Charlie Kirk Confronts UT Austin Leftists on Abortion, Lockdowns, and the Future of America

howdy Charlie thank you for coming I'm sure that all of us are so exact that you're here finally um so before I ask my question I just got to say this we need you to come to Texas A M University I know I know that we're here to you but I'm not the only person that thinks that okay so I don't remember if it was that SAS 2022 or at America Fest but I remember you saying that UT Austin is the most leftist University if you have ever visited it's been a few years since you've been here so and and I mean you can elaborate on this is that does that still prove true I know you said UC Berkeley so okay so um last time I was here that was something I got to tell you we uh we had like a cameraman get assaulted and it was all sorts of crazy stuff um that was four years ago so I don't think this campus has gotten more conservative um but I think other campuses have got more liberal so by process of elimination you're no longer the most liberal school I visited so uh I guess you'll take it right so no but I will say this though I I'll repeat it the administration coming in and allowing our dialogue to happen hosting the event campus police uh that's very good I don't get that at every school I got to tell you we gotta fight for every for every single inch and uh so that's good I appreciate it but uh I said this kind of out in the open when I was there uh there's a lot of work to do here because some of the post-modern pablum that I was hearing uh it has some very very serious implications so the the question I guess is also liberal versus leftist right liberal I'm fine with okay liberals like free speech Live and Let Live okay fine I'm not a liberal leftists really bother me leftists are the few people not a lot who came up today and they said you don't have a right to be here we want to kick you off campus okay uh leftists bother me they're totalitarians and they should bother you too instead of having debate or dialogue they resort to force or they try to intimidate you with you know threats or they try to play music while you talk so there's a difference between liberals and leftists and um I hope UT at least remains liberal and never becomes leftist in that regard thank you appreciate you Charlie um hi Charlie I just want to open up by saying I am a leftist and I understand your perspective on thanks for being here but I did want to hear you out today and well you know ask a question so you said that you believe that quarantine is the cause of Our Generations like distraught essentially and I believe that it is actually War like we were born fresh out of 9 11 some of us around the time of 9 11 and I don't know uh my father served in Afghanistan so I don't have a very keen perspective of the United States let's say but I I did want to hear you out on what you had to say and I do believe you have some common ground in the fact that capitalism has failed my generation more than any other in recent years yeah I didn't quite say that but um I would say lack of free enterprise in some ways but that's okay you got most of it so um yeah so the lockdowns not quarantine right that that was the word I used but I mean I'll just I'll prove it to you so the war thing aside I mean how many people in this room know someone that committed suicide or seriously harmed themselves in the midst of the pandemic just by a show of hands that's a lot I mean the numbers show suicide visits were 50 percent higher among 12 to 17 year olds during the same period in 2018. psychiatric medication prescription went up alcoholism went up drug use went up not to mention young people then re-entered an economy where everything was twice as expensive because we created a bunch of money because of the lack of productivity and the lockdowns and so I think it's just an arguable that the lockdowns made it played a huge role a massive role in really depriving a generation of the ability to congregate and to communicate can I say my perspective yeah sure um this is kind of personal but I was considering taking my own life before quarantine and I think discovering myself during quarantine is what saved myself I have the quite the opposite experience I know that is unique in that case but I would say that it's the opposite I would say it's the opposite case but that's just my personal perspective I think there are far more worse things that my generation has been exposed to than the lockdown and the inflation that you have cited during the lockdown that's arguably not the fault of the current standing president if you do believe that it is well right I mean first of all Biden created five trillion new dollars not created but he approved five trillion new dollars that was hyper hyper inflationary but I'll even give you that the other coveted relief funds never should have been approved but look it's not just the suicide issue but first of all thank you but we're glad you're here we're glad you didn't make that decision life is beautiful and worthy of protection I mean that and but it's from childhood speech impediment development it's from asocial cues it's from if you talk to any psychologist or child psychologist they do not have the bandwidth to be able to even facilitate the amount of kids and I know that you have an obviously exception experience but that is the exception right I mean it is self-evident that these lockdowns were unusually cruel and you know who they were most cruel to to poor families it was the most cruel to people that didn't have extra bedrooms or high-speed internet connection to be able to keep up with this the kind of zoomification of American Education was the hardest on the people that the the regime said they want to help the most and I mean so you're in economic leftist is that fair