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Charlie Kirk Reveals Why Modern Dating Is Failing and What Men and Women Need to Change Now
Charlie Kirk breaks down what he sees as the core problems plaguing modern dating for both men and women. From unrealistic expectations and dating app culture to the lost art of purity and self-control, Kirk doesn't hold back on what he believes needs to change. He addresses why women should prioritize finding a husband before 25, why men must demonstrate self-control above all else, and why the man should always pay on dates. Kirk also shares practical advice for dating with intent to marry, including the importance of road trips together, premarital counseling questions most couples never ask, and why liking your partner matters just as much as loving them.
The Crisis in Modern Dating
Modern dating has become a source of frustration for both men and women. At a women's summit, when asked how many were unhappy with the dating pool, every woman raised her hand. Interestingly, all the young men Kirk speaks with express the same dissatisfaction with women. This raises an important question: if both sides are unhappy, who's actually wrong?
The biggest problem with modern dating comes down to an options issue. When people can go online and start swiping again instead of working through challenges with someone, the commitment necessary for lasting relationships disappears. Rather than investing in one person and working through difficulties, people simply move on to the next option.
What Women Get Wrong
Many women have developed unrealistic expectations about the men they want. Too often, women say they want a guy earning a million dollars a year who's 6'4" with a perfect jaw. These superficial criteria completely miss what actually matters in a life partner.
What's truly concerning is where character and virtue fall on these lists of requirements. When asked about wanting someone who will be a good father or someone with good character, many women respond as if these are afterthoughts. They say they want loyalty and faithfulness too, but these qualities don't lead the list. Essentially, they want the Ken doll with all the good virtues thrown in as a bonus, rather than prioritizing virtue from the start.
Women need to be told more clearly that if they don't have children before age 30, there's only a 50% chance they will have children at all. The statistics on happiness are striking: the most depressed people in America are women without children, particularly young single women in their early 30s. Meanwhile, the happiest women in America are married women with children.
Society has gotten this wrong. Women should prioritize family and children way above career. They should try to find their husband before they're 25. Having children is a blessing that should be pursued and celebrated. Young women should try to have as many children as they can, which is far more important than traveling to Thailand, having a big apartment, or collecting cats.
Young women need to be very clear about what they're expecting in a man and date with the intent to marry, not just to have a good time. Both men and women need to work on this, but young women especially need to do a much better job of saving themselves for marriage. They need to prioritize purity again. If young women make this a priority, young men will follow.
What Makes Men Attractive
The most attractive quality in a young man that young women can't always articulate is self-control. A woman needs to know that a man can control his impulses when things get really crazy. When on a date, can he control his mouth, his tongue, his eyes? Will he cheat? Will he have a wandering eye? Will he get drunk every night?
Women can't always put this into words, but self-control differentiates a boy from a man. A boy is someone who has no control over himself. Confidence and ambition matter too, and these qualities require self-control as the foundation. To be ambitious and have a north star, a man must be able to control his flesh.
Men face very different problems and temptations than women. Men struggle with controlling their flesh, which is why adultery is literally in the Ten Commandments. An entire people had to be commanded not to cheat on their wives because if it were easy, God wouldn't have needed to command it.
When men are dating and want to make themselves more attractive to women, demonstrating self-control is essential. Women also want to be taken care of. Deep down, they want a man to be able to provide for them.
The Controversy Over Who Pays
A man should pay on the first date, 100%. The idea of a man splitting the check is completely unacceptable. A man should go into debt and scrub dishes before letting a woman pay for a date when talking about serious dating at age 24 or older.
From a perspective of honor, the money saved by splitting a check is not worth the honor compromised. There is an order of virtues, and above frugality is honor. Men must lead and provide. Under no circumstance should a man ever let a woman pay for a date.
Some might argue that if a relationship becomes serious and the woman wants to treat the man to a nice dinner, that's different. If there's intent to marry and finances are already blending, the psychology changes. But the idea of taking turns or alternating who pays is completely wrong.
This isn't about feminism or egalitarianism. Women should want to be provided for. Women should have an expectation that they are so important, critical, necessary, and beautiful that it shouldn't even be a question on a date. When dating, it would be a huge turnoff if a woman reaches for the check.
