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Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens Challenge Gender Ideology, Big Pharma, and Modern Feminism at Wisconsin Campus Event

April 22, 2022

Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens brought their unfiltered conservative message to the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, tackling everything from gender ideology to pharmaceutical industry corruption. The duo addressed a packed room of students and activists, dismantling the idea that men can become women, exposing Black Lives Matter as a real estate scheme, and questioning the unchecked power of Big Pharma. Candace shared her personal experience with vaccine injury from Gardasil and explained why she refuses to identify as a feminist despite fighting for women's spaces. Charlie discussed his Eagle Scout background and why he now hopes the Boy Scouts of America goes bankrupt. Both speakers emphasized the importance of living according to truth rather than cultural pressure, encouraging the audience to choose freedom through virtue over the false freedom of social degeneracy.

Defending Reality in an Era of Confusion

Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens opened their University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee event by addressing one of the most contentious questions in modern American discourse: What is a woman? Candace quipped that she's "not a biologist," mocking Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson's refusal to define the term during her confirmation hearings.

"We've arrived at a place where a Supreme Court justice can't answer that question," Candace explained. She traced the transgender movement's rise back several years, recalling how conservatives initially dismissed her warnings as overblown. "I said this is what's going to come around the corner. It seemed so obvious to me that this was going to place emphasis on children, that it was also going to deconstruct what was already a radicalized feminist movement."

She described the current moment as "the abolition of women," pointing to the contradiction of self-proclaimed feminists who won't defend women's spaces from biological males. "I am not a feminist," Candace declared. "I don't support the MeToo movement because this is about the takedown of men."

The Attack on Masculinity and Femininity

Both speakers emphasized that traditional gender roles are under systematic assault. Candace, who was eleven weeks from giving birth to her second child at the time of the event, spoke passionately about the significance of masculinity and femininity.

"Both are under attack right now," she said. "It's suddenly bad to be a masculine man. They're trying to make men more effeminate but also saying to women that you shouldn't aspire to womanhood, you shouldn't aspire to family. There's something wrong with you if you want to be a stay-at-home mom."

She described the beauty of complementary gender roles she witnessed in her grandparents' marriage, where her grandfather led the household respectfully and both partners had distinct, valued roles. "The best part of every single day that I have is making it home to my family, providing a meal for them, having that time, sharing stories, raising your children," Candace said.

The progressive attempt to erase these distinctions, she argued, ultimately serves government expansion. "When you absolve the family, when you absolve what it means to be a man which gives you worth, when you absolve what it means to be a woman which ultimately gives you worth, what you are left with is an incredibly dependent society that's turning to government and worshiping at the mantle of government."

Why Feminism Has Lost Its Way

Candace explained why modern feminism has abandoned the defense of women, particularly in cases like Lia Thomas, a biological male who won an NCAA women's swimming championship. "Those people are not actually feminists," she said. "What you see increasingly with radicalized movements is that they borrow words from the past that actually meant something."

She compared this linguistic theft to how terms like "racist" have been drained of meaning. "Racism used to mean something. Now it just means that you disagree with me, I don't like you, and therefore you're a white supremacist."

Feminism, Candace argued, has become just another tool for cultural Marxism rather than a genuine movement for women's wellbeing. "The radicalized women's movement actually does nothing but make women miserable," she said, describing women who bought into feminist lies and now find themselves bitter, childless, and unfulfilled in middle age.

The Concept of Over-Civilization

Candace introduced what she calls "over-civilization" to explain America's current cultural insanity. "What tends to happen when you end up in these times of extreme remarkable privilege is that people create challenges where there are none," she explained.

She argued that humans have a natural drive to achieve and progress, to be part of a generation that accomplishes something heroic. But when a society has largely solved its major problems—ending slavery, securing women's suffrage, defeating fascism—that drive doesn't disappear.

"We're so proud of ourselves, that's natural in the human spirit. We want to achieve, we're naturally achievers. But when you arrive in a generation where really we've got it right, we're civilized, we've put an end to slavery, put an end to racism, we put an end to women not being allowed to vote, then what does that spirit strive toward?"

Her answer: "Stupidity. They start fires where there are none." This leads to absurdities like fighting over bathroom signs and allowing biological men to compete in women's sports, ultimately moving society backward rather than forward.

Black Lives Matter: A Real Estate Empire

Charlie and Candace discussed the Black Lives Matter movement, which Candace described as a massive financial scam. "I exercised absolutely no humility in saying that I was right," she declared. "I spent years being called a race traitor for pointing out what was so plainly obvious."