to say yeah I mean would you at least agree that for one of your passionate causes which is billionaires getting wealthier billionaires got 600 billion dollars wealth here absolutely and like your whole big big Tech sucks is that what it says I don't know what it says yeah but that's one of them absolutely on your side with that like and I don't think enough conservatives understand that the left are equally against big business as they are well some leftists right I mean it depends who you talk to I mean like the loud minority I would say are the ones that are make you get the impression that we're not against big business yeah and I just I I'm I'm I'll just close with this this is what drives me nuts about kind of the fixation on race all the time and all these other issues that I I would prefer not to talk about is that I think there's actually agreement on kind of how things went wrong last couple years you blame capitalism I'd blame more cronyism big government intervention over a lot of different things but I I'm afraid that a lot of what we spend our time talking about are some of the more superficial issues rated in rooted in race Marxism absolutely agree absolutely great so I believe eclassism is the biggest issue in America yeah so let me ask you a question as a leftist you know why is it that the American left why why is the American elect allowing the conversation to be controlled by white liberals that just want to stay Rich it's big business paying them off it's it's not that's an honest answer that's a that's not you are a true revolutionary so God bless you comrade thanks for being here tonight so thank you thank you thank you man if you disagree come to the line whatever you guys want all right so um abortion seems to be like a big topic these days and I was actually at your booth earlier I was just listening in and that was a big topic there too um and so I guess I just had a question about that because at the booth like whenever you were whenever someone was asking you like why why are we valuing the fetus it kept coming back to human life and um like I didn't really understand what you meant by that because when you say human life the like human life by definition is an organism or a being that has human DNA and so when the fetus only really has that connection with you know like fully grown adults or just like born children what entitles the fetus to violate the property rights of the mother over her own body or to have the government do so on her behalf does that baby have unique DNA yeah so by your own definition that should be worthy of protection right no I don't believe that DNA has moral value just oh okay got it so so what when does human life begin well human life I guess if you say like an organism that is human species by definition begins at conception right so then my position is that being that begins at conception is worthy of constitutional rights and protection why what does what moral value does Simply Having being an organism even if it's just a single-celled organism yeah that has human DNA what moral value right because human beings are different human beings have the ability to have rational speech to Reason Not Just Consciousness not just ability to feel human beings are the only species that cannot just feel pain and pleasure but can tell the just from the unjust human beings are something that is so beautiful and so special and of course I have many different reasons to believe this but I'll make a natural law argument that that DNA will never exist again it's distinct and it is living and if allowed uninterrupted growth that human being will hopefully mature into something just like you have and we're all abortion survivors aren't we I [Applause] okay so you mentioned the I guess the rationality that makes human beings special but that single-celled organism doesn't have that rationality yet and so what qualifies the entirety of the human species to got it so my seven week old doesn't have a lot of rationality yet it I mean my my baby girl eats and does other things and sleeps does I mean obviously you would agree it's that seven week old has value well yeah but I'm not coming from an argument of rationality I'd come for more of like a self-ownership type perspective and I simply don't believe that an organism that is inherently dependent like on the on like violating another person's property rights in order to survive right so but I mean my seven week old is very dependent on my wife and me that doesn't mean I can just eliminate my seven week old like I'm sorry obviously like the seven week old depends on like for practicality and living but if we're talking about a moral perspective right just the capacity to have rationality why does that give it more about okay but we're talking about two different things I guess the question is do you believe just because something is dependent on another is that a reason that you could be able to eliminate that being if that being has to violate someone else's moral rights in order to do so yes really yeah it's what moral rights or do you mean by that the right to have like autonomy of your own body if another actor is violating those rights then yeah to remove it I don't see a problem with that got it so so bodily autonomy would be more important than another being being able to live a full life yeah I would value a being that has the right to property over one that doesn't have a right to property yet got it just because the being is older and not in the womb and bigger and also because the being as a person and not just an organism okay so but if that being's one week old it's more than a single cell or organ yeah but that person that one week old still has like autonomy over themselves at least at one week old like has an inherent like got it okay autonomy so this