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Charlie Kirk Launches Freedom Square Movement Across America: Fighting Critical Race Theory and Vaccine Mandates
Charlie Kirk announces the expansion of Freedom Square from Arizona to churches nationwide, including Albuquerque, North Carolina, and California. After confronting the Chandler Unified School District on critical race theory and successfully stopping Arizona State University's vaccine mandate within hours, Kirk reveals how grassroots activism is securing legislative victories. He shares his experience at a contentious school board meeting where 17 patriots stepped up to run for two open seats, discusses the Asch conformity experiments and Plato's allegory of the cave as frameworks for understanding modern propaganda, and calls Christians to resist conforming to worldly patterns while pursuing truth.
Freedom Square Expansion Across America
Charlie Kirk opened by celebrating the rapid growth of Freedom Square beyond Arizona. What started as a weekly gathering at Dream City Church in Phoenix is now expanding to churches nationwide. Kirk announced that Freedom Square locations will launch in Albuquerque, New Mexico at Steve Smotherman's church, at Troy Maxwell's Freedom House in North Carolina, at Jack Hibbs' Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, and at Rob McCoy's church in Thousand Oaks, California.
Kirk emphasized how the crowd attendance at these weeknight events is sending a powerful message to churches across the country. The momentum demonstrates that Americans are hungry for spaces where they can gather, organize, and take action on issues that matter to their communities and faith.
Confronting the Chandler Unified School District
Kirk shared his firsthand experience attending a Chandler Unified School District board meeting for the first time. He explained that he showed up after the district began implementing critical race theory through mandatory equity symposiums for teachers and instructors. The meeting drew unprecedented attention, with over 200 people wanting to attend but only 25 chairs available. Kirk credited Freedom Square attendees for at least half of that turnout.
Describing the physical setup of the meeting, Kirk noted how school board members sat elevated ten feet above attendees, creating an intentionally intimidating atmosphere. Despite being limited to just one minute of speaking time with strict enforcement, Kirk delivered pointed remarks calling out the district's use of equity language and accusing leadership of lying to taxpayers about critical race theory not being in schools.
The most encouraging outcome was that 17 patriots who had never run for office before stepped forward to fill two open school board seats. Kirk announced that Freedom Square would continue monitoring the Chandler Unified School District and supporting these new candidates.
Victory Against Arizona State University Vaccine Mandates
Kirk celebrated a major victory against Arizona State University's attempt to implement different rules for vaccinated versus unvaccinated students. ASU had issued guidance requiring unvaccinated students to submit to almost daily testing, wear masks indoors and outdoors at all times, and potentially be forced into online classes if enough classmates demanded it.
Freedom Square attendees joined Kirk in immediately pushing back against these policies. Kirk called on Governor Doug Ducey to take action, and within hours, the governor announced that mandatory vaccination policies would not be allowed at Arizona state universities. Kirk praised this as a direct result of the organized pressure from Freedom Square participants and emphasized the power of collective action.
Legislative Victories in Arizona
Kirk reported significant legislative progress in Arizona since the previous Freedom Square gathering. He acknowledged that while he had been disappointed with some of the governor's earlier inaction, the pressure from thousands of constituents had produced results. Several major bills were signed into law.
HB 2906, authored by Representative Jake Hoffman, became the first-in-the-nation legislation to comprehensively ban critical race theory at all levels of government within the state, including schools. HB 2898 ensures that students cannot be taught that one race, ethnic group, or sex is superior to another, with fines up to $5,000 for schools that violate the law.
Additional victories included HB 2905 for election integrity, which bans mass mailing of ballots to voters who did not request them and creates a Class 5 felony for county recorders who willfully violate the law. HB 2035 provides curriculum transparency and parental notification, giving parents the opportunity to review and provide input on sexual education curriculum before adoption. The legislation prohibits sexual education from kindergarten to fourth grade, contrasting sharply with places like Chicago where fifth graders are now given free access to condoms.
The Asch Conformity Experiment and Romans 12:2
Kirk used the famous Asch conformity experiment to illustrate the psychological pressure people face to conform even when they know something is wrong. The 1950s study showed that 75 percent of participants would give obviously incorrect answers about which line was longer when four other people (who were in on the experiment) gave the same wrong answer first. When tested individually without group pressure, less than one percent gave wrong answers.
Kirk explained that participants later admitted they went along with the group out of fear of being ridiculed, not because they actually believed the wrong answer. He connected this directly to Romans 12:2: "Do not be conformed to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind."
He emphasized that Christians are experiencing this conformity pressure constantly in contemporary America regarding vaccines, critical race theory, and numerous other issues. The pressure to give the same answer as everyone else—even when you can clearly see the truth—is immense. Kirk encouraged attendees to recognize they are the one in four who refuse to conform, and that thousands of others stand with them in pursuing truth over conformity.
Education and Plato's Allegory of the Cave
Kirk explained that the word "education" comes from a Latin word meaning "to lead forth from out of the cave," referencing Plato's famous allegory. He walked through the allegory in detail: prisoners chained in a cave since birth can only see shadows on the wall cast by a fire behind them. They believe these shadows are reality because they've never known anything else.
When one prisoner escapes and sees the real world, the sunlight initially causes pain and confusion. There's even a temptation to return to the comfortable darkness of the cave. But after adjustment, the freed prisoner sees real trees, real objects, and understands that the shadows were only partial representations of reality.
Kirk argued that modern education systems, media, and social media function like the cave—presenting shadows and simulations rather than truth. He referenced platforms like TikTok as literal examples of the allegory, where nothing is real but people consume it constantly. He emphasized that Christians have been freed from these chains through Jesus Christ and should pursue the light of truth even when it's uncomfortable.
Connecting this to Scripture, Kirk cited Acts 28:27 about people whose hearts have grown dull and eyes closed, and Hosea 4:6: "My people are destroyed due to a lack of knowledge." He stressed that the purpose of true education is to lead people out of the cave into truth and light, not to keep them chained watching shadows.
Cameras in Classrooms Proposal
In response to a question about Proverbs 22:6 ("Train up a child in the way he should go"), Kirk proposed that all Arizona school districts should install cameras in classrooms. He acknowledged some conservative teachers have concerns but argued the logic is simple: if you can watch your dog on a webcam at doggy daycare, you should be able to watch your child in a classroom.
Kirk made a controversial but pointed comparison: "Public sector teachers are doing far more harm to our country than police officers ever have or ever will." Since police officers wear body cameras in nearly every jurisdiction, he argued teachers instructing children with taxpayer dollars should be similarly accountable.
He outlined safeguards: cameras would be password-protected, only active during class time, available to parents paying taxes, and audited by community review boards. Kirk argued this would immediately stop indoctrination, confirm or dispel rumors of teacher bullying, and empower parents. He dismissed concerns about cost and privacy, noting that streaming technology is simple and affordable, and that he himself is constantly on camera in public spaces.
The fundamental principle, Kirk emphasized, is that children are not the property of the state—they belong to parents who have the legal and moral authority to raise them. Cameras would simply enforce that reality.
