Charles Ortel and Jason Goodman Examine Turning Point USA's Financial Records Following Charlie Kirk's Death
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Charles Ortel and Jason Goodman Examine Turning Point USA's Financial Records Following Charlie Kirk's Death
Charles Ortel and Jason Goodman explore financial irregularities at Turning Point USA after founder Charlie Kirk's death. They examine nonprofit filings, allegations against Tyler Bowyer, and discuss why the FBI's involvement may prevent proper scrutiny of the organization's finances. Brian Ference's research on Redacted reveals new details about alleged coverups. The conversation also addresses the broader pattern of government control over public opinion, from Project Veritas to Fox News, and how Kirk's campus activism threatened that control. Ortel draws parallels to Clinton Foundation corruption and questions whether a planned audit will proceed.
The Unusual Circumstances Surrounding Kirk's Death
Jason Goodman opens by acknowledging the seriousness of examining Charlie Kirk's death while explaining their choice to use a "Who Killed Charlie Kirk" poster inspired by Who Framed Roger Rabbit. He notes Kirk's significance and the unusual level of attention his death has received compared to other public figures.
Goodman presents research showing that spouse involvement in murders occurs in approximately 10% of cases, with perpetrators typically being someone the victim knows. While emphasizing they're not accusing Erika Kirk of wrongdoing, he argues the public's suspicion is statistically warranted.
Government Control of Public Opinion
Charles Ortel discusses how controlling public opinion has become a classified objective of the federal government at the highest levels. He traces this pattern from the Soviet era through China's rise, questioning why the Obama, Bush, Biden, and Clinton families worked to "sell out America" and why Britain forfeited Hong Kong.
Ortel describes the Biden regime as "naked in what they were doing to anybody who would challenge him," citing Senator Joe Manchin's claims that his life and family were threatened. He emphasizes that if progressives gain control in 2029, the Trump family faces serious consequences.
The Arctic Frost Revelations
The conversation turns to revelations about Jack Smith and Merrick Garland's targeting of elected officials. What began as nine people—eight senators and one congressperson—expanded to 160, then to 460 within a week. Ortel describes Jack Smith as "a despicable human being" based on his record at the Justice Department's Office of Public Integrity.
Ortel recounts being interviewed by FBI agents in December 2018 just as his wife Clarissa was dying, questioning whether the timing was deliberately chosen to catch him emotionally vulnerable. He draws parallels between these tactics and the broader pattern of government harassment of dissidents.
Charlie Kirk's Impact and Threat to the Establishment
Ortel argues that controlling 535 members of Congress, nine Supreme Court justices, and state-level officials is easily managed by the 35,000-person FBI. However, managing students on college campuses—the future political leaders—presents a different challenge.
Kirk's campus activism, where he would hand the microphone to "blue-haired maniacs with nose piercings and tattoos" and then thoughtfully dismantle their arguments, represented "true education and bravery." Ortel believes Kirk moved the needle in the 2024 election when Trump won the youth vote.
Drawing on family history, Ortel shares how his great-grandfather Austin Carlos Gormley died at 42 from appendicitis, cutting short what classmate Luke Callaway (later Montana Supreme Court Chief Justice) believed was a path to the presidency. Ortel suggests Kirk might have followed a similar trajectory, potentially serving eight years as president and inspiring followers like populist William Jennings Bryan.
The FBI Investigation and Kash Patel's Opposition
Goodman reports recent developments where Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, and Joe Kent are attempting to take over the investigation, with Patel strongly opposing making the Office of the Director of National Intelligence the lead counterintelligence agency. Ortel interviewed Joe Kent, describing him as someone who ran for Congress in Washington and has military background.
Ortel warns that opening a national security level investigation gives investigators the ability to "sweep under the rug the pesky details" that journalists might want to examine, arguing there should be a proper murder investigation instead.
Financial Irregularities at Turning Point USA
The hosts discuss major questions about the finances and filings of Turning Point USA and its allied organizations. Brian Ference has been researching the nonprofit and recently appeared on Redacted, presenting evidence of coverups involving Tyler Bowyer, who has been accused of sexual harassment and assault.
Ortel explains the vulnerabilities inherent in organizations targeting campuses: "You've got a lot of students with student loans who are trying... Kirk basically didn't go to college, right? He just started this organization and it became a major factor throwing a lot of money around. You're a college student in debt and you don't have a job. Some of you are going to do anything you can do to get into the income stream."
Brian Ference's research allegedly shows that hot young college girls were hired and then sexually assaulted, with victims being hit with lawsuits citing non-disclosure agreements. After Kirk's death, a planned audit into financial impropriety appears to have been cancelled.
The Nonprofit World Under Scrutiny
Ortel reflects on writing about the Clinton Foundation for Breitbart in 2015, noting that people were "dumbfounded that a presidential charity would be this poorly run and this boldly fraudulent." After investigating charities for 11 years, he now believes "most charities have very bad elements associated with them."
Large charities with international operations or chapter structures require particular scrutiny. Ortel raises questions about how chapters spend money, whether "a beer blast" constitutes legitimate charity operations, and how organizations account for leftover food and alcohol from parties—especially when dealing with college students who need spending money.
The Evidence Bounty Challenge
Goodman discusses his evidence bounty, now at $4,314 and running until November 4th, challenging experts to disprove his thesis that Charlie Kirk was shot from behind by a projectile traveling at 500 feet per second. He emphasizes that challengers must understand his specific claims about the iPhone's 240 hertz mode recording at 240 subframes per second, detailed in his article citing the iPhone's Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby patents.
The bounty remains unclaimed despite critics who dismiss the theory without engaging with the technical evidence presented.