She criticized supporters who became "perfect little billboards for a company you didn't know who was running it, you had no idea where the money was going, you just started screaming because it was the fun thing to do."

The movement raised billions of dollars worldwide, Candace noted, yet "not a single building, not a single Black Lives Matter corporate office" was built to actually help Black communities. Instead, "they burned down Black neighborhoods, they burned down police precincts, they can't get police to streets anymore, we have autonomous zones, criminality has never been higher in these inner cities."

She emphasized that opposition to BLM doesn't make someone racist. "I do not betray my race. I betray stupidity all the time, and stupidity comes in many different colors."

The Cowardice of Conservative Capitulation

Both speakers criticized conservatives who lacked the courage to speak truth during the "Floyd-palooza" period. Candace pointed out that capitulation happened across the political spectrum—the left enthusiastically supporting every new cause, while the right remained silent out of fear.

"Race still makes people uncomfortable," she said. "It became this threat, this political bullet to your head: you either support Black Lives Matter or you're a racist. No, no, no. It doesn't work like that. There's a lot of gray area, there's a lot of nuance."

She connected this pattern to other issues where people are forced into false binaries: "You either declare yourself to be a feminist or you don't want equal rights between men and women. You either put up a Ukrainian flag in your yard or you're a Putin puppet."

"The cowardice does exist on the right," Candace continued. "The second that you catch yourself making statements like 'I'm not a racist but I'd like to talk about Black Lives Matter,' you're already playing their game. You have a right to discuss issues deeper than the surface level."

Elon Musk and the Twitter Awakening

When asked about Elon Musk's attempted purchase of Twitter, Candace praised the move as brilliant regardless of outcome. "There's no way to lose," she said. "It's leading to a global awakening about just how corrupt the system is."

She argued that Twitter has been operating as an ideological battleground rather than a legitimate business. "We know that if he ever got into that company, into the weeds of it, we would see that Twitter has been operating bot accounts, they've been creating faux trends, things that are not possibly trending they make trend."

Candace suggested Twitter has manufactured popularity for certain politicians and publications, citing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and The Daily Beast as examples. Even if the deal doesn't go through, she argued, "America will be better for having seen just how corrupt and dysfunctional it is and how we really don't live in the economy, in the world that we believe that we do."

Charlie added that the Twitter saga reveals something market fundamentalists often miss: "The profit motive is actually not the highest on the hierarchy." If it were, Twitter's board would have accepted Musk's offer immediately. Instead, "there are things that matter more than the profit motive, and that's the prestige and the power motive."

He explained that Twitter's board runs "something closer to a Democrat super PAC regime propaganda censorship machine that exists to stifle the voices they don't like and elevate the ones they like."

The Boy Scouts: A Moral Disgrace

As an Eagle Scout himself, Charlie spoke with authority about the decline of the Boy Scouts of America. "The Boy Scouts of America started as a wonderful institution that helped develop generals that fought in World War II, presidents, statesmen, entrepreneurs and business people. My life was very impacted favorably from the Boy Scouts."

However, he now believes the organization has become a "moral disgrace" and says he hopes "they go bankrupt, I hope they fold."

His primary objection is allowing girls into the Boy Scouts. "It's complete, first of all, just on its face the dumbest thing you could possibly imagine, but it's also morally wrong."

Charlie explained that boys being around other boys and men is crucial for healthy development. "Every clinical study will show this: you have boys amongst one another trying to get stronger or complete an obstacle course. The minute you put one girl within the zip code of that, all their behavior changes."

Instead of building teams and lifting one another up, the boys immediately shift to trying to impress the girl, fundamentally changing the dynamic. Beyond this issue, Charlie also criticized the organization for covering up sex abuse scandals.

He recommended parents remove their children from Boy Scouts and consider alternatives like Trail Life, a Christian-based outdoor program for boys.

Big Pharma: The Biggest Drug Cartel in History

Candace delivered a passionate critique of the pharmaceutical industry, arguing it represents the greatest threat to American liberty. "You have more Big Pharma lobbyists in DC than we have representatives in Congress. It's a huge problem. These people are bought and paid for."

She compared pharmaceutical companies to infamous drug cartels: "If you thought Pablo Escobar and El Chapo were big, you need to look around your own country because you have the biggest drug cartel that has ever operated on the face of the planet happening right here in America."

Candace shared her personal story of vaccine injury from Gardasil when she was 20 years old. "I had a seizure in the office. I'd never had a seizure in my life. When I kind of woke up from that episode, the doctor said well you shouldn't complete this, and I began researching just that vaccine and I was very horrified at what I found."