The Race Question and American Unity
Kirk addressed concerns about whether left and right can coexist in America, focusing particularly on the issue of race. He shared an exchange with a reporter who suggested race is the insurmountable barrier between the political sides. The reporter claimed the left believes there is entrenched white supremacy in all institutions requiring dramatic action to remake America.
Kirk rejected this framing entirely. He argued that the American creed he grew up with in the 1990s and early 2000s didn't focus on race at all. The American trinity, as he called it (borrowing from Dennis Prager), consists of three elements: liberty, "In God We Trust," and "E Pluribus Unum" (out of many, one).
The American creed, Kirk explained, has always been about judging people on things they can change—working hard, playing by rules, honoring country and God—not immutable characteristics like skin color. Christianity itself is the greatest experiment in believing ideas can change, that broken spirits can be born new through Jesus Christ regardless of background.
He warned that if America continues down the path of organizing society by skin color rather than character and actions, the country cannot survive. This represents demonic influences seeking to tear the nation apart. Kirk called for graceful, loving, spirit-filled ambassadors who refuse to judge based on unchangeable characteristics and instead focus on what can be improved and altered.
College Education Alternatives and Activism
Kirk responded enthusiastically to a question from a young woman who had challenged her English professor's political indoctrination back in 2017. She and her husband are now choosing alternative education paths. Kirk strongly endorsed Hillsdale College's online courses, which offer extensive learning opportunities on literature, history, and classical ideas.
He emphasized that the deeper people go into genuine literature and foundational ideas, the more clearly they'll recognize what's happening in contemporary culture. This represents the allegory of the cave in real life—breaking chains and gaining understanding. Kirk praised the courage it takes to stand up in a classroom and challenge a professor, and encouraged parents to support their children in pursuing truth even when institutions push conformity.
Vaccine Mandate Fight and VAERS Data
In response to a question about Arizona State University's vaccine language, Kirk clarified that while ASU didn't technically mandate vaccines, they created a two-tiered system that functionally pressured students through required testing, masking, and potential exclusion from in-person classes.
Kirk explained his personal journey on this issue. He's not naturally focused on vaccines, but became deeply concerned when someone told him he "can't" talk about it or when people are forced to do something against their will. After he and his wife got married, he asked his audience to email personal vaccine experiences and received 7,000 responses describing serious adverse reactions.
He mentioned that after reading hundreds of accounts—including a 55-year-old marathon runner who collapsed after the second dose—he realized something significant was happening. Kirk referenced a three-hour discussion between Bret Weinstein and Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, where concerns about this particular vaccine technology were discussed.
Kirk emphasized he's not telling people whether to get vaccinated or not, but he absolutely opposes forcing young, healthy college students to take a vaccine for a virus with an almost immeasurable death rate in that age group. He noted that universities have higher vaccination rates than the CDC and NIH, and that the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) has recorded over 6,000 deaths, which he believes is likely underreported.
Looking Forward: AmericaFest and President Trump Rally
Kirk announced two major upcoming events. First, Turning Point Action will host President Trump on July 24th at a rally in Arizona. Attendees can register at tpaction.com/rally using a Freedom Square promo code. Kirk noted that Trump's team has been monitoring what's happening at Freedom Square, which played a role in the president wanting to come to Arizona.
Second, Kirk previewed AmericaFest, which will be the largest pro-American celebration ever held in Phoenix, scheduled for December. This represents Turning Point USA's answer to the declining patriotism Kirk sees among younger generations—a deliberate result of campaigns to make Americans feel ashamed of their history.
Kirk ended with optimism despite the challenges. He pointed to the victories already achieved—Arizona's anti-critical race theory legislation, the defeat of ASU's vaccine policies, the 17 new school board candidates in Chandler. Even in California, he noted, there's movement with Gavin Newsom facing a recall and Larry Elder entering the governor's race. While one out of four people in the Asch experiment stood firm against conformity, Kirk believes those truth-tellers speak for at least double that number—the silent majority—and that with continued prayer, obedience, and action, the freedom movement will prevail.
Video Transcript
[Music] we got to step up and and help our fellow neighbor after these unconstitutional and immoral lockdowns and so i want to just reiterate what what we're experiencing right here in arizona getting a lot of other churches i don't want to say jealous because that's not of the lord but it gets them a little bit into a place where they want what we got here let's just put it that way so i'm happy to announce that the vision that we have kind of put forward is now growing with momentum next friday we will be launching freedom square in albuquerque new mexico at steve smotherman's church we have also troy maxwell at freedom house in north carolina will be opening up a freedom square in the coming month or two jack hibbs at calgary chapel chino hills will be doing a freedom square rob mccoy in thousand oaks california and many more and we're just getting started you understand that your attendance here your involvement here you know churches across the country when they see crowds like this on a week night when you have another week night programming the next night that's sending a message you understand that this is gaining momentum all across the country so last month our second freedom square we talked about the need to get involved in school boards and we talked about the chandler unified school district or my chandler people out here somewhere god bless you guys so i i kind of previewed this um very carefully because i didn't want to over uh over preview my plans but i showed up at the chandler unified school district meeting last month so let me tell you about this experience i had never been at a school board meeting before and i did this in part because i wanted to show the power of freedom square and the power of regular people showing up and holding our school board leaders accountable so i didn't really know what i was doing so you have to show up rather early and you sign in your name and then a crowd kind of starts to form and what was so amazing the first thing i just want to say is how many of you came up to me and said hey we're here because of freedom square we're here because of freedom square now i don't know about you have you ever heard of a school board meeting where there are more people that want to get inside than they have chairs well this was the case right so they only had 25 chairs for us and but there was like 200 people there and i think freedom square is largely responsible for at least half of that right [Applause] and so let's just refresh our memory as to why chandler unified did we just kind of close our eyes and point somewhere on the map no because they were putting forward critical race theory mandatory equity and symposiums for all their teachers and all their instructors we went through in prior teachings of why that is so dangerous and pernicious and against who we are as americans and who we are as christians so i show up and it's kind of funny the the people that were announcing it they kind of realized that there is some things that don't belong and james t harris also showed up alongside me from kfyi who's just phenomenal and so they you know they're announcing you know joe smith james t harris and they're like barley kirk you know it's like not exactly enthused about that right so we're let in we're granted access and so the first thing that i noticed when i showed up to this school board meeting and i want you guys you all understand that you inspire me to also take action when i see these crowds it goes both ways right that i hope that we can inspire you to action but you also inspire those of us that are presenting to actually take more action so i showed up to the uh the me the first thing i realized whoever thought this is a good idea should be held accountable and fired why is it the school board members sit 10 feet above you when you enter as if they're on the united states supreme court it's intentionally physically and aesthetically intimidating right it's like i'm going to look down you should be the other way around it's like no we're going to look down on you we employ you okay and so it's intentionally that way and so you could tell that there was you know a lot of parents that had never spoke before but i have to say before i had an opportunity to speak the courage and the wisdom of parents that have never spoken publicly before about these issues was so inspiring i have not seen this kind of grassroots movement in anything except maybe 10 years ago in the tea party but this is a different type of energy and these were parents that were rising up and they were saying you know what i've never cared about this before but i'm not going to allow you to take my taxpayer dollars to destroy the neighborhood around us now and so i want to play you my my remarks there they only gave me a minute and you're