Charlie Kirk Faces Voter Boycott Advocate at TPUSA Chicago Event Over 2020 Election Claims

[00:00] Speaking of like the conspiracy

[00:01] theorists, the interesting thing about

[00:03] the idea of like how much does this

[00:06] conspiracy theory sort of mode and and

[00:09] like the big lie like I don't even know

[00:11] how Trump is going to deal with this so

[00:12] much

[00:14] from a

[00:16] a position of like not being in power if

[00:19] he's run you know running as president.

[00:21] If you're going to make the argument

[00:23] that the election was rigged in 2020 or

[00:26] in 20 yeah in 2020.

[00:27] Mhm.

[00:28] How do you How do you convince people to

[00:31] even bother to vote? Like what do you

[00:33] say? Like I couldn't I couldn't protect

[00:36] your vote in 2020.

[00:38] But now cuz I'm working in the private

[00:41] sector I can protect your vote. Look

[00:44] they wouldn't do it twice. They wouldn't

[00:45] do it yeah. I mean

[00:48] Why would they do it twice?

[00:50] That is the dilemma that Charlie Kirk

[00:53] faced and let's see how he handled this

[00:56] at

[00:56] I'm sure really well. TPUSA conference

[01:00] in uh Chicago, Illinois.

[01:03] Listen to your show all the time and I

[01:05] want to thank you for standing up

[01:06] against against the woke Democrat mafia

[01:09] here in Chicago. It's so important and

[01:10] for saying the truth that the 2016

[01:12] election was rigged, it was stolen and

[01:15] that is why that is why what

[01:16] 2020. You said 16.

[01:19] What's that? 2016, right?

[01:21] No 2020.

[01:21] Oh 2020. I'm sorry. No we

[01:23] I'm so nervous Charlie. I'm so excited

[01:24] to speak to you. I'm so sorry.

[01:26] Incidentally, we should say that Donald

[01:28] Trump won in 2016. That's why Charlie

[01:30] Kirk is like no it it was a new thing.

[01:34] The election was rigged when Donald

[01:36] Trump was president not when he was not

[01:39] president.

[01:41] I like 2020. Yes the 2020 election was

[01:44] rigged. It was stolen. It was yes no.

[01:47] It was stolen, right? And I want to

[01:49] thank you for standing up for that and

[01:50] that's why when when when the 2020 22

[01:52] elections came around I told all of my

[01:53] friends and family I said there's only

[01:55] one way to stop this woke Democrat mafia

[01:58] and that is to boycott these elections

[02:00] because they're never going to hear us

[02:01] if we don't really STOP FROM

[02:03] PARTICIPATING IN THEIR LIE. It's a

[02:05] farce. It's a farce and WHY SHOULD WE

[02:07] PARTICIPATE? YOU SAID IT YOURSELF. WHY

[02:09] SHOULD we participate? Okay let

[02:11] pause it FOR ONE SECOND.

[02:13] I like it.

[02:14] Deep down I think like is this guy just

[02:17] a plant

[02:17] a plant? But I don't I don't think he

[02:21] is.

[02:22] I I don't think he is. But the amazing

[02:25] thing that when I hear this is just sort

[02:26] of like

[02:27] I mean I want people to just sit with

[02:29] how insane that sounds as a as a tool

[02:33] strategy

[02:33] as as a strategy.

[02:36] I'm not going to participate and we've

[02:37] shown them

[02:40] Yeah cuz there is a

[02:42] sort of a reform

[02:43] There is a parallel

[02:45] to this

[02:46] magical thinking

[02:48] that exists on our side.

[02:51] That somehow if like enough we will

[02:54] teach them a lesson. In fact that we

[02:55] heard

[02:56] We'll shame them with

[02:57] we heard people

[02:58] earn our vote. Yeah, right?

[03:00] and and look they do need to earn the

[03:02] vote.

[03:03] I know.

[03:03] But if you're but but if you're savvy

[03:05] enough to go to a TPUSA thing and you're

[03:09] out there advocating for all your

[03:10] friends to not vote

[03:12] because that's going to show them

[03:15] show up the woke Democrats

[03:18] cuz they'll care.

[03:19] you don't understand how things work.

[03:22] Yeah. You have a fundamental

[03:24] misconception on how things work.

[03:27] How many people did we hear from in 2016

[03:31] who were like

[03:32] how do we teach the Democrats a lesson?

[03:35] There's only one way and that is if

[03:38] Clinton loses. Yeah.

[03:39] We don't come out and vote. Like if

[03:41] you're not going to come out and vote

[03:43] right? What is that supposed to do?