Her research revealed that cervical cancer rates actually rose after Gardasil's introduction, and the vaccine was marketed using fear tactics around cancer. This experience led her to investigate childhood vaccines more broadly.

She noted that when she was a child, the vaccine schedule required maybe 12 shots from birth to age 18. "Today kids have to get 70 plus, about 75 vaccines. And let me tell you, the kids are not healthier today than they were when I was growing up. They're sicker than they've ever been. Everyone's got an allergy, an autoimmune disorder."

Candace clarified that she's not telling people what to do, but believes informed consent requires accurate information. "You cannot make a sound decision unless you were actually given the real information, and that's what it's all about—allowing people to make informed decisions."

Freedom Through Virtue, Not Degeneracy

When a student asked whether legalizing marijuana would make America freer, both speakers pushed back against the premise. Candace warned about the slippery slope: "People kept saying the slippery slope wasn't real. 'If we legalize pot we'll just be a freer country, a more relaxed country.' But it's not like we're just going to slide into suddenly legalizing methamphetamine. Oh well, we did that pretty quickly."

She pointed to injection sites in New York City and Oregon's decriminalization of all drugs as evidence that the logic of drug legalization leads to social collapse.

Charlie reframed the question around the definition of freedom itself. "It depends what your definition of freer is. Do you have a proper definition of freedom, or do you have this classical liberal social degeneracy view of freedom?"

He argued that true freedom isn't the ability to engage in public nudity or defecate on streets. "Freedom is the pursuit of virtue. Freedom is getting in alignment with natural law and going towards a desirable outcome so you can live in harmony with God's commands. Freedom is not being able to just go to an injection site and having pleasure at will."

Both speakers shared that they rarely drink alcohol anymore and feel freer because of it. "An alcoholic is the least free person in the world," Charlie said. "I am the most free in my sobriety," Candace agreed.

She reflected on how much money she spent drinking in college and concluded: "Freedom is about temperance, freedom is about control, and you realize that as you get older."

Charlie closed with a warning: "Pleasure comes with a price, and the sooner you realize that, the better. Anything that quickly rushes serotonin and dopamine from an external influence—whether it be pornography, marijuana, methamphetamines, psychedelics, or alcohol—comes with a price."

Living in Communities That Reflect Your Values

Several students asked about navigating life in liberal areas. Candace was blunt in her advice to a small business owner in a liberal Michigan city: "Pick up and move your business to a conservative-leaning area."

She explained this isn't about partisan cheerleading but practical reality. "When you're in liberal districts, they create government policies that are meant to punish and penalize people for being successful. If you're a good person that follows the law and you start a business, they are going to tax you into oblivion and transfer those tax dollars to support the criminals on the street."

California, New York City, and Chicago serve as cautionary examples of places where entrepreneurship is punished. Candace moved her businesses to Tennessee for exactly this reason.

When asked if this applies to individuals as well as businesses, both speakers strongly agreed. Charlie left Illinois for Arizona, explaining: "Illinois really left me. I want to start a family. I want to live around people that can tell me what a woman is, that believe life begins at some point and doesn't believe in post-birth abortion, where I don't have to worry that my guns are going to be confiscated or that kids in our community are going to be taught about lesbian sex when they're four years old."

Candace connected this to natural human behavior: "Find your tribe. People do that whether you're first day of kindergarten making your friends, finding people that you have things in common with. When you become an adult and you're out in the world, it's the exact same thing. It's totally natural."

Converting Hearts and Changing Minds

When asked about the most rewarding outcomes of their speaking events, Charlie identified two things: "People that say you totally changed my mind on a topic or issue. The most rewarding thing is where people say they gave their life to Christ because of what we're doing. That's the most important thing."

He also values hearing from people who agreed but were afraid to speak out and now feel empowered. "If good people agree with you and they don't repeat what they hear that they know is true, then the event just dies after we're done. But if some of you are now inspired to go talk for the rest of your life in your family, your community, your workplace, then all of a sudden we'll turn this massive event into a movement."

Candace agreed completely, emphasizing the importance of maintaining relationships even with people who initially reject conservative ideas. She shared how family members who were initially hostile to her public conservatism eventually came around as they experienced wokeness in their own lives.

"Wokeness is such a disease and it spreads so rapidly that eventually if you just hold on to truth, your friendships and those relationships will come back," she said. "Every single one of those people who were like 'I cannot believe who you are'—it's either crickets now, they have nothing to say, or they've come and said that they're sorry."

She encouraged patience with those not yet ready to hear the truth, quoting her grandfather: "The lie makes its way around the world before the truth gets its shoes on. Eventually the truth does wake up, turn the alarm off, and get shoes on."

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