Charlie Kirk Claims No Separation of Church and State Exists in the Constitution Despite First Amendment

[00:00] There is no separation of church and state.

[00:01] It's a fabrication, it's a fiction, it's not in the constitution,

[00:05] it's made up by secular humanists.

[00:07] That was Charlie Kirk showing off why that big brain of his didn't get

[00:11] accepted into West Point.

[00:13] Maybe they rejected him because he doesn't understand what the constitution says.

[00:18] Maybe didn't even take a single moment to read about it.

[00:22] But let's watch more of that video in context and

[00:24] see if there's any redeeming argument that he makes there.

[00:28] >> Well, it's so sick because South American and

[00:31] Central American countries are actually very religious and very catholic.

[00:35] So they're going into religious countries with almost missionary

[00:40] fervor to go and try to make these countries less religious.

[00:45] And again, there is no separation of church and state.

[00:48] It's a fabrication, it's a fiction, it's not in the constitution,

[00:50] it's made up by secular humanists.

[00:52] It's derived from a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury

[00:55] baptist convention.

[00:56] Of course, we should have church and state mixed together.

[00:58] Our founding fathers believed in that we can go through the details of that.

[01:01] They established, literally a church in Congress.

[01:05] Anyway, separate issue.

[01:06] The point though is that this is acting like a religion, though, isn't it?

[01:10] If there, if we live by their own false premise of separation of church and state,

[01:15] then why on Earth and how on earth would,

[01:18] why would they want to go bring this belief to other countries.

[01:21] I mean, they're almost kind of as if it was the 1400 and they're sending

[01:26] missionaries to the new world filled with despotic nihilistic Atheism and

[01:30] Humanism and what's the thought process behind this.

[01:34] >> So what is Charlie Kirk talking about there?

[01:37] Well get back to what the constitution says in just a moment.

[01:40] Just ripping a page out of Lauren Barbar book, I guess Lauren Barber getting

[01:45] dunked on relentlessly didn't discourage Charlie Kirk for making that stupid point.

[01:51] But before we get to that, what he's referring to is this insane idea that

[01:58] the Biden administration is giving government grants

[02:03] to countries that support Atheism, that push for Atheism.

[02:08] There is no evidence to that.

[02:10] Looked into the story,

[02:12] the only publication I saw covering it was of course Fox News.

[02:18] And there was nothing, not a shred of evidence indicating

[02:23] that the Biden, the biden administration,

[02:26] Biden can't get up from his nap to defend women's reproductive rights.

[02:33] You really think Biden's gonna spend his time like traveling to other countries

[02:38] like yo buddy, I'm gonna give you some funds if you push Atheism in your country.

[02:43] What!

[02:44] What!

[02:44] I will tell you though, Right Wing Evangelicals from America love

[02:50] to visit other countries and push for legislation that supports

[02:55] murdering people who don't have lifestyles, they agree with.

[03:01] Yeah.

[03:01] Happened in Uganda back in 2012 when Right Wing Evangelicals who are part of the so

[03:07] called family, the group that hosts the prayer breakfast,

[03:11] the National Prayer Breakfast every year would go to african countries and

[03:16] push for the death penalty.

[03:18] Meaning execution for gay people.

[03:22] They almost got that passed, but there was enough international backlash that they

[03:26] backed off, but there are still penalties for gay people in Uganda.

[03:30] Thanks to Evangelicals who of course Charlie Kirk likes to rub elbows with.

[03:39] So if you wanna have that conversation, we can have that conversation.

[03:42] But I'm guessing Charlie Kirk might need a minute or

[03:45] two to just read something before we engage in that.

[03:48] Get on my level, Charlie, there's a reason why West Point rejected you,

[03:53] you're lazy, you're tired.

[03:57] And you just regurgitate talking points that you've heard from literally

[04:00] the biggest lunatics in Congress.

[04:03] But look, I'm just name calling here and when your name call,

[04:06] you automatically lose right, you automatically lose the argument.

[04:09] So let me come with the receipts because this person who for

[04:13] some reason can't stop twitching his face is like a twitch fest.

[04:19] What's going on over here?

[04:20] What are you on?

[04:22] Maybe get off, maybe read something and then come back on your show and and

[04:26] then maybe you can tell us what the constitution actually says.

[04:30] But if that's too much work for you, Charlie, I can do that for you here.

[04:35] Obviously, there is a separation of church and state.

[04:38] Obviously, that is what the founders of this country wanted.

[04:43] Let me give you some more evidence,

[04:45] I can't believe I have to do this as if we're in a second grade history lesso.

[04:51] For the revolutionaries, political liberty was meaningless without

[04:55] religious liberty and disestablishment, the separation of church and state

[05:01] was necessary to guarantee freedom of the soul, the most precious of all liberties.

[05:06] Even before the Bill of Rights prohibited a state church,

[05:11] the framers of the constitution had signaled their radical break with

[05:16] the past by refusing to require officeholders to meet a religious test

[05:21] that is to subscribe to certain religious beliefs or even to believe at all.

[05:28] Seems counter to what Charlie Kirk said there, weird.

[05:33] So do I believe what our history says, what our constitution says?

[05:38] Or do I believe some weird face twitching guy on some random show who's telling

[05:43] me that there was never a separation of church and state in this country?