going to hear halfway through the video they interrupt right 30 seconds like right on you cannot go a second over and so for those of you that are going to show up to school board meetings maybe you're inspired you have to embrace the over legalism right the signing in the credentials where you sit how long you speak they are looking for technical reasons to not allow you to speak we navigated all of that let's just watch my one-minute remarks get a lot of fun charlie kirk [Applause] good evening i'm an arizona taxpayer and employer of over 100 people in this state i am disgusted that you are lying to the citizens of this state and the people that pay your salaries you say critical race theory is not in the school district and then moments later you have someone come up and use that word equity just last week the cusd summer equity symposium was held and it was quote to create systemic change change your leadership thinking how about addressing implied implicit bias for student excellence if you know anything just a little bit about where these ideas and these phrases come from you know that this is stomping on the legacy of martin luther king jr this is a racist vile and evil ideology that has infected this once great school district i employ every single member of the school board to actually learn what you are supporting equity means redistribution if you care about skin color you are a racist that is a bigoted awful idea is against who we are as americans i am poor this school district would consider thank you that was a lot to fit into a short period of time and that was that was not the best feature of the night i could tell you now i do i do have to say that doing radio every single day and thank you for those of you that listen to us on am960 every day here kind of gets you used to having to say a lot in a short period of time so it was good training for that but here's the amazing news after these speeches and i'm going to get this exactly right after all that controversy there were two open seats on that school board and 17 patriots and conservatives that had never run for anything before had stepped up to fill those seats 17 people have stepped up to fill those seats so we're going to keep our eyes on the chandler unified school district and what's so what was so great for the whole process is that it was evident that the school board members were not used to big crowd they were not used to being held accountable and they were a little bit nervous and i don't wish that upon people right i don't want them to be discomfortable at the same time i do want them to feel as if what they're doing is being watched by the people who fund these institutions and so this is now half we're going to keep our eyes on all this the second thing that happened since the last time we spoke been a lot of announcements around this what we've been involved in i know this can be somewhat of a tricky topic and i'm going to do my best to make it not very controversial or tricky which is this idea around mandatory vaccination right and so i'm not here to tell you the vaccine's a good idea i'm not here to tell you the vaccine's a bad idea i i'm completely neutral on the topic i've personally made the decision that i'm not getting the vaccine and no one should be forced to get the vaccine against their will it's that simple and so we saw this and we're seeing this across the country this trend mandatory vaccination people say well charlie they're not really mandating the means they could always drop out of school so basically the way that okay so yeah you can only you have to get the vaccine to go live your life like okay and so what was happening almost out of nowhere is arizona state university came out with guidance saying that if you don't get the vaccine you must be subject almost daily testing you must wear a mask at all times indoors and outdoors and if enough class people in the class demand it you have to be forced to take an online class right so basically you don't get any of the same sort of experience as your fellow classmates and so we went really hard against this and so many freedom square attendees joined us in this at an almost instantaneous reaction and we said to arizona state university this is not going to happen we called on the governor to step up and do the right thing and i am pleased to say that within hours governor ducey stepped up and said this has no place in the state of arizona and we are not going to mandate vaccinations for college kids that attend our state universities [Applause] and so this is because of you i'm just i'm making this pattern here this is the largest gathering of pro-freedom people in arizona at a regular basis now it's the largest gathering on a regular basis but i'm going to take a short detour to tell you what will probably be the largest gathering of arizonans who ever who know and who knows and so through our political vehicle our 501c4 organization turning point action uh we've been given the opportunity to host president trump on july 24th do we have a graphic for that i think we might if there it is right there and so if anyone's interested in coming it's not an endorsement of trump if you're just interested to hear that you guys can go to tpaction.com rally um and you guys put in the promo code you're a freedom square attendee we're gonna do our best that we're gonna do our best let me say that again we'll do our best to try to get you in uh we have a record amount of interest unlike anything we've ever seen before um but that's gonna be a very interesting event where we talk about um by the way we're gonna be promoting freedom square and highlighting some of the mothers and people running for school board real life arizona issues and so just want us and by the way the people in and president trump's orbit have been keeping eyes on what's been happening here at freedom square and it really is it really i think played a big role in him wanting to come out on july 24th so mark that on your calendar we're really excited about that okay and that's not it so we won on the mandatory vaccination program but also the last time we talked spoke you might remember that i took a very um i was very careful but also very disappointed that the governor was not taking more decisive action on some very important pending legislative items and i told you to contact the governor and contact your legislature now it wasn't a perfect reversal but i could tell you that there are now more points on the board than i even expected for example hb 2906 authored by representative jake hoffman quote fully bans the hateful racist and divisive critical race theory at all levels of government within our state including schools and this is the first in nation legislation to compact crt in a sweeping fashion making arizona the national leader in combating the divisive curriculum signed into law hb2898 this is a law which ensures that students cannot be taught that one race ethnic group or sex is in any way superior to another or that anyone should be discriminated against the basis of these characteristics the law allows a fine up to five thousand dollars for schools that violate this law and these two work in concert again signed into law they're right there so we identified a problem here at in may and don't underestimate the combined power of thousands of people gathering and collaborating you contacted legislators if you saw fit in this session and all of a sudden you've now seen arizona take bold and dramatic action against these problems now you know what's so incredible about this what's incredible is that this embodies leadership this embodies and who's leading you that's the true form of government isn't it because the people in charge should be taking their cues from you and when big crowds congregate and messages are sent around what we demand that's how we start to get this stuff done that's how we start to implement this form of policy and i'm not done hb 2905 is a piece of legislation for an election integrity that bans the mass mailing of ballots to voters who did not request an early ballot the legislation also adds a class 5 felony for county recorders who go rogue and willfully violate this law also hb 2035 is curriculum transparency and parental notification piece of legislation that provides parents with an opportunity to participate in review and provide input on any proposed sexual education curriculum or course of study before it becomes adopted now i want to reiterate this this might seem obvious but while arizona is now taking a pro-freedom moral stance the rest of the country is going the other direction where in the legislation prohibits sexual education from occurring kindergarten to fourth grade you might say well that's obvious well in chicago where just last week they announced that fifth graders will be given free access to condoms that's happening in chicago fifth graders that's the difference between leadership and decay now some people say charlie how do we prevent californians from coming to our state and wanting to destroy it you know honestly one of the ways we prevent that from happening is when we implement policies that they hate then they might not actually live let's go move here and live here i might want to i actually if they love critical race theory i'm sorry arizona arizona's not the state for you if you want fifth graders to be taught sexual education arizona might not be the state for you and the point is that when you lead and not follow all of a sudden as it says as it says in jeremiah 29 7 we've talked this is kind of the theme verse of freedom square that can test or demand the welfare of the city or the nation at which you are in because your city's welfare is your welfare and that's exactly what we're doing here today so i just want to say that in the course of 60 to 90 days since starting this we put points on the board and if you're like me i don't want to let up i want to play offense i want to keep on making arizona a leader in these sort of pro-freedom