The ideal is to want a woman who wants to be led by a man, not a woman who's going to compete financially in a marriage or question financial decisions. The man is the leader of the household and should be the primary provider. There are exceptions, but this worked for thousands of years and should work again. What society is doing right now is simply not working.
If a woman were to pull out a credit card to pay for something on a date, it sends the wrong signal. It suggests she's one of those "boss babes" rather than someone who wants traditional roles. When a woman reaches for the check, what she's really showing is that she's trying to alleviate what she perceives to be a financial burden, but this shouldn't even be a consideration.
Women going into dates should have an expectation that the man takes care of it, and they should show immense gratitude when he does. A woman should say, "Thank you so much for doing that and not having to put this unnecessary pressure on me because you've just freed me." That's what women actually want.
Many women are secretly miserable that they have to be as financially successful as men. Deep down, a lot of women want to be mothers and wives. Society has overcorrected, and many women who deep down want to be moms would love to have their man grab the check and say, "No, I got it." This signals to them that when bullets start firing and chaos erupts, this man is going to protect the family.
The most alpha move is to go to the waiter before the meal and give them the credit card so it's not even a conversation. It's paid and done before it can even be introduced as a topic. From a woman's perspective, this is incredibly attractive.
Dating Advice and Red Flags
Sex should not happen before marriage. This isn't just a religious take but also a rational, reasonable argument. If sex is introduced into dating, there's a dilution of what will be the ultimate physical crescendo of marriage. Bring back purity and saving yourself for marriage.
Couples should go on a road trip together while dating. It's important to find uncomfortable, high-pressure travel situations, not just flying first class to Aruba. Try to be in places of discomfort intentionally with the person you're dating. You'll find out a lot about that person.
If a woman says she wants to be a traditional wife, see if she's actually up to it. Ask her to cook a meal. This isn't just about whether she's a good cook, but whether she enjoys it. Ask her, "Did you enjoy doing that? Did you love getting the ingredients, looking at the cookbook, thinking about the recipe, thinking about me while cooking the food?" If she responds positively, that's a great sign. If it was a disaster and she hated it, there might be issues ahead.
This doesn't mean every wife has to cook every meal for her husband, but many women out there actually want to do that. They want to provide for their man in that way, run the house, and shepherd the kids.
Critical Premarital Questions
Premarital counseling is essential. Several questions need to be answered before marriage that most people never address.
Money is the number one issue. Who will handle the finances? Another critical question people overlook: Are you going to have an open or closed house? Were you raised in a house where lots of friends came over all the time, or were you raised in a house where almost no friends came over? This matters enormously. If someone raised in an open house marries someone from a closed house and they never discuss this, it can destroy the marriage. One person constantly wants people over while the other needs quiet evenings.
Make sure you really like each other, not just love each other. "Like" is a unique word in the English language. Can you talk to that person for seven hours uninterrupted on a park bench if needed, or is it just kind of an annoyance and purely physical?
In-laws matter. They really do. While they shouldn't always be deal breakers, you should know the in-laws because your wife will often take the form of her mother. You should at least get along with and understand your future in-laws.
Children questions must be addressed: How many children? When will you have children? Is it a priority? Will it be early or late? Religious questions matter too. Will you raise children religiously or secularly?
Vacation expectations should be discussed. How many vacations will you take? What type? Are you an RV family or a private island family? Will you splurge on one vacation a year or take three or four?
The biggest question of all: What are acceptable and unacceptable vices for your marriage? Is it acceptable for the husband to smoke a cigar? Will marijuana be allowed in the marriage? Is it okay for alcohol to be around? If yes, how often? Will you drink on weeknights? Are more than one drink acceptable? Will you drink socially? Will you drink once you have kids? Will you drink around the kids?
Entertainment questions matter too. Will you watch TV at night? Will you be okay if there's R-rated sexual nudity that your partner is watching, or is that completely off limits? These are questions that couples constantly fail to address before marriage.
Making Marriage Work
An amazing marriage requires actually liking each other. Obviously no marriage is perfect, but couples should prioritize each other and make time for regular date nights. Too often, people in dating don't date with the intent to marry, and when they do want to marry, they don't ask the tough questions before getting married.
The keys are clear: date with purpose, ask the hard questions, prioritize virtue and character over superficial qualities, embrace traditional roles, and build a foundation of mutual respect, self-control, and shared values before making a lifelong commitment.