is where we have Clarity but not agreement here's the problem okay morality that built the west and the morality that I'm going to defend tonight is that one week old can't defend themselves so stronger bigger people not in the womb need to assert themselves to make sure that one week old is not terminated by people that are just happen to be older and bigger than them is that regardless of size as soon as that life begins which you agreed it starts at conception that being deserves constitutional rights uniquely and fearfully made and it's the question of the morality of a society of what we're willing to do when that being comes into existence because human life is special human life is different than Dolphins it's different than chimpanzees we not just have the ability to reason and I'm going to make an argument you might not agree with yes human beings have a soul and a soul is worthy of protection I would even go as far to say that human being is made in the image of the Creator I don't expect you to agree at that final point okay so I guess um I would just believe that the only types of I mean at least the only types of humans that can have moral rights are ones that act as moral agents and a single-celled organism that's living in a womb or a multicellular organism that's living in a womb can you explain what you mean by moral agents moral agency well like so if you don't have moral agency then you could be up for elimination if you don't have I mean if you don't have moral agency if you don't have like the ability to like if you don't have ownership over your own body yet yeah so that by the way that is a babies until they're about 18 months old do not have ownership of their own body no I would say that they would they do okay how would my seven week old feed herself if I just left her in the crib that's not ownership over your own body though the ability to move your body by Instinct even is ownership over your own okay so a 22 week 22 week old baby in the womb moves all the time you're contradicting yourself you have to have a line at 15 weeks six weeks there's a heartbeat I guess I would say that um okay so that was a good point thank you thank you I guess I probably just need to clarify that um what I mean by like self-ownership or moral agency because that that um that organism or that human whatever in the womb is still inherent like in order to like survive it's inherently biologically dependent even if it does nothing right it's biologically dependent on the mother and so if we talk about like late term like just I mean like I guess I don't want to go into that territory just like right now right um so if we say huh so like if we just talk about like early term like abortion I simply don't see I don't ha like and I don't think that generally people see a moral value that is similar to even that of a newborn baby in something that is just conceived we have clarity thank you for your question man appreciate it thank you [Applause] my question to you is are you a nationalist and if you are do you think nationalism is more leans more towards loving your people or loving the ideas of your country under the proper description yes I am a nationalist under the proper descriptions I think there's a lot of smearing and you should always value people more great thank you that was the quickest answer here appreciate it thank you hi good evening um I'll start by saying I'm a leftist but I found common ground with you on abortion and that I completely agree that you know whatever you want to call it a fetus at whatever stage it is it's alive um there's no there's no contention on that front my concern though and I want to hear your perspective on this is here in Texas we have the strictest abortion ban in the whole country there's no exception for rape or incest or for the life of the mother after six weeks my concern is that the government is mandating that people carry out their pregnancies even when it goes against their own life and their own well-being I can take an example of if if somebody's threatening to harm you you have a right to self-defense why not have the same give the same autonomy to people who are pregnant okay thoughtful question thank you so first thing is if you believe abortion is wrong which which you admitted it is well then you should obviously have laws that I'll clarify I didn't admit that abortion was wrong okay yeah I see it as a form of self-defense okay right so that's a new one well as the as the previous person says that that that person inside of you is completely dependent on you in a way different than a natural born so in most cases rape and incest aside how did that being get there I mean in in most cases through sex regardless of rape or incest yeah so there was a choice made I see your point even with a choice let's say you invite someone into your home and they still decide to assault you does that mean you not have a right to self-defense against them well no I think that for example if you have a bunch of teenagers over your home and they start wrecking everything you shouldn't be shocked when all of a sudden you wake up the next morning and things are a little awry but we're not just talking about wrecking at home we're talking about wrecking your own body your own personality well hold on again rape and incesticide of which I'm happy to answer and happy to talk about the moral aspect of that but 98 of all abortions are done as a form of birth control right sure it's a form of birth control how did those people get pregnant usually through consensual sex right so they may they they are pro-choice they made a choice to have consensual sex and now they want to be able to use scientific medical technology to crush a being that is not them is a different person out of convenience let's say you have a child