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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.

Charlie Kirk and Tulsi Gabbard Rally Tucson Crowd on Election Integrity, Foreign Policy, and America First

Charlie Kirk and Tulsi Gabbard hosted an open mic event at the University of Arizona in Tucson, fielding questions from students and community members about the upcoming election. The former Democratic presidential candidate and current Trump transition team member joined Kirk to discuss topics ranging from election integrity and 2020 controversies to military engagement abroad, corporate influence in politics, and the ongoing crisis in Western North Carolina following Hurricane Helene. The event showcased diverse perspectives as attendees challenged both speakers on foreign policy, Israel-Palestine, healthcare reform, and Trump's positions, while Kirk and Gabbard emphasized their support for an America First agenda that prioritizes peace through strength and ending government corruption.

October 21, 2024

Open Mic Format Brings Diverse Questions

Charlie Kirk and Tulsi Gabbard appeared together at the University of Arizona in Tucson for an open mic event focused on election-related questions. The format allowed students and community members to approach the microphone and engage directly with both speakers on a wide range of political topics. Kirk opened by acknowledging the surprising turnout of supporters in what he described as a liberal college campus environment, noting the sea of red hats in the audience.

Gabbard, a former Democratic presidential candidate and co-chair of the DNC who now serves on Trump's transition team, joined Kirk in fielding questions that ranged from serious policy inquiries to lighthearted moments. Kirk emphasized that the event represented a moment "bigger than politics" and "bigger than whether Charlie's a conservative or Tulsi was co-chair of the DNC," framing it instead as being about America and defeating forces threatening the country.

Faith and Optimism Amid Political Division

An early question from a young man named Jew, who identified as suffering from anxiety and OCD, asked how both speakers maintain optimism in a country filled with hatred and political division. Gabbard responded by explaining that she finds her hope in God and God's unconditional love. She stated that even in the darkest times, God's love is eternal and provides her with clarity and strength to do the right thing for the right reasons.

Kirk echoed this sentiment, directing the questioner to look around at the crowd as a source of hope. He emphasized the importance of understanding that "there is a God and we are not him" and that God has a plan. As a Christian, Kirk said this manifested in Jesus Christ, and those who give their lives to Christ should not grow tired of doing good and noble things. He corrected one point from the question, noting that the moment transcends conservative or liberal labels—it's about America.

Immigration and Border Security Concerns

A particularly emotional moment came when a U.S. citizen named Aiden, who was raised in Mexico, shared his story of having to drop out of college despite working over a year to secure scholarship funding. His parents want to return to the United States legally, and he came to study as a pathway for that goal. However, he expressed frustration that the school appears to offer more opportunities to those who come illegally than to him as a citizen who has been seeking employment for months.

Kirk called this situation "reprehensible and wrong," stating that people who come to America the right way are punished while those who break the law are rewarded. He explained that illegal immigrants get benefits including taxpayer-funded subsidies, flights to cities of their choosing, and luxury hotels, while Aiden followed the rules and is being punished. Kirk characterized this as a breakdown of justice and fairness, promising that Donald Trump will reward those who follow the rules and punish those who break them.

Gabbard encouraged Aiden to stay strong and keep fighting, assuring him he's doing the right thing in the right way and that he's not alone. Aiden concluded his time at the microphone by declaring his faith in Jesus Christ and predicting His return, having revealed that his entire family is Democrat but that he has "opened his eyes."

Heated Debate on 2020 Election Integrity

One of the most contentious exchanges occurred when a questioner challenged Gabbard on how she could endorse someone who "lost the last election fair and square." The questioner referenced Republican secretaries of state claiming the election was fair, Trump's phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and the events of January 6th when the Capitol was stormed for the first time since 1812.

Kirk responded by first establishing common ground, asking if the CIA should involve itself in American elections. When the questioner agreed it shouldn't, Kirk pointed to what he described as exactly that happening in 2020. He cited 50 current and former intelligence officials who signed a letter, led by Tony Blinken according to declassified emails, calling the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinformation. Kirk argued this letter was used to censor discussion of the laptop on social media.

Kirk explained that he had his Twitter account restricted for 30 days and people were not allowed to mention the Hunter Biden laptop. He referenced the Twitter Files released by Elon Musk, which allegedly showed the FBI told Twitter the laptop could not be discussed on their platform. According to Kirk, the Media Research Center found that one out of four voters in swing states would have changed their vote if they had known about the laptop.

When the questioner insisted Trump lost by 7 million votes, Kirk corrected him, stating Trump lost by 42,000 votes across three states in the Electoral College system—approximately 10,000 in Arizona, 11,700 in Georgia, and 21,000 in Wisconsin. Kirk argued that when discussing a CIA and Department of Justice action that impacted information available to voters, this constituted election interference that affected the outcome.

Foreign Policy and Military Engagement

Multiple questions addressed U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding military involvement abroad and the balance between supporting allies and prioritizing domestic needs. A questioner of Japanese descent expressed concern that Trump might abandon Japan if China becomes aggressive, noting reluctance among Japanese people to fully support Trump for this reason.