Video Transcript
The problem with women is that many of
them a have unrealistic expectations of
the man that they want. A lot of them. I
want a guy that's earning a million
dollars a year and he's 6'4 and I want
him to have a, you know, a perfect jaw
and I'm like, "Yeah, that's never going
to happen." Like, why don't you want
someone that's going to be loyal to you,
not cheat on you? Like, oh yeah, I want
that, too. Oh, okay. Got it. What do you
think is the biggest issue with modern
dating as a single guy? I would love
some advice. You know, Graham, he got
married a year or so ago.
>> Congratulations.
>> So, he's looking to start a family.
>> Have as many kids as you can afford.
>> Now, have more. Have Have more than you
can afford. That's what I should say.
>> I'll stick with
>> What is What is wrong with modern
dating?
>> Yeah.
>> The biggest problem with modern dating
is very interesting. We had a women's
summit. The young ladies all raised
their hands. They're like, "How many of
you are unhappy with the dating pool?"
Every woman raises their hand. Funny.
All the young men I talked to are
unhappy with you, too. So, who's wrong?
Those seem like kind of select groups of
people though, you know, like if you're
asking women that are attending a
woman's summit, they might be in a very
specific
>> Yeah. I mean, like I would say generally
I hear more complaints about the dating
pool then, you know, like wow, there's
so many options. Maybe you're right. I
don't know. Maybe.
>> I think it's a it's more of an options
issue is that you could go online and
just if you if if you don't like someone
instead of working through it, it's just
you you go back and you start swiping
again.
>> So there's So let me What's the problem
with women and then I'll go to the
problem with men. The problem with women
is that many of them a have unrealistic
expectations of the man that they want.
A lot of them and I deal with this all
the time. Like I want a guy that's
earning a million dollars a year and
he's 6'4 and I want him to have a you
know a perfect jaw and I'm like yeah
that's never going to happen. How about
by the way you know where on your list
is like I want someone who will be a
good father or someone with good
character. So that's like really
disgusting actually that you just want
someone that's like super rich and looks
good. Like why don't you want someone
that's going to be loyal to you, not
cheat on you? Like oh yeah, I want that
too. Oh, okay. Got it. So basically, you
want like Ken Barbie doll and then
you'll have like all the good virtues.
Notice they don't they don't lead with
the virtue and a lot of things lead to
that. But number two is women need to be
very clear that we need to tell women
more clearly that if you do not have
children before the age of 30, there's
only a 50% chance that you will have
children. The most depressed people in
America are women without children.
People that say they are very unhappy
are people, young single women in their
early 30s without children. Who are the
happiest women in America? Married women
with children. I think that we've gone
wrong here. That women should prioritize
family and children way above career.
That they should try to find their
husband before they're 25. Having
children, I believe, is a blessing of
the Lord. It's the most amazing thing.
We should try. You should try to have as
many children as you can. Much more
important than traveling to Thailand or
having a big apartment or a bunch of
cats. So young ladies, they need to be
very clear about what they're expecting
in a man and date with the intent to
marry and not just date to, you know,
have a good time. And quite honestly,
both need to do this, but young women
need to do a much better job of saving
themselves for marriage. They need to be
they they need to prioritize purity
again. Young men need to, too. But if
young women do it, then young men will.
Yes.
>> What do you think is the main thing men
need to do to make themselves worthy?
>> The most attractive quality in a young
man that young women can't ever
articulate is self-control. A woman
needs to be able to know that you can
control your impulses when things get
really crazy. So, for example, they want
to be able when you go on a date, can
you control your mouth? Can you control
your tongue? Can control your eye? Are
you going to cheat on her? Are you going
to have a wandering eye? Are you going
to get drunk every night? Women can't
always put that into words, but that
differentiates a boy from a man. A boy
is someone that has no self.
>> I would argue it's confidence and
ambition. And if you have those
qualities, I think everything else falls
into place because you have to have
self-control if you're going to be
ambitious to have a northar.
>> I totally agree. Confidence is true. So
you have to be able to control your
flesh. We have we as men have very
different problems than women, right?
