Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens Challenge Gender Ideology, Big Pharma, and Modern Feminism at Wisconsin Campus Event

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the stage charlie kirk and candace owens [Music] [Music] hey everybody great to be here um candice welcome to wisconsin yes wonderful i haven't done a campus event in so long so i'm very honored and blessed to be here and uh we were we had to make sure because we've been traveling so much we're like room wisconsin right so okay we know what state that we're in um so candace i'm going to ask you the most difficult question that i think someone in power can possibly get american politics something that has befuddled the people at top levels of government what is a woman uh [Laughter] i'm not a biologist how do we get to a place where that that is even like a question that now a supreme court justice can't answer yeah you know it's really interesting to talk about this topic at length because i remember when we first started doing this you and i were traveling around the country four or five years ago and i was really pressing on the transgender movement and i remember conservatives at the time kept saying this is such a small you know this isn't going to matter much why are you focused on this and i said because this is what's going to come around the corner it seems so obvious to me um that that was going to place emphasis on children uh that it was also going to sort of deconstruct it was already a radicalized feminist movement but i saw this moving towards the abolition of women right and it seemed so natural throughout these feminist waves and i was saying from the very beginning i am not a feminist i remember what we went through when the metoo movement started and i said i don't support the metoo movement because this is about the the takedown of men and they really came after us but i i really did see us getting to this point very quickly where now we're talking about just abolishing what it means to be a woman um and it's interesting to consider the intersectionality of all that how people can say that they're they're feminists but they they won't use their platforms to speak out against this and it was something to me especially now you know i'm 11 weeks away from giving birth to my second child and i spoke at length about this today and shooting a documentary of just how significant the roles of the the roles of masculinity and femininity are and both are under attack right now um it's suddenly suddenly bad to be a masculine man they're trying to make men more effeminate but also saying to women that you shouldn't aspire to womanhood right you shouldn't aspire to family there's something wrong with you if you want to be a stay-at-home mom you should want to climb the corporate ladder and in the end it's actually making both sexes miserable and who is benefit benefiting from it government right so when you absolve the family when you absolve what it means to be a man which is something that gives you worth when you absolve what it means to be a woman which is something that ultimately gives you worth what you are left with is an incredibly dependent society that's turning to government and worshiping at the mantle of government right you're talking about kids that are being injected with hormones really young you can't come back from that that's not something that's temporary um so it's it's a funny thing but it's also an incredibly sad thing that we're now in a society where people can't answer a question as basic as what is a woman yeah and so i mean you bring up a point about these waves of feminism right so you say you're not a feminist let's dive deeper into that what does that actually mean because you'd think that the fight for the feminists would be when a bunch of men start pretending to be women like that would be like the line right or when i mean at the very i don't agree with feminist dogma but the one thing i probably do agree with in second wave feminism is that men and women are different and they have different needs wants and concerns like that's basically one of the building blocks of society why is it that so many of the feminists that have been screaming at you and i for the last couple years about you know women's rights or whatever are like you know it's actually okay that a man wins the ncaa championship as a woman because those people are not actually feminists and what you see increasingly with radicalized movements is that they borrow words from the past that actually meant something right like racist if racism used to mean something right now it just means that you disagree with me i don't like you and therefore you're a white supremacist so they're borrowing a word from the past they're trying to stop the event by pulling a fire alarm so wow hopefully we can get that result this is how you know your ideas are a threat to the left because they have to resort to these kind of childish tactics wow never seen that one before we had beyonce music once though i said we once had the beyonce music but we didn't have that yeah we've seen a lot this is yeah i've heard about this but it um it goes to show the petulant narcissism maybe there is a fire the chance of a fire being very low by the way um the a coordinated attack i've heard i've heard many times that they do this across the country but candace let's proceed yeah so what was i just saying we were talking about how the left um is a group of narcissistic children that have never grown up so so so borrowing words from the past right so they take a word that has meaning and and mean something and then they just say we're going to say this words that if you stand against it then there's something wrong with you are they going to make us leave prove there's a fire and then we'll leave the building they do this all the time to try to stop events they don't like prove that people's lives are in danger and will respectfully leave the the building right okay candace continue yeah so it's it's a tactic and it's it's an important one to recognize when it's happening um and it's definitely happening in terms of the modern radicalized women's movement which actually does nothing but make women miserable i mean what they are trying to do is reassign women's goals in life and ultimately teach both sexes to fight against their own biology and let me tell you something no matter what at the end of the day your biology is going to win so it saddens me to see women and now i'm at the age obviously where i'm having children and you see women that bought into the lies of what they thought and perceived to be feminism and they become these bitter angry don't have a family threw everything into you know their careers marching in the streets shrieking because they were sold a bill of lies uh from culture that made them think that men were horrible people and wanting to aspire to family made them not progressive enough and similarly when you see men that are told to to shun their own biology you know there are these shriveled emasculated people that don't have anything of real value because the things that matter most in our society of course our family family your family it should be the start and the finish of every single day it should be ultimately what you aspire to and the role of women in raising up children to be good members of society is so significant it's really the only thing standing between government and complete domination are our mama bears and strong families and so let's kind of build that out it seems like men are becoming women women are becoming men at this rapid pace what what is what is the masculine