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How are you, Charlie?
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Well, welcome. Well, I hope you're enjoying the state that will always be blue. And the reason why I'm here today
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is because you you are part of the Christian faith. Is that correct?
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Uh Trump claims, do you believe that conservative conservative values are Christian faith based the beliefs of the
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conservative values? Some. Okay. So then for example, Trump uses Christian values for his ideology. Is that correct?
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Not always. Well, most of the time he does. Correct. Not really. No. Okay.
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Well, from what I've seen in my perspective, he Trump claims to be a man of Jesus, of Christian faith. So, well,
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my question is, do you know what? Uh, I believe that Donald Trump is not a he doesn't represent the Christian value.
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the correct way because he has sinned multiple times such as getting a divorce which is a sin which is in Matthew's
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19:16 and we need Jesus and um he also committed adultery which is one of the
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ten commandments when he was in a relationship with Ivana Trump also confirmed by Ivana Trump. So, do you
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think that Donald Trump really should be the face of the Christian religion?
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No. Jesus should be the face of the Christian religion. But but but my No,
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that's not my question. I've never said Trump should be the face of our religion. Do you think Okay, but do you think that he's just a proper person to be talking about God when himself
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is not following the rules by God? Trump doesn't talk about God that often. When he talks about God at all in the last year, it's under one context. It's when
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he says God saved his life when he got shot on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania, which is absolutely true.
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But yeah, anyone can talk about God and but the only face of our religion should be Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Right. And I and I agree with you. But what I'm trying to say is that conservatives,
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especially Donald Trump, try to use the Christian values to enact laws, such as abortion, for example. They're using the
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Christian religion to say that it's a bad thing for people to abort stuff. But if somebody is not is also sinning,
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doing other stuff, then why is that? How does that isn't that being hypocritical of what your beliefs are?
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Because if the the Bible was written by the Lord and you have also said in one of the debates you had with another student, correct?
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And if those are the rules given to us by God, then how is somebody breaking
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the rules but also wants to enforce the same laws that the Lord has given us to follow? We are all sinners and we all fall short of the glory of God, right?
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Let the first without sin cast the first stone. And yeah, I don't quite understand the question. Can you actually point to me to someone you know
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that's never sinned? I agree that everybody's a sinner, but I just What is the point of your question? Right. But my what I'm trying to say is that I
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don't I disagree with the fact that religion is being used to try to enact laws such as banning abortion.
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Okay. Well, first of all, Donald Trump has never invoked Christianity for that.
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But I guess we can also just use a biological argument to outlaw abortion.
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We don't have to use Christianity. When does life begin?
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Well, right. No, no, you tell me. When does life begin? I think I personally think that life not when you think when it is. When life is is when somebody
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when the it happens when conception occurs. I agree with you. Okay. So then then it's then then that mean every life should be protected that conception.
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That's a biological fact, not a one of a Christian faith. Right. Right. But I believe that there's exceptions to I don't I don't agree with it always being
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that way, such as in the state of rape or incest. I feel like abortion should be wrong. I I don't want to spend too much time. I appreciate your question.
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Thank you. Let's get to another question. God bless you. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Thank you.