who is who needs a kidney transplant and you are the only one who can supply it at um and you and you can essentially allow them to use that kidney what if the operation goes too long they're still kind of using your blood for months on end should the government mandate you know maybe not kidney I love these hypotheticals I I gotta I got it earlier I got the most amazing hypothetical we don't have to overthink this like why should children get the death penalty because their parents decided to have conceptual sex I don't understand even sir even if you consent to say taking care of your child through the you know transfusing blood or whatnot should the government mandate that you have to continue that consensual blood transfusion again under the unrealistic hypothetical and I reject the whole premise of this the question is unreal let me answer it more broadly do I think the government should step in to protect and preserve human right if by be it by mandating especially when the question is termination or not of course the answer is yes but it says a lot when I there's a there's a very serious concrete question and kind of we got the yield to these abstractions which is fine the philosophical sides and the kind of hypotheticals are fine are legitimate I suppose in some sense but it comes to be just more concrete right you've got a million abortions every single year okay 998 000 of them are because of a form of birth control do you find something wrong with that not necessarily okay I think there is something wrong with that I think that just looking at the last resort to be able to terminate human life as a form of girth control is not just sick it's immoral and it says a lot about who we are as a people and kind of the folding of culture the folding of a cultural life in our nation and so I'll just ask one final question when does human life begin it begins a conception but that doesn't override the right to bodily autonomy and self-detection okay so that's interesting so you it does begin at conception so does that mean someone who is larger than another being has the right to terminate them because why why is it bodily autonomy just because the being is in them the size doesn't matter it's it's the self-defense if if a if a toddler is running a knife at you you can knock it down you know it's you I'm I'm sorry I'm kind of impromptu here that's okay yeah well so I'll just close with this um don't use that analogy again yeah no that was a that was a bad one thank you for being here tonight thanks [Applause] disagreements first I guess I really appreciate it um all right I had another question coming up here but I really I the bait is there and I have to take it okay so I am also a pro-choice and I was wondering how um like you you said um to the previous dude back there that um the government in cases where human life is at risk should step in through any means necessary be it through mandates be it through bands things like that right again that was a hypothetical answer let me clarify it I think the government has a moral obligation to protect innocent life when confronted with the question of someone intervened intervening to end that life I so if a police officer standing idly by and you see someone on the side of the street and someone is going by to about to kill them the police officer being an agent of the government has a moral right to intervene I'm sorry I do have to take like a little bit of a caveat here so the behavior of the police officers in the Uvalde shooting was disgusting well I totally agree do you believe okay I agree but guess what I'm consistent the cowardice that happened at Uvalde is the cowardice we allow to happen when there's a million abortions in our country every single year all right okay okay which is standing idly by when children unspeakably get massacred uh I don't know I think there's a bit of a difference and the analogy that I usually use or the question that I usually ask pro-life people is um do you believe that the government should mandate organ donation even in cases of like things like donating your kidney or right now we have a policy where even after death if you know you have like religious things where you have where you know your whole body has to be intact in order for like burial rights and things like that to happen we say that you shouldn't have to donate your organs but the pro-life case seems to extend to the idea that even people who are living should have to give up their kidneys to people in hospitals maybe who need kidneys well I don't quite see it that way um but what makes a uterus different well first of all again in 99.67 percent of the cases The Woman made a choice that could potentially what about those point four percent what do you think should happen then oh I think the baby should be delivered of course because I'll give you an example let me just prove it to you by two ultrasounds and one of them was a baby conceived in rape and one was a baby conceived in consensual sex of course which one is it you can't tell because they're both human beings and in in Western morality of which I'm defending tonight doing something wrong after something evil is never the right thing so do you think that government should mandate organ donation no and I think it's a false equivalency for more reasons than one for a lot of different reasons by by the question of do I think the government should come in and protect innocent life from being slaughtered of course I do yes and that that's the answer so I mean when it comes to mandating organ donations I don't even see how that's applicable to the question because in 99.6 percent six percent of the cases six seven percent of the cases the mother made a choice to be able to get pregnant now in the very small Micron kind of case then the cases that