and the feminine archetype mean what does womanhood mean what does manhood mean why are we not allowed to talk about it anymore i know it seems very strange like we're suddenly pretending that there aren't differences and that we know like you know women to be feminine is is to be beautiful it's to be nurturing and to be a man is is to be strong and i'm not talking like oh i can bench 350. i'm talking about having a a strength to lead a household you know and it's so emblematic of what i saw in the relationship between my grandmother and my grandfather growing up where there were very clearly two identified separate identified roles within that household my grandfather led the house in a respectful manner and women are meant to think oh men lead households means that you're going to be subjugated and make them a sandwich you're going to be barefoot and pregnant which by the way as a pregnant woman i'd love to be barefoot right now i don't know why that's getting a bad rep it really is comfortable it's a great way to be i'd love to be making a sandwich right now barefoot pregnant um but they use these sort of images and make you think that there's something dirty about it and it's the best part of every single of every single day that i have is making it home to my family providing a meal for them having that time sharing stories raising your children so what they've done is they've perverted those things right they've made it seem dirty and wrong men need their men time women need their women time we are a different species the things that when i get around with my girlfriends that i talk about that my husband were like for five seconds be like uh you know and then i hear him talking to his lads as he says he's english and i'm just i just go man men are really dumb you guys just are you know like they they never really grow up they're always boys on the inside and it's sweet and it's amazing and it's wonderful that and us women need to talk about nonsense and these are wonderful things these are wonderful stereotypes stereotypes have meaning and they're real don't let people pervert them in your head to think that there's something wrong with those stereotypes yeah i mean it's just so i think what's happening now candace is we have one coalition of america that lives on team reality you and i where the jersey of team reality and the other the wokies right the people that need to you know pull fire alarms or whatever where to where where two masks when they shower or like whatever right you know believe men can become pregnant like all these people right but i believe that those of us that actually have the humility to believe that we are we have to live to these pesky shackles of reality we're actually happier people because we believe in the laws of nature and nature's god as the declaration beautifully articulates and we're willing to admit that through the thousands of years of recorded history there's some things that we don't believe should change that we need to be anchored to the beauty of antiquity and why is that such a controversial statement why is it that we almost feel as if we're kind of in this non-nonstop conversation that we must have progress for progress sake regardless of the damage it does to people i mean and the damage is real i mean you look around you have the most socially progressive country america's ever been at the moment it's also the saddest most depressed most alcohol addicted most drug addicted most suicidal generation in history is there a correlation to those two things there is so i actually wrote a chapter in my book of a concept that i referred to as over civilization because i didn't know what to to call it but what tends to happen when you when you end up in these times of extreme remarkable privilege is that people create challenges where there are none so there i i believe that there's something natural in the human spirit that wants to continue advancing that wants to believe that they progressed to something right we're the generation that ended you know world war ii we're the generation that you know ended the vietnam war we're the generation that did this act of heroism and heroism and we're so proud of ourselves that's natural in the human spirit we want to achieve we're naturally achievers but when you arrive in a generation we're really kind of you got it right we're civilized we've put an end to slavery put on to racism we put you know an end to women not being allowed to vote um then what does that spirit strive toward and the answer which we're learning every day is stupidity right they start they start fires where there are none right literally i guess tonight starting fires where there are none so they go oh well we must do something so let's defeat bathroom signs and you're like what nobody had an issue man female like you know we get no this is horrible and it's it's leading to people that are gender confused not being able to go to the restroom and you're going what are you doing and when you start striving towards things just for the sake of striving you actually end up backwards right which is how we've ended up in this feminist argument where now women are actually uh being subjugated by men in these circumstances like leah thomas who is a man um yeah uh william thomas i'm happy that you can call yourself whatever you want but you're you're a male and you have women that are being made to compete against a male and that's how you end up it just becomes a cycle of stupidity yeah and it's it's inevitable right so a people that do not believe in a transcendent moral order or believe in family they're going to have to find purpose somewhere right and what better purpose than believing and convincing yourself that you are going to dedicate your life to the destruction of the society around you right and it for a person that is not rooted and or educated in the way of kind of the western canon it could be very compelling and tempting right so why is it so tempting especially for the elites to believe this stuff like candace how do we get to a place where apple comes out with a pregnant man emoji right and netflix comes out with a new special that says he's expecting we wonder why they're down 37 their stock is down beautiful thing to see how i mean how do we get to a place where you know and this is this maybe you can help me why is it smart people right that believe the dumbest stuff like you have to go to college to believe some of this stuff is so stupid you do and people tell me how many degrees they have i know that they're further and further from reality right because they haven't actually done anything practically in their lives but learn stuff and they're very convinced and there's a reason for that by the way and and i know it's ironic saying this on on a college campus but you guys are seeing this in your classrooms and i know that the stuff that there are classrooms now that make you this say what your gender pronouns are that's absolute foolishness that's foolishness right it didn't exist when we were in school you didn't have to do this because we understood what your pronouns were just by looking at you um and yet you're paying a very hefty sum to learn stupid stuff like that right to believe that there can be more and you can be you know a squid on a monday if you want to be in a mermaid on a friday yeah i'm a squid um it's a new one but check out tick tock because there are squids squid gender yeah there's all sorts of things but why not right as soon as you start saying that what you think is true then you can of course you can be an animal one day if you'd like to um but the reason for that is