pro-american reforms so now i want to get to two things that have really been on my heart to talk about uh biblical things and we're gonna do some questions i always feel like we're rushing with questions and i really want to get into those i know a lot of you have things you want to share things you want to get to and things you want to explore together the first thing is i want to talk about this idea of being propagandized to do something that you know is wrong now it doesn't just pertain to some of the covid issues or the vaccine i'm just talking in general what do we christians do what are we supposed to do when you see something is wrong but everyone around you is telling you something completely and totally different well there's a very interesting psychological study that focuses on called the ash conformity some of you might be aware of the ash conformity test was a lab experiment with 50 male students from swather moore college here's how it worked they were told when they were signing up that they were participating in a vision test wasn't a vision the participants were actually being misled intentionally to find out what is the power of group and mob psychology so there was one person that was actually being tested and four people that were in on it so they brought everyone into the room and the one person would always go last who was the test subject this person would be sitting over here the other four people would be lined up but the front of the room they would draw three lung and they would ask one after the other which line is longer than the other and what happened is despite the apparent and obvious difference that one line was longer than the other if the four people consecutive consensus been a long week today consecutively thank you said that one that the line that was actually shorter was longer 75 of the time the last respondent would go against what they saw instead of what they i'm going to tell you i'm going to read the study for yourself so there were 18 trials in total and seven students who were on the experiment first purposely gave the wrong answer well and the head of this study solomon elliott said quote the tendency to conform in our society is so strong that reasonably intelligent and well-meaning young people would say all people are willing to call white this is a matter of concern it raises questions about the ways our education system functions and the values that guide our i'm going to reiterate this throughout 12 trials about three-fourths participants conformed at least once and one out of four participants never conformed so you here today are the one in four of that trial that refused to conform now just to give you an idea that this is not sampling error when they did this individually without the other people around them less than one percent of respondents gave the wrong answer so one percent versus 75 percent and i feel right now and i see in america this crisis of conforming this crisis that you have to give the same answer as the four people next to you even though you see that one line is longer than the other even though you say that's not the right decision for me i know it's not the four people next to you are saying that i'm sure all of you feel this almost on a daily basis and it has a psychological almost torment where you start to question yourself am i seeing things correctly am i processing information and when participants were interviewed after the experiment most of them said that they did not believe they were they went along with the group out of fear of being predicted when you think about that they didn't say to the people afterwards why'd you give that answer they said it's because i was afraid of ridicule line a is shorter fine a is shorter fine a is shorter in a short you see obvious fine a is not but you're you're very likely to conform because you don't want the ridicule and a few of them even stated in this study that they thought the group's answer was correct they were convinced against their own lying eyes that the virus didn't come from a laboratory or whatever the experiment concluded that people conform for two main reasons they want to fit in which is called normative and because they believe the group is more informed than they are but information now so many christians are going to this right now and this psychological study confirms the truth of the bible it confirms something that paul wrote about in romans romans 12 2 do not be conformed to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you may discern what is the will of god and what is good and acceptable and perfect you see what we're living through right now is too many christians are listening to the four answers before them instead of listening to what god wants them for their life and looking at what the wisdom of the lord is and this applies to almost everything that's happening right now i have never seen in my life and i'm sure you agree such propaganda such pressure to do something that you know is wrong to do something that even you see that one line is shorter than the other but we know how that psychology works but i could tell you one of the powers of this gathering here tonight is for you to know that two thousand other people see that one line is shorter than the other that two thousand other people see the nonsense that is happening whether on television radio or podcasting or on social media but again the scriptures say do not be conformed to the power of this world but here's the test for you before the next time we meet next month we'll be on a wednesday right moving into wednesday night which is the next time you're in a group setting at work with your family with your friends on social media and those four people say something that you could see is wrong are you gonna be willing to answer it honestly and maybe face some ridicule that's the question because the bible tells us do not that's a forcible teaching isn't it do not conform instead stand firmly on truth against the pattern of this world we know who runs the world the world is enemy occupied territory you've got anything you want you can call it serpent satan devil this world jesus called satan the prince of this and so are you going to conform to that pattern are you going to stand firmly for truth the second thing i want to share with you then we'll get to some questions which i think is really important which kind of ties together with this idea of conformity but it's really what we're living through right now which is actually where we get the word education the word education comes from a latin word which means to lead for now an interesting question is what are you leading them forth from or out of actually in the original latin it means to lead forth from out of the cave now if those of you that know your plato or your socrates it's okay we're going to walk through all of it this is actually where the first idea of education was passed and i'm going to show you right now in an illustration what our public education system is doing and what we have to do about what socrates told plato 2500 years ago what does the bible tell us about that most importantly because these these metaphors and these teachings can be helpful but if these studies contradict the teachings of the bible i i guess that's why i like the ash conformity test because it literally tells you what romans 12 2 and so the allegory of the cave something a lot of people would hear if they actually were being taught in college but allegory the cage cave is something that's really important this is something that was passed down for generation after generation of how we are living and existing and this is exactly what i think is happening right now on cnn happening on social media and so many of your friends and i'm going to show you a picture of this the socrates told plato socrates taught plato plato taught aristotle i think we'll be able to get the picture up if not do my best to illustrate it the best i can we have it up okay this is called the allegory of the cave this is the basis of the word education not just some bizarre thing out there imagine people who have been imprisoned since birth so that's them on the bottom left-hand corner okay they share a cell that is completely dark except for one wall which they look at all day long which is illuminated by an unseen and unrecognized source of light so there's a light at their back illuminating the wall of the cave prison guards and other prisoners boxes and carts pass between the light and the wall casting shadows the inmates are incapable of interacting with each other except through speech and all these prisoners see are the shadows on the wall which they deem to be reality these people come to name the shadows and have conversations about them and take them to be real objects as the shadow world is the only world that they have ever known one day one of the prisoners escapes and sees that some of the prison guards have been passing shapes in front of the fire there the prison guards are standing elevated the fire is illuminating it and they're making almost puppets that are casting a shadow on the wall somewhat easy to understand it's a little bit complicated but once she comes to see the shadows for what they are which is only partial representations of real things only previously perceived in rough shapes and approximations the freed prisoner escapes the prison itself and sees for the first time the sun lit world at first the sunlit world causes our escapee to squint and her vision is blurry it's his pain rotation and even a longing for the comfort of her familiar self she's then tempted to return to her former life however after a time her eyes adjust and she comes to see things differently rather than a shadow she comes to see real trees cars and so on the difference between shadows and things that cast light on them what's happening right now in our education system and in media and in social media and from our public health officials is we are not seeing the full