ask the question, how big

[13:06] can this particular gaming furry create

[13:10] a character that is outside of yourself,

[13:13] join me on Discord, Twitch community in

[13:16] Utah be?

[13:18] Has she ever come across Lance Twigs?

[13:20] That's be a question that I would ask. I

[13:22] just feel like that's a question that I

[13:24] would like to know the answer to across

[13:25] her 10-year

[13:27] uh career in Utah and also being on the

[13:30] board and working with these outside

[13:33] organizations and associations

[13:35] uh studying these people and encouraging

[13:38] this lifestyle.

[13:40] I'll leave it at that.

[13:43] Because I am just

[13:44] jaw on the floor with all of this. So,

[13:46] Charlie effectively had a a lesbian cuz

[13:49] Dr. Maro was dating a woman

[13:51] um and Deidra Amaro and

[13:55] I don't know what to describe

[13:57] Dr. Andrew as.

[13:59] Andrew Gardo, I guess. I don't know. He

[14:01] What? He's married, too? He's got to be

[14:03] remotely into this.

[14:06] Too many coincidences.

[14:10] >> [music]