simple and then it really brings you back to marcus ideology so i believe and and i would really have to examine if the college education system does not get a complete and utter makeover i wouldn't send my child and um because what you really understand what they're doing is they're intentionally manufacturing people that are learning actually very little but come out with a tremendous amount of confidence right so you can now enroll and you can you can get a major you can get a degree in queer studies right or you i don't know what that means like you can get a degree in gender studies how did you spend a hundred thousand dollars in four years learning something that i literally learned in kindergarten guys restroom girls restroom right but imagine that individual imagine that individual that in their mind has done everything right they went through the school system they applied to school they got into a university they spent four years and hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially getting this degree in a certificate that tells them that they are a smart person in society and then they go out into society and they go ha i'm smart i'm applying for jobs and it turns out that nobody needs a gender studies major to do anything for them right when my ac breaks i don't call a gender studies major i don't know anybody that calls just right now if there actually was a fire where we'd be going help somebody get in a gender studies major really somebody please get them quick they're really going to help society so they get on society and they realize they're not needed they're not needed because why would they be needed this is this is stupidity this is a ridiculous degree to have in your hand and what happens to that individual is that they look at the person who graduated high school didn't go to college but maybe went to a trade school and that guy knows how to fix an ac all right well i live in tennessee let me tell you something when the ac breaks i will pay that guy any amount of money a ten thousand that's perfectly normal i i'll sign the check i've got kids at home i'm pregnant i'm barefoot in the kitchen making a sandwich gotta have the ac working right and so that guy imagine the college person who spent all this money and is seeing that that guy is making more money than him well that gender disguise gender study major becomes a bitter angry person he needs somebody to be angry at right and he's not going to be him himself he's not going to look search internally and recognize that he was sold a lie so instead he starts blaming the system he becomes a perfect perfect little marxist warrior and then when somebody says to him oh it's because the white man oh it's because of the the tall man oh it's because of the rich man he easily falls into that ideology and he becomes that idiot student that's marching in the streets demanding justice when in reality you should be demanding a refund from the professors that have lied to you for the last four years so speaking of speaking of insidious movements that have lied to people i saw a lot of black lives matter flags driving on the way here um blm otherwise known as the real estate real estate empire of the world yeah the real estate hedge fund empire of patrice cullers um so candace tell us why i mean that for whatever reason they're able are they able to get away with it i mean they raise 90 million dollars and go buy mansions in canada and la for black creator space what's going on here we don't know what's going on but i will say this is that i exercised absolutely no humility and saying that i was right and um i just i just do not care not on a booboo i spent years being called a race trader for pointing out what was so plainly obvious which was that you had a bunch of kids marching in the street wearing black lives matter t-shirts raising money you were guys were perfect little billboards for a company you didn't know who was running it you had no idea where the money was going you just started screaming because it was the fun thing to do i guess at the time right like screaming and shrieking and demanding justice and nobody looked into the finances or the corporate structure and there were such obvious holes and anytime a movement takes takes fire like that um just ahead of an election cycle you better know that some money laundering is going on it's the timing of these black lives matter riots is impeccable every time before an election suddenly people are shrinking in the streets and they have their story a perfect you know a perfect victim um and this is what happened this is why it needs to matter and we're talking about this movement raised billions of dollars worldwide and nobody not a single building not a single uh black lives matter a corporate office at least where i can see that they're hiring black students instead they burned down black neighborhoods have you seen the neighborhoods that hosted the riots they burned down police precincts they can't get police to police to streets anymore we have autonomous zones criminality has never been higher in these inner cities you destroyed black lives because it felt good to march in the street and say black lives matter um you know and i just kept saying to people it's it's i i do not betray my race i betray stupidity all the time and stupidity comes in many different colors the and it all kind of happened you know during floyd palooza and kind of post all of that right and how did how did the smart people again get it so wrong well it turns out that the smart people are not that smart and by the way i'm this is not a left or right issue because the capitulation happened on both sides on the left it's like yay you know changing your black lives matter t-shirt for the you know it's it's every the movement is every five weeks you got to keep up with it and you know save us dr fauci we love you dr george floyd whatever it is it's just the new thing right that they can be shrieking about because they're fundamentally unhappy but on the right what you saw was people that didn't have the courage to speak out about it because race still makes people uncomfortable right and and that it makes people uncomfortable for what i just said right because they're borrowing these words that actually have an entirely different meaning so it became this threat this you know political bullet to your head you either support black lives matter or you're a racist no no no it doesn't work like that there's a lot of gray area there's a lot of nuance i don't know much about black lives matter and you see this over and over and over again right you either declare yourself to be a feminist or you don't want equal rights between men and women no feminism has come to mean something else you're seeing it right now you either put up a ukrainian flag in your yard right or you're a putin puppet where you can know nuance you can't discuss zilenski you can't discuss you know his ties to barisma um and it i see this over and over again i can't stand it and like it makes me angry that the cowardice does also exist on the right it is where the right just goes oh we have to just say this it's just to make people happy and the second that you catch yourself making statements like i'm not a racist but i'd like to talk about black lives matter you're you're already playing their game you have a right to discuss issues um deeper than the surface level you have a right to think critically you have a right to perhaps see that there are multiple chess pieces on the board and i think that we need to do a better job of not being afraid of being called a name on the right because it's happening way