the human the human life and the human being needs to exist so you need to be able to be able to exist all right I'm gonna argue that different forms of birth control have um like different forms of like Effectiveness and someone could could be like potentially on birth control using those control methods and it fails is that just a risk that like someone yeah so I'm going to say something this is this is how far our morality has gone we need to teach kids to save themselves for marriage and a lot of these problems wouldn't be having and if you do decide to engage in consensual marriage before sex before marriage and you get pregnant that's the cost of the game all right okay thank you for being here appreciate it okay he's actually my friend [Music] um um I actually first heard of you through a Christian apologist I followed call Dr Frank Turek yeah he's special he's great he's he's awesome he's a great friend um my question concerns the hope and love we can have for America I mean we we live in a country that has allowed for 63 million deaths through the abortion industry and we have multiple Industries and institutions that are built on lies and lust and it seems as if the majority of American citizens either don't care or even approve of all of this so where do you think we can go the individual people the church and the government to where can we go from having hope and love for our country at this point it's a very dark picture you painted congratulations anything else you want to add to that um well first of all you know I assume you're a Christian and so I mean it's it's up to us Christians there's two things Christians can't be apathetic or cynical I won't put up with it you're secular you could be apathetic and cynical you're a Christian I'm not going to put up with it because you know how the story ends and you have a great hope and you should always be working towards a great end you should care about your nation Jeremiah 29 7 demand and the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare Daniel fasted and prayed for his Nation Nehemiah Jeremiah Esther Mordecai all cared about something too yep exactly yeah pray for your leaders by name because they're counselors to the king and so look I think we have a lot of Hope and the hope is not in the institution it's not in the FBI it's not in the doj it's not in the CIA it's not on Facebook it's not in Google it's not Goldman Sachs my hope is in the energy and the spirit and the optimism of you I mean what I get to see in the American people traveling the country hosting a national radio show hosting a podcast I'm nothing but hopeful the the spirit in the Grassroots of the American people right now of all ages and backgrounds is so awe-inspiring and it doesn't take a majority it doesn't it takes 10 to 15 percent of a vibrant hopeful Spirit-filled group of people that can turn things around and you know we as Americans have done great things and there's something special about America I will defend it at all at all corners and the thing that one of the things that makes America different is when something bad happens we step up is that we we have it you know in our history not be apathetic we have exceptions to that rule obviously and my hope is in what I'm seeing across the current my hope is in pastors rising up my hope is in people that are starting to speak boldly my hope is in parents showing up to school board meetings and challenging what is being taught in these local public schools My Hope Is parents that are homeschooling my hope is in our Turning Point USA chapter leaders that are starting these chapters that are in the Grassroots that are on high school and college campuses leaning in that's what gives me hope the institutions here's the cool thing about institutions they come and go and they build and they crumble but the spirit and the will of the people I think is stronger than any other time I've been doing this in one decade and I think that resolve is only going to strengthen so God bless you man thank you God bless you hi Charlie I'm Jamie and I'm actually actually only conservative people in my school my school so it's really cool to see you talk here um my question is since we live in a world where big Tech and digital tracking of payments and information dominates The Avenues to being social attaining many jobs and being in Academia do you think in my lifetime we'll see a world where cash is Obsolete and how do I protect my privacy of personal personal information such as vaccine status while still being able to stay social and attain a corporate job and perhaps also enjoying other luxuries in which releasing this information is required yeah well that's a great great question so let me kind of tell you it's hard to do all those things right it's going to be hard to keep a corporate job and also keep all of your kind of medical information private because for whatever reason we decided to throw out HIPAA and ask everyone for their personal medical information about the vaccine which never should have been allowed in my personal opinion um but look as far as the currency question it's very important question what PayPal announced and then what PayPal attracted should just scare everyone regardless of political affiliation where PayPal came out and they said that if you engage in their definition definition of disinformation they're going to take twenty five hundred dollars out of your account on violation now they backed away from that but this is a company that did 25 billion dollars in Revenue how on Earth did they ever get this approved through you know how did this get on a press release how did this become policy uh you just saw today you might like them you might not like them you might think he's great you might think he went too far recently but Kanye West just