Different temptations. As men, we have
problems controlling our flesh. That's
why adultery is literally in the ten
commandments. You had to command an
entire people not to cheat on their
wives. It was easy. God would not have
to command us not to do it. And so when
women are when men are dating, if you
want to make yourself more attractive to
a woman, first of all, like demonstrate
self-control. And also, women want to be
able they want to be taken care of. I
know this is like super provocative, but
like deep down, they want a man to be
able to provide for them.
>> Should a man pay on the first date?
>> 100%. Like, what kind of a whoo beta
male is splitting the check? But like,
who are you? I would go into debt and
like like scrub dishes before a woman
paid for. talking about like 24 years
old, like serious dating, right? That's
>> I did I split the check quite a lot.
>> So, I'm sorry. I I don't mean to offend
you. You guys are great. I That's
incomprehensible to me. I think that's
>> to me I thought it was a great financial
decision. I'm just saying.
>> Okay. So, from your prism, I totally get
that. And like you have really good
financial discipline. I'm sorry. Like I
I I would be so humiliated. I find that
to be like the greatest beta male like
humiliation
>> to save money
>> to No, no. to like the idea that a woman
that you're trying to court. By the way,
that money you save is not worth the
honor that you compromise.
>> In in fairness, for your point with
Macy, I paid for the whole first date.
>> Why did you do that one though?
>> I think I was at that point I was at a
level where like that felt like the
right choice to make. But throughout my
early 20s,
>> was it because you felt more serious
with her or
>> I was also in a point where I was ready
to be able to like
>> financially legit. I get that early 20s
like saving five bucks here and there. I
would do it. I would
>> you're manic with saving money.
>> Oh yeah.
>> We have Blake on my team is like you. I
Yeah. Know he he goes in he'll eat uh
like the the the snacks for lunch to
save money. Frugality is a virtue.
>> I But so we we as Christians believe
that there is an order of virtues and
above frugality is honor. And so we as
men must lead. We must provide under no
circumstance ever should a man ever let
a woman pay for a date or you should
ever no circumstance.
>> Even on the third, fourth, fifth date
and you're just not in for anything.
>> Okay. Well, let me period.
>> Well, let me Okay. So,
>> what world are we living in?
>> Well, I agree with you. If I'm dating a
girl, I would pay for everything.
>> Everything.
>> Yeah. Everything. However, I could see
for other people that might be in a
different financial position. You know,
you pay for 10 dates and then she's
like, "You know what? I want to treat
you." Well, that's that's totally
different. No, no, what we're the what
we're talking about is like, oh, we're
going to alternate. Like, well, let's
serious and she wants to take you out to
something for a nice dinner. And you
might, by the way, if you have the
intent to marry, you're already like
kind of blending finances. Like, I get
that psychologically, but like if you're
like, oh, we'll take turns like, oh, we
know, you pay this time, I pay this
time.
>> What's your advice to a girl who's who
the guy she's currently seeing, he says
that.
>> Oh, do not marry that man.
>> But here's the thing. I feel like they
should always break it offer.
>> But they should offer. They should pull
out the credit card.
>> A woman.
>> Of course not.
>> Just just to offer. No,
>> it's a it's a nice gesture.
>> No. By the way, no. No. This is this is
this is feminism. Feminism is that you
have to be this like self-independent.
This is not a nice gesture. It's you
trying to be like egalitarian. No. You
as women should want to be provided for.
In fact, you should have an expectation
that you as a woman are so important and
so critical and so necessary and
beautiful that it shouldn't even be a
question that if you're in a date now,
if it's a business lunch or like
friend-zone stuff, 50/50. We're not
talking about that, right? Like it's all
of a sudden you're like, "Hey, I want to
buy insurance or like you know, you're
going to, you know, I want to go do
business." It's totally different. I
still think the man should pay. That's
that. But see, to me, when I was dating,
it would be a huge turnoff if the check
comes and she just looks at it and then
looks at me and looks at the check.
>> I totally disagree.
>> I at least I at least want to see like
I'm reaching for something and I'm like,
>> I want I want a woman that wants to be
led by a man. I don't want a woman
that's all of a sudden going to be
competing financially in a marriage. I
don't want a woman that's going to be
like, oh, you know, questioning
financial decisions or a woman that's
going to be like all of a sudden Jeff.