too often so the last thing candace i want to talk to you about is something you did a phenomenal documentary on parlor um and you and i both agree and a lot of eyes have been opened to this that one of the great threats to liberty and humanity is the stranglehold that big pharma has over our livelihood and the decisions that we can and cannot make i mean mandatory vaccines to all of this it's from the moment you're born you're kind of in this biomedical pharma fascist state expand on that talk about your documentary and talk about how this actually transcends political issues because some of the greatest apologists for corporate pharmaceutical dominance are actually on the right yeah well the you know we have more people big pharma lobbyists in dc than we have representatives in congress it's a huge problem these people are bought and paid for and big pharma is incredibly wealthy and you are living in a time where if you thought pablo escobar and el chapo were big you need to look around your own country because you have the biggest drug cartel that has ever operated on the face of the planet happening right here in america everything that el chapo and pablo escobar aspired to linking arms with government officials running elections big pharma is doing right here in america and it's been going on for a very long time um it's right i have uh put out a free podcast series for moms and it's something that all women and men should be educated on understanding the history of vaccines and i think now people are suddenly more ready to have that conversation because they saw the corruption up front with covid they saw the way that people were forced and what what osha tried to do what the cdc has been trying to do to force people to put a substance in their body even even if it flies in the face of scientific data you know you can be at zero risk and they are they're already running tests on infants um you know my story was obviously i was just like you guys to go to school you had to get certain vaccines but to make it clear when we had to get vaccines um from a time that we were zero until 18 i think i had to get maybe 12 today kids have to get 70 plus 70 about 75 vaccines so and let me tell you the kids are not healthier today than they were when i was growing up they're sicker than they've ever been everyone's got an allergy and autoimmune disorder i can't i've gluten i'm allergic to peanuts that's another phenomenon like when i was growing up there was like one kid in class and now it's everybody's got all of these allergies um fortunately and i do say this fortunately because god works in mysterious ways um i was injured by the gardasil vaccine when i was 20 and i had to get that vaccine um i came back from college and i got the vaccine and i had a seizure in the office i'd never had a seizure in my life and when i kind of woke up from that episode and the doctor said well you shouldn't complete this and i began researching just that vaccine i was very horrified at what i found um which was just first and foremost cervical cancer raised which back then they said it was ju it was just for women it was going to help you not hpv could lead to cervical cancer and this was a prophylactic for that they've now expanded it and now somehow men have to get it too i don't even know how we got there um but it it made me realize how corrupt and how the data was you know how was completely lied to how they used a fear campaign regarding cancer to force me into making a decision that i didn't really fully understand when i became a mom i made it my job and this is why i talk about feminism needing the idea of modern feminism meaning to die because it should be our job women should be the cia the fbi and the dhs when it comes to our children the buck should stop with mom i just began researching vaccines in general and uh was horrified at what i found and just wanted to share it and show people the fda in search the warnings on there everything that you're seeing kids have it's right on the fda website will tell you that these are potential reactions that can happen if you get these vaccines i am not ever telling people what to do with their lives or what not to do with their lives but i believe that you cannot make a sound decision unless you were actually given the real information and that's what it's all about allowing people to make informed decisions um so yeah it's been a passion of mine to talk about these vaccines and the time is definitively opportune in the midst of the covet crazies yeah and i think that's an unintended benefit i should say and you said it perfectly it's like the seat of the equivalent benefit right so i i mean you see these videos of them announcing the repealing of the masked mandate i mean it's like a 90 10 issue right i mean people are finally happy now the fact that you have to be happy to get your basic rights to breathe freely back that's very perverted honestly right i wouldn't celebrate it because of that we have to stop cheering when we get our basics yeah so it's like you get back to where you were it's like okay not so fast right it's like you get your natural rights back but i think it has opened people's eyes to at least challenge these power structures right and it's the same thing by the way going back to the either or scenario so you if i say that the guard is so i think the gardasil vaccine is bad people would say you're anti-vaxx again it's that either it's so bifurcated it's it's not that binary you can say i have questions about vaccines without being anti-vaxxed people who have been vacs their entire lives didn't want to get the covid vaccine were suddenly called anti-vaxx right you can say i don't agree with cobit policy and they're calling you a grandpa killer you want grandpa to be dead if you don't agree with lockdowns so you constantly have a society that's afraid to think outside of the box or else they're going to be branded with a scarlet letter and i'm happy to wear all the scarlet letters when it comes to making decisions for myself and for my right to be free and i just want to i want to say this before we get to some questions you know how rare it is for someone with candace's platform to actually talk about these issues one after the other you see the corporate media they want people like candace just to say the same thing over and over again right dr fauci you know you know may his you know sainthood forever be a blessing or whatever you're supposed to say right you know george floyd thank you you know for what you've done for us or whatever right zolensky is the new church or whatever ridiculous thing that they're trying to say right which is what they're saying right instead candace is like you know what no i have this platform and i'm gonna say things that are true and i don't care what you say back to me and you don't see that at all actually in fact that sort of courage is very very rare in america and it deserves to be applauded truly it's uh it's really special so all right let's get to some questions here um and we're gonna form a line so we're gonna start to kind of do single file there uh raise your hand please for uh thank you you guys can just start doing a line right there for those you that want to ask questions so don't raise your question no go into the line that's okay go into the line if you have a question um so this is a majority conservative center right audience right um so here's some ground rules uh if someone asks a question that you find to be reprehensible or disagree with don't shout them down don't interrupt them let them get the question out take some courage to come to a place that's mostly