truth of the truth at all we are seeing a shadow being broadcast on the wall that we're told to look at all day long that we are seeing a simulation of a shadow and what happens is once people break free i mean how many people here have been what we call red pill anyone where you used to be on the left and now you're not i love people so by the way i love the matrix i think it gets in we're just having a whole conversation about this before but how the matrix is like one of the most underrated actual christian films i could get into that actually it's more than you might think right trinity morpheus neo you know reword it the one anyway that's a different conversation red pill blue pill right you take the red pill we'll see how long the rabbit hole actually goes blue pill wake up in your you know your bed by the way if you want to take the blue pill like fine just watch cnn get your stimulus checked wear two masks and you'll live a great life right like whatever um but you won't be free i could tell you that so and so the bible tells us that we should pursue truth even if it makes our eyes squint and we should always question what we are living through is actually rooted in reality in acts 28 27 it says for this people's heart has grown dull with their ears they can barely hear and their eyes they have the closest lust that they should see with their eyes and hear it their ear and understand what their hearts turn and i would heal them in hosea 4 6 it says why the question is why are people destroyed a great question isn't it the leo tostoy was one of my favorite authors wrote war wrote these afternoon read but he had a great question he said what is the power that moves nation why do some people succeed and other people do not succeed bible tells us the bible tells us in hosea 4 6 my people are destroyed because of a lack of knowledge as the bible says that my people are destroyed due to a lack of knowledge my people wither away in that cave staring at a shadow all day long little do they know it's a simulation of what's actually happening and what all of you are here tonight living through is you've decided to break those chains because you've been born new by jesus christ first and foremost who is the breaker of the ultimate chains and then you get in the world you see everything differently you see things like oh that that commercial doesn't actually say that i see what they're trying to make me do and then here's the interesting part the socrates predicted his own death you might you may not may or may not know this but socrates was accused by his peers by a 51 vote of being a heretic or being someone that was corrupting the young and he was basically assassinated to be a rough word but he was murdered similar to jesus by his peers um and he was actually forced to commit suicide by a certain drug simply for asking questions and pursuing truth now what socrates did though in this illustration he said you know what happens when most people are freed from their chains they're angry because they realize they used to be in a place of how many of you have friends and family where you've shown them the truth about something in the last year in the news cycle you're like no no actually there's a thing called theirs v-a-e-r-s i don't want to hear it i don't like it i want to just focus on the shadow you see we as christians we must pursue light not just the light of the fire but get out of the cave and the ultimate purpose and that's what we're living through right now what i want to say just to kind of close us all together is that if we're going to be destroyed it's what hosea says will be destroyed due to lack of knowledge and that's what we should be doing in our education system to lead forth remember to lead forth out of the cave that's not a good place human beings are not made in god's image to be chained to a wall and watching shadows all day long that is not why god made us he wants us to worship him to obey his commands to live obediently and yes live free thanks to jesus christ the same way that we should confess our local government i want to just encourage you right now i would encourage you to tie this all together then we'll get to the question is that we're putting points on the board we are starting to make real movement now don't be surprised though if the enemy tries to make a counter-attack at this moment and that's why we have to keep on gathering keep on praying keep on reading keep on organizing keep on doing real things but all of us right here in the business that we're in at turning point usa every single day we just by the way we just launched the largest ever anti-male let me say it again for the journalists that don't watch anything antor anti mandatory vaccine project for college and high school kids across the country because i know all of us have days sometimes where we wish we didn't know as much as we know right but we didn't see all of it because it makes you a little bit like it makes you squint because you have to be exposed to the sunlight we wish we could have a sea chain to the cave and just watch hulu and netflix all day long that feels good kind of just forms right that's kind of what hulu and netflix literally is that's what tick-tock is by the way you want to see what the allegory of the cave is it's literally tick-tock right it's nothing is real it's all made up it's to music it's other people making like all day break free of that everybody and lean on each other lean on the word of god and so to tie all that together where we are headed in the next couple months i could just see it and we have a really good ability at our program our podcast i see things you know as they're happening not before they have that they're gonna try everything they possibly can in the next 30 60 90 days to ridicule the mock who intimidate to do everything they can against you to make you conform to their demands the question is are you going to conform to the word or to the world i know tonight and here at freedom square we are here to say that we are going to obey god's commands not that of the world and i want all of you to know you're not alone and we are going to win that fight together all right let's do some questions god bless you guys and as we get lined up here i just always wanted to say if you guys want to listen to these conversations in full or if you want to hear some of our conversations that we had with all sorts of subject matter experts you could do that uh by checking out the charlie kirk show podcast on your phone um and it's easy it's free of charge i know a lot of you already subscribed so i'm telling you something you're already listening to but it really blesses us so thank you so much okay that's an old book of mine so charlie you red pilled me years ago so thank you that is the greatest compliment thank you so much i was asleep so i i was morpheus with the two absolutely absolutely so here we are fast forward you know we go about our daily lives and what we're seeing happening in the world is wrong what you're doing with the no forced vac campaign is amazing i resigned from my pharmaceutical career in vr and digital marketing to join this fight so i want a partner thank you i want to join this fight and partner and bring my insights and skills because what we're seeing in the world is wrong and if we don't stand up and make a change and choose to not be a part of it then we're part of the problem i i love it and so thank you and i want you all to understand how rare that is quitting a job and pursuing truth that should be applauded and you should be supported the only way so people say charlie how is it that we're going to stop canceling first of all i don't like the i don't know about you i don't like the term too overly broad the way we're going to stop cancel culture is when all of a sudden when they cancel somebody it's actually not a punishment of the blessing that's when we're going to stop it where when they go after you because of a certain belief that you don't fall but you rise up all of a sudden and they're going to this will be a complete and total daytime the reason they do this is because they think it's a punishment because they think they can actually hold you hold that against you what you're pledging yourself to which is to get in this fight above a career comes at a cost it comes at a very real cost but i want to commend you i want to encourage you because that cost is worth it and i said this this last weekend at pastor jurgens church at awaken in san marcos amazing journey guys uh awesome church phenomenal people which is this is a hard truth but i think you all get this and i have to say honestly if i would have said this two years ago the room would empty no one wanted to hear this two years ago especially when president trump which is that for us to be able to get back the republic that we love it's gonna cost all of you something and that's not something people like to hear i think you are actually all more prepared for that message and that might mean a job promotion that might mean a career it definitely will mean friendships that's the first thing right it'll definitely mean social status and amongst other things but the cost is not just worth it but there's a blessing waiting for you on the other side the question is would i rather be materially prosperous but spiritually shackled that's a question would i like to be materially prosperous but spiritually shackled i would much rather be materially struggling and spiritually free any single day of the week and i know so many people would other and i could tell you that when people make that decision like you to act boldly and trust the lord and obey his commands then all of a sudden incredible things happen or waste a month i've seen that book for quite a while so i just want to thank you i want to try to get as many students to ask questions if we can or young people you guys are able to jump lightly yes hello again charlie it's good to see before i ask my question earlier thank you all that