[03:45] That's supposed to make your the

[03:47] candidate that's being foisted on you

[03:50] lose so that you teach them a lesson.

[03:53] Right.

[03:54] Well, their plan worked.

[03:57] Now I'm not saying that they did it but

[03:59] the outcome they wanted happened.

[04:02] Of course there were no lessons learned

[04:04] other than we need to tack more towards

[04:06] like someone who is like more amenable

[04:08] to people in the center.

[04:10] Yeah.

[04:11] In this case it was Joe Biden.

[04:13] Let's go with the safest option

[04:14] possible.

[04:15] Safest option possible.

[04:16] And of course all those people who said

[04:18] this is our plan

[04:20] said well it wasn't because of what we

[04:22] did. Well to be clear Jimmy Dore said it

[04:25] would lead to us electing Elizabeth

[04:27] Warren and as the primary.

[04:29] Yes. But but but he wasn't the only one.

[04:31] There was a lot of people who said like

[04:33] this is going to bring about a

[04:34] revolution is going to move things to

[04:35] the left. It's just not the way it

[04:37] works.

[04:39] At least it's not the way it's worked

[04:41] following Reagan's era following George

[04:45] W. Bush's era That'd be and following

[04:48] Donald Trump's era. Nixon or Ford Right

[04:50] and and and and and Nixon Ford era,

[04:53] right? You got Jimmy Carter.

[04:54] Yeah.

[04:54] I mean it's just not the way that it

[04:56] works.

[04:58] I wish it was but it's not. Anyways,

[05:00] let's hear this.

[05:02] if we don't really STOP FROM

[05:04] PARTICIPATING IN THEIR LIE. It's a

[05:06] farce. It's a farce and why should we

[05:09] participate? You said it yourself. Why

[05:10] should we participate?

[05:11] Okay let let me let me tell you why. So

[05:14] I love the energy. You buttered me up

[05:16] perfectly, right? But I got to disagree.

[05:18] Um

[05:19] it is not rational to stop engaging in

[05:23] the civic process that decides who is in

[05:25] charge. Hold on. Even if it is Hold on.

[05:27] Let's let's one second. Even if it is

[05:29] rigged, okay? Even if it is rigged,

[05:32] going through a tradition of voting at

[05:36] least opens an opportunity a chance a

[05:38] micron that you actually might still be

[05:41] able to have representative government.

[05:42] What you are doing respectfully is a

[05:45] guarantee that you'll never have a

[05:46] voice.

[05:48] That's not a that's not that's true but

[05:50] that's not something that you can sell

[05:52] to a base when you've said that the

[05:53] entire electoral system is rigged

[05:55] against you. I don't I don't think his

[05:57] explanation A I don't think it's going

[05:59] to be effective you know to the extent

[06:01] he's going to change any minds. But I

[06:03] also think that it's like it's just it

[06:05] doesn't work that way.

[06:06] That's not what like they don't care

[06:10] Right. if voter participation is 5%.

[06:13] love it.

[06:14] Then all they need to do is go out and

[06:16] convince you know 2.6%

[06:18] of the people.

[06:19] Both corporate

[06:21] cores of each party would love it if

[06:23] less people were engaged in politics.

[06:25] But for them it's even more dire because

[06:28] less people are engaged with the

[06:29] Republican party. By numbers alone they

[06:32] are a minoritarian party. On the

[06:34] national level there are more people

[06:35] that vote Democratic, more trend more

[06:37] Democratic. So this kind of along

[06:40] the margins actually really does affect

[06:42] them and how this is

[06:44] I'm I'm I really don't know the answer

[06:46] but I'm wondering how this affects the

[06:49] general election if Trump's the nominee

[06:51] or if he's not the nominee. Like are

[06:53] these election deniers way more likely

[06:56] to sit If it's ugly they're way

[06:58] it's a problem for the Republican Like I

[07:01] mean honestly right now I'm

[07:04] I don't know what Biden's going to do

[07:05] but the Democrats on a demo on a

[07:07] presidential race level are

[07:10] fairly well positioned because if Trump

[07:11] is the nominee he's going to bring out a

[07:13] lot of people to vote against him. If

[07:15] he's not the nominee where do these

[07:17] election rigging claims fall in terms of

[07:21] voter turnout for a general election for

[07:23] a non-Trump nominee? I would say that

[07:27] there is a 100% chance that if Trump is

[07:30] not the nominee that

[07:32] uh

[07:33] he's going to keep people his people

[07:35] away from the polls.

[07:36] Unless he runs as

[07:37] As a third party which either way though

[07:39] Yeah. Um let's talk about this. I don't

[07:42] know if we have any

[07:43] audio associated but we we should talk

[07:45] about this Willow project.