conservative and ask a question we are going to show the left uh courtesy and respect even though they don't show us that same courtesy and respect when we speak okay so we're gonna we're gonna live out that here at this event and if you disagree you guys can come uh to the front of the line but let's start right here um this question is kind of for both of you but like individually um what has been the most rewarding outcome after any of your speeches have you seen any change it's a good question first yeah i mean the most rewarding things i hear from our podcast our radio show and our speaking is two things people that say you totally change my mind on a topic or issue a perspective the most rewarding thing is where people say they gave their life to christ because of what we're doing that's the most important thing right um but going down going downstream from that just the conversion is just it's i'm such a big believer in conversions um those of us in the west you should never lose that optimism that people can be converted and especially as we reflect in some of the great stories of the bible of people that believed one thing and then they believe something totally different we should never lose that sort of optimism that people can change their mind but the second thing that i love that i hear at events are people that were afraid to speak out they agreed and now they're speaking out because of what they hear that's uh that's almost equally rewarding and it's close it's not as morally important but you can make an argument it's in the same ballpark because if good people agree with you and they don't repeat what they hear that they know is true then the event just dies after we're done right but if some of you are now inspired because of what you hear to go talk for the rest of your life and your family or your community or your workplace then all of a sudden we'll turn this massive event into a movement that could change milwaukee for the better in wisconsin for the better and so when i hear that that really gives me a great deal of satisfaction i totally agree with that i think that's a great answer i second that check okay thank you thank you so much [Applause] hello charlie hello cadence i'm an eagle scout in between the joining the boy scouts and within the past five years i've seen the program change a lot um how do you think uh initiated me as a man and i know several other people in the audience too how do you think the programs programs like the bsa girl scouts and other youth programs will shape the future of america so i'm an eagle scout um so i could talk from some authority on this um the boy scouts of america started as a wonderful institution that helped develop generals that fought in world war ii presidents statesmen entrepreneurs and business people my life was very impacted favorably from the boy scouts i went up to camp napoleon actually in wild rose wisconsin growing up they actually just closed it the boy scouts of america is a moral disgrace now and the boy scouts of america should be i hope they go bankrupt i hope they fold um i from every single front you might say why they let girls into the boy scouts which is complete first of all just on its face is like the dumbest thing you could possibly imagine right um but it's also morally wrong and there's here's why and candace touched on this earlier boys being around boys and men being around men is important for development of individuals especially for teenagers as soon and every clinical study will show this you have boys amongst one another trying to get stronger or complete an obstacle course the minute you put one girl within the zip code of that all their behavior changes it changes instead of notes it's true instead of trying to create teams or lift one another they're all now trying to impress the girl and then they react to the embarrassment the failure of how the girl reacts to them doing the obstacle course or whatever the boy scouts has lost all validity not to mention they're covering up the sex abuse stuff which is just awful um that's bad but unfortunately that's um very widespread in our institutions in our country so that needs to be called about so what's the future of the boy scouts and the girl scouts um there's now competitors against boy scouts i can't remember the name of it um trail life i think is what it's called and they're growing um i don't know if you're a boy scout or an eagle scout or not i didn't catch that i am yeah i mean let's go you're an eagle scout great um so look you got through it i tell parents take your kids out of the boy scouts immediately and totally i hope they go bankrupt and they're run by corporate hacks that don't know basic biology or actually how to raise good men anymore and that's a bad thing for america [Applause] charlie and candace thank you for coming my name is kj ike said i'm 28 so i feel like i can relate to a lot of what you do um my question i wanted to ask you is someone who builds brands for a living and helps other people build their brands i want to ask you about elon musk who is the most powerful brand in the world and also what advice would you give to people for building a brand in the face of controversy and adversity uh okay i'm going to start with the elon musk's question i think what he is doing is fantastic and there's no way to lose and what i mean by that is that obviously twitter is going the twitter is actually going to block this obviously um but it doesn't matter because it's leading to a global awakening about just how corrupt the system is um and so i think this has been one of those those moments of sunshine which has provided like a disinfectant and people are really seeing just how corrupt this i mean there's no reason not to accept that deal i mean twitter as a company has been floundering i mean they have not earned any money for their shareholders they won't even bring it to them because it has become such an ideological battleground right we know that if he ever got into that company into the weeds of it we would see that i mean saudi arabia like suddenly the left is supporting some i guess i know like so we're saying like just speaking out and saying i'm against this and i've said this for years i mean twitter has been operating bot accounts they've been creating faux trends things that are not possibly trending they make trend i think they have an allegiance with certain publications as well the daily beast somehow has a way to make their stories trend um and there's a lot of political corruption i think they they put a ton of fake followers around people that they want like i believe aoc they created overnight i really do believe that and so they will not will release twitter because it would it would honestly uh provide a window into just how corrupt the system is but what elon musk is doing is is absolutely brilliant um and yeah it's not going to go through obviously and i think eventually he'll just pull out all of his money and that'll be that and he made tons of money and it's great and america will be better for have seen seeing it all up like america will have been better just for having an opportunity to see just how dysfunctional it is and just how corrupt and how we really don't live um in the economy in the world that we believe that we do i'll answer the brand any thoughts on the brand no you can go you can answer that so just on the twitter thing super quick this is where i disagree with some people on the right that are market fundamentalists i love markets candiceless markets but the twitter example shows that the profit motive is actually not the highest on the hierarchy it isn't and we've