got a an alert from JPMorgan Chase he's no longer allowed to bank at JPMorgan Chase and that's wrong I don't care what you think of Kanye West to be able to shut somebody's banking system off because you don't like them or because they say something that you you know you deem to not be appropriate um and so there's something very troubling about that and so how do you protect against it I don't think it's an end-all be-all I don't think it's a solution everything but I am a big fan of cryptocurrency I think that blockchain properly employed can be a great hedge against tyranny um I think that the federal government is trying to make us cashless soon and we have to resist and I'm telling you resist very loudly against the federal government trying to put forward a federal digital currency it's a very very big concern it hasn't gotten a lot of focus on it but a federal digital currency is a very big issue we've already seen the intentional debasing of our currency I don't agree with Libertarians on a lot of things but the one thing I'm 100 on is the destruction of our money I have to tell you the Federal Reserve intentionally coming into our money system and creating money out of thin air and making you poor year after year after year through quantitative easing is something that we should all be very concerned about I'm afraid they're trying to get us closer to a currency reset reset and so part of it is just owning assets that assets that can be moved quickly that are transparent that's one of the things that excites me about Bitcoin again I'm not telling you to buy Bitcoin if I did I could get in trouble like Kim Kardashian did do whatever you want to do I don't care um I think it's good technology and I think I think crypto can solve some of these problems but their agenda is trying to get us to go cashless Charlie I'm here with a group of students from the UT pro-life Club so we're really thankful for your pro-life stance my question is about like phone addiction and sort of this switch to transhumanism that's going on in our culture right now it's really worrying me with my generation that we're so addicted and we don't even realize it so I was wondering your perspective that's a really really great question thank you for your advocacy the pro-life group here deserves a lot of credit because based on what I saw today you guys are up against the law seriously yeah yeah it's great I'm not a fan of our digital pacifiers that have seemed to permeate our entire Society I really believe that we are participating in the largest and most cruel open-air drug experiment in human history which is to give these devices to 12 13 and 14 year olds there's some really great thinkers on this not political you could just read Dr Anna Lemke you can go read uh Andrew huberman who I think is really smart he spends a lot of time here in Austin and they're very fair and they're very well cited and research and they just talk about the neurological damage that's staring at a phone will do especially at a young age and I I look at it no differently than giving kids drugs and so the one thing and I wish that Mark says I don't know if the leftist was here and I wish he would have said it I would I would also say and this is if you want to talk about one of the great hockey stick correlations and not get too ahead of yourself if you look at suicide and depression or just kind of what would be a kind of like a basket of how you would Define mental health and like how you say okay good or bad it went up like a hockey stick in 2013 as the iPhone was widely distributed and again I'm not a big causation correlation guy but it's like come on what else could you possibly attribute like what has changed the most in our day-to-day interaction at a restaurant in the last 10 years let's just be honest right I see entire families out to dinner and no one's talking to each other I think it's deeply unhealthy I think it's anti-social and it's not even governmental or political in in nature so I mean just some stats I have here 26 of car accidents are caused by smartphone usage 31 of smartphone users in the US never turn off their phones 46 45 of children's aged 10 to 12 have a smartphone 45 of teens feel addicted to their smartphone devices it's bad for both boys and girls it's especially bad for girls I think Tick Tock is one of the worst things ever to come across the American um technological landscape I really do and it's okay if you're addicted I know some of you applauding are probably addicted that's fine I understand um and so just some a final piece on this I turned my phone off Friday night to Saturday night I encourage all of you guys to take a phone Sabbath once a week it's very freeing it's awesome it's a challenge too because you got to kind of figure out how to where to how to get directions and where to go it's really fun and you could do it just take one day a week and turn off your phone within three weeks all of your friends will know you're unreachable by phone from Friday night to Saturday night you'll be in a grocery store and you like won't know what to do when you're waiting in line you're like wow this is how it used to be it's very freeing and just the final thing is this I'm far from an expert but if you read Dr Anna lemke's book dopamine Nation um you will have a picture into how how horrific the damage we're doing to give these kids devices uh there's other books as well Gary Wilson wrote an unrelated book but important especially for young men your brain on pornography or your brain on porn may he rest in peace he was a great thinker but there's like this whole new genre of scientific thinking that I think is legit science by the way of people that are a little ahead of the curve diagnosing what I think is going to be 10 years from now what we're going to look