No, the man is the leader of the
household. The man is the leader of all
the financial decisions. The man is the
is the primary should be the primary
provider. Again, there's exception to
this. That's, "Oh, Charlie, you're so
sexist. Sorry. It worked for 2,000 years
for 5,000 years and it should work
again." And by the way, what we're doing
right now is not working. Let me just
repeat again. This is not working. But
like this idea, if if a woman on a date
were to pull out a credit card to go pay
for something, like I would be I would
be like, "Oh, so you're like one of
those boss babes." No, that's that's not
what that's saying though. That's that
is No, that is completely missing
catastrophic turnoff. I I think No, I
think if if if I'm on a date and she
reaches for it, like I just think, "Oh,
that's really nice. You're trying to be
kind here. You're trying to alleviate
what you perceive to be a financial
burden on me. Generous interpretation
>> and so so the table
are not bringing money to the table that
they're bringing something else.
>> It's a nice gesture.
>> I I agree with Graham. I think it's a
nice gesture. However, I agree with I
think the guy should pay.
>> I think I think the woman going into
that should have an expectation that the
man takes care of.
>> But should should she be grateful if the
guy takes
>> 100%.
>> Oh, okay. Cuz it should be immense
gratitude. No, no, no. The woman should
be like, you know what she should say?
She's like, "Thank you so much for doing
that and not having to put this
unnecessary pressure on me because you
have just you've just freed me." That's
what women want, by the way.
>> Freed me. I wish I had to run for like
like what a number. Do you know how many
women are secretly miserable that they
have to be as financially successful as
men? A lot. Like a lot. It drives them
insane. Deep down. A lot of women want
to be mothers. They want to be wives. I
I tend to agree with that. Like we have
overcorrected. Okay. We have a lot of
women that deep down want to go be moms
and they would love to have their man
come in and just grab the check, be
like, "No, I got it." And by the way,
you know what they see of that as a
signal? It's going to be okay. When the
bullets start firing and there's chaos
and things start falling apart, this man
is going to protect the family.
>> Boom. Throw it on the table.
>> Wallet on the No, even better.
>> Paying 26% interest on that.
>> It's got to be even more alpha. You go
to the You go to the waiter before the
meal and you just give them the credit
card. It's not even a conversation.
>> It's paid for. It's done. Like you don't
even allow it to be a thing that is
introduced there.
>> I would agree with that.
>> I I actually I agree with that. Alpha is
like you go straight up where you are
like smooth move and the girl is so
stunned and she'll be like, "Oh, don't
we have to pay?" Like, "No, I got it.
It's done." Boom. Are you kid? From a
woman's perspective, they'll be like,
"That's the most attractive thing ever."
>> What other tips do you have like that?
Like that was a good suggestion.
>> Oh, I have a lot of tips. Um, so for
marriage or for dating, I have
>> both. Let's start with dating and then
move our way to marriage.
>> So, in dating, look, I I don't I do not
think you should have sex before
marriage. I know I know that's a
provocative take. I think sex is holy. I
don't and by the way it's not just a
religious take. I actually think that if
you introduce sex into dating then all
of a sudden there's kind of like a
dilution of what exactly will be the
ultimate physical crescendo of marriage.
So you can actually make a rational
reasonable non-religious argument for
that. Anyway, that's like a whole other
topic that we could discuss another
time. But I will defend that. I actually
think bring back purity, bring back
singular self for marriage. Okay. But
other top other things is this. You
should go on a road trip with the person
you're dating. It's very important. So,
you should find uncomfortable, high
pressure travel situations. That's not
just like flying first class to Aruba.
And you should try to be in places of
discomfort intentionally with who you
are dating. And you'll find out a lot
with that person. Number three, this is
going to sound incredibly sexist. I
don't care. If it is a woman that you
want to get married to and she says that
she wants to be a traditional wife, see
if she's actually up to it. have say,
"Okay, uh, treat me, cook, cook me a
meal."
>> I'm not kidding.
>> No, I think that's
>> No, no, no. Honestly, like she says she
wants to be a traditional wife. Like,
and by the way, be like, "Does she enjoy
it?" This is important, though. Like,
and then ask her. No, I'm not even just,
"Is she a good cook?" Be like, "Did you
enjoy doing that?" Like, "Was" and she
like, "Oh, I loved it. I loved getting
the ingredients. I love looking at the
cookbook. I love the recipe. I love
thinking about you when I was cooking
the food." You're like, "Okay, this is
going to be awesome." Right? Or
otherwise, she's like, "It was a
disaster. Was this?" They're like,
"Okay, well then we might have a little
bit, you know." And by the way, I'm not
saying that every wife has to cook every
meal for her husband, but honestly, a
lot of women out there want to do that.
