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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Charlie Kirk and Rob Schneider Challenge Kamala Harris Supporter on Middle Class, Border, and War Policy
Charlie Kirk and Rob Schneider engage a college student wearing a Kamala Harris hat at a campus event, pressing him on what the Biden-Harris administration has actually accomplished for the middle class. When the student admits he likes Harris's character but can't name specific policies she's enacted, Kirk breaks down the housing crisis in Phoenix, the border situation, and foreign policy record. The exchange reveals a common pattern: voters attracted to political messaging without examining the track record behind it.
At a conservative campus event, Charlie Kirk and Rob Schneider encountered Miles, a college student sporting a Kamala Harris hat who questioned whether they truly believe what they say when speaking to audiences full of Trump supporters. Kirk immediately pushed back on the premise, calling it a bad faith question that assumes insincerity on their part.
Kirk made clear that their only reason for showing up to campus events is to engage with students like Miles because they care about the country. He emphasized that what's happening now could fundamentally disrupt the greatest experiment in human history—America's tradition of free speech.
The Free Speech Problem with Harris and Walz
Kirk pointed out a serious concern about Kamala Harris and her running mate Tim Walz describing free speech as a privilege rather than a right. He argued this reflects either constitutional ignorance or deliberate deception, since the First Amendment guarantees free speech as a right to all Americans, not a privilege like a driver's license.
The protection, Kirk explained, isn't for nice speech everyone agrees with—it's for controversial speech, disagreeable speech, even offensive speech. Because if the government decides what speech is acceptable, they'll always choose what's best for the government, not the people.
Why Support Kamala Harris?
When Kirk turned the question around and asked Miles why he supports Kamala Harris, the student's answer was simple: he likes her character more than Trump's, and he appreciates that she's trying to work for the middle class. Kirk found this fascinating, given that Harris's character hadn't struck him as particularly noteworthy.
When pressed on what Harris or Joe Biden have actually done for the middle class in the last four years, Miles admitted he wasn't sure. He acknowledged he's still learning and working his way toward a decision before election day.
The Housing Crisis in Phoenix
Kirk appreciated Miles's courage to engage at a conservative event and offered to explain their perspective. He identified Kamala Harris as part of a tradition of career politicians who run persuasive advertisements completely disconnected from their actual record.
Taking housing as the first example—since Miles said owning a home is his main goal—Kirk laid out the dramatic change in Phoenix's housing market. When Trump was president, the average mortgage payment in Phoenix was seven hundred dollars a month. Now it's two thousand dollars a month.
The income required to buy a home in Phoenix was seventy-five thousand dollars a year under Trump. Now it's one hundred thirty-five thousand dollars a year. Kirk attributed this directly to Biden and Harris's decision to spend six to seven trillion dollars in unnecessary government spending right out of the gate, which increased asset prices. Additionally, allowing ten million people into the country who weren't accounted for increased demand for housing, especially in Arizona.
The War Question
Kirk's second issue was ending wars, which Miles confirmed he cares about. Kirk pointed out that Kamala Harris has surrounded herself with people aggressively in favor of the Russian-Ukrainian war—the same people who designed the failed wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya. He named Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Leon Panetta, and John Bolton.
In contrast, Donald Trump is the only president in an unbroken chain of thirty-two years to start no new wars. He actually brought peace to the Middle East. The United States had no new wars under Donald Trump.
The Border Crisis
Kirk's third issue was the border. He argued that everyone in the audience should be given preference above somebody who illegally enters the country uninvited. When Trump was president, the country had the most secure border in history. Under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, ten million people have crossed the border and received taxpayer-funded benefits, luxury hotel rooms, and flights into the interior of the country.
Kirk challenged Miles: on those three issues—home ownership, the border, and war—can you show me anything Kamala has done that proves she's better than what Trump did? Miles admitted he could not.
Rob Schneider on the Selective Service and Democracy
Rob Schneider added his concern about the Biden-Harris administration quietly reinstating the Selective Service. He made clear he doesn't want any young people fighting on foreign soil or in any wars.
Schneider then addressed the democracy argument, pointing out the Democratic Party's repeated undermining of their own primary process. In 2016, Bernie Sanders technically won the Democratic nomination, but super delegates were used to install their preferred candidate. In 2020, Biden lost the first two primaries, but everyone else was made to drop out, leaving Democratic voters no choice. In 2024, fourteen million people voted for Biden in the Democratic primary, but those votes were discarded when party leaders decided to anoint Kamala Harris with zero votes.
Schneider called this tyranny, not democracy, and warned it gives a preview of what they intend to do if they remain in power.
Propaganda Versus Reality
Kirk encouraged Miles to do his research, acknowledging how tempting it is to fall for propaganda on TV. He argued that Kamala Harris doesn't care about Miles—she cares about her own political career. Trump is different.
Kirk's closing argument centered on Trump's persistence despite enormous personal cost: he's been shot multiple times, faces seven hundred years in prison, had all his money taken, and lost his business empire—yet he keeps fighting. There's something about him, Kirk said, that shows he cares deeply about the well-being of American lives and putting the country first.
The Awkward Ending
Kirk thanked Miles for the conversation and let him go graciously. But as Miles walked away, he told the crowd to turn Arizona blue. Kirk called him back to the microphone, visibly frustrated. He pointed out that Miles couldn't answer basic questions, couldn't string three words together about policy, yet was telling people to vote blue.
Kirk called it ridiculous and labeled Miles a bad faith actor, saying he tried his best to find common ground but the final comment revealed the problem. The exchange ended there, with Kirk moving on to the next question.