always believed that the profit motive drives all human behavior and it's wrong if that was true they would accept the elon musk deal and the deal would be done there are things that matter more than the profit motive and that's the prestige and the power motive which actually matters a lot more than the profit motive when you talk about human psychology so the twitter board of directors they're not running a company they're running something closer to like a democrat super pac regime propaganda censorship machine that yes well said thank you that exists to stifle the voices they don't like and elevate the ones they like and so it just goes in to show how hard they're fighting like yeah saudi prince comes out really how's freedom of speech in riyadh in the spring i'd love to hear about that i was press freedom in medina like can you say something against muhammad during ramadan and saudi arabia of course not like it's the greatest hypocrisy ever that a saudi prince tries to come and be like yes i'm going to stand for free speech like how about you sit this one out like the one issue the saudis should sit out is like how they treat journalists like not exactly a lot of credibility in the last couple decades on that issue like maybe oil exploration you guys can you know chime in next time so but it shows a window into how important censorship is to these people that they need the ability to shut us up i'm suspended from twitter right now first i didn't do anything wrong um and i love how people applaud right and i i i called rachel levine that one i said richard levine uh rachel i can't regret now rachel used to be richard it's called dead naming you can't do that i refuse to delete the tweet i refuse to engage in a soviet show trial where like you have to acknowledge doing something wrong even though you didn't candice is exactly right though i don't think the deal is going to go through i don't want to be cynical but i think they have unintentionally red-pilled the world rich world's richest man which might about be the dumbest thing you could possibly do where now like center-right non-woke causes are going to have a 300 billion dollar man and the owner of spacex tesla the boring company neurolink and someone who's like the greatest engineering mind in a hundred years being dedicated to abolish the woke left like good job twitter your move next like thank you sorry i'm the brand thing uh i don't want to spend too much time on it um lean into the controversy that's my advice i know that's short controversy can be the greatest signal boost to any brand if you play it right thank you thank you thank you uh hello charlie and candace my name is brian in light of the holiday i wanted to ask would america be a freer country if weed was legalized oh i was like what holiday is it sorry guys um but i'm sorry would america be a freer country if weed was legalized nope it would not be and it would not at all be and here's what i'm going to say and i just spoke about this for such a long time people kept saying the slippery slope wasn't real right like oh if we legalize pot we'll just be a freer country i know a more relaxed country whatever they thought it was going to be but it's not like we're just we're just gonna slide into suddenly legalizing methamphetamine oh well we did that pretty quickly after after legalizing uh marijuana in certain states right so now we have the argument that we're fighting is like forget marijuana we now have places in new york city where you can go shoot up and the government will give you a needle and a syringe to be able to do that you now have i think uh organs leading the charge on that they've legalized they've decriminalized every drug yeah they have injection sites and they do criminalize every single drug so i don't i am a person that does not believe that it would render people freer i don't i don't believe that at all if we're discussing the tenants of whether or not you believe harm like you know marijuana is more harmful than of a substance in alcohol i would probably say no and alcohol has been detrimental to people and and has killed more people and things of that nature um but when we're talking about whether or not either is good for society as a whole i absolutely not i i i actually stand really um on the opposite side of that issue because of what we are seeing to say with all the things that the left is trying to do with every single drug like every single drug and it started with marijuana is just going to be we're just going to decriminalize marijuana we're just going to legalize marijuana and that's going to be it's never going to be it yeah i think you asked a really important question use this specific word you said would it be free or it depends what your definition of freer is do you have a proper definition of freedom or do you have kind of this classical liberal social degeneracy view of freedom right so it's freedom meaning you could have public nudity and defecate on the streets i think that makes everyone less free and less happy right so freedom is the pursuit of virtue right freedom is getting in alignment with natural law and going towards a desirable outcome so you can live in harmony with god's commands freedom is not being able to just go to an injection site and having pleasure at will in fact i think that makes people less free and everyone believes in a slave to their pleasures totally i mean if you meet an alcoholic they're the least free people in the world yeah an alcoholic is the least free person in the world i am the most free in my sobriety i really am same and i don't know i can't remember last time i had a drink and i mean people say are you gonna ban alcohol i'm like no no but i think america would be better like there's no doubt if we had less people drinking alcohol america would be a better place like no doubt no one wants to say it out loud especially in milwaukee wisconsin no one has to say that and it is it's funny because i was even talking about you you become you really do become a slave um to your pleasure and it's funny because i was just talking about today with with my assistant who's backstage i said how much money would you have in your bank account if you never drink alcohol when i think about that i want to cry i want to cry because when i was in college it was thursday friday saturday bar tuesday bar like i mean just any day bar i was you know pledging a sorority um and so i don't say that from a place of like arrogance or popeye i'm not like oh you know i mean like i'm so good because i don't drink now but it's interesting to think that if i had practiced that temperance and i said actually i'm not going to drink it scares me i look at the size of the houses when i'm like i could have owned that house i would have been a millionaire by the time i was 25. um so i'm just not i'm not one of those people that stands on stage and it's like drink and smoke more you know i get being young i get you know the experimentation that comes with being young and i don't judge it at all because trust me this girl took the most liberal route to conservatism that you will ever find uh but no it doesn't i don't think it renders you for your freedom is about temperance freedom is about control and you realize that as you get older so um i'll just close with this go to the next question candace is exactly right good lesson for life you can live it the hard way learn it the hard way or learn it the easy way and just listen to us pleasure comes with a price and the sooner you realize that the so you realize anything that quickly rushes serotonin and dopamine from an external influence whether it be pornography