[05:48] I don't know, you guys get to decide who's more credible.

[05:52] The Virginia statute for religious freedom in 1786 made clear that the state would

[05:57] not support any churches or Christianity more generally, much less one faith.

[06:02] Thomas Jefferson, proud author of the law, argued that religion must be

[06:07] protected from the state and the state from religion because it was so

[06:11] essential to mankind's happiness and well being.

[06:14] True religion could spread only by reason and

[06:18] persuasion never by governmental edict.

[06:22] The First Amendment Jefferson believed, enshrined this principle by

[06:26] building a wall of separation between church and state.

[06:30] First Amendment fascinating.

[06:32] So what exactly does the First Amendment say?

[06:36] What does it say, Charlie.

[06:38] Let me give you a little reminder.

[06:39] Or maybe you'll hear this for the first time,

[06:41] because maybe you haven't read the constitution.

[06:44] Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or

[06:49] prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

[06:53] Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

[06:59] or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

[07:04] So, the government deciding that one

[07:08] religion should rule the land is not

[07:13] something that the founders believed in.

[07:18] They didn't think that that was something that you would have in

[07:23] a society that is free, a society that celebrates liberty.

[07:29] And I'm curious, so, in Charlie's mind, what would happen?

[07:33] Okay, he's evangelical.

[07:34] He identifies as evangelical.

[07:36] So is he saying that as an evangelical, the government should

[07:41] force his religion on everyone else, including Jewish people by the way.

[07:47] What does Ben Shapiro think about that?

[07:50] Hey, Ben, you live in America, no separation of church and

[07:53] state according to your buddy Charlie Kirk.

[07:56] So take the Yamaka off.

[07:57] Not allowed, not allowed,

[07:59] Charlie gets to decide which religion all of us have to follow.

[08:05] Charlie gets to use his religion to dictate our lives in a country that's

[08:09] supposed to be free.

[08:13] All of this also was confirmed by the Supreme Court in multiple cases, okay, so

[08:17] two landmark Supreme Court cases, Cantwell V Connecticut and Everson, V Board

[08:22] of Education established free exercise and separation of church and state.

[08:26] I know it's a little weird because right now we have a Supreme Court that's not

[08:31] interested in interpreting the constitution,

[08:34] they're much more interested in Right Wing activism in the nation's highest court.

[08:39] But the original idea around the Supreme Court was that they would protect

[08:44] our constitutional rights.

[08:46] And that is what they did in these two very specific Supreme Court

[08:50] rulings establishing free exercise and separation of church and state,

[08:55] respectively, as part of the liberty protected by the 14th Amendment's

[08:59] guarantee of due process of law.

[09:02] By incorporating them into the due process clause, The court allowed for

[09:06] these protections to restrain both state and federal governments.

[09:11] For the justices, these freedoms,

[09:13] like other First Amendment rights were essential to the democratic

[09:18] process without the liberty to discuss right believe and

[09:21] act Americans could not participate effectively in governing themselves.

[09:28] So, listen, you guys can decide for

[09:30] yourselves who's telling you the truth, who's right, who's wrong?

[09:36] You've got Charlie Kirk, who provides no receipts, and just spouts nonsense

[09:40] about how there was never a separation of church or state, church and state.

[09:45] Or you can believe the argument I'm making not because I'm pulling things out

[09:50] of my ass like Charlie does.

[09:52] But because I'm quoting the constitution, giving you a little bit of that history

[09:57] American history, which Right Wingers wanna prevent kids from learning in our

[10:02] schools by burning books and censoring certain curriculum they don't like.

[10:06] But if I still haven't made my case If I'm not persuasive enough,

[10:11] let us remember Charlie Kirk getting confronted by someone who was

[10:16] curious about why Charlie Kirk was really rejected from West Point.

[10:22] So let's go to that confrontation.

[10:26] >> My questions for Charlie.

[10:27] Charlie, I wanted to ask you about you trying to get into West Point.

[10:34] You said that you applied to West Point, but

[10:39] they gave your place to an applicant of a different gender and persuasion.

[10:45] I know the test scores and I knew the qualification, you was less qualified.

[10:49] So my question is, if they were a different gender,

[10:51] do you know what gender they were?

[10:53] >> I never said that, that's fake news.

[10:55] Thanks for being here tonight.

[10:59] >> It's fake news.

[11:00] I mean, it's super unfair to accuse Charlie of saying something that he didn't

[11:04] actually say.

[11:06] But did he say it?

[11:08] I don't know. Let's take a look.

[11:10] >> Unfortunately I was wait listed and

[11:13] things kind of started to get a little bit odd and I eventually lost my spot

[11:18] out to what I felt was a far less qualified applicant in my district.

[11:23] That was of a different gender and a different persuasion,

[11:26] you could take it any way you want.

[11:27] But I knew the test scores,

[11:29] I knew the qualification I was kind of got the short and of the stick.

[11:34] >> Looks like Charlie Kirk's a bit of a liar.

[11:38] Looks like Charlie Kirk can't be bothered to read the United States constitution.

[11:42] Looks like Charlie Kirk, not only a reject for West Point,

[11:45] an embarrassment for the American people, doesn't love the country,

[11:48] doesn't understand the country, doesn't know a damn thing about the country.

[11:52] Sit down and shut up Charlie.

[11:55] No one buys your BS.