Gabbard responded by emphasizing the need for a president who will prevent war through direct diplomacy with both adversaries and allies. She contrasted Trump's approach with Kamala Harris, who Gabbard said has criticized Trump for engaging in direct diplomacy with dictators and adversaries. Gabbard argued this type of engagement is exactly how you prevent war, citing Presidents John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan as examples of leaders who successfully used such diplomacy.

Kirk added his position simply: "We should not send another dollar to Ukraine while our border is wide open. Period." This statement received applause from the audience and encapsulated what both speakers framed as the Trump campaign's America First foreign policy approach.

Regarding military service members in combat zones, Gabbard expressed personal frustration that Kamala Harris claimed during a debate that there are no active duty troops in any combat zone anywhere in the world for the first time in a century. As someone who still serves in the Army Reserve as a lieutenant colonel and battalion commander, and who has deployed to three different war zones over the last 20 years, Gabbard called this statement disqualifying for someone seeking to be commander-in-chief.

Corporate Money and Political Corruption

An undecided voter named Angelica raised concerns about corruption and corporate money in government, stating this was her primary issue. She noted that her research consistently shows money being sent to both political parties, and she wanted to hear the argument for Trump from a Republican perspective on this issue.

Gabbard responded by pointing to big pharma as an example, noting that pharmaceutical companies have captured the FDA and other agencies supposed to protect citizens. She stated that the amount of money given to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris from these industries far outweighs by multiples of ten what has been given to the Republican Party. Gabbard emphasized that Trump has spoken directly about this issue in his podcast with Theo Von, specifically regarding big pharma and his willingness to take them on.

Gabbard also pointed to Trump bringing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. into his campaign, noting Kennedy has dedicated his entire life to taking on big industries. She argued this demonstrates Trump is serious about taking government back and putting it into the hands of the people.

When Angelica pressed on the issue, noting that while big pharma gives more to Democrats, oil companies give significantly more to Republicans, Kirk provided additional context. He stated that Trump has said no lobbyists will be part of his transition team, which he characterized as very important. Kirk then pivoted to what he called one of the most important corporate influence issues: the war machine.

Kirk stated confidently that Kamala Harris is outraising Trump 10 to 1 from the war machine. He noted that Leon Panetta spoke at her convention, and Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney have endorsed her. Kirk characterized the "war mongers that gave us the Iraq War and the Afghanistan war" as Harris's senior advisers, arguing that on the issue of people getting rich off the suffering and death of others through wars, Harris is financing her campaign from Halliburton, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman. Angelica acknowledged these were great points and said they would lean her toward the Republican Party despite identifying as a liberal.

Hurricane Helene Response and FEMA Failures

A particularly emotional question came from Ava, who grew up in North Carolina and has a grandmother from Asheville. She described how Asheville has been totally wiped out by Hurricane Helene, with FEMA saying everyone should get $750 to help, but no one she knows has been getting approved. She contrasted this with money going to Ukraine and Israel, questioning where the money is actually going when people can't get $750 from a hurricane disaster and are now without homes.

Gabbard said she was in Western North Carolina about a week and a half after Hurricane Helene went through, expressing that her heart is with Ava's grandmother and family in the area. She described finding people homeless with no clothes, no food, no access to clean water, and dead bodies still being recovered. The previous night, they had a blizzard warning in the mountains.

Gabbard stated that when this question was posed to the White House Press Secretary, the response was to call it "disinformation." She characterized this as them prioritizing other interests ahead of American citizens while criticizing those who dare to criticize their failed response. Gabbard argued this is what happens in dictatorships—those in power identify themselves as the country, and if you criticize them, they call you traitors who are dangerous. She framed this as why free speech and the First Amendment are so important.

Kirk added a pointed comparison: Ava's grandmother could fly to Mexicali, walk across the border, declare asylum, and receive a free cell phone, free luxury hotel, and $10,000, then rebuild her house with American taxpayer dollars while waiting for her asylum date. His point was that if you break into America, you're treated better than citizens who lost their homes in North Carolina, which he called "sick" and "wrong," promising it would end in November.

Healthcare Reform and Food Policy

When asked about Trump's proposed healthcare reform, particularly in comparison to other wealthy countries, Gabbard expressed excitement about the opportunity with President Trump winning because of the people he's chosen to surround himself with. She emphasized that there are no lobbyists for big pharma and big insurance sitting on the transition team to pick cabinet members, calling this a huge difference from any previous administration from either party.

Gabbard pointed to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sitting in position and already starting to choose people who recognize how broken the "sick care system" is. She said Kennedy would bring about systemic change that puts health and well-being first, not just pushing pills to make big pharma richer, but dealing with root causes of why the country is so sick.

Kirk added that one reason Americans spend more per capita on healthcare is that "we're actively poisoning our kids" in cereal and food. He cited statistics showing that in Japan, 3% of kids at age 15 are chronically obese or overweight, compared to 50% of American kids. Kirk argued this isn't just because kids are moving less, but because of what's in food. He stated that red dye 22 and blue dye 5 should be illegal and are illegal in most other countries.