you you're going to be doing these new freedom squares podcast newscast watch i don't know where you do everything thank you thank you for saying that thank you now the question that i have has to do with this bible says proverbs 22 6 train up a child where he should go if he will not depart but happening right now as you know our kids thought of the crt stuff all the ungodly stuff yes so would you please reiterate the group because i'm wonderful thank you um so i'm just gonna put a disclaimer because i got a lot of emails i think 95 nails but five percent that were negative were like really nasty negative so i just need to kind of put this out there conservative teachers are really worried about this proposal and yes there are conservative teachers out there willing to listen to those concerns but let me just kind of tell you my belief is very logical and super simple when i drop off my dog doggy daycare i can watch my dog on a webcam and whether or not that dog is being treated correctly and humanely you drop your kid off at school you should be able to watch your kid in the classroom on a webcam to see if that child is being instructed morally and correctly and being led forth in the right way it's very simple and so i'm going to say something that the world will cont consider to be controversial which i consider to be not controversial which is that i believe that public sector teachers are doing far more harm to our country than police officers ever have or ever will and police officers are forced to wear body cameras in almost every single city in every state across the country now the downside is some people say well these conservatives are work teachers they're gonna be worried that they're gonna be kind of monitored all day long again who's in charge who's paying what bill we're all paying a lot in arizona income tax and we're paying too much by the way because of a lot of different other reasons and as long as they work for us and as long as they're pushing this nonsense then we should have audits like we audit election we ought to companies we audit the finances of nonprofits turning point usa we go through an audit i know you guys do every year at dream city right and we've always gotten a clean bill of health and i know dream city has as well and it's expensive right you bring an outside firm and they go through the whole thing that we don't do that for curriculum we don't do that for teachers almost never in our public education i think it's rather logical and if the left i hate using that but if the you know if that side decides they want to all of a sudden have a surveillance state against every sort of group of people they don't like for example like border patrol agents police officers then okay if you think that that's the case then there should be no reason that we can have a stable classroom in the camera that goes on when the classroom begins goes off when the classroom ends password protected only for abused by creepy perverts local area audited by community review board to see what's being taught what has been taught you want to see all of us on this indoctrination cut off at its knees do you want us you want to see the rumors of the teacher bullying you be confronted with the truth of what actually happens and here's why i also i don't actually have that much sympathy for that is that i am not fun i'm at an airport someone always has a camera on me waiting for me to slip do something embarrassing right all the time right and so this idea like we live in kind of an era where you're kind of gonna be in under attention if you're gonna be in a certain position i'm talking about like when they come to school come on in the classroom at a specific period of time and the and if you pay those taxes by the way let's just make sure we understand the morals of it the children are not the states they're not like they're yours we just have to keep on reminding ourselves that right the children are not the states they are yours and you are tasked with the legal and moral authority to raise those children up in the ways and your beautiful proverbs passage is that so what is the application of this i think at every single arizona school district we should propose cameras in classrooms and do it do it very prudently right with wisdom we don't obviously want to try to film things that at times when like kids are fasting in hallways or whatever like just we have to just do it where we can calm down into the fear mongers but again with technology this stuff's super easy we're literally streaming them thousands of people right so i don't quite sympathize with this idea like oh we don't have the money like okay have you seen some of the schools in scottsdale recently like don't give me this thing like you don't have the money right and so i think this is an easy way to empower you to be able to stop the nonsense that's happening these classrooms i encourage all of us to bring this back to our local school districts and propose this as legitimate solutions to what we've been experiencing so thank you [Applause] i was raised in a very patriotic by the way that is the most awesome flag i've ever seen in a church my brother and i both joined the military we're happy thank you for your service thank you um something that i wanted to ask was how to instill that get less fourth of july that just so can i just ask you a question amongst your friends and your peers do you think that there's like a diminishing level of patriotism i'm hearing this a lot so we we kind of know why this happened obviously one solution how to fix it but through our public schools and through our many different ways there's been a deliberate campaign to get people to feel ashamed of their history and of their past now what you're not thankful for you're not going to preserve i'm just going to prove this in your regular life right so you're not thankful for that expired like a half used bottle of shampoo shampoo expire i guess but whatever you're just gonna throw it away right you're not gonna preserve that right but you're gonna preserve your father's dog tag and he served iwo jima like you're going to preserve that that'll be the last thing that you give up what you don't appreciate you're going to throw away and what we've done is we've told young people that america is that expired half bottle of shampoo you might as well just throw it away so terrible and that has been done intergenerationally been done by people in charge been done by corporations unfortunately and done political leaders and through government leaders and so this is part of one of the reasons why we're doing what we're doing at turning point usa and so i'm happy to say that we're gonna have a huge announcement next week in like five days where we're gonna be announcing america fest will be happening in december in phoenix i'm not even sure if i'm allowed to say this publicly but i'm it's going to be like the largest pro american celebration ever here in phoenix and we're going to be bringing in all sorts of amazing things because i share your concern and there is a deliberate campaign to try to have people have in gratitude and quite honestly indifference is a beautiful gift we've been given so some churches by the way are participating and i believe it is unbiblical to not give thanks to preserve and to protect things that were given to you that you did not make and that you did not create in fact we call those things gifts from the lord you know what all of us have in common we all were born into a world we did not we were all born into a world we didn't create every person that's that's human equality you want to talk about human equality so one thing we all have in common different ages we all enter different worlds but even the oldest person in this room entered a republic in america that is the greatest experiment in self-government ever in the history of the world and it has allowed more opportunity more prosperity and by every objective measurement possible is the greatest it is the greatest success story of government and a people ever and we're at risk of losing it but i'm optimistic you know people charlie how could you possibly be optimistic because look we started this in maine we got points on the board right i'm optimistic because it is 145 degrees outside and we're filling this place up and people are waiting in line to ask things and ask questions on how and i'm seeing this happen all across the country all of a sudden i'm seeing again i'm going to say something political so we're a 501c3 organization i'm going to say this personally but i'm seeing this happen in california where like gavin newsom is on the ropes and larry elder declared for governor and like there's all these things that are happening and larry elder is a good friend of mine he's terrific and so i'm seeing movement and momentum and people say charlie what are the numbers when here's what i think here's what i know what the numbers are i know at least we got one out of four people in the ash experiment that are going to stand up to the neck i'll take 25 i'll take it i'll take 25 i'll go in the culture battle with all of you guys because i'll tell you for every person that said no to the other people in that ash experiment at least double that and that you speak for those people and that's what we call the silent majority and i can tell you right now in every local election i can tell you right now in every cultural issue that they are on defense and we are on offense every single one now that's not going to happen automatically you have to stay in prayer you have to be obedient stay active and you cannot stay passive and just be a spectator throughout this but more fundamentally about america we have to start younger we got to start with our five six and seven year olds about why america is an awesome place why it's worthy preserving and protecting we have to be very clear about july 4th and we got to be celebrating the history of it why it came to be and then finally what i love about