A lot of women want to provide for their
man in that way. They want to run the
house. They want to shepherd the kids.
Um, going into marriage though, um, I'm
a big believer in premarital counseling.
I think that there are several questions
that are not answered when most people
go into marriage that should be
answered. And I might freak you out with
this cuz I don't know if you
>> No, we we did this. I looked at every
divorce statistic and we did everything
we could to lessen the chances of a
divorce.
>> So, yeah, money is number one, right?
Who's going to handle the finances?
Here's one that you might not have done
that you should do while you're still in
the honeymoon phase. Um, are you going
to have an open or closed house?
>> I don't even know what that means.
>> See, it's big. So, were you raised in a
house where a lot of friends came over
all the time, or were you raised in a
house where almost no friends came over?
>> A normal amount. It wasn't yet, you
know, open or closed. It was, you know,
maybe like once a week we'd have like a
or something like that.
>> Do you know what what kind of house your
wife was raised in?
>> Probably about the same.
>> Okay. It's an important question cuz I
was raised in a very closed house,
right? I know people that are raised in
open houses and it's destroyed their
marriages. You know the type where
they're always having people over. Yeah.
>> That was my family. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, you get that.
>> Yeah.
>> Imagine if you were to marry a closed
house person and all of a sudden you
were like, "Hey, we're going to
constantly have a stream of people." And
you don't talk about that before
marriage. all of a sudden you're like
it's total chaos for a closed house
person because they're raised in a place
where not evenings are very quiet. Make
sure this is another important um make
sure that you get along with each other
that you really like each other not just
love each other that you like spending
time with that person. One of my
favorite words in the English language
is like it's very unique. Only the
English language actually has that. Do
you like spending time or do you just
love that person? That's because liking
is like, hey, do you can you talk to
that person 7 hours uninterrupted on a
park bench if you needed to or is it
just kind of like an annoyance and is it
just purely physical? Um, other
questions and other pieces of advice I
think are really important. In-laws
matter. They really do. Uh, I'm not they
shouldn't always necessarily be deal
breakers, but boy, you should know the
in-laws because, you know, your wife
will take the form of the mother more
times than not. So, you should at least
get along with your in-law. Kind of know
the in-law. Children, how many children?
When are you going to have children? Is
it a priority? Will it be early? Will it
be late?
>> Religious questions. Are we going to
raise them religiously? Are we raise
them secular? Other questions that I
think are really important that actually
don't always get flushed out. How many
vacations are we going to take? What
type of vacations? Are we an RV family?
Are we a go to a private, you know,
island family? Are we a Are we going to
splurge on one vacation a year? Or are
we going to do like three or four? This
is important before you get married.
Last one which is the biggest you want
the biggest of all. What are acceptable
and unacceptable vices for our marriage?
For example, is it acceptable for you
know uh the husband to smoke a cigar?
Will marijuana be allowed in the
marriage? I would say no, of course. Is
it okay for alcohol to be around? If
yes, how often? Will you drink on week
nights? Are more than one drink
acceptable? Will we drink socially? Will
you drink once you have kids? Will you
drink around the kids? Here's another
question. Will you watch TV at night?
Will you be okay if you know there's
R-rated kind of sexual nudity that your
partner is watching? Is completely off
limits for your relationship? I think it
absolutely should be. You should talk
about that cuz some couples are like
perfectly okay with what I think is kind
of weird to be honest, right? These are
questions that honestly all the time
that people do not always flush out
before marriage. We have an amazing
marriage, my wife and I. Obviously it's
not perfect. No marriage is perfect, but
we actually like each other. We
prioritize date night. We're actually
doing it right after this tonight. Uh
which is awesome. But I find so often
that people in dating don't date with
the intent to marry. And when they end
up do wanting to marry, they don't even
ask the tough questions before they get
married.
>> Do you think you could win in a fist
fight against Gavin Newsome?
>> Probably not, if I'm being honest. It's
like I don't think so.