Kirk emphasized that if we're serious about healthcare, the number one focus should be food, which can be either medicine or poison and is currently poison in America. This creates type 2 diabetes, heart issues, coronary issues, and obesity. He outlined that fixing this requires addressing how studies are published, blowing up the food pyramid, and ensuring lobbies for companies like Kellogg's and Nestlé don't have backdoor access to the White House.

Israel and Middle East Policy Debates

Several questions addressed Israel and Middle East policy, with varying perspectives from audience members. One questioner asked how the speakers could support Trump's strong support for Israel when it seems opposed to American democratic values at times. Kirk clarified an important distinction, asking if the questioner believed in "America only" versus "America first." When the questioner confirmed he believes in America only, Kirk explained he disagrees with that position.

Kirk stated he doesn't believe in America only—he thinks the country should prioritize itself but there's a place for America to be involved in international relations, ending unnecessary wars, and engaging in diplomacy. He characterized Trump's position as America first, which doesn't mean not being involved in other countries, but rather that America comes first always, and then involvement in other countries and spheres of influence can follow.

Another questioner asked about the situation in Palestine, noting that what Hamas did on October 7th was an absolute tragedy that should never happen again, but questioning how anyone can support what Israel is doing in Palestine, particularly with 16,000 children reportedly dead and a whole generation being wiped out.

Kirk acknowledged they wouldn't agree on what Palestine is or where it is, and said he didn't want to spend too much time on the topic as he had debated it for hours recently. He stated that Donald Trump would never have allowed the situation to happen and has made very clear he will bring peace back to the region, pointing to the Abraham Accords between Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates during Trump's presidency.

Gabbard added that it's a very complicated topic but emphasized the need to understand the threat of Islamist terrorism, which leaders across the Arab region and in America can agree needs to be defeated. She said Trump showed how this is possible by bringing together different stakeholders, and that's what he'll do again through peace through strength.

In a related exchange, Kirk engaged in a theological and historical discussion about whether Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. When a Catholic questioner said he didn't believe it was their ancestral homeland, Kirk asked where their ancestral homeland is then. The questioner said it's not defined and that Jewish history has been that of a wandering people. Kirk responded by referencing biblical history, asking about Joshua, Caleb, King David, King Solomon, Hezekiah, Zechariah, and Nehemiah, arguing that if the questioner was right, then the Bible would be wrong.

Women's Sports and Biological Males

Gabbard took the opportunity during one answer to give a shout out to women's volleyball players at the University of Nevada Reno. She described how these women are taking a stand against biological males in their sport by forfeiting a game. As a Division 1 team, they refused to play against San Jose State, which has a biological male on their team.

Gabbard praised the courage these women are demonstrating as an inspiration, noting they are doing so at their own peril and even against their own university leadership. She said she looks forward to many more teams taking this stand and doing what's right. The audience responded with applause to this statement.

Tax Policy and Inflation

When questioned about supporting middle class tax cuts while Trump allegedly promised billionaires and the top 1% a tax cut at everyone else's expense, Kirk called this untrue, characterizing it as a commercial that Kamala Harris keeps running. He stated that Trump has not promised billionaires a tax cut and in fact executed the largest middle-class tax cut in American history with the Economic Recovery Act of 2017.

Kirk then pivoted to what he called the "hidden tax" that everyone is paying: inflation. He explained that inflation is a tax no one voted for but everyone is experiencing, and it was at record lows under Trump. Kirk made a class-based argument about inflation, explaining that people who have money don't feel inflation because if you own assets—apartment buildings, condominiums, private jets, yachts, stocks and bonds—inflation actually boosts the value of your assets.

In contrast, Kirk argued, those who are renting or whose parents don't own a mortgage get crushed by inflation. He characterized reducing inflation as potentially the greatest tax cut in history because it would increase purchasing power for regular Americans.

Veterans and Homeless Crisis

The final question addressed the homeless population, particularly homeless veterans, and what Trump would do about this crisis that the questioner felt the Biden administration completely ignores. Gabbard responded that the homeless crisis is facing every big city and many small towns across the country.

Regarding veterans specifically, Gabbard said the Department of Veterans Affairs needs a complete overhaul, having become a "money gobbling bureaucracy" that doesn't serve the best needs of veterans, including homeless veterans. She stated that Trump will secure the border so resources go toward getting housing for homeless veterans rather than providing housing, money, and food directly for illegal immigrants.

Gabbard mentioned that Trump has within his first 100-day agenda plans to begin building more affordable housing across the country and deploying resources more toward local communities to decide how best to use them. She added that when you bring down inflation and the cost of energy and improve the economy, the rest of these challenges will have the opportunity to be solved.

Kirk added a moral perspective, stating that while there must be compassion for every American, "the streets are not your home," and a way must be found to treat all people without the streets becoming littered, more dangerous, and areas that depress rather than lift people up.

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