this flag right here it's so beautiful is that we should teach why that flag exists what is the history but what does it stand for this stands for biblical values thanks for the equality of human beings stands for being made in the image of god stands for representative government checks and balances on power it stands for the rights of the minority it stands for religious liberty that's a beautiful thing worth observing and you and i we're going to turn this generation around i'll tell you okay next step yeah i have a couple of announcements to make but uh let's do questions because i'm sure everyone's got an announcement but well i guess i'd just like to say thank you for your inspiring leadership bringing us together thank you for saying that i really but anyway um i wish there was some way i have handed out fires [Music] what's your name again if anyone is interested even thank you hey charlie next to you i remember we were all were we wearing masks or not i can't remember oh we don't wear masks good for you [Applause] thank you so much for being there and all of the stuff we're doing is being like a bunch of thought we were crazy about race theory and i was like he was there helping us two and a half years ago um that while i was very very grateful very nice theory is embedded into social emotional going to save the kids with social emotional learning that is embedded with critical race theory this is in chandler everywhere so they try to fool you with social they need it we were i also foreign thank you so much all right let's try to keep it to questions guys okay thank you sir hi charlie my name is marissa hamilton there's one update on election integrity that you didn't announce that general branovich today indicted someone from voter fraud and my question for you is that the arizona legislature they supported adding a 500 000 annual budget audit voter registry how do other states that don't have as awesome of legislators and get those things to happen i've known jake for years i'm glad to hear you say his name i said it is so let me just talk about other states really quick if that's okay are you guys interested in other state audits all are you guys interested in that okay um set your dvr for tucker carlson show tomorrow evening um you're about to see the main streaming of a lot of the questions you've had um there's a lot of things going around with georgia we've been into this actually we're going back to the office tonight to go review all of this evidence review some of the new stuff you guys know we're super careful on our live streams and our podcast because like there sometimes are people that are kind of like the ready shoot aim crowd right it's like i don't we don't do that right so we we're very methodical um we've seen some things out of georgia that go to show separate entries and again you know i wouldn't say this being live i don't want to lose our youth you know this is something we have to go through right i should all use rumble.com um which is um orwellian no it really is uh that there are duplicate ballots that look based on the videos that we and there's real evidence of that it's no longer suspicion not in a lawsuit because a judge a democrat judge has allowed this thing to proceed um pretty heroically and tucker has teased this looks like he's gonna do a whole show on this evening um where we all know kind of like when tucker covers something it kind of just goes everywhere right created cable news show ever so georgia keep an eye on that and what's so disappointing is that if that's the case then the republican running georgia wouldn't have gone to a runoff david means the senate would be in republic which would have changed the entire dynamics of all but reversing it's going to be hard i just want to make sure you're all clear there is no blueprint to reversal um i think it's impossible it's just that's brilliant um george is going to conduct an audit it looks like pennsylvania has the votes in the state senate to actually do an audit state senator remember his name doug yeah that's right magistrano is that right mastriana it's this beautiful italian name right um i just call him doug great and he's doing the audit there wisconsin and uh michigan are kind of non-starters um but we're gonna wait to see what this audit produces but before anything else i want the georgia thing to come right because i think it's gonna all of a sudden validate a lot of our questions that we've had over the last seven to nine months um and the fact that tucker teased it on a show yesterday i think i know exactly what he's going to do tomorrow because we've been we've kind of seen this you guys might have saw this morning but again we're super careful as looking like thousands of people at that evidence um so if that's the case um i don't know what that means again i say allegedly but um that could very well in my opinion open up justifying means to audit every single vote every person on the voter registration rules and go through that completely and totally um we have been told since the beginning that we are destroying our country we are afraid of democracy that we are terrible and awful people and we amongst other people have persisted truth was performed there's been some things that have not been out there that have been true i think a lot of people if you watch awkward tomorrow night breathe a sigh of relief because i think that i don't want to hype it too much but i if you've seen what i've seen you thank you so much appreciate it charlie first and foremost thank you um i'm pretty new to politics though wasn't for uh open my eyes but honestly i'm just hypocrites and they're very vocal about that quite honestly their socialist and communist policies are in direct opposition my question to you is in the left and right coexist resembles i might be moving in the right direction but others where do you see this going how do you see left and the right living together in the united states yeah i i want to live together i want to get back to the place i want the country i grew up in i grew up in 1993 and like the early 2000s we didn't talk about and was different country it just changed in 10 years and again i'm not an alarmist you guys know me i'm really fragile footing here we're close to passing lines that cannot be retr where mistakes will be made all of a sudden those are reference points for extremism you guys understand that's not good it's bad we should try to calm that down we should be blessed are the peacemakers peacemakers are foreign adversaries internationally including in my opinion the greatest instrument for evil in the world and for satanic purposes these party would love to see america broken up in the 30 right so i don't think that's a solution i don't think we should embrace it i think we should try to get back to this idea of e pluribus unum all all you know which is a latin phrase it's part of the american trinity actually i should talk about america has a trinity just like christian trinity the christian trinity can be best seen in the text in matthew 3 when jesus is baptized jesus son holy spirit came down and the father says out loud my son and i am very well pleased that is a trinity right don't ask me to explain it there have been volumes of books written about it's the way it is you don't like to go find a different fiat right that's my best example right basically it's that simple if i understood everything that god did he wouldn't be worth worship you just put it down right so let me just be very clear now there's an american trinity too which is liberty in god we trust any plural um dennis prager coined this term which is that these are the three core ideas if you do not have for example we don't have christianity if we don't believe in the christian journey the father son of the holy spirit other spoken existence in the world sent us on to save our spirit fills us that week those commands until jesus very simple the trinity connects us all throughout the bible same way as in the history of america we don't have liberty which means due to virtue we don't believe in god we trust don't believe in the in the phrase e pluribus unum which means out of many one means i don't care about your color i don't care about your background i don't care about your culture i don't care all i care about is if are you part of the american you're willing to embrace it and believe in the america the american creed is something that my grandparents generation knew by heart and no one even knows what the american creed is anymore they used to say it on radio all the time you know radio used a big video um kind of nice because they don't censor what i have to say um i'm like um which is the american creed is super simple made in god's image you have certain unalienable rights you work hard and play by the rules you honor your country and honor god you're probably going to succeed and you're you are at least deserving of that that's like the american creed right so let me tell you what the biggest barrier to all of this that's why i focused on hebrew soon to go do a couple more questions um i was talking to a reporter i'm not going to say with but yeah charlie he said seems like you're willing to agree with the other side a lot yeah good good thing that the one thing that you seem to constantly disagree with is this issue of race what do you mean she said it's the itch and she said that left and right are never going to get along because they can't be on rape well what is the less position i'm really curious like how do you even have a political position on race right like either you're a racist or not like what is the political position on race and she said well that there's entrenched white supremacy in all of our institutions and we have to make bold and dramatic action to remake america i said okay now i see the the reason that we don't have the country we grew up in that we decided to embrace quite honestly the most divisive spirit imaginable which is we're going to care about things you can't