back like what were we doing giving all these kids devices so you still have the power to turn off your phone I know it's hard but it's doing a huge damage to young people in particular thank you appreciate it okay so I'm uh one of the first agreeers although all the disagrees are first so um but anyway uh one thing I don't think is pushed Strong Enough by the pro-life is adoption um because uh I mean that kills it all entirely there's so many families that want to adopt kids and if you see a show like long-lost family you see these people that reunite with their biological parents 20 30 years after they're born and they live Wonderful lives and they have two sets of parents and it's a wonderful thing so if you know this whole discussion on oh the the mom is going to be you know live a terrible life she can't afford to have the child but they're I think something like 30 families for every one child that's adopted that want kids I think it needs to be pushed stronger you know I totally agree and you know I want to shout out my friend does runs a great Clinic in San Antonio who does a phenomenal job for the pro-life movement and by the way the I know we don't like the term Crisis Pregnancy Center right it's not our favorite term but um you know Dave McCaw does such a great job and I got to tell you that the people people that are on the front lines of this deserve a lot of credit Elizabeth Warren says she wants Pregnancy Crisis centers to be shut down which is unbelievable but I'll say this and I think you're right and I didn't I didn't make this point clearly enough earlier at the table if we are going to Advocate an end to abortion using the states or government then we have to be there to make sure that every single child is taken care of through charity through churches and through resources necessary it's morally imperative we do that and adoption is that first step God bless you yeah sorry well no I've got I've got more because if you if you read Peter Zion's book I mean China's population is going to collapse in the next 20 years just because of the one child policy um I mean we need to have kids your nation dies population the population collapse has come in here in big time um well we're here according to Peter Zion we're doing okay and there's we've got immigration too I agree with Elon Musk I think you think it's declining okay but we need to have kids regardless God bless you man but okay but I bet I got one we got to get to another one I'm sorry thank you thanks hi sorry we're short on time sir sorry hello I'm asking a question for friends if I sound stupid this is not on me so let's agree that like abortion should be banned and this is the government's right to protect uh you know the rights of kids and whatnot and so we see a lot of Statistics where kids going into foster care homes or things of that nature tend to be abused or sexual abuse to a certain extent so what would you say is the government's solution uh and role in this whole situation yeah I'll piggyback on the kind of question previously which is we have to change the way we do adoption in our country um I would again a lot of people find this to be you know terrible but I will lean on this I think we have to lean on the church uh who has the infrastructure and essentially these para Church Ministries and they have the willingness to be able to do this and to support uh adoption there are two million people right now that want to adopt in America two million people and I bet that would double or triple if the pastors of this nation really challenge their congregation to lean in and to adopt if you're going if to be consistent as a pro-life person you have to come up with Solutions and the solution should be we have to make it financially easier to have children we should go maybe as far as Hungary goes which is to pay people to have kids I'm not against it I'm not we should go as far to make sure that adoption is easy and seamless and then we also have to individually and charitably step up to make sure that this idea of an unwanted pregnancy is a thing of the past thank you thank you appreciate it I know you yes you do what's up man what's going on great final question yes yes quick question you said we should stop talking about racism but we have a problem in the country you're not a racist as often as I've been around you you've never said anything that has been racist but the left they constantly say that you're racist that's right and if we don't talk about the problem that they're trying to create it would never go away yeah so what I was saying I think you'd agree I'm exhausted with talking about race all the time right but and I I'm happy to also push back on like who's actually the ones that are being racist and the people that are pushing black only dormitories in America that's racist exactly right the people that are saying that we should have value on skin color and not content of character that's racist and so I'm just exhausted about talking about it all the time honestly because I feel as if when you focus on those issues like man we're just constantly talking about what divides us right and I think you understand my heart in that way exactly it's but it's only the left that's constantly pushing that they're constantly pushing and I get it all the time so thank you God bless you man thank you so much all right everybody this was a lot of fun couple things support your Turning Point USA chapter they're doing an amazing job I want to thank UT for hosting us nicely really appreciate that closing note we live in a beautiful country do something about it make sure you're registered to vote I'm not going to tell you who to vote for tonight just make sure register to vote make sure you vote a lot of people gave a 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