marijuana methamphetamines psychedelics um or alcohol comes with a price now you might be willing to pay that price but be careful because what we know from neurology is our bodies are so amazing and you start to build tolerance to that price and then all of a sudden the downside is a lot worse on the upside and we're living in a country with a hundred thousand plus drug overdoses every single year and we also live in the most medicated thanks to pharma the most drug addicted thanks to the other issues and the most sad depressive suicidal generation in history thanks for being here tonight i appreciate it thank you thank you thank you and if you guys anyone disagrees you guys can chime in the the turning point people can help navigate you through that yes okay oh thanks hi candace hi charlie my name is greta i am a small business owner in marquette michigan i drove five hours to be here oh wow that's awesome the small issue is that i i run my business in a primarily liberal city and i am wondering your advice on how i exist as a small business owner in a liberal area and still discuss um i guess so i have a a platform on instagram can i open up that instagram to you know discuss ideas and i i guess my question is how do i exist as a small business owner with conservative ideals in a more in a liberal space um what is your business out of curiosity i run a pop-up shop um it's only open three days a month and we sell women's clothing and home decor oh yeah i mean i think you just do what you're what you're doing you see if your product is good it's great one thing i would recommend that you do is pick up and move your business to a conservative leaning because and i'm not saying that because i'm like rah-rah conservatives it's because you will start to realize that when you're in liberal districts they create government policies um that are meant to punish and penalize people um for being successful you're seeing california being the states that has been exemplary to exactly that if you're a good person that follows the law you start a business they are going to tax you into oblivion and transfer those tax dollars to support the criminals on the street that are defecating um and need to shoot up and and it's like i said there couldn't be a more clear example than looking at what has really happened in cities like new york city in california and chicago um so i always say that if you're an entrepreneur put yourself into a into a position where you're surrounded by politicians that support entrepreneurship or they will actually award people that are doing good things in their community as opposed to penalizing them because eventually and if you're in a super liberal area their guns turn towards you because they hate success right there's something wrong with you getting ahead look at you you're young you're beautiful you're white god forbid right you know um and and so i especially seeing that in the example of of california how they just suddenly demonized the entrepreneur i made it seem as if well you make this much money you should pay more in taxes it's the reason why i picked up and i move to tennessee and i run my businesses from the south i agree thank you for being here thank you hello hello candace and charlie um huge fans here my name is simone i'm 28 years old i actually graduated from uwm about five years ago when i was a hardcore liberal obviously i'm here today completely switched over have much more conservative values because i'm a christian faith comes first and then just getting into the real world you just are open to a lot of things my question for you is just more so some advice when your family and friends have totally different viewpoints than you are not even really opening to hearing your viewpoints like how do you deal with that uh make new friends because that's optional uh seriously it's just it's not life is too short you know and i'm not saying that your job shouldn't be people are sometimes just not ready to hear information and um i've realized that even with family members that's a little more permanent right you're having family members that disagree with you you wouldn't even i even told you the stories of what i went through coming out as a conservative on a public stage um when my family was so tied and boggled down and the majority of my family was liberal at that time things have changed they just weren't ready to hear the message but then eventually the message comes to them in the form of their surroundings right suddenly they're looking around and you know legal immigrants are being dropped off at their at their front desk they're you know trying to enroll into their kids like my sisters into classes and they're dealing with all the woke crap they're dealing with having their small children that are being told they have to vaccinate even though they're pro-backs they're not comfortable with this one thing so wokeness is such a disease and it spreads so rapidly that eventually if you just hold on to truth your friendships and those relationships will come back every single one of those people who were like i cannot believe who you are and i'm saying it's not just my friends and family but the world i mean like i just said the black lives matter narrative i was enemy number one for telling the truth about george floyd and talking about black lives matter well it's either crickets now they have nothing to say or they've come and they've said that they're sorry um and that's the beauty about being on the side of the truth like the lie makes its way around the world before the truth gets its shoes on as my granddad used to say eventually the truth does wake up turn the alarm off and get shoes on and i would just say um when those friends come back accept them the prodigal son applies to us all if people but also dunk be like no humility i was right just kidding just kidding that's the um that's the canvas version of the prodigal son parable i told you boy not to go okay thank you for being here tonight i appreciate [Applause] um it you guys my name is uh nia uh i have a question you mentioned two i think two questions previously um she asked about or you recommended moving her conservative business to a conservative area would you um recommend that for um more liberal businesses to be doing that well like to and would you also recommend that for um not necessarily businesses but just people in general to be moving out of the communities they disagree with and into their surrounding by people who they agree with and vice versa oh i don't think the business itself is conservative or liberal when i say that so i don't i don't think that you could have like if you make clothes and they're good you make clothes and they're good that's the but the free market will determine that right so um what i mean is that if you are an entrepreneur you have to start thinking about the policies that are in place where you live and yes i'm a big believer that you have to think about the values of where you live as well so like and for every regard whether it's business whether it's family i mean this has become such a huge discussion when you have kids right well what what kind of public school system where are you living what kind of public schools are going to send them to a school that believes that their child can pick their gender and their pronouns or you're going to send them to a christian school it becomes common sense that you want to live in an area that reflects your values and that rewards the behavior that you see as acceptable um so i think that that's that's sort of a natural thing that people should strive toward and i'm being serious when