right so the american creed was always caring about things you can change working hard and playing by the rules those things you can change right you know what you can't change unless you're michael jackson and like even he didn't change it very well which is your skin color right it's immoral to be able to judge people based on your skin color christianity proves this christianity is the greatest living breathing experiment of believing in an idea of things that can change most importantly your spirit spirit is broken boring new by jesus christ you're able to live with that's pretty amazing that's by definition not caring about who you were and then so we built a whole government around that idea and a whole system around that idea and i believe the only i think this this is my personal opinion we don't figure this race thing out and what i mean by it is like do we actually care about people's skin color as like a predominant mechanism to organize people or not then this whole thing's gonna be done it's that simple it's like we're not talking about economics we're not talking about philosophy it's this simple it's are we going to embrace the american ideal that i grew up in or are we going to go in this horrible bigoted racist direction and tear each other up that's really it and if we go that other way i think that the demonic influences actually i don't use that word like i think they want us to care about those things i think it'll tear us apart so that's really what we're at the front lines of i think all of us have to be graceful and loving and spirit-filled ambassadors to say when someone gets fired up be like i refuse to say that things that cannot be changed i refuse to say that things that cannot be moved things that cannot be altered the way that we organize life we should organize life based on things that can be changed people that can be improved and so i'm actually optimistic because i think that these ideas have been brought to light remember what's done in darkness will be brought to light i think that there is a backlash against this my fear in this though is that it's so entrenched in the institution of powerful institutions that's gonna be really hard to kind of hurt um but i think we're going through tonight this is a different great awokening which is like this in a new religion that seriously like theological belief so but i'm optimistic because as long as there are truth tellers and is mightier than the sword as long as the pen is minor than the sword people like you are going to make a bigger difference thank you okay let's get to a couple more hello wearing a proclaimed shirt my wife's clothing line and been married to two months in a couple weeks highly recommend it for all the young people out there okay very comfortable and made in the united states yes it is and it's based it's based off of isaiah 61 it's a great amazing proclaim streetwear.com um so charlie first i want to say thank you so much for raising awareness for youth and pouring into i was here last month that was my there was a young lady that talked abortion compassion you mentioned that you weren't aware of any like local organizations so i wanted voices pregnancy center is local to arizona it's formerly partnered with support um but i wanted to question whether you would recommend of course years ago i went to college and was in an english class english professor was trying to indoctrinate our class and it's fine if you're going to be a communist that's great please don't spill that over into the english class um but fortunately for me i had an amazing english one professor so i was the crazy student in my hand asking you know shut down by the professor so i ended up matters sometimes i wanted her to fail me that's so good i was hoping that she would fail me and we told our kids don't do this when you go to college um mom's pain so it's fine so that was back in 2017 that was the experience day-to-day but so my husband did always equity diversity and inclusion which all those things so what we're choosing to do this is we know what to measure it up so my question to you and doing research would you remember you know search and work or so i'm a huge fan of activating all of you supporter to becoming full-time learner non-stop and we're about to announce certain college in michigan go figure out about a massive push the online they're doing i personally take charge hillsdale college um and and i i'm only hesitant to say that because i want to push you to my promo code when you guys go do that just because i want to show like how many people are interested in learning what i've got the online courses are amazing and they're like the 12th piece they're 30 minutes each one you gotta go about 300 minutes of course i could tell you the deeper you go into literature and these ideas more clearly you're going to see what's happening that's that's the allegory of the cave in real life right the breaking of the chains out of the chain out of the cave understanding and i'll just kind of close with this because we're both close on time and try to get more which is that what you what first of all you deserve huge credit and courage for going and taking a course and writing that and so you just deserve to be applied for that it's just so awesome and so and i just want to compliment you because so few people are willing to actually go into academia understand where this is you saw this in 2017 even worse so really what you you've embodied is active involvement thank you all right this will we'll try to get to one more after this yes charlie thank you for being here yeah i'm happy to be involved in turning point there and i'm happy to and i want everyone to know that asu didn't take vaccinations but the language was on it and i received that full email things they were going to impose on itself one of the lines from it states as we continue preparations fall 2021 we are writing to remind you of the university's expectation that all students enrolled in on campus program 2021-22 will be vaccinated um there are several loaded words in that statement including mind and so even though vaccines weren't how can i help my fellows you know guys that still have it's a wonderful question and so um first of all thank you for standing up against all this stuff that's happening um and you're right and i did say this at the beginning they all but mandated mandated it based on the masks the testing and creating this almost like two-tiered environmental environment um this issue gotta tell you i've just i'm not like a vaccine person right like i'm not some people make a whole career out of this issue i don't i just i'm not that i've never been that interested in it maybe i'm going to get more interested in it what gets me really interested is when someone says i can't that's what gets me like a thousand times more interested right like i didn't really care that much about the vaccine but you told me i can't talk about it so maybe i want to go learn about it right that's just how i'm wired right maybe they like have robert kennedy jr on my podcast then like what else can't i do like weird tech people like what else and like they like make a list then we try to do all those things and so um and so i just got again we made our own personal medical decision i encourage everyone else to do this and so let me by the way if you're 75 or morbidities i can actually make an argument the vaccine risk might actually be worth it i could make that argument because 75 core mobilities downside could potentially be what the va and others are saying and covet might actually be death and so you say okay you know i'm willing to do that you're 19 years old it hasn't has a almost immeasurable death rate i'm going to say that again almost immeasurably according to alex berenson who's the expert on this and then we have higher vaccination rates or universities than at the cdc and the nih what does that tell you right and then at the bear system v-a-e-r-s we have over 6 000 deaths reported and i think that's probably low and then i wasn't that interested until so this is what we did right so wife and i got married on may the last podcast that i did was about that super vanilla topic but all right we're just going to leave it all out there go off the grid i just said contact me and email me with any of your experiences getting into these facts i come back to like 7 000 emails right comments messages and if you have seen what i've seen you'll care even more i'm talking about fear-filled letters an running marathon 55 years old until he got the second dernish he dropped and after the 500th email that i read i realized there's something else at like right then a guy by the name of brett weinstein who honestly is a jerk many years he's particular evolutionary biologist super snarky on twitter towards ever came out with this video and i saw it i said this this is this camping and he said how i got red killed on the go midnight no way like the lord is coming back times of noah like no way right signs of the times there's got to be a verse like in like ezekiel about brett weinstein like getting a red spread like at least like and he had a three-hour discussion with the inventor of the mrna vaccine dr where he was like look you don't understand this vaccine is not like any others protein he went through all the reasons i said okay there's this i'm not gonna sit idly by i am not while i run a college organization and we have students that we represent and protect i am not going to be silent while our students and my members are forced to do something that might be bad for them i'm not going to that's not going to that's not going to happen right and so we're we're fighting it like we have like 50 different fights that we're on and just so you know the byte administration just give an idea of like how effective what we're doing we're doing and then is the biden administration alluded with politico on this article thought they said they're going to censor text message based you know what with t