i say that you now have areas that are like i can't imagine opening a business in los angeles i don't understand people that still live there you are just being penalized you're being successful when you look at the tax rates and it's interesting that the young lady that came before you just said you know i was a liberal until i got into the real world that's exactly what i'm talking about because when you get into the real world you start to realize the way that you're taxed in certain areas um it's punitive to successful people so yes i would recommend it whether it was what your leanings are doesn't matter right if you're if you want to work for the sake of all of your tax dollars going to support you know criminals on the street criminal whatever reforms they say that they're doing then yeah you can stay where you want to but you're not going to earn any money and eventually you're going to wake up and you're going to say actually i'm a little more con fiscally conservative as people like to say um and you you people tend to just migrate towards places that are advantageous to those perspectives and i'll answer the second part of your question um i'm torn on it i grew up in illinois it's where it's my home but i left but illinois really left me if i'm honest um and i i do believe that people should start to live around people that share your values i don't think it's healthy when you have to be ruled under lori lightfoot or jb pritzker when there's other options in the same country i just i don't and look wisconsin is a completely different it's completely different i think wisconsin is a much more conservative state than it's currently currently being reflected politically and it showed that in a lot of different ways so wisconsin's different i love wisconsin it's one of my favorite places in the world um i mean and great people but look i i left i went to arizona candace went to tennessee i want to start a family i got married i want to live around people that can tell me what a woman is i want to live around people that believe that they're you know life begins at some form of point and doesn't believe in post birth abortion like i don't want to be worried that my guns are going to be confiscated or that the kids in our community are going to be taught about lesbian sex when they're four years old like that's not a state i want to live in and for me that was a breaking point not to mention the financial pressure of living living in illinois so and by the way that happened that idea of uh putting yourself in a social environment that matches your own that's that's a part of humanity that's a part of that's not not even humanity that's animal instinct find your tribe is what we're saying right um and people do that whether you're first day of kindergarten you're making your friends you're finding people that you have things in common with uh then when it becomes you know you become an adult and you're out in the world it's the exact same thing it's totally natural thank you all right thank you thank you i can't i can't answer the question on your shirt i'm not a biologist next the shirt says what is a woman [Laughter] thanks to matt walsh but um anyways thank you guys for coming out um it's gotta be very annoying to talk about the same things that you do all the time so thank you guys so much for coming here it's not annoying at all it's always a privilege awesome um my question is um i know candace you touched on it just a little bit but um what would you do what's the alternative to big pharma that's not something i am an expert on i don't really follow that very often um that's something i'm just now learning about just this past year so what's the alternative to big pharma the alternative yeah like a free market solution like i mean when we're talking about big pharma you have the same manufacturers of every vaccine they put in all of these restrictions so nobody even with in terms of medicine i mean what trump passed in terms of the right to try they won't allow anybody to even create medicines to create alternatives uh they make everybody who says like hey this is in your cabinet you can use this to treat this you're a quack doctor um another alternative is just learning uh about the things that our grandparents knew you know that you could that not everything requires a pill honestly um and a lot of the the reason why they put out these pills is to make you a lifelong customer of big pharma i am so against like i mean and when i say against medicine i mean like unless i actually need to take a pill like really need to take a pill i'm willing to just be sick for a few days and let my body naturally fight it and we've become an a society that doesn't do that anymore and it's it's literally what created the the opioid epidemic that we're facing right now in this country is that we have there's a pill for everything in america and it is unique to america by the way in europe it is not like this the amount of kids that i see that are on anxiety pills depression pills uh ada adhd pills i mean these are yeah yeah benzos all of these pills that are supposed to make them feel happy are supposed to make them feel sad or supposed to help them focus it's not natural and they know it's not natural and in the long run of course it's detrimental to your health i mean even talking about birth control pills this is a conversation for another day that i cannot wait to have with women talk about being told from the second we're enrolled in school fight your fertility um and the long-term effects of that which have never been explored and which i think we're seeing today when we have so many women needing to turn to ivf um to have one child um and just the lack of education because we assign we have of course rightfully so we just trust doctors i just trusted the doctor that gave me the gardasil shot right trusted the doctor because why wouldn't i he's a doctor and that system was built for exactly that reason to make you believe that the doctor is smarter than you the professor is smarter than you trust everybody but your own gut instincts so i think one solution is for us to realize that we have to be our own biggest advocates that we have to be able to do the research that we have to think about these things critically because somebody tells you that this pill is fine and you can take it every day does not mean this pill is fine you can take it every day um i i'm a big believer in in just using more natural things i i mean i i take all sorts of things that are in my cabinet um before i'll turn to like big pharma i mean like my granddaddy's doing like the aloe vera plant he was a real old school we had a cut or a burn they use it all by the way in big pharma but they package it and put a bunch of other chemicals in it and hand it to you and it works um so uh yeah i mean there's there's so many solutions we need to have a bigger conversation about what's in our food that's also big pharma by the way um talking about the chemicals that are also in our food yeah and so it's a much bigger discussion and i believe that it starts in the household and not being scared to have discussion like get the scarlet letter let them call you anti this quack doctor all of this stuff uh just know that big pharma does not have your best interests at heart they know that these pills are harmful they quietly pull things off the market all the time that create addiction you know and it's sad that we see the drug dealers of course go to prison but big pharma execs never go to prison for the addictions that they create and